Part of its genetic material came from a swine flu. Part came from a bird flu, and part came from a human flu. The first person to catch it may have gotten it from a bird, or it may have evolved right there in that person. It is quite possible that no pig has ever been infected with this virus. There is as much grounds to call it bird flu or people flu as swine flu. How about manpigbird flu?
> Really? I'd think that having minimal running water for days at a time [typepad.com] > could be a problem. Also, how about a population density [google.com] that's over seven > times that of New York City [google.com]?
While those factors might partially account for a higher overall mortality rate they would not account for a high mortality rate amoung healthy adults. You would still see the classic bathtub curve with no hump in the middle.
Among Mexicans. Nobody else has even gotten really sick. Which his very strange. The numbers are getting large enough to make it unlikely that that is coincidence, but what else could it be?
It isn't that in the US the victims pulled through due to proper and timely health care: they didn't get very sick at all. The 1918 version was deadliest for healthy young adults, like the teenagers who brought this virus to the US. Yet most of them were only slightly ill.
> Sorry to point out the obvious here but Mexico City is located more then a mile above > sea level (higher elevation then Denver). Could environmental factors be the reason that > people are dying of respritory complications in Mexico
Do cities at high elevations normally see a much higher than average death rate from influenza?
> Maybe if we didn't completely sterilize every conceivable surface in out packing houses > and restaurants, sterilize foods in radiation and chemicals, and push people to drench > their houses in Lysol every time somebody coughed, we either wouldn't have this problem, > or it wouldn't be as bad as it is.
"We" didn't do all that in 1918. 50 million people died. Hygiene is primarily responsible for the drastic reduction in infectious disease in the last 100 years.
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You mean the "SCIENCE" of bureaucracy, I assume.
> It came from Swine.
Part of its genetic material came from a swine flu. Part came from a bird flu, and part came from a human flu. The first person to catch it may have gotten it from a bird, or it may have evolved right there in that person. It is quite possible that no pig has ever been infected with this virus. There is as much grounds to call it bird flu or people flu as swine flu. How about manpigbird flu?
Ok, call it the Bush flu.
> Call it the Colbert flu? I don't think so. Colbert was just being funny...
So are we.
> Anyway, Colbert is generally a positive influence.
Only if you agree with his politics.
Why? It sounds like it is too mucked up to be very dangerous.
Initially, only in Spain.
> Really? I'd think that having minimal running water for days at a time [typepad.com]
> could be a problem. Also, how about a population density [google.com] that's over seven
> times that of New York City [google.com]?
While those factors might partially account for a higher overall mortality rate they would not account for a high mortality rate amoung healthy adults. You would still see the classic bathtub curve with no hump in the middle.
> Seriously, folks, where are the adults?
There are no "adults". All people are human, with human failings.
> Would hate to die of Swine Flu, just because of what it's called... and all that it
> would imply if I caught it...
Then call it Mexican flu.
> ...but only wipe out one population...
Something went wrong. It's only killing 5%.
Congress enacted the law which Apple claims as the grounds for its action.
Most of the cost of such lawsuits is lawyer's fees. Apple's lawyers charge on the order of $500/hour. The EFF's lawyers charge nothing.
> They need to lighten up.
You expect Steve Jobs to lighten up?
Swine flu, or Twitter?
> So far it seems to have a 5% mortality rate...
Among Mexicans. Nobody else has even gotten really sick. Which his very strange. The numbers are getting large enough to make it unlikely that that is coincidence, but what else could it be?
Thank you. I see that it is now considered to be of avian origin. It did used to be considered a swine flu, though.
It isn't that in the US the victims pulled through due to proper and timely health care: they didn't get very sick at all. The 1918 version was deadliest for healthy young adults, like the teenagers who brought this virus to the US. Yet most of them were only slightly ill.
> It's not (just) flu though, it's Swine Flu, so there's no real reason for surprise in
> this regard.
The surprise is that the fatality rate is high in Mexico but in the USA people don't get very sick from it (though the sample is small so far here).
> Don't be so sure about it my friend. My parents work in the NHS. The procedure for a flu
> pandemic assumes that society will collapse
I'd be willing to bet you quite a large amount of money that it won't (think about that for a minute before you answer).
> Sorry to point out the obvious here but Mexico City is located more then a mile above
> sea level (higher elevation then Denver). Could environmental factors be the reason that
> people are dying of respritory complications in Mexico
Do cities at high elevations normally see a much higher than average death rate from influenza?
> so ... does this mean that young people should be given some
> cyclosporin to temporarily weaken their immune systems?
Steroids such as prednisone are cheaper and safer.
> I think this will be contained much like bird flu was.
"Bird flu" hasn't happened yet. That virus has not yet acquired the ability to pass from human to human.
> Maybe if we didn't completely sterilize every conceivable surface in out packing houses
> and restaurants, sterilize foods in radiation and chemicals, and push people to drench
> their houses in Lysol every time somebody coughed, we either wouldn't have this problem,
> or it wouldn't be as bad as it is.
"We" didn't do all that in 1918. 50 million people died. Hygiene is primarily responsible for the drastic reduction in infectious disease in the last 100 years.
This is a respiratory virus. It is not transmitted via food. You can eat that pig. Just don't kiss it.
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