kindly start by explaining where the slightly off white not-quite-being-a-saint point lies.
Having a threesome. It would be cheating but your girlfriend can't exactly be jealous because she fucked the same girl you did.
Holy tangential, Batman! How you guys arrive at things like that on provocations like that is truly astounding. Why cheating and jealousy comes to mind, I don't understand. Your GF might consider it an entertaining turn on, you know? She might even want to help.
[And, I'd really like to have a girlfriend, but that's probably off-topic.]
As I've responded to others: I didn't claim this was the zenith of evil. Only that it is clearly beyond the gray zone.
And as I've responded to others, I'm having a really difficult time trying to understand why the courts are even bothering to look at this.
Haters gotta hate, and Google's a really big target. This is the worst you can come up with to tar them, and US courts are taking this seriously? Why? Zzzz...
Your situation is real though, the one here is just confusion stemming from a sentence took two different ways.
Ah. The "Ready, shoot, aim" problem. There is no solution to that short of age and experience. Some people prefer to shoot from the hip instead of asking for clarification. Sad.
These companies are tired of paying those levels of raises, and want to do a better job of holding down salary costs. So they enter into these agreements.
I see nothing wrong with that. Every commercial concern wants to keep costs down, and everyone's still able to go out and find a new job. These companies have just chosen not to pursue you. They'll take you if you show up and offer yourself and they want you, but they don't go out of their way to get you. What's evil about that?
Why's the legal system bothering to interfere in this? Has it run out of IP pirates to torment? Is the drug war finally winding down? OBL's dead, so the DHS is disbanding?
This just sounds very weird to me that your courts are bothering themselves with this (to my eyes) non-problem.
People with comfy jobs can be lazy about the job search.
I think that says it all. If I wanted a new job, I'd print out a copy of my resume and drop a photocopy off to the receptionist at every outfit I wanted to work for. I'd make sure that my email address was mentioned in it as well as a URL where it could be found online, and I'd be watching (eg.) dice.com et al and sending it to prospects mentioned there.
You people expect jobs to come out and look for you? This is a problem for your justice system to get involved?
It's the collusion that strays into evil territory: the negotiated agreement with your competitors to interfere with the employment market to hold down wages.
Nope, I'm still not getting it. Employee wants to jump ship to competitor,... And you people think a no cold call policy wrt competitors is going to slow him down, how?
Understand, I'm a dinosaur. I think anyone under 30 is demonstrably nuts.
If you don't like the morons in office, then why do you (we) keep putting them into office?
Probably because A) anytime someone runs for office on the platform of challenging the status quo, the powers that be immediately assault them by calling them 'crazy,' and B) the ignorant masses eat such marginalizations up like high-fructose corn syrup.
Or C) Candidates feel free to lie about what they're going to do in representing their electorate, and promptly forget about their promises once elected, and the electorate let them get away with that (or have no power to change this).
We need term limits and easy recall ("You're fired!") for all politicians.
And "None of the above" should be used as a write in candidate *much* more often, and should be accepted as valid by the authorities. People ought to read more L. Neil Smith.
it's not democracy, or republic, and far away from fascism yet.
Spit it out. It's (so far, dependant upon who you are) a "benevolent dictatorship", with *a lot* of the stink of fascism. They just haven't bothered to come for you yet. That "benevolent" bit can change in a heart beat however. Keep watching.
This is turning out to be a very interesting century (as in the Chinese curse - "May you live in interesting times").
It's the most clearly evil thing I know of Google doing.
I'm having a hard time understanding how the word evil comes anywhere near this story. You have a corporate policy to not poach (cold call) competitors' employees with job offers, and that's evil? How? How does that hurt an employee who wants to change employers?
God (or nature) certainly does play dice. Darwin proved that conclusively.
That's an entirely different ballpark.
Scientists. How can you say that?!? It is the same ballpark, the natural Universe. It's just a pretty big ballpark and lots of wildly different games can be played in it simultaneously, from tiddlywinks through to quantum mechanics, and more yet to be discovered. Stop being so literal.
WTF. Why diss the man with stuff you read on breakfast cereal?
I wasn't dissing him. He's one of my heroes, but nobody's perfect. "Don't tell god what to do" was the perfect reply to him. He was an arrogant stick in the mud at times and (horrors!) did make some pretty big mistakes. I don't begrudge him that. He earned that right, but ignoring his faults doesn't make them go away.
I don't often bother with breakfast, and cereal wouldn't be my first choice, so bite my shiney metal...
Get rid of *career* politicians and most of these problems will go away.
I've often wondered why US Presidents are limited to two terms, yet the likes of Robert Bird, Joe Lieberman, and John McCain are left to fleece the taxpayers for decades on end.
Pity they failed this time (if only perhaps in the choice of Steven Weinberg).
You would expect that a physicist would know what's been going on in astronomy, yes? Almost all of the big telescopes for at least the last twenty years that I've been watching have been multinational efforts. Mauna Kea, Chile,... Lots of countries chip in if only for the right to get their researchers into the game.
And now, I think it's time I fired up "Contact" again.:-)
I thank a freeware/shareware version of it (on an 8086 cpu) for my first introduction to RSI. I learned my lesson and swapped computer games out for *nix instead.
After all, quite a number of people believe for example that Albert Einstein was a religious person in terms of following some religion, yet there is plenty of his writing where he specifically states that he does not believe in a god.
I would say Albert was "spiritual", not religious, as many physicists are, though along the same lines as Ayn Rand's "God damn." It's just a figure of speech.
He didn't help dissuade anyone with his "God doesn't play dice" crap. God (or nature) certainly does play dice. Darwin proved that conclusively.
Seems the beginning of the plumbers was when J. Edgar Hoover refused to start tapping the phones of all the friends and relatives of groups like The Weathermen.
Hoover just resented them encroaching on his turf.
Are they hiring? Sounds like fascinating work for a misanthrope like me.
I was musing along the same lines, but even more thinking I could do it a hell of a lot better than what I've seen of the current misanthropes' efforts. TFA sounds pretty scattershot and juvenile, IMO. Sort of like contractors doing it from the bar, once they got drunk enough to build up enough false courage.
Most of us know perfectly well what libertarianism is.
You haven't been reading/. comments all that carefully, else you wouldn't say that. Some of you understand it. Most of you haven't a clue what libertarianism means, and generally go off on ridiculous tangents based on personal beliefs, not facts or informed opinions.
Use your time to work on something meaningful, not whining about your tragic lost warez website.
I'd never heard of Megaupload before this brouhaha blew out into the open. Nor am I a "pirate" (I advocate boycotting **AA crap), nor do I think I actually like K. Dotcom. Regardless, even I can see lots of stink in this mess, and most of that's on the prosecution's side, not MU's.
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Really, so rape, murder, torture, etc. are not as bad.
Those are all worse, and equally clearly beyond the gray zone.
Equally clearly? You spear-phishers can't find anything more smelly than this to accuse Google of having perpetrated?
Slow news day.
kindly start by explaining where the slightly off white not-quite-being-a-saint point lies.
Having a threesome. It would be cheating but your girlfriend can't exactly be jealous because she fucked the same girl you did.
Holy tangential, Batman! How you guys arrive at things like that on provocations like that is truly astounding. Why cheating and jealousy comes to mind, I don't understand. Your GF might consider it an entertaining turn on, you know? She might even want to help.
[And, I'd really like to have a girlfriend, but that's probably off-topic.]
As I've responded to others: I didn't claim this was the zenith of evil. Only that it is clearly beyond the gray zone.
And as I've responded to others, I'm having a really difficult time trying to understand why the courts are even bothering to look at this.
Haters gotta hate, and Google's a really big target. This is the worst you can come up with to tar them, and US courts are taking this seriously? Why? Zzzz ...
Your situation is real though, the one here is just confusion stemming from a sentence took two different ways.
Ah. The "Ready, shoot, aim" problem. There is no solution to that short of age and experience. Some people prefer to shoot from the hip instead of asking for clarification. Sad.
These companies are tired of paying those levels of raises, and want to do a better job of holding down salary costs. So they enter into these agreements.
I see nothing wrong with that. Every commercial concern wants to keep costs down, and everyone's still able to go out and find a new job. These companies have just chosen not to pursue you. They'll take you if you show up and offer yourself and they want you, but they don't go out of their way to get you. What's evil about that?
Why's the legal system bothering to interfere in this? Has it run out of IP pirates to torment? Is the drug war finally winding down? OBL's dead, so the DHS is disbanding?
This just sounds very weird to me that your courts are bothering themselves with this (to my eyes) non-problem.
People with comfy jobs can be lazy about the job search.
I think that says it all. If I wanted a new job, I'd print out a copy of my resume and drop a photocopy off to the receptionist at every outfit I wanted to work for. I'd make sure that my email address was mentioned in it as well as a URL where it could be found online, and I'd be watching (eg.) dice.com et al and sending it to prospects mentioned there.
You people expect jobs to come out and look for you? This is a problem for your justice system to get involved?
I really am a dinosaur. :-|
It's the collusion that strays into evil territory: the negotiated agreement with your competitors to interfere with the employment market to hold down wages.
Nope, I'm still not getting it. Employee wants to jump ship to competitor, ... And you people think a no cold call policy wrt competitors is going to slow him down, how?
Understand, I'm a dinosaur. I think anyone under 30 is demonstrably nuts.
If you don't like the morons in office, then why do you (we) keep putting them into office?
Probably because A) anytime someone runs for office on the platform of challenging the status quo, the powers that be immediately assault them by calling them 'crazy,' and B) the ignorant masses eat such marginalizations up like high-fructose corn syrup.
Or C) Candidates feel free to lie about what they're going to do in representing their electorate, and promptly forget about their promises once elected, and the electorate let them get away with that (or have no power to change this).
We need term limits and easy recall ("You're fired!") for all politicians.
And "None of the above" should be used as a write in candidate *much* more often, and should be accepted as valid by the authorities. People ought to read more L. Neil Smith.
it's not democracy, or republic, and far away from fascism yet.
Spit it out. It's (so far, dependant upon who you are) a "benevolent dictatorship", with *a lot* of the stink of fascism. They just haven't bothered to come for you yet. That "benevolent" bit can change in a heart beat however. Keep watching.
This is turning out to be a very interesting century (as in the Chinese curse - "May you live in interesting times").
It's the most clearly evil thing I know of Google doing.
I'm having a hard time understanding how the word evil comes anywhere near this story. You have a corporate policy to not poach (cold call) competitors' employees with job offers, and that's evil? How? How does that hurt an employee who wants to change employers?
Mods, get off the crack (I'm referring to the guy being modded down for giving you morons a lesson in fucking reading comprehension)
Seconded! Thank you. I was accused of dissing Einstein this morning, ffs. Jeebus.
Which is more evilerist?
ITYM "evil".
God (or nature) certainly does play dice. Darwin proved that conclusively.
That's an entirely different ballpark.
Scientists. How can you say that?!? It is the same ballpark, the natural Universe. It's just a pretty big ballpark and lots of wildly different games can be played in it simultaneously, from tiddlywinks through to quantum mechanics, and more yet to be discovered. Stop being so literal.
WTF. Why diss the man with stuff you read on breakfast cereal?
I wasn't dissing him. He's one of my heroes, but nobody's perfect. "Don't tell god what to do" was the perfect reply to him. He was an arrogant stick in the mud at times and (horrors!) did make some pretty big mistakes. I don't begrudge him that. He earned that right, but ignoring his faults doesn't make them go away.
I don't often bother with breakfast, and cereal wouldn't be my first choice, so bite my shiney metal ...
Get rid of *career* politicians and most of these problems will go away.
I've often wondered why US Presidents are limited to two terms, yet the likes of Robert Bird, Joe Lieberman, and John McCain are left to fleece the taxpayers for decades on end.
And now, I think it's time I fired up "Contact" again. :-)
Large ground-based observatory development has also had significant private funding for much of history ...
... Which leads right back to "Contact". lt was a private investor that funded her projects when no-one else would.
The Keck interferometer was kickstarted with private funding too, as were many others.
Pity they failed this time (if only perhaps in the choice of Steven Weinberg).
You would expect that a physicist would know what's been going on in astronomy, yes? Almost all of the big telescopes for at least the last twenty years that I've been watching have been multinational efforts. Mauna Kea, Chile, ... Lots of countries chip in if only for the right to get their researchers into the game.
And now, I think it's time I fired up "Contact" again. :-)
People still play that boring game?
I thank a freeware/shareware version of it (on an 8086 cpu) for my first introduction to RSI. I learned my lesson and swapped computer games out for *nix instead.
Fritterware: lets you fritter your life away.
That's how far to the right the Overton window has shifted in the US.
Huh. Useful information.
After all, quite a number of people believe for example that Albert Einstein was a religious person in terms of following some religion, yet there is plenty of his writing where he specifically states that he does not believe in a god.
I would say Albert was "spiritual", not religious, as many physicists are, though along the same lines as Ayn Rand's "God damn." It's just a figure of speech.
He didn't help dissuade anyone with his "God doesn't play dice" crap. God (or nature) certainly does play dice. Darwin proved that conclusively.
Seems the beginning of the plumbers was when J. Edgar Hoover refused to start tapping the phones of all the friends and relatives of groups like The Weathermen.
Hoover just resented them encroaching on his turf.
I'm sure merely suggesting the above puts you in the "you must be supporting terrorists" camp.
The USA's "Founding Fathers" were considered terrorists. High praise, methinks.
Are they hiring? Sounds like fascinating work for a misanthrope like me.
I was musing along the same lines, but even more thinking I could do it a hell of a lot better than what I've seen of the current misanthropes' efforts. TFA sounds pretty scattershot and juvenile, IMO. Sort of like contractors doing it from the bar, once they got drunk enough to build up enough false courage.
Humans always favor some over others.
Not true. Some of us are driven by principle. What's right is right, and what's wrong is wrong, regardless of who's promoting or denigrating it.
Civilization shouldn't be a popularity contest.
Most of us know perfectly well what libertarianism is.
You haven't been reading /. comments all that carefully, else you wouldn't say that. Some of you understand it. Most of you haven't a clue what libertarianism means, and generally go off on ridiculous tangents based on personal beliefs, not facts or informed opinions.
Use your time to work on something meaningful, not whining about your tragic lost warez website.
I'd never heard of Megaupload before this brouhaha blew out into the open. Nor am I a "pirate" (I advocate boycotting **AA crap), nor do I think I actually like K. Dotcom. Regardless, even I can see lots of stink in this mess, and most of that's on the prosecution's side, not MU's.