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Geomicroblogging, Buzzword or Reality?
An anonymous reader writes "The iPhone 3G and Android devices are coming this year, opening the mobile world for rich applications, while sites like Fire Eagle and byNotes are ready to move your blogging habits into the geospatial world. Are we going to watch the next boom when those devices and geospatially enabled sites get combined? Sure, the posibilities this would open are endless, but are users going to embrace these services?" I don't see how it can't change the world ... it has 'Micro' and 'Blog' in the name, and I'll always know where I was when I twittered to tell everyone I was in the john.
"geoonlinemicroshitting" - look ! we have another a new one ... "socialmicrobuttwaggling" whoops !! theres another one .... "cyberonlinepantsironing" - i guess there is no endin sight to this ....
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Buzzword, q.e.d.
/.'ers who seem to champion privacy rights and issues, but whats the point of fighting for these rights if we are just going to turn around and voluntary post descriptions of our activities, locations of these activities, and photographic evidence with it? Sort of flys in the face of that mentality. Not to say that those who support our privacy rights are doing it, but it certainly undermines the fight...
But seriously, I appreciate the majority of
...and it should be known by now
If anyone ever uses the word 'Geomicroblogging' with me in conversation I might just break several of their bones. When will the madness stop?
Nobody gives a rats ass about where you are when you tell the world what you are doing...Unless it's hilariously unintentional.
"JUST BANGED A HAWT GURL BEHIND THE CLUB!!!!!"
Location: Mom's basement
"As God is my witness, I thought turkeys could fly." A. Carlson
Sounds like a Twitter Shitter to me.
Prediction: The real iPhone killer is going to be sex robots from Japan. Think about it.
I'll always know where I was when I twittered to tell everyone I was in the john. Hopefully in the john. Man twitter is so incredibly useful.
it has 'Micro' and 'Blog' in the name, and I'll always know where I was when I twittered to tell everyone I was in the john.
So... when you say John, do you mean "toilet", or "the client of a prostitute"?
English, motherfucker. Do you speak it?
Already have GPSs on board, already have mapping on board, already have photo and video, already have a "lifeblog" on board to sync the phone info up with your favourite blog.
What I'm saying is, it's been done already, you guys are so 2005.
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Seriously -- there's nothing unique to or new in the iPhone 2.0 or Google's Android platform that you need to enable geo-based twittering, photo-ing, etc.
Loopt's been out a while and just enabled a bunch more users now that Verizon Wireless blessed it for many of their phones.
I have the next new big product in blogging... its called "aLife". aLife is currently not available where you are sitting now, but for the low price of $1,000 you can order yours today! aLife includes adventure, romance, excitement, and best of all it includes a lifetime guarantee! If you want a blog that everyone on the internet will read, simply get aLife and you might just find that you acutally have something interesting to write about!
I understand blogging, I don't do it because I think I'd rather live my life than write about it, but I get it.
I just don't understand why so many people are so excited about being able to blog in so many different ways... if it doesn't improve the quality or the value of the content what good does it do?
I don't know the figures, but I know that at least 99% of all blog traffic is to less than 5% of the blogs on the internet, and I know why that is... CONTENT! Give these bloggers a tool to create better content!
Sometimes the best solution is to stop wasting time looking for an easy solution.
Wait for geoNANOblogging to come around.
Failed bloggers Twitter for an audience; failed Twitterers will try geomicroblogging or whatever its going to be called.
Harold
A good example is the word 'stupid'
Just off the top of my head I can think of quite a few synonyms
Idiot
Moron
Nitwit
Simpleton
Asinine
Fool
Jackass
Rum-dumb
Dense
Oaf
Thick
Unintelligent
Witless
Geomicroblogging
I have nothing compelling to say
Seriously. I want to look at an object and get information on it (hovering above the object in the font of my choice). I want to digg up or down and see comments to things like carnival rides, tourist attractions, and those nice ladies in the windows in Amsterdam.
I want to leave a comment on EVERYTHING and I want to see the comments others leave. GPS + glasses with HUD will change the world.
A slashdotter who didn't build his own computer is like a Jedi who didn't build his own lightsaber.
The type of people that invent/mashup these names on their blogs etc have a dream of one day standing in front of a crowd of people while being introduced as "the father/inventor/visionary of microcyberblugblurging".
Engineering is the art of compromise.
Call me when I can get GeoMicroBrewing, then I'll be interested. (That would be the ability to get a high quality microbrew from a PDA, wherever I am. I suspect I have a long wait.)
I am REALLY getting old, 'cause anytime I see a new buzzword or "catchy" website name my soul dies just a little bit.
Quick, somebody register these, I'm in a Web 2.0 website name generatin' mood:
whenugo.com
whereru.com
urwher.com
quahog.net (completely irrelevant, but so what it's Web 2.0 baby)
blogUrlog.com
tibxty.com (made that one by banging my face into the keyboard)
The k1ddi3z are lazy, abbreviate everything, and don't know what a Greek mu is, much less how to type one.
And it'll be pronounced "gooblogging"... not the most appealing tech term.
OpenMoko/Freerunner is being released this week with GPS as standard, and somehow you've managed to write the story about:
(1) a proprietary device with a history of being extremely hostile to developers
(2) a proprietary framework that doesn't even exist yet and is being developed in total secrecy
wtf?
I mean, why enjoy the peacefulness of nature or the majestic view when I could be tapping away on a fucking keyboard?
SJW: Someone who has run out of real oppression, and has to fake it.
There are other people who care nothing about this 'twitter-micro-geo-blogging' phenomenon who are looking forward to this technology. For starters, you install some crap on your kid's phone, and it lets you live-track where he is, and emails you every time that little SOB hits 90 in YOUR car...
Sin Fest variation of this.
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Has anybody ever considered that possibility that we will reach an over-saturation of information?
Sometimes its good NOT to know if a restaurant is good or not without visiting. People ARE individuals. We need to ability to make our own decisions about things.
Think about even the difference between my generation (i'm 21) and my parents. My parents had to go out and experience things first hand to get any sort of idea about them. I carry around a nokia 770 with wikipedia on it, and a net connection to wikihow. I can get on google local and read the comments to determine wether I want to go to a club or not. If something doesn't exist to me on google maps, it doesn't exist.
I know, i'm the guilty party here, but this wasn't a conscious decision. I did not come to the realization at some young[er] age that I could either embrace a technologically rich existence, or not.
Imagine what my children will experience, or their children, or their children all the way down. I rapidly see people losing their ability to think independently of their peers. Even the people who consider themselves intellectuals are virtually inable to come up with an original thought.
I completely blame this trend on the availability of information. Believe it or not, there IS such a thing as knowledge being TOO easy to get.
NewslilySocial News. No lolcats allowed.
I geonanoblog, which is easily a thousand times cooler.
Internet used to had that "another world" feeling, with few points of touch with the real, geographical one. Now you can blog, right here, right now, crossing the street, when no car is coming my w
...and I'll always know where I was when I twittered to tell everyone I was in the john.
Let me guess... you were in the john.
I wonder if the anonymous submitter works for Fire Eagle or byNotes, since there's no content to this story but saying how these sites are going to change the world.
What happens when a large number of people who are either directly or indirectly associated with you begin volunteering information that they don't know/think encroaches on your privacy, and may not actually encroach on your privacy, but when aggregated, gives a clear picture of activities that you'd like to avoid making public?
FAIL
Privacy has long not been a problem to the members of the Internet generation, who seem to thrive on making their lives public; besides, the idea of having impromptu message boards tied to location is actually pretty cool.
However, it seems it would be really hard to prevent spoofing. Unless all possible GPS chips are locked down by DRM, or the geoblogs locked to known non-hacked phone models---which is as likely to happen as hell freezing over---there will be all sorts of issues that already popped up elsewhere, like spam, trolls, griefers, etc.
Maybe the real value of the companies that come into this field will be solving these issues in some reasonable way, like Slashdot did with comment moderation.
Tsunami -- You can't bring a good wave down!
Isn't this more or less Jaiku? Except Jaiku has been in closed beta since forever, and has been more or less untouched since Google bought it.
What?
clicked the FireEagle link and IMMEDIATELY closed the tab upon reading "FireEagle is the secure and stylish way-"? (I literally got no further than that)
At least I gotta give 'em credit for being upfront and letting me know within a half dozen words that it's a bunch of crap.
Programmer: an ingenious device that converts caffeine into code.
Yes. Please, give all of the little yuppie children with no jobs the opportunity to tag physical objects. What could possibly be more horrifying than MySpace? Importing it into the real world.
Of course, I could then color code the map to search for OMG PONIES strings, and have a better chance avoiding encounters with the unfortunate benefactors of the death of Darwinism. Maybe it's not such a bad idea after all.
One thing that I know for sure: Abercrombie and Fitch? Ground zero for Apocalypse Dumb.
As difficult as it may be, just ignore the "microgeoblogging" buzzword and look at the big picture here:
Despite the antisocial tendencies of the majority of the Slashdot crowd, a good deal of people actually give a shit about others and what they are up to.
A personal example:
I don't get to see many of the people I used to hang around with in high school. It's a bit much to call or e-mail everyone each week. By the same token, a full scale blog is a bit much to maintain especially if your life is mundane in general.
Now consider the micro concept: Most Information only requires the basic W's. Who when where what.
[Jerry tomorrow downtown coffee.]
Now if I happen to be near downtown tomorrow I might be inclined to call him and try to meet him for coffee. Otherwise, I'll have something to talk to later. But calling him each day to say "are you having coffee" is a bit much, especially with so many other people for both myself and Jerry to interact with.
The micro concept allows us to make better use of the small windows of time me have, and automating the mundane aspects of "who", "when", and "where, allow more focus of the substantial aspects of "what" and 'how".
It's engineered serendipity, which is much more important as free time becomes more sparse and our friends become more spread out over the globe.
Shorter and immediate is better. Just look at the progression of remote communication:
mail->phone->email->text->sms->twitter.
Shorter, quicker, more people!
It deals with the trivialities and allows for more substance when we actually sit down to talk or communicate in person.
I understand how easy it is to just throw off the next buzzword you hear, but look beneath the hype and look at the actual revolutionary possibility.
Rather than a replacement to human interaction (which I'm rather fond of) it could augment it allowing us to have more meaningful face time with others.
>I'll always know where I was when I twittered to tell everyone I was in the john.
I, for one, don't give a shit.
Some mornings it's hardly worth chewing through the restraints to get out of bed.
Stuff Apple and Google hype into new posts much? Maybe the post would have more fairly started out by saying something like "With smartphones becoming more and more popular among cell phone users, the door is open for...".
The "door" has been open for a while. Phones with GPS have been around for years. Automobiles and boats have had GPS for longer. Auto-sensing positioning devices aren't here thanks to Apple or Google unreleased Android OS. So why the iPhone and Android hype? Yep, those companies are helping to make the technology more mainstream, but there's other companies doing the same out there.
Sure the iPhone will be popular, but come on. Nokia sells more phones in a week than the total number of iPhones sold to date. Yeah, not all Nokia phones are smart, but my point is to say that the iPhone isn't the end-all. There's other stuff out there. Blackberries, Palm OS, Simbian, and WinMo. And a good chunk of them have had GPS and 3G speeds quite a while longer than the iPhone 3G that's coming out next week.
So, what's going to happen when positioning devices are a bigger part of our everyday lives? The devices will be able to show us where we've traveled and how fast we traveled (either via the devices we carry on us or the devices attached to our transportation). Heck, I guess those devices will be able to show if we have cut someone off on the parkway or if we are a high risk driver in general or if we frequent night clubs, high end clothing stores, or strip clubs. I wonder if the (life and auto) insurance companies will ever tap into these networks.
-516
Maybe I'm just misunderstanding the point?
Those who fail to understand communication protocols, are doomed to repeat them over port 80.
Privacy is NOT the product of your life. It is not a natural right, like you being entitled to the fruits of your labor is. Privacy is something that you may have on your property, if it can be physically arranged.
But privacy is making demands on other people, "Don't look at me!" What gives you the right to determine what I can and can't experience? I mean, the light and sound waves coming off your body aren't yours. If those light and sound waves happen to enter my eyes and ears, they are MINE.
Now, if you and I have an agreement, "you don't look at me and I won't look at you" then that is fair, and that is what we generally have in society. But it is because we agreed to that, not from some inherent right of ownership of all sensory phenomenon.
This is what I hate about libertarians. All they have is the hammer of property, so every problem boils down to ownership. It is ridiculous.
- None can love freedom heartily, but good men; the rest love not freedom, but license. -- John Milton
So TFA talks about what Twitxr http://www.twitxr.com is doing already...
Nobody would call anything 'geomicroblogging' if they planned for it to be routinely used by millions of people. Can you imagine? "Hi, did you see my geomicroblog the other day? I posted some stuff about geomicroblogging. I'm sorry, the reception isn't very good on this cell phone - the address of restaurant we're going to is on my geomicroblog. No, I said geomicroblog. GEO MICRO BLOG! Oh never mind, it's Andy's Bar And Grill, which is the same number of syllables anyway."
If by some random chance this actually caught on, the word would immediately be shortened (see: "blog" from "web log" from "personal content management system").
I propose "gumble."
-Graham
I see you are a coffee-drinker. Please accept this coupon for 50 cents off your next coffee, good at the Harbucks at the corner of nth and xth street, which you walk by every day at 7:52am.
Seriously, did you know MySpace uses the crap people put on their profiles, to select the ads to show to those people? Every bit of seemingly-useless crap you spew, can be used somehow.
"Believe me!" -- Donald Trump
What are you doing, where are you now to assene so harsh a criticism to a brand new idea that didn't yet have time to prove itself ?
Mingling technologies to make the sum of them something more than their individual parts are worth is the ultimate goal of geekdom. Stop criticizing and embrace the new tech !
GPS AND blogging together could be the next big thing !
Remember, young man ! You must always remember your actual position before patronizing fellow netizens with such pontificating verbiage !
(Note | This Mail was posted with Iphone V4 GPS/WiMax Geomicroblogging tool, from coordinates 2.34784, 48.82003 - [Toilettes Publiques] 75 Paris 13 (84 Boulevard Kellermann) - FR - 00.03 AM)
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It takes 40+ muscles to frown, but only four to extend your arm and bitchslap the motherfucker
I do feel it would be interesting if my mobile phone was able to tell me what was going of interest next to me based on my location. Even who else of interest might be standing nearby. Not quite what they're talking about here, but to stand at an intersection and have information about the shops and interesting sites within a 2 block area sorted by distance would be pretty neat.
"It's the height of ridiculousness to say for those 9 lines you get hundreds of millions."
A way to find twitter idiots and flashmob them into non-existence. Excellent.
Sig this!
And yes, my language is harsh, but I don't suffer whiny losers like you very well, especially when they don't accept responsibility for their situation and claim impotence in changing it.
And yet, worded differently the same advice would have gotten +5, Insightful and influenced many more people.
My God, it's Full of Source!
OUTSIDE_IP=$(dig +short my.ip @outsideip.net)
either we'll have information about everyone anytime, anywhere or...
just the gov't will have that capability.
both cases are still great examples of information overload... What ever happen to computers "helping"?
I was lucky enough to hear this talk.
FireEagle is a service that allows decoupling location information consumers from location information providers. It handles metadata on how the this information was obtained as well as user rights.
It's not a blogging service. Actually, I don't think it will be of interest to a lot of end-users at all.
It's more of a service to application developers. It can be a very useful service if adopted widely. May be compare it to OpenID for location or something. It shouldn't be seen as another geo-blog thing.
What I do for a living: Build a GPS mobile game
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I just got home a few hours ago from Canada Day celebrations that were concluded with fireworks. I almost spazzed at a guy who was standing near me trying to capture the fireworks on his cell phone camera (of course it was too dark, and so he stood there bitching and complaining about how the camera wasn't capturing anything decent). People like him anger me, and unfortunately the percentage of the population being molded into that type of behaviour is rising.
I just don't understand people who have this insatiable desire/need to videotape everything. Life must be pretty fracking dull to think that video footage is more important than actively participating in events.
Technology may make some aspects of life more convenient, but I truly believe it does much more harm than good.
I wonder if technology will actually deliver now. It's pointless to use Twitter or Jaiku on the move if it takes 10 seconds or more just to determine your position. Might not sound much, but it has to be very fast to be usable and the situation right now with current iPhone is not working with positioning over wifi or cell towers. One solution would be to let you quickly scribble something, put the phone in your pocket and let it "update" your message automatically with location info once it's available.
I've long dreamed of an update utility that could translate geographical coordinates into automatic updates on Tiwtter, facebook etc.
eg "AC is at the Museum of Modern Art, in New York." or "AC is turning his phone off at Heathrow Airport" etc. If you're into letting people know where you are, and what you're doing, an automated system could be pretty cool.
It should be GeoNANOblogging! Keep with the times!
I am very sucseptible to "let's have another drink"
I don't see how it can't change the world ... it has 'Micro' and 'Blog' in the name, and I'll always know where I was when I twittered to tell everyone I was in the john.
http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2008/4/23/
"Without curiosity and knowledge, the mind is a vast void. Without the mind, curiosity and knowledge are nonexistent."
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"When information is power, privacy is freedom" - Jah-Wren Ryel
Having used a "GMB" site (brightkite.com) I can say the point is to discover your peers rather than simply squawk your location for no reason.