I'm actually impressed that they're admitting that they don't know.
I'm impressed they're admitting they've never heard of logservers. You know, those servers that're damned near inaccessible and do nothing but accept log event reports from all the other servers on their network?
... at what point did *obeying the law* become *evil*!
Invoking Godwin, in 3, 2, 1...
Evil laws shouldn't be obeyed, period. Do you really trust politicians of today to not write evil laws? Sometimes, it seems like that's all they do these days. Since when was censorship not evil? Since when was freedom of speech evil?
1. The drive is encrypted so file copy will not work though a disk image might.
Yup, crack it.
2. Even if "cp-rp" worked, prove that that the drive was not tampered with before the copy was done.
"Pics, or it didn't happen." Agreed. Take pics.
3. Any good hacker can manipulate date stamps using a sector editor( read a sector, manipulate the bits, write the sector. That did not go through the file system so no time stamp info written).
Pics again.
4. Who is to say that the data was not manipulated after the decryption was done.
What? You've got the decryption code, so you're in. diff?
Basically, [any] competent hacker can manipulate the data and no one would ever know.
You don't send one cop to a crime scene and let him run amok, leaving individual's lives hanging in the balance, or we shouldn't. Who watches the watchers? The other watchers, of course.
Gibbs wouldn't let this !@#$ happen on his watch. Chain of evidence processing is serious business. Bad guys should be caught and nailed to the wall with evidence proving their guilt, or we wait and get 'em next time.
What's the hurry? You're a prosecutor running for re-election? I'm glad my country doesn't suffer from that affliction.
Pardon me, but I'm going to go watch Firefly now, as it appears none of you make any sense. Bye.
But.. but... how can you watch Firefly when Nielsen and NPD confirm that people buy cellphones?:O
This NPD? "NPD is a large polling company that that helps other companies report information about public.occationally they mess up really bad"
Wow. There is one hole hell of a lot of "FAIL" in there.
I need a new wristwatch... one with a stockmarket ticker... so I know with which mp3 player i"ll father my next child..
I believe you just proved my original point.
I think I'll go look for willing clitorises to pleasure now, toodles. [I believe the world would be a much better place were my tounge pleasuring more clitorises (but that's just my opinion).]
You're not suggesting those other countries actually matter, are you? What century are you living in?:-)
Not the century one that forgets where the majority of the world's population or where the strongest currency is.
China? Really? The country with the most worthless people (per capita)? Doin' the math,... One country / 7 billion people...
Do any individual Chinese citizens amount to anything worth your consideration, or do you just throw them into the meat grinder as usual AS CHINA HAS FOR THE PAST FOUR THOUSAND YEARS? To the PRC, I'm wondering. Sorry, venting, I may have issues.
BTW, I do have Chinese friends. Some of them are fairly special to me.
Damn, I'm looking forward to seeing you asshats in the crosshairs of my sniper rifle. Now why does "People's Republic of China" make me giggle so hard?
Oh yeah. Mao Tse Tung!
You know where to find me, and the sooner the better.
Then why the statement that the cops have to "PROVE" that a hard drive has not been tampered with while in their posession?
Because it has to be? Someone's life is at stake. He may be a perp, but if he's not,...
This is pretty basic stuff for a computer geek. Every file gets a time stamp when it's last touched or on its creation. Save an initial backup copy of the drive's contents (cp -rp...) then only mount it read only (or the copy, preferably), and you'll be golden! This should be simple stuff for a forensics lab. Abigail or Timothy (NCIS), help me out here!:-)
And if the bum really is guilty, I do want him to go to jail. I'll help you nail him if you'll let me. I don't want creeps running loose, making victims of my friends or family.
My bottom line is cops should be as good at their stuff as I am at mine, and there's plenty of stories out there showing *some* definitely are not. I'd prefer those stories never happened in the first place. I think Thomas Jefferson agreed with me. That's not a condition unique to cops. There's lots of people in my business who don't deserve to be there either.
[And if you're a cop in real life:-), I bow in your general direction, and thank you. You're one of my heros, whether you know it or not.]
China called, they want their security apparatus back.
You're not really falling for that, are you? Up to now, they've just been testing it in North Korea and Tibet. Now, they're rolling it out to Production (aka, everywhere).
This is what facebook and google are for Just legislate a back.door into each and go right to step 4...
You don't need a backdoor in them when the front door is loosy juicy by design. Neither of those entities give a flying !@#$ about privacy or anonimity.
You may like cops but from the following statement you don't trust them.
"It has been in legal custody since then and we have not tampered with it." "Prove it. I DO NOT BELIEVE YOU." By those standards no one could ever be convicted of anything as any evidence in the possession of the police may have been tampered with.
Not even close! Pretty much any cop car these days has a CCTV camera. We've been using "evidence tags" for hundreds of years now. Any cop doing anything "interesting" these days may be uploaded to Youtube any minute now, and what's the resolution of that satellite's spy cam? "Did we have a drone in the area at the time?"
I don't expect cops to be any better than I am, but I do expect them to do their job at least as well as I can do mine. Frankly, I'd like to help, if they'd take me.
And I really (honest!) do like cops. Some of them are pretty damned cute.:-) "What's your phone no?" "911."
Cops have saved my butt more times than I can remember.
Other than the purported rapes, which of his activities are "unlawful?" Accepting and reporting on information from so-called "whistleblowers"?
Depends on whether or not he solicited the information, or was a passive recipient of it from a whistle-blower/leaker.
As a mere occupant of this planet, I think it's better that politicians' bad behaviour sees the light of day. You believe in the letter of the law instead, it seems.
I believe the truth should set you free. I hate your litiginous regime. Clifford Irving did the world a favor, and you should think this is very much in the style of that, if you're not a USA LEO.
And we Japanese are strong when backed into a corner!
FYI (and no disrespect intended:-), the world outside Japan does not think "strong" when considering Okinawan civilians throwing themselves off cliffs for the honor of the Emperor. Japan should not have backed itself into that corner in the first place (which you probably already know, sorry; I'm just venting).
I've a great deal of respect and admiration for Japan, its people, and its arts and history, but I'm really glad Japan outgrew some of it. I hope the Chinese and North Koreans will someday learn this lesson.
Hazaa!
["Tell me how he died?" "I will tell you how he lived." -- Tom Cruise; "The Last Samurai"]
Do you have the equivalent of the U.S. Constitution's Fifth Amendment?
Considering pleading the fifth in the US is no longer valid, North Korea and the PRC would appear to have the equivalent of the US' Fifth Amendment protection, as in none.
Nice try at a diversion. You answered a different question.
No, I answered a bigger question, one that contained your piddly little specific case.
Bottom line, you don't have a Fifth Amendment nowadays, and it's immaterial whether or not anyone else does. HAND.:-|
Where exactly did operagost imply that a "who's who of suck" means a "who's who of countries I'd like to invade and kill 200k people"?
I [thought] he meant a "who's who of nations which would really suck to live in".
Six of one, or a half a dozen of the other. Your thought was more valid than my thought, why? To me, "Who's Who of Suck" means what GWB thought of Saddam Hussein's Iraq.
I've actually even been to Sudan, and loved the place so much I didn't want to leave.
Your desire not to stay there clearly overpowered whatever desire you might have had to stay there.
I was a contractor working for a multinational that owned property there. I completed the job and only had a limited stay work permit/visa. Yeah, I suppose if I was really motivated to stay, I could have gone native and run off to Darfur or the south, but that would have been wrong. I thought I owed it to my employer to return and finish the contract I'd signed up for, silly me. Scruples can be so limiting!
Is change better effected through union or through cult of personality?
this needs modpoints.
No, it doesn't. "Cool" sounding, but barely articulated opinions, never do.
I'm in favor of unions, if by that we're speaking of sexual relations between consenting adults. Babies are wonderful things and excellent examples of change. There's no way to tell if that's what's being spoken of here. He's just acting "hipster" from what I can tell, and from there I can easily segue stage right into Apple's Reality Distortion Field and the Now Divine Steve Jobs cultism.
See how words can be misused by someone intent on doing so?
Say what you mean and nail it down so far it cannot possibly mean anything other than what you mean. "A man's a man who looks a man right between the eyes." -- Neil Young?
Oh, and hyperbole doesn't work all that well on the net. There's too many out there who'll take it literally.
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I'm actually impressed that they're admitting that they don't know.
I'm impressed they're admitting they've never heard of logservers. You know, those servers that're damned near inaccessible and do nothing but accept log event reports from all the other servers on their network?
Either that, or their backup regime sucks.
If you had bothered to RTFA, ...
Hah. Good one.
Anyone can use google.com/ncr (NCR stands for "no country redirect") to see the original page without geographical redirection.
So, you're saying the summary doesn't really summarize? Damn! So, the summary sensationalizes the situation? Damn again. Is that allowed, or expected?
Rhetorical.
... at what point did *obeying the law* become *evil*!
Invoking Godwin, in 3, 2, 1 ...
Evil laws shouldn't be obeyed, period. Do you really trust politicians of today to not write evil laws? Sometimes, it seems like that's all they do these days. Since when was censorship not evil? Since when was freedom of speech evil?
I hate this century.
1. The drive is encrypted so file copy will not work though a disk image might.
Yup, crack it.
2. Even if "cp-rp" worked, prove that that the drive was not tampered with before the copy was done.
"Pics, or it didn't happen." Agreed. Take pics.
3. Any good hacker can manipulate date stamps using a sector editor( read a sector, manipulate the bits, write the sector. That did not go through the file system so no time stamp info written).
Pics again.
4. Who is to say that the data was not manipulated after the decryption was done.
What? You've got the decryption code, so you're in. diff?
Basically, [any] competent hacker can manipulate the data and no one would ever know.
You don't send one cop to a crime scene and let him run amok, leaving individual's lives hanging in the balance, or we shouldn't. Who watches the watchers? The other watchers, of course.
Gibbs wouldn't let this !@#$ happen on his watch. Chain of evidence processing is serious business. Bad guys should be caught and nailed to the wall with evidence proving their guilt, or we wait and get 'em next time.
What's the hurry? You're a prosecutor running for re-election? I'm glad my country doesn't suffer from that affliction.
Your assumptions amuse me, mistakening me for Chinese.
Yeah, I've got to admit, that looked pretty strange to me too this morning. I'll go find a wall to bang my head on now.
Pardon me, but I'm going to go watch Firefly now, as it appears none of you make any sense. Bye.
But.. but... how can you watch Firefly when Nielsen and NPD confirm that people buy cellphones? :O
This NPD? "NPD is a large polling company that that helps other companies report information about public. occationally they mess up really bad"
Wow. There is one hole hell of a lot of "FAIL" in there.
I need a new wristwatch... one with a stockmarket ticker... so I know with which mp3 player i"ll father my next child..
I believe you just proved my original point.
I think I'll go look for willing clitorises to pleasure now, toodles. [I believe the world would be a much better place were my tounge pleasuring more clitorises (but that's just my opinion).]
You're not suggesting those other countries actually matter, are you? What century are you living in? :-)
Not the century one that forgets where the majority of the world's population or where the strongest currency is.
China? Really? The country with the most worthless people (per capita)? Doin' the math, ... One country / 7 billion people ...
Do any individual Chinese citizens amount to anything worth your consideration, or do you just throw them into the meat grinder as usual AS CHINA HAS FOR THE PAST FOUR THOUSAND YEARS? To the PRC, I'm wondering. Sorry, venting, I may have issues.
BTW, I do have Chinese friends. Some of them are fairly special to me.
Damn, I'm looking forward to seeing you asshats in the crosshairs of my sniper rifle. Now why does "People's Republic of China" make me giggle so hard?
Oh yeah. Mao Tse Tung!
You know where to find me, and the sooner the better.
Then why the statement that the cops have to "PROVE" that a hard drive has not been tampered with while in their posession?
Because it has to be? Someone's life is at stake. He may be a perp, but if he's not, ...
This is pretty basic stuff for a computer geek. Every file gets a time stamp when it's last touched or on its creation. Save an initial backup copy of the drive's contents (cp -rp ...) then only mount it read only (or the copy, preferably), and you'll be golden! This should be simple stuff for a forensics lab. Abigail or Timothy (NCIS), help me out here! :-)
And if the bum really is guilty, I do want him to go to jail. I'll help you nail him if you'll let me. I don't want creeps running loose, making victims of my friends or family.
My bottom line is cops should be as good at their stuff as I am at mine, and there's plenty of stories out there showing *some* definitely are not. I'd prefer those stories never happened in the first place. I think Thomas Jefferson agreed with me. That's not a condition unique to cops. There's lots of people in my business who don't deserve to be there either.
[And if you're a cop in real life :-), I bow in your general direction, and thank you. You're one of my heros, whether you know it or not.]
China called, they want their security apparatus back.
You're not really falling for that, are you? Up to now, they've just been testing it in North Korea and Tibet. Now, they're rolling it out to Production (aka, everywhere).
This century is really beginning to piss me off.
This is what facebook and google are for ...
Just legislate a back.door into each and go right to step 4
You don't need a backdoor in them when the front door is loosy juicy by design. Neither of those entities give a flying !@#$ about privacy or anonimity.
Why not just force every citizen to post a continuous blog of their every activity at every moment of every day for all time?
That would be either homicidally boring, or Twitter.com.
How the !@#$ do politicians get this stupid?!? This has to be a plot! Goldfinger? Dr. No?!?
Goldmember!
You do know there is more countries than just the U.S, right?
You're not suggesting those other countries actually matter, are you? What century are you living in? :-)
Woo-hoo! I hope there's lots of sex!
Assange seems to know lots about kinky Nordic sex!
how much do you get paid for posting shit like this?
Posting shit like that is the closest some idiots get to sex. Pity him.
Flamebait? You've GOT to be kidding me. :-(
You may like cops but from the following statement you don't trust them.
"It has been in legal custody since then and we have not tampered with it." "Prove it. I DO NOT BELIEVE YOU." By those standards no one could ever be convicted of anything as any evidence in the possession of the police may have been tampered with.
Not even close! Pretty much any cop car these days has a CCTV camera. We've been using "evidence tags" for hundreds of years now. Any cop doing anything "interesting" these days may be uploaded to Youtube any minute now, and what's the resolution of that satellite's spy cam? "Did we have a drone in the area at the time?"
I don't expect cops to be any better than I am, but I do expect them to do their job at least as well as I can do mine. Frankly, I'd like to help, if they'd take me.
And I really (honest!) do like cops. Some of them are pretty damned cute. :-) "What's your phone no?" "911."
Cops have saved my butt more times than I can remember.
Pardon me, but I'm going to go watch Firefly now, as it appears none of you make any sense. Bye.
Other than the purported rapes, which of his activities are "unlawful?" Accepting and reporting on information from so-called "whistleblowers"?
Depends on whether or not he solicited the information, or was a passive recipient of it from a whistle-blower/leaker.
As a mere occupant of this planet, I think it's better that politicians' bad behaviour sees the light of day. You believe in the letter of the law instead, it seems.
I believe the truth should set you free. I hate your litiginous regime. Clifford Irving did the world a favor, and you should think this is very much in the style of that, if you're not a USA LEO.
To me, "Who's Who of Suck" means what GWB thought of Saddam Hussein's Iraq.
Because to anyone other than a psychopath, the statement "you suck" does not imply "and I'm going to kill you and take your stuff".
We're talking about the "Who's Who of Suck" here, as in the very bottom of the barrel, not just "you suck". Try to keep up, ffs.
The "mainstream media" in question is RT, the Kremlin-funded TV. I kid you not.
better reporting than any of the american cable 'news' channels. Go watch RT America.
www.rt.com/usa
Anonymous Threatens to Take Down Facebook in Operation Global Blackout! Woohoo! :-) Now that's entertainment!
In a moment, I'll have as my guest one of the network executives ...
Rupert Murdoch? Yeah, that'd be a great show. Hope it gets uploaded to TPB.
And we Japanese are strong when backed into a corner!
FYI (and no disrespect intended :-), the world outside Japan does not think "strong" when considering Okinawan civilians throwing themselves off cliffs for the honor of the Emperor. Japan should not have backed itself into that corner in the first place (which you probably already know, sorry; I'm just venting).
I've a great deal of respect and admiration for Japan, its people, and its arts and history, but I'm really glad Japan outgrew some of it. I hope the Chinese and North Koreans will someday learn this lesson.
Hazaa!
["Tell me how he died?" "I will tell you how he lived." -- Tom Cruise; "The Last Samurai"]
Do you have the equivalent of the U.S. Constitution's Fifth Amendment?
Considering pleading the fifth in the US is no longer valid, North Korea and the PRC would appear to have the equivalent of the US' Fifth Amendment protection, as in none.
Nice try at a diversion. You answered a different question.
No, I answered a bigger question, one that contained your piddly little specific case.
Bottom line, you don't have a Fifth Amendment nowadays, and it's immaterial whether or not anyone else does. HAND. :-|
Where exactly did operagost imply that a "who's who of suck" means a "who's who of countries I'd like to invade and kill 200k people"?
I [thought] he meant a "who's who of nations which would really suck to live in".
Six of one, or a half a dozen of the other. Your thought was more valid than my thought, why? To me, "Who's Who of Suck" means what GWB thought of Saddam Hussein's Iraq.
I've actually even been to Sudan, and loved the place so much I didn't want to leave.
Your desire not to stay there clearly overpowered whatever desire you might have had to stay there.
I was a contractor working for a multinational that owned property there. I completed the job and only had a limited stay work permit/visa. Yeah, I suppose if I was really motivated to stay, I could have gone native and run off to Darfur or the south, but that would have been wrong. I thought I owed it to my employer to return and finish the contract I'd signed up for, silly me. Scruples can be so limiting!
Is change better effected through union or through cult of personality?
this needs modpoints.
No, it doesn't. "Cool" sounding, but barely articulated opinions, never do.
I'm in favor of unions, if by that we're speaking of sexual relations between consenting adults. Babies are wonderful things and excellent examples of change. There's no way to tell if that's what's being spoken of here. He's just acting "hipster" from what I can tell, and from there I can easily segue stage right into Apple's Reality Distortion Field and the Now Divine Steve Jobs cultism.
See how words can be misused by someone intent on doing so?
Say what you mean and nail it down so far it cannot possibly mean anything other than what you mean. "A man's a man who looks a man right between the eyes." -- Neil Young?
Oh, and hyperbole doesn't work all that well on the net. There's too many out there who'll take it literally.
Have you been paying attention?
Have you? Just a couple of days ago, Britain pretty much granted the extradition of an "IP Pirate". So, why's it necessary to involve Sweden here?
Woo-hoo! I hope there's lots of sex!
Assange seems to know lots about kinky Nordic sex!
how much do you get paid for posting shit like this?
Posting shit like that is the closest some idiots get to sex. Pity him.