Because we are willing to trade efficiency and lower cost now for certain vulnerabilities, that's why.
I think it's a lot simpler than all of that. Simply put, they don't trust us and don't want to have to use us if they can get away with it. They don't understand our message even when we dumb it down into words they understand. They think we're still the Priests In White Coats and all we really do is feather our nests. If we're not doing something that's going to quickly bring in short term profit, then what we do is a waste of time and money in their view.
Short of re-education (and I can't realistically see that happening anytime soon), I see no solution. They've built the mess they're comfortable living in, and no amount of hand-wringing from us is going to change their minds.
So you think the 'spooks' ordered Japan to attack?
All 'm saying is, after all the things I've read recently now that some of that stuff's becoming declassified and starting to hit historians' desks, I wouldn't put it past them. Dieppe? William Stevenson (Intrepid) attempting a snatch and grab of the Nazi four rotor Enigma machine and code books. J. Edgar Hoover? Cross dresser. Hell, FDR's polio crippling was a closely guarded secret back then. Read some Vasili Mitrokhin (KGB's historian) for some really stunning stuff.
FDR, et al, maneouvering Japan into striking first isn't all that far fetched. Think Johnson & McNamara and the Gulf of Tonkin.
So what, you think Roosevelt ordered the Japanese attack?
It didn't have to be FDR. Spooks in the back rooms come up with !@#$ like this all the time. FDR was trying to drag the US out of the Depression and had been trying to figure out how to get the US into WWII for close to a year. The spooks just came up with a way for that to happen. Condolences to the navy.
lol you think the US 'lured' Japan into attacking Hawaii? Seriously?
"Let's line up all the planes on the ground close right beside each other, uh, to deter saboteurs and looters, yeah."
Meanwhile, strangle Japan's oil supply and bitch, bitch, bitch about what they're doing to the poor Chinese.
Yeah, utterly implausible. I wonder why the carriers weren't in Pearl that day. Oh, and Midway, that was just pure great work and execution on the US' part. Uh huh.
Biology question: how do I throw a zinger about "consporacy theories" at a biologist?
Ahhh, you're not trying hard enough. One word: Anthrax!
You don't even need the real thing. A bit of flour in an envelope stuffed into random screen door mail slots in residential neighbourhoods overnight, and you can shut an entire city down for days, maybe weeks. You can even bribe homeless winos with a bottle to do it early in the morning (tell them it's a promotional campaign for a contest and give 'em a cheap bottle of ripple to do it).
Perhaps it has something to do with the fact that Rand wasn't libertarian. Maybe it's just the phrase "Ayn Rand nutters" pretty much screams flamebait, not serious knowlegable discussion. If he's that far off the mark on those two simple matters, perhaps he's never even bothered to read a wikipage on any of this, and is just whinging on second hand hearsay.
I generally hate this saying but, I wish I had mod points. I really like your proposal. Too bad there's not a chance in hell we'll ever get a system like that, or at least in my lifetime anyway.
... 'only 19000 against in the entire population! Surely it must be liked by most then.'
To which I'd reply, "Yet out of the entire population - 19000, not one of them considered this important enough for them to say so. I think that speaks volumes about how important this bill is for them. Isn't there something you ought to be focusing your energy on instead of this?"
Piemasters has 1 comment, this one, which is a first post.
And, your point is...? We all start somewhere. Perhaps it's a former AC coming out of the closet.:-)
I thought the point of all of this is to weigh the pros and cons of the content, not tangentials. PieMasters actually expressed a valid opinion with no "Frist Post!!!111". What did you do other than stir the conspiracy pot with your big wooden spoon?
Sorry, that is your very own made-up-on-the-spot definition of "information". You can't just redefine words in a way that nobody else does.
From WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006) [wn]:
data
n 1: a collection of facts from which conclusions may be drawn;
"statistical data" [syn: {data}, {information}]
From The Free On-line Dictionary of Computing (26 July 2010) [foldoc]:
data
raw data/day't*/ (Or "raw data")
Numbers, {characters}, {images}, or other method of recording,
in a form which can be assessed by a human or (especially)
input into a {computer}, stored and {processed} there, or
transmitted on some {digital channel}. Computers nearly
always represent data in {binary}.
Data on its own has no meaning, only when interpreted by some
kind of {data processing system} does it take on meaning and
become {information}.
I believe Kurzweil is confused on the definitions of data vs. information. Information is data I've had time to digest and react to. If all you want to do is accumulate TBytes of raw data, yeah, the Cloud is fine for that. Whether you'll ever find the time to do anything with it all is another question.
And your nasty habit affects others in many ways: 1. Second hand smoke causes lung problems and cancer.
BS.
2. My health insurance costs go up when you get heart disease and demand your triple bypass.
No. I've no intention to "hang onto life." Think Native American. When my time comes, I'll be happy to crawl off into the bushes to die alone.
3. My life insurance rates go up as you drop dead.
Talk to your toady politicos about that. I didn't ask for that.
4. My hospital bills go up as uninsured smokers take emergency services that the rest of us have to pay for.
Ibid.
5. You smell fucking awful from a mile away. It's like somebody taking a shit in the middle of my plate when you walk into a restaurant. You can't smell it because your nose is dead to your rankness, but everybody else can, and we can smell it across the room. It ruins our time. Thank goodness I live in California where you addicts are fewer and farther between.
Some genius mind-reader decided I was "complaining" about the your [country] (what do I gain if any good comes of some badly worded advice I gave -- a medal?)
A pat on the back? "Good job." "Better luck next time." "You suck, hoser!" "Hey, at least you spelled everything correctly." "DIE, you !@#$%%^**()_+!@#$@!!!!!"
Let's say someone really is against foreigners talking anything wrt the US. I find it foolish and would welcome any talk about my country (in fact, we're kinda focus seeking, I'd say), but, hey, whatever floats you colllective boat... kthxbai!
I talk trash about the US all the time. They deserve it! I also wish I were in Amsterdam (and a lot of other places). Sucks to be me. Crap, did I say that out loud?!?
Sorry if my words really can be read as anything offensive. Maybe this English thing is harder than I thought and I should try other languages...
I like Spanish. Habla Espanol? Que pasa? Buenos dias|tardes|noches.
I really have no idea what you're talking about, but I do love the way you say it. We should start up a club for people like us.
"Now it's back to the brightness, and everything I hate." -- Chronicles of Riddick.
Uh, except that it's not specifically "non-smokers" that do those things; it's people in general.
You're right. For me, it's difficult to think of those people (non-smokers) "like that" (smokers) when so many of us have all that other stuff in common.
I'm not sure anymore that I know what I'm talking about, sorry. It's been a long day.
I wish non-smokers were as considerate of the things I despise that they do.
What things do non-smokers do that you "despise", other than resenting your intrusion on their space?
Where to start? Okay, I'll try.
$deity, you're asking me to spout the litany of what's wrong with mankind, from stupidity through downright evil. This could take FOREVER!
Distracted driving, sexting, not looking both ways, not researching your home contractor, not learning math|history|chemistry|cosmology|..., religion|scientology|mormonism|judaism|...
McDonalds, Wendy's, Subway, Tim Horton's, A&W,...
Spitting on the sidewalk, peeing in public, not knowing when to bathe,...
Sorry, but life's too short to continue. You figure it out.
When we need one (which is very seldom), we use yours. It's less expensive and we don't have to suffer any (well, many) consequences from it.
Er, whose? How dare you accuse me of being a septic, you bounder! There'll be fisticuffs if you're not careful.
[Picture me banging my head against the wall trying to rattle my brains loose on a Sunday morning.]
Are you drunk? Honest question, because I have no idea what that means (and none of that's not an accusation of any kind, honest). What's a "septic"? Are you trying to tell me, in some bizarre 'Stralian sort of way that you're not a Murrican? Sorry for assuming wrongly if so./. is Murrican, so it's usually a safe assumption.
Canuck here, if it helps, and I think my cup of Scotch needs more coffee.:-|
While not defending MS or Apple, daylight savings time is actually bloody hard to handle.
There's a lot of data points, often manipulated by politicians, but it's not a complex problem. Give me five minutes, and I can design a db table that would handle it easily and would be simple to update for any changes. Give me ten more minutes and I'll write perl script interface to do it for mortals.
That neither MS nor Apple have figured this stuff out yet, twelve years after Y2k, is pretty funny.
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Because we are willing to trade efficiency and lower cost now for certain vulnerabilities, that's why.
I think it's a lot simpler than all of that. Simply put, they don't trust us and don't want to have to use us if they can get away with it. They don't understand our message even when we dumb it down into words they understand. They think we're still the Priests In White Coats and all we really do is feather our nests. If we're not doing something that's going to quickly bring in short term profit, then what we do is a waste of time and money in their view.
Short of re-education (and I can't realistically see that happening anytime soon), I see no solution. They've built the mess they're comfortable living in, and no amount of hand-wringing from us is going to change their minds.
So you think the 'spooks' ordered Japan to attack?
All 'm saying is, after all the things I've read recently now that some of that stuff's becoming declassified and starting to hit historians' desks, I wouldn't put it past them. Dieppe? William Stevenson (Intrepid) attempting a snatch and grab of the Nazi four rotor Enigma machine and code books. J. Edgar Hoover? Cross dresser. Hell, FDR's polio crippling was a closely guarded secret back then. Read some Vasili Mitrokhin (KGB's historian) for some really stunning stuff.
FDR, et al, maneouvering Japan into striking first isn't all that far fetched. Think Johnson & McNamara and the Gulf of Tonkin.
So what, you think Roosevelt ordered the Japanese attack?
It didn't have to be FDR. Spooks in the back rooms come up with !@#$ like this all the time. FDR was trying to drag the US out of the Depression and had been trying to figure out how to get the US into WWII for close to a year. The spooks just came up with a way for that to happen. Condolences to the navy.
lol you think the US 'lured' Japan into attacking Hawaii? Seriously?
"Let's line up all the planes on the ground close right beside each other, uh, to deter saboteurs and looters, yeah."
Meanwhile, strangle Japan's oil supply and bitch, bitch, bitch about what they're doing to the poor Chinese.
Yeah, utterly implausible. I wonder why the carriers weren't in Pearl that day. Oh, and Midway, that was just pure great work and execution on the US' part. Uh huh.
Biology question: how do I throw a zinger about "consporacy theories" at a biologist?
Ahhh, you're not trying hard enough. One word: Anthrax!
You don't even need the real thing. A bit of flour in an envelope stuffed into random screen door mail slots in residential neighbourhoods overnight, and you can shut an entire city down for days, maybe weeks. You can even bribe homeless winos with a bottle to do it early in the morning (tell them it's a promotional campaign for a contest and give 'em a cheap bottle of ripple to do it).
Worked on Congress.
Perhaps it has something to do with the fact that Rand wasn't libertarian. Maybe it's just the phrase "Ayn Rand nutters" pretty much screams flamebait, not serious knowlegable discussion. If he's that far off the mark on those two simple matters, perhaps he's never even bothered to read a wikipage on any of this, and is just whinging on second hand hearsay.
"The only way we will get rid of it, is by doing the *opposite* of hating them back."
Nope. That's not the only way. There's at least one other.
It doesn't work. Both the Nazis and the Khmer Rouge (among others?) tried it, and failed.
I generally hate this saying but, I wish I had mod points. I really like your proposal. Too bad there's not a chance in hell we'll ever get a system like that, or at least in my lifetime anyway.
... 'only 19000 against in the entire population! Surely it must be liked by most then.'
To which I'd reply, "Yet out of the entire population - 19000, not one of them considered this important enough for them to say so. I think that speaks volumes about how important this bill is for them. Isn't there something you ought to be focusing your energy on instead of this?"
Piemasters has 1 comment, this one, which is a first post.
And, your point is ...? We all start somewhere. Perhaps it's a former AC coming out of the closet. :-)
I thought the point of all of this is to weigh the pros and cons of the content, not tangentials. PieMasters actually expressed a valid opinion with no "Frist Post!!!111". What did you do other than stir the conspiracy pot with your big wooden spoon?
Sorry, that is your very own made-up-on-the-spot definition of "information". You can't just redefine words in a way that nobody else does.
From WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006) [wn]:
data
n 1: a collection of facts from which conclusions may be drawn;
"statistical data" [syn: {data}, {information}]
From The Free On-line Dictionary of Computing (26 July 2010) [foldoc]:
data /day't*/ (Or "raw data")
raw data
Numbers, {characters}, {images}, or other method of recording,
in a form which can be assessed by a human or (especially)
input into a {computer}, stored and {processed} there, or
transmitted on some {digital channel}. Computers nearly
always represent data in {binary}.
Data on its own has no meaning, only when interpreted by some
kind of {data processing system} does it take on meaning and
become {information}.
I believe Kurzweil is confused on the definitions of data vs. information. Information is data I've had time to digest and react to. If all you want to do is accumulate TBytes of raw data, yeah, the Cloud is fine for that. Whether you'll ever find the time to do anything with it all is another question.
It's things that lead to years of suffering followed by an early death that are bad for you.
Perhaps it's the fatalist in me, but I believe you just described the human condition, or life (whatever).
Latest estimates says the Universe is ca. 14 billion years old. Human lifespan == ca. 70 a.
Do you feel cheated yet? Do you really think I should worry about shortening that 70 a. to 70 -10 a?
I'm here now is all that counts. Another day, week, year, decade, ... is a gift, that's all, and a very small one at that.
Seems like you care very much what I think.
I cared enough to say I disagree, that's all.
You even wrote a rant. Cute.
$HUG.
And your nasty habit affects others in many ways:
1. Second hand smoke causes lung problems and cancer.
BS.
2. My health insurance costs go up when you get heart disease and demand your triple bypass.
No. I've no intention to "hang onto life." Think Native American. When my time comes, I'll be happy to crawl off into the bushes to die alone.
3. My life insurance rates go up as you drop dead.
Talk to your toady politicos about that. I didn't ask for that.
4. My hospital bills go up as uninsured smokers take emergency services that the rest of us have to pay for.
Ibid.
5. You smell fucking awful from a mile away. It's like somebody taking a shit in the middle of my plate when you walk into a restaurant. You can't smell it because your nose is dead to your rankness, but everybody else can, and we can smell it across the room. It ruins our time. Thank goodness I live in California where you addicts are fewer and farther between.
Have ... a day.
Dude, I got a -1.
In what? You mean /. moderation -1? BFD. :-P
Some genius mind-reader decided I was "complaining" about the your [country] (what do I gain if any good comes of some badly worded advice I gave -- a medal?)
A pat on the back? "Good job." "Better luck next time." "You suck, hoser!" "Hey, at least you spelled everything correctly." "DIE, you !@#$%%^**()_+!@#$@!!!!!"
Let's say someone really is against foreigners talking anything wrt the US. I find it foolish and would welcome any talk about my country (in fact, we're kinda focus seeking, I'd say), but, hey, whatever floats you colllective boat... kthxbai!
I talk trash about the US all the time. They deserve it! I also wish I were in Amsterdam (and a lot of other places). Sucks to be me. Crap, did I say that out loud?!?
Sorry if my words really can be read as anything offensive. Maybe this English thing is harder than I thought and I should try other languages...
I like Spanish. Habla Espanol? Que pasa? Buenos dias|tardes|noches.
I really have no idea what you're talking about, but I do love the way you say it. We should start up a club for people like us.
"Now it's back to the brightness, and everything I hate." -- Chronicles of Riddick.
Uh, except that it's not specifically "non-smokers" that do those things; it's people in general.
You're right. For me, it's difficult to think of those people (non-smokers) "like that" (smokers) when so many of us have all that other stuff in common.
I'm not sure anymore that I know what I'm talking about, sorry. It's been a long day.
That you're a bigot? Just guessing.
I wish non-smokers were as considerate of the things I despise that they do.
What things do non-smokers do that you "despise", other than resenting your intrusion on their space?
Where to start? Okay, I'll try.
$deity, you're asking me to spout the litany of what's wrong with mankind, from stupidity through downright evil. This could take FOREVER!
Distracted driving, sexting, not looking both ways, not researching your home contractor, not learning math|history|chemistry|cosmology|..., religion|scientology|mormonism|judaism|...
McDonalds, Wendy's, Subway, Tim Horton's, A&W, ...
Spitting on the sidewalk, peeing in public, not knowing when to bathe, ...
Sorry, but life's too short to continue. You figure it out.
Seconded. All in favour, say aye.
What does any of that have to do with Stanford profs offering a free course in networking?
[Disclaimer: I just signed up for it, and am looking forward to it. Thanks /. for the notify.]
You're an idiot.
This is an insanely defensive response to a simple congratulatory comment.
No, that's just your interpretation of the situation. Honest, I'm just trying to understand.
To the quitter, congratulations ma'am or sir!
I'll happily echo that. I've no intention of trying to stop anyone doing it. Yes, it's a silly habit. Easily agreed.
Since when did Canada have a president?
When we need one (which is very seldom), we use yours. It's less expensive and we don't have to suffer any (well, many) consequences from it.
Er, whose? How dare you accuse me of being a septic, you bounder! There'll be fisticuffs if you're not careful.
[Picture me banging my head against the wall trying to rattle my brains loose on a Sunday morning.]
Are you drunk? Honest question, because I have no idea what that means (and none of that's not an accusation of any kind, honest). What's a "septic"? Are you trying to tell me, in some bizarre 'Stralian sort of way that you're not a Murrican? Sorry for assuming wrongly if so. /. is Murrican, so it's usually a safe assumption.
Canuck here, if it helps, and I think my cup of Scotch needs more coffee. :-|
While not defending MS or Apple, daylight savings time is actually bloody hard to handle.
There's a lot of data points, often manipulated by politicians, but it's not a complex problem. Give me five minutes, and I can design a db table that would handle it easily and would be simple to update for any changes. Give me ten more minutes and I'll write perl script interface to do it for mortals.
That neither MS nor Apple have figured this stuff out yet, twelve years after Y2k, is pretty funny.
They are taking the jab because apple most defiantly isn't at the same level as even windows phone.
Defiantly, or definitely? I like the former, fwiw. Hahaaaaa. :-|
PS (full disclosure). I want neither an iBauble nor a WP*, but would accept a rooted Android if there were a gun pointed at my head. Just sayin'.