> But the most relevant part was that they shot fireworks off the pier into the mar, sea, > which exploded off of the water, something I doubt they would do in America...
A major function of insanely long copyrights is to prevent material from entering the public domain soon enough to compete with newly-released stuff. If the Dr. No movie was in the public domain where it belongs you might download and watch it instead of spending $20 on the latest piece of crap.
>... and still they are gonna go without any real proof that the LHC won't kill us, and > turn it on.
Just as I have no proof that folding up my eyeglasses and stuffing them into a paper-towel tube won't create planet-eating stranglets. After all, it's never been done before and the physics that predicts the result is just theory....Well, I did it. Are we still here?
> More chillingly, if eBay had launched the scheme in America would they have got away > with it?
Probably, because while people like you would have whined and moaned about the evil of it all you would have kept right on doing business with them. You recite high-sounding phrases about your rights, but you value convenience more.
Try to get a grip. There are lots of other ways to buy and sell things. If Ebay management wants to act like a pack of fools it's between them and their shareholders. They need customers more than the customers need them.
> The stated purpose by Viacom is to get numbers for how often infringing videos were > viewed, and compare that to how often non-infringing videos were viewed.
That could be handled by having Google give the data to an outside contractor who would extract those numbers, give them to Viacom's lawyers, and destroy the data. The contractor would be bound to secrecy by the court order. Protective orders that require that only outside experts see the protected material are not uncommon.
It is also not impossible that Google will back down and agree to extract those statistics themselves after all.
The stuff will only be seen by Viacom's lawyers and experts who, at $500/hour, can stand it. Besides, Goatse might be a refreshing change after a few hours of cute kitties and dancing three-year-olds.
> They should ask him to limit access to the data to outside experts sworn to secrecy.
MacDork writes: > Why would we want that??? If Google's getting pWn3D by Viacom, why should Viacom be the > only one to benefit from the data?
Viacom would be forbidden to see the data. Only outside experts hired by their lawyers and required by the court to keep it secret would be allowed to see it.
That would be a very bad idea. The proper way to "voice your displeasure" is to file a motion with the court (assuming that your records are among those to be turned over and therefor you have standing).
The users need to intervene as a class and request a protective order. They probably can't get the subpoena quashed but they probably can get the judge to limit what Viacom can do with the data and who can see it. They should ask him to limit access to the data to outside experts sworn to secrecy.
> The only way to successfully incorporate aluminum in an electrical system is to make > EVERY piece of the system aluminum or to weld/solder all bi-metal connections so the > expansion differential cannot cause a gap.
all that is necessary is fittings that form a gas-tight connection and have sufficient compliance to handle the thermal expansion. Hardware that meets those requirements (and is UL-approved for Al-Cu use) has been available since at least 1975. The US National Electric Code allows aluminum wiring. It is only local ordinances that forbid it. There are hundreds of thousands (perhaps millions) of homes in the US with aluminum interior wiring.
Electric utilities have been using aluminum wire for a hundred years and have used nothing else for at least fifty. I think they know a bit about what works and what doesn't.
We are not about to run out of anything. That isn't how mining works. Useful elements are found in deposits of varying quality and accessibility. Only those which it would be profitable to mine are counted as ore. As we exhaust the highest quality and most accessible ones the price of the material rises and it becomes profitible to mine lower quality deposits that did not qualify as ore at lower prices. Thus total reserves of an ore are not fixed but instead vary with price. Given high enough prices you can profitably recover any element from sea water.
Turns out the ideal vice presidential candidate for Sen. John McCain is the same person as the ideal vice presidential candidate for Sen. Barack Obama...
No. He's the ideal presidential candidate for either party.
That would be fine with me. I'd be happy to pay something like $10/month for the connection plus so much per gigabyte. Those who find it necessary to download several movies and refill their 'pods every day would not be pleased, however.
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> But the most relevant part was that they shot fireworks off the pier into the mar, sea,
> which exploded off of the water, something I doubt they would do in America...
Why do you say that?
Already happened. Remember depleted uranium?
Much, perhaps all, of the restoration work may not be covered by copyright in the US.
A major function of insanely long copyrights is to prevent material from entering the public domain soon enough to compete with newly-released stuff. If the Dr. No movie was in the public domain where it belongs you might download and watch it instead of spending $20 on the latest piece of crap.
Right. Even Einstein made a mistake once. He thought he was wrong, and he wasn't.
> ... and still they are gonna go without any real proof that the LHC won't kill us, and
> turn it on.
Just as I have no proof that folding up my eyeglasses and stuffing them into a paper-towel tube won't create planet-eating stranglets. After all, it's never been done before and the physics that predicts the result is just theory. ...Well, I did it. Are we still here?
Being out of touch with today's society is one of the most important functions of the Senate.
> More chillingly, if eBay had launched the scheme in America would they have got away
> with it?
Probably, because while people like you would have whined and moaned about the evil of it all you would have kept right on doing business with them. You recite high-sounding phrases about your rights, but you value convenience more.
Try to get a grip. There are lots of other ways to buy and sell things. If Ebay management wants to act like a pack of fools it's between them and their shareholders. They need customers more than the customers need them.
> The stated purpose by Viacom is to get numbers for how often infringing videos were
> viewed, and compare that to how often non-infringing videos were viewed.
That could be handled by having Google give the data to an outside contractor who would extract those numbers, give them to Viacom's lawyers, and destroy the data. The contractor would be bound to secrecy by the court order. Protective orders that require that only outside experts see the protected material are not uncommon.
It is also not impossible that Google will back down and agree to extract those statistics themselves after all.
The stuff will only be seen by Viacom's lawyers and experts who, at $500/hour, can stand it. Besides, Goatse might be a refreshing change after a few hours of cute kitties and dancing three-year-olds.
I wrote:
> They should ask him to limit access to the data to outside experts sworn to secrecy.
MacDork writes:
> Why would we want that??? If Google's getting pWn3D by Viacom, why should Viacom be the
> only one to benefit from the data?
Viacom would be forbidden to see the data. Only outside experts hired by their lawyers and required by the court to keep it secret would be allowed to see it.
> If however, the data is public record...
That is not going to happen.
That would be a very bad idea. The proper way to "voice your displeasure" is to file a motion with the court (assuming that your records are among those to be turned over and therefor you have standing).
It was good enough for your grandfather and it's good enough for you.
The users need to intervene as a class and request a protective order. They probably can't get the subpoena quashed but they probably can get the judge to limit what Viacom can do with the data and who can see it. They should ask him to limit access to the data to outside experts sworn to secrecy.
> The only way to successfully incorporate aluminum in an electrical system is to make
> EVERY piece of the system aluminum or to weld/solder all bi-metal connections so the
> expansion differential cannot cause a gap.
all that is necessary is fittings that form a gas-tight connection and have sufficient compliance to handle the thermal expansion. Hardware that meets those requirements (and is UL-approved for Al-Cu use) has been available since at least 1975. The US National Electric Code allows aluminum wiring. It is only local ordinances that forbid it. There are hundreds of thousands (perhaps millions) of homes in the US with aluminum interior wiring.
Electric utilities have been using aluminum wire for a hundred years and have used nothing else for at least fifty. I think they know a bit about what works and what doesn't.
We are not about to run out of anything. That isn't how mining works. Useful elements are found in deposits of varying quality and accessibility. Only those which it would be profitable to mine are counted as ore. As we exhaust the highest quality and most accessible ones the price of the material rises and it becomes profitible to mine lower quality deposits that did not qualify as ore at lower prices. Thus total reserves of an ore are not fixed but instead vary with price. Given high enough prices you can profitably recover any element from sea water.
There is this stuff called aluminum. You may have heard of it.
> Your glasses + HUD idea would be awesome.
So would the "marketing opportunities".
Do you have a patent? No patent, no money. You've _got_ to have "IP".
> You can't do that with anything else.
Thank ghod. Would that you couldn't do it at all.
Lack of indexing may have been one of the only things holding back the total Flashification of the Web.
...several sales associates left Walmart for Target.
No. He's the ideal presidential candidate for either party.
That would be fine with me. I'd be happy to pay something like $10/month for the connection plus so much per gigabyte. Those who find it necessary to download several movies and refill their 'pods every day would not be pleased, however.
> ...this company...
What company?