Just yesterday I tried to buy a soda at the mall, but there was a windows dialog on the screen and it was totally non-responsive. It wasn't worth an encounter with the mall-cops to try to unplug/replug it.
Never ask for permission, just ask for forgiveness.:)
Or tell them, "Oh, well, the plug looked like it was just about to fall out, so I pushed it back in..." Let them prove that's not the case.:)
And how well do you want us to believe you knew these 1000s of women?
Well enough to know that some number of them were assholes.
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I've been married for 20 years and still learn new things about my wife; I wouldn't say I know much about her, really, before we had been together for at least a couple of years.
What's your point? Would you have been unable to tell if she was an asshole before you'd known her for several years? No, you'd have figured that out sometime in between 5 minutes and a few days.
How do they groom all the thousands of people who work for them though, especially the people who truly love computer science? And why does it benefit them to wear these types of reality-blinders? This will inevitably drive a wedge between them and reality, causing them to lose clients by not understanding them.
1) I don't know, I'd just guess that Linux-folks wouldn't have much interest in working for the Borg.
2) I don't think it benefits them at all; I think it hurts them in both the long- and short-term.
3) I don't know. I don't really care, I just do my thing and cash my paychecks. I have zero ego-investment with them or any other company. It's just what I do to make some of the money I need to do some of the other stuff I do.:)
Facebook: "Look at me and how great my life is, and here are all my political positions and if you don't like them then FUCK OFF, you ASSHOLE. "
Twitter: "Look at my amazing lunch/dinner/bowel movement, I'm so clever, here's what you should think in 140 characters or less."
Instagram: "Look at all my shit, I have more than you, here's my cats/car/lunch/house/wife/kids whatever, I'm so AWESOME, just look at me me me meeeeeeee!"
Heck, there are some places where human empathy is actually a negative to the effective performance of the role: - governance - being a police officer (in some contexts) or soldier - hunting
What a load of utter crap. Police officers should definitely have empathy. Just what kind of a fucked up authoritarian-ruled world do you want to live it?
And yes, anyone exercising governance should have empathy with the people they're governing. You really have some fucked up notions of what makes the world go around.
Hunting? No reason not to have some empathy and try to avoid unnecessary suffering in the animals you kill. I'm fine with hunting, no problem (I've done a little hunting myself back in the day) but to make or allow an animal to suffer needlessly is just prick-shit behavior.
In closing, fuck you and your twisted asswipe ideas.
I'm genuinely curious why women's standards of behavior and empathy are the norm to which we ascribe? Why do they get to set the standard definition?
Excellent point....why is the prevailing notion that women hold the "high moral ground" always spoken as if it's the truth? It's horsecrap.
I've known lots of people in my life, and the male-to-female "asshole index" has always been pretty close to 50-50. The assholishness is expressed or manifested in different ways, but it's always seemed pretty evenly distributed to me.
Anita Sarkeesian and Brianna Wu and Zoe Quinn would never do something like that! (Unless it made them a shitload of money, which seems to be exactly the case.)
Most of this was sent to me by a 3rd party with a sharper gaze than I....if I didn't know better, I'd think Bruce's account had been hacked and is now being used by a clever troll. Sadly, that does not seem to be the case.
Here are a few things Bruce has said that people might find interesting:
Bruce Perens: I'll tell you another secret then. Open Source was a mistake. I am not a Freetard any longer.
I know that there's a good chance that some folks will not believe this was a quote from him, but it was. Others might suggest that it is taken out of context, but it isn't, and I'll cite it here:
This is the relevant link. (http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=8501517&cid=51150923)
And then there's this:
Bruce Perens: Yes, I would take your gun. I hope to do so someday.
And, again, a citation for those who would insist on evidence. (http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=8501517&cid=51147449)
Note: None of that is edited, taken out of context, or reworded. It's all easily verified by simply clicking the provided links and looking at what he's written. There are multiple comments that may be of interest.
Bruce, basically, has used the FOSS community as a springboard and now has decided to abandon them, claim he doesn't believe in them, and now uses the term as a derogatory phrase - "freetard" a pejorative.
In other words, he's basically pulled a great troll and is now in the process of abusing the people that he used to get the small measure of fame that he does have.
I've admired Bruce's commentary in the past, but it's hard for me to reconcile any of this recent stuff with the person I thought I knew.
Can we list all the other industries wherein women are treated badly?
Oil rig workers and miners are treated like shit and those industries are bursting at the seams with women. Oh, wait, no they're not.
Wait, what about sanitation workers? Nope, almost no women there. Linemen and sewer service workers? Hmmm, almost no women there either. Construction workers? Nope.
All those groups are treated like shit by both management and each other but you don't seem them quick-walking up the hall to HR for every little thing. Or every big thing, either.
I know- it must be the Patriarchy that's keeping women from becoming garbage collectors and sewer-crawlers, because we all know that most women would just love to have those jobs, right?
Men get treated just as badly, it's just that women are more prone to whine about it publicly.
Quoted for visibility.
Yes, this is true. Men DO get treated just as poorly but they're less prone to say anything lest they be labeled as "pussies" or "whiners" or "troublemakers" or "non-team players" or any one of a hundred put downs. And yes, many of the people throwing those put downs are women. I've known plenty of women who will remark that some guy "doesn't have the balls" to do this or that. But let me say, "Oh, she doesn't have the tits to do that" and I'd be lucky if I was still employed at the end of the day.
A lot women get away with virtual murder in the workplace because anything that's thrown their way is perceived as a terrible attack, and is escalated to HR faster than you can say "disciplinary hearing".
I've been looking around Azure recently, and it's absolutely full of linux.
Yes, they have Linux distros as some of the choices, but so what? They only do this because some of their clients insist on Linux. It's no different than going to a Toyota dealer and buying a Honda Accord off their trade-in lot. Sure, they'll sell it to you, but they'd rather sell you a Toyota and will do everything in their power to sell you one rather than an the Accord.
Trust me, I work with these people and they really, truly do not like Linux or anything about it. They'll make it available to you in order to make money through Azure (which isn't half bad, actually) but they'd much, much rather that you use one of their canned Windows images.
So, in short, you're wrong, and you should stop spreading this nonsense- it just makes you out to be an asshole.
It may lend some weight to my point that I am, in fact, male.
No, you're just an asshole spouting rubbish. I know lots and lots and lots of assholes who are female who say the same silly, mindless shit. So no, you're not saying stupid shit because you're male, it's because you're an asshole.
I know they are there. I have had some startlingly unpleasant interactions with a handful of them. I don't know enough about them yet. Probably someone else should handle that side of the problem.
I respect you and often find your comments or commentary insightful, but this seems to me to be kind of a cop-out. You don't know enough about women to judge their behavior as you would judge a man's? Seriously, Bruce?
Asshollery has a strong positive correlation to the Y chromosome and testosterone.
Sorry, as someone who knows/has known literally thousands of women in my lifetime, I call "bullshit".
You're actually claiming that the presence of a Y chromosome is a predictor for "assholishness"?
I doubt you could even define "assholishness" (or "asshollery" or whatever) to any degree of accuracy. One person's "assholishness" is another person's perfectly acceptable behavior, so that's a fail. It's like defining pornography, which ends up coming down to some subjective value judgement.
So, in short, you're wrong, and you should stop spreading this nonsense- it just makes you out to be an asshole.
"It’s unfortunately the case that software development in general and Open Source communities are frequented by males who have social development issues"
What about the women who have "social development issues" that draw them to the field, or do they get off with a wink and a nod?
Careful, man. Couple years ago I woke up naked in jail and they told me I had written a new init system. Apparently I was ranting about how it would overthrow the established order and then they shot me up with thorazine.
Damn, I hate it when that happens. (I mean the new init system, not the thorazine. Thorazine gets me all dreamy and placid and makes listening to the candidate debates much more bearable.)
No, not seriously. You missed the all-important "lol" at the end of my message. It was a joke, something you should try finding out about some time.
They are probably busy working on important things rather than worrying about whether every random doorknob and lightbulb in the world runs their OS.
Actually quite a bit of what goes on at MS is little more than inter-office dick-waving and writing reports about what they should be doing rather than actually doing it. Ask me how I know.
Oh, sure, the "official" stance is that Linux and MS are the "bestest friends evar!1!", but the company and the employees still hate Linux. They see it as a threat and they wish it would die. They are not Linux-friendly and they trash-talk it whenever the subject comes up. Ask me how I know.
Okay, I gotta say that's pretty impressive. Not that Linux will run a PlayStation 4, but that they could do what it takes to get it installed and running.
In a similar vein, I was on the Microsoft campus the other day. One of the instant bean-to-cup coffee machines wouldn't work, it was basically frozen solid with a non-responsive touchscreen. I unplugged it and plugged it back in. (I'm not kidding, that's what MS support would have suggested, right?)
Lo and behold, when it booted up I saw it was running Slax, a Linux variant often found in embedded systems.
I laughed- if only the MS employees knew that this subversive OS was the one making them their morning coffee (the lifeblood of every corporation) they'd probably be up in arms about it. lol
That's pretty much all our brains do- trying to find patterns in an overwhelming deluge of sensory information, hoping to find something meaningful that it can use in some way. Seriously, that's what our brains spend most of their time doing, day in and day out.
We're highly-tuned to find some patterns and not other. And we're also prone to "finding" patterns where there actually aren't any, like "seeing" faces in almost everything we look at (like in building facades, patterns in tree bark, seeing the Virgin Mary in rust stains, etc etc etc).
i hate java, and i hate the java on android even more. good thing there is an NDK.
I fiddled around with java and it was interesting, but I confess I didn't put enough time into it to get fluent.
I could see a lot of the upsides/benefits to it but I just got sidetracked by other stuff and lost interest. It didn't "grab" me the way some other languages did, but some of the java jockeys I know are pretty adept with it and won't use anything else.
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Just yesterday I tried to buy a soda at the mall, but there was a windows dialog on the screen and it was totally non-responsive. It wasn't worth an encounter with the mall-cops to try to unplug/replug it.
Never ask for permission, just ask for forgiveness. :)
Or tell them, "Oh, well, the plug looked like it was just about to fall out, so I pushed it back in..." Let them prove that's not the case. :)
And how well do you want us to believe you knew these 1000s of women?
Well enough to know that some number of them were assholes.
-
I've been married for 20 years and still learn new things about my wife; I wouldn't say I know much about her, really, before we had been together for at least a couple of years.
What's your point? Would you have been unable to tell if she was an asshole before you'd known her for several years? No, you'd have figured that out sometime in between 5 minutes and a few days.
How do they groom all the thousands of people who work for them though, especially the people who truly love computer science? And why does it benefit them to wear these types of reality-blinders? This will inevitably drive a wedge between them and reality, causing them to lose clients by not understanding them.
1) I don't know, I'd just guess that Linux-folks wouldn't have much interest in working for the Borg.
2) I don't think it benefits them at all; I think it hurts them in both the long- and short-term.
3) I don't know. I don't really care, I just do my thing and cash my paychecks. I have zero ego-investment with them or any other company. It's just what I do to make some of the money I need to do some of the other stuff I do. :)
Facebook: "Look at me and how great my life is, and here are all my political positions and if you don't like them then FUCK OFF, you ASSHOLE. "
Twitter: "Look at my amazing lunch/dinner/bowel movement, I'm so clever, here's what you should think in 140 characters or less."
Instagram: "Look at all my shit, I have more than you, here's my cats/car/lunch/house/wife/kids whatever, I'm so AWESOME, just look at me me me meeeeeeee!"
Heck, there are some places where human empathy is actually a negative to the effective performance of the role:
- governance
- being a police officer (in some contexts) or soldier
- hunting
What a load of utter crap. Police officers should definitely have empathy. Just what kind of a fucked up authoritarian-ruled world do you want to live it?
And yes, anyone exercising governance should have empathy with the people they're governing. You really have some fucked up notions of what makes the world go around.
Hunting? No reason not to have some empathy and try to avoid unnecessary suffering in the animals you kill. I'm fine with hunting, no problem (I've done a little hunting myself back in the day) but to make or allow an animal to suffer needlessly is just prick-shit behavior.
In closing, fuck you and your twisted asswipe ideas.
I'm genuinely curious why women's standards of behavior and empathy are the norm to which we ascribe? Why do they get to set the standard definition?
Excellent point....why is the prevailing notion that women hold the "high moral ground" always spoken as if it's the truth? It's horsecrap.
I've known lots of people in my life, and the male-to-female "asshole index" has always been pretty close to 50-50. The assholishness is expressed or manifested in different ways, but it's always seemed pretty evenly distributed to me.
You left out the ones milking it for money ... :-(
Anita Sarkeesian and Brianna Wu and Zoe Quinn would never do something like that! (Unless it made them a shitload of money, which seems to be exactly the case.)
Most of this was sent to me by a 3rd party with a sharper gaze than I....if I didn't know better, I'd think Bruce's account had been hacked and is now being used by a clever troll. Sadly, that does not seem to be the case.
Here are a few things Bruce has said that people might find interesting:
Bruce Perens: I'll tell you another secret then. Open Source was a mistake. I am not a Freetard any longer.
I know that there's a good chance that some folks will not believe this was a quote from him, but it was. Others might suggest that it is taken out of context, but it isn't, and I'll cite it here:
This is the relevant link. (http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=8501517&cid=51150923)
And then there's this:
Bruce Perens: Yes, I would take your gun. I hope to do so someday.
And, again, a citation for those who would insist on evidence. (http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=8501517&cid=51147449)
Note: None of that is edited, taken out of context, or reworded. It's all easily verified by simply clicking the provided links and looking at what he's written. There are multiple comments that may be of interest.
Bruce, basically, has used the FOSS community as a springboard and now has decided to abandon them, claim he doesn't believe in them, and now uses the term as a derogatory phrase - "freetard" a pejorative.
In other words, he's basically pulled a great troll and is now in the process of abusing the people that he used to get the small measure of fame that he does have.
I've admired Bruce's commentary in the past, but it's hard for me to reconcile any of this recent stuff with the person I thought I knew.
Can we list all the other industries wherein women are treated badly?
Oil rig workers and miners are treated like shit and those industries are bursting at the seams with women. Oh, wait, no they're not.
Wait, what about sanitation workers? Nope, almost no women there.
Linemen and sewer service workers? Hmmm, almost no women there either.
Construction workers? Nope.
All those groups are treated like shit by both management and each other but you don't seem them quick-walking up the hall to HR for every little thing. Or every big thing, either.
I know- it must be the Patriarchy that's keeping women from becoming garbage collectors and sewer-crawlers, because we all know that most women would just love to have those jobs, right?
Men get treated just as badly, it's just that women are more prone to whine about it publicly.
Quoted for visibility.
Yes, this is true. Men DO get treated just as poorly but they're less prone to say anything lest they be labeled as "pussies" or "whiners" or "troublemakers" or "non-team players" or any one of a hundred put downs. And yes, many of the people throwing those put downs are women. I've known plenty of women who will remark that some guy "doesn't have the balls" to do this or that. But let me say, "Oh, she doesn't have the tits to do that" and I'd be lucky if I was still employed at the end of the day.
A lot women get away with virtual murder in the workplace because anything that's thrown their way is perceived as a terrible attack, and is escalated to HR faster than you can say "disciplinary hearing".
How do you know ?
I've been looking around Azure recently, and it's absolutely full of linux.
Yes, they have Linux distros as some of the choices, but so what? They only do this because some of their clients insist on Linux. It's no different than going to a Toyota dealer and buying a Honda Accord off their trade-in lot. Sure, they'll sell it to you, but they'd rather sell you a Toyota and will do everything in their power to sell you one rather than an the Accord.
Trust me, I work with these people and they really, truly do not like Linux or anything about it. They'll make it available to you in order to make money through Azure (which isn't half bad, actually) but they'd much, much rather that you use one of their canned Windows images.
So, in short, you're wrong, and you should stop spreading this nonsense- it just makes you out to be an asshole.
It may lend some weight to my point that I am, in fact, male.
No, you're just an asshole spouting rubbish. I know lots and lots and lots of assholes who are female who say the same silly, mindless shit. So no, you're not saying stupid shit because you're male, it's because you're an asshole.
I know they are there. I have had some startlingly unpleasant interactions with a handful of them. I don't know enough about them yet. Probably someone else should handle that side of the problem.
I respect you and often find your comments or commentary insightful, but this seems to me to be kind of a cop-out. You don't know enough about women to judge their behavior as you would judge a man's? Seriously, Bruce?
Asshollery has a strong positive correlation to the Y chromosome and testosterone.
Sorry, as someone who knows/has known literally thousands of women in my lifetime, I call "bullshit".
You're actually claiming that the presence of a Y chromosome is a predictor for "assholishness"?
I doubt you could even define "assholishness" (or "asshollery" or whatever) to any degree of accuracy. One person's "assholishness" is another person's perfectly acceptable behavior, so that's a fail. It's like defining pornography, which ends up coming down to some subjective value judgement.
So, in short, you're wrong, and you should stop spreading this nonsense- it just makes you out to be an asshole.
"It’s unfortunately the case that software development in general and Open Source communities are frequented by males who have social development issues"
What about the women who have "social development issues" that draw them to the field, or do they get off with a wink and a nod?
I love ya, Bruce, but this is bullshit.
Careful, man. Couple years ago I woke up naked in jail and they told me I had written a new init system. Apparently I was ranting about how it would overthrow the established order and then they shot me up with thorazine.
Damn, I hate it when that happens. (I mean the new init system, not the thorazine. Thorazine gets me all dreamy and placid and makes listening to the candidate debates much more bearable.)
Seriously?
No, not seriously. You missed the all-important "lol" at the end of my message. It was a joke, something you should try finding out about some time.
They are probably busy working on important things rather than worrying about whether every random doorknob and lightbulb in the world runs their OS.
Actually quite a bit of what goes on at MS is little more than inter-office dick-waving and writing reports about what they should be doing rather than actually doing it. Ask me how I know.
Microsoft don't hate Linux anymore.
Actually, they do.
Oh, sure, the "official" stance is that Linux and MS are the "bestest friends evar!1!", but the company and the employees still hate Linux. They see it as a threat and they wish it would die. They are not Linux-friendly and they trash-talk it whenever the subject comes up. Ask me how I know.
A software? Did anybody write a software recently? I wrote three softwares last week.
That's nothing- I had two whole marijuanas once and ended up accidentally coding an accounts receivable app with a metrics dashboard.
Okay, I gotta say that's pretty impressive. Not that Linux will run a PlayStation 4, but that they could do what it takes to get it installed and running.
In a similar vein, I was on the Microsoft campus the other day. One of the instant bean-to-cup coffee machines wouldn't work, it was basically frozen solid with a non-responsive touchscreen. I unplugged it and plugged it back in. (I'm not kidding, that's what MS support would have suggested, right?)
Lo and behold, when it booted up I saw it was running Slax, a Linux variant often found in embedded systems.
I laughed- if only the MS employees knew that this subversive OS was the one making them their morning coffee (the lifeblood of every corporation) they'd probably be up in arms about it. lol
Schmuck- all your spamming here has ever done is make me determined that I'll never use any of your crap-ass software.
And if I ever saw anyone using it (or contemplating using it), I'd talk them out of it. After all, who wants to support a scumbag spammer like you?
That's pretty much all our brains do- trying to find patterns in an overwhelming deluge of sensory information, hoping to find something meaningful that it can use in some way. Seriously, that's what our brains spend most of their time doing, day in and day out.
We're highly-tuned to find some patterns and not other. And we're also prone to "finding" patterns where there actually aren't any, like "seeing" faces in almost everything we look at (like in building facades, patterns in tree bark, seeing the Virgin Mary in rust stains, etc etc etc).
TRANSLATION: "Someone is making money and it's not us!"
Yeah, yeah....I know, they own the rights, etc etc etc. What good are the rights if you don't do anything with them?
Why not let the dedicated fans have some fun? It's keeping the franchise alive, what's so horrible about that?
i hate java, and i hate the java on android even more. good thing there is an NDK.
I fiddled around with java and it was interesting, but I confess I didn't put enough time into it to get fluent.
I could see a lot of the upsides/benefits to it but I just got sidetracked by other stuff and lost interest. It didn't "grab" me the way some other languages did, but some of the java jockeys I know are pretty adept with it and won't use anything else.
Different strokes for different folks, I guess.
Oh my god, Microsoft just never stops innovating, do they?