riiiiight and since the Vatican is all in on climate change, I'm supposed to take solace that the SkyGod and Green Religion have joined forces? Really?
The pope may have finally realized that it's actually happening, but his followers? Not so much.
These scientists are wrong! Liars! They don't respect our religion!
That's basically it. If your personal magic sky-daddy says one thing 2,000 years ago and those tricky, unreliable scientists say something different, who ya gonna believe?
I mean, a book written by ignorant, desert-dwelling sheep herders 20 centuries ago couldn't possibly be wrong about anything, could it? Never mind that these people knew nothing of science, biology, astronomy, meteorology, oceanography, chemistry, zoology, botany, astrophysics, climatology, cosmology, hydrodynamics, hygienics, immunology, magnetics, neurology, oceanography, palaeontology, or geology, and never mind that most of them had never been more than about 10 miles from the place they'd been born in their entire lives, they just couldn't be wrong about complex scientific stuff, could they? OF COURSE NOT!
I think it is more like, the chances my wife or kid will die are lower in the free market over the long haul than in a hyper-regulated one.
If anyone really believes that, then why don't they move to a much less regulated place like Somalia or Namibia? Because they know that, in general, less regulation is probably worse for them, not better. And that's in both the long- and short-term.
Yes, hyper-regulation can be a problem, which is why I said in another post (in this thread) that "Regulation isn't a bad thing. Over-regulation is a bad thing."
Personally I'm not aware of too many areas in my life where hyper-regulation is a problem, except perhaps by the FDA, where it can (and sometimes does) prevent new drugs and treatments from being made available to the public in a timely manner.
It's not a good thing when one or two jackasses can fuck over the entire internet.
And yes, I know this wasn't the entire internet, but imagine this attack writ large, performed by multiple actors, possibly with state backing (or maybe just a lot of personal resources).
The internet is basically at the mercy of whoever feels malicious on any given day and who has the ability to push a few buttons.
So you are basically saying nothing ever happens because noone ever gives shit about anything.
No, and you must be borderline retarded to pull such a bullshit conclusion out of your ass like that. Here's what I said:
"...nobody can promise anyone that the "Invisible Hand of the Market" will do anything at all, period."
You know what that means? It means exactly what it says: "nobody can promise anyone that the 'Invisible Hand of the Market' will do anything at all." Now how fucking hard was that?
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How did you come to this blatantly false conclusion?
I didn't- it's cognitively-challenged numbnuts like you that can add 2 + 2 and get "potato".
That's why government regulations are important, whether it be applied to corps or individuals.
Exactly. Regulation isn't a bad thing. Over-regulation is a bad thing.
Frankly, I *like* regulation. I like clean water, safe appliances, food that won't make me sick, and medications that actually do what they're supposed to do. I like the EPA and the FDA. Are they perfect? Hell no, but they're a hell of a lot better than leaving it up to corporations to do what's right.
The real problem with the Libertarian ideal is that markets need accurate information in order to function properly. Accurate information is very hard to get in certain fields.
Like when a huge corporation decides to mount a PR campaign to cover up their misdeeds. Even when people have all the information they need to make a decision, they still act against their own best interests. For a classic example, look no further than the Catholic church and their record of molesting children. It's proven that they've been doing this literally for centuries, and yet the suckers still line up to fill the donation plates.
If you won't boycott them to save your own child, why would you bother to boycott Nestle or Monsanto or Volkswagen or Con Agra or Sony?
That's a rather retarded way of looking at things.
I agree; the Libertarian notion of how things work is indeed a retarded way of looking at things.
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The "Invisible Hand of the Market" is essentially the total sum of people giving a shit
And since most people won't give a shit for any number of reasons (lack of interest, lack of info, etc) then the "Invisible Hand of the Market" is a fantasy. It simply isn't a real thing.
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Nobody promised you that the "Invisible Hand of the Market" will do shit that YOU want to happen.
Exactly, and I thank you for making my point for me. And to take it a step further, nobody can promise anyone that the "Invisible Hand of the Market" will do anything at all, period. That's because it doesn't actually exist in the real world.
The problem with the Libertarian model is that the believers never think that they'll be the ones getting fucked. It'll never be YOUR wife or YOUR child who'll die from some untested medication or contaminated food or unsafe electrical appliance. It'll always be the other guy whose wife or kid dies, and then the Magical Invisible Hand Of The Market will punish that company and force them out of business, so they'll be safe. Yippee!
Seriously, that's the way Libertarians think: "Some other guy will get fucked and I'll find out in plenty of time to avoid whatever it is."
It's like the Alaska Jack advertising line: "We cheat the other guy and pass the savings on to you!"
So it won't be your wife or your kid who dies, no way. And if it IS your kid or your wife, well shucks, you can just take them to court and sue for damages. Because that will bring your child or wife back to life, right?
In the Libertarian fantasy world, all of these companies with poor security would be punished by the Invisible Hand of the Market. People would boycott them and they'd go out of business.
But we know for a fact that never actually happens, which is why people laugh at Libertarians and their childish, magical ideas about how the world works.
Same here...I stopped watching broadcast and cable TV more than a decade ago and I don't feel as though I've missed anything.
My son gave me one of his Netfix logins, but I don't use it much, maybe a few times a month. I spend more time searching for something to watch than I do actually watching whatever it is I found.
"You're Paying 40% More For TV Than You Were 5 Years Ago"
No, I'm paying exactly the same amount....zero. (And I've always found it to be a super bargain at that price.)
Between stuff like Putlocker, PirateBay, and Netflix, the notion of paying a fee for monthly cable TV service is not only quaint, it's downright hilarious.
"WhatsApp announced last month that it would stop begin sharing some of users' information"
English, motherfucker, DO YOU SPEAK IT?!?!
Look, I know manishs had a severe brain injury and can only edit submissions in Morse code by tapping his catheter against the toilet, but FFS is there NO ONE ELSE on staff who proofreads any of this stuff?
No, it's not. The vast, vast majority of people won't even see your "shitposting" or memes, and of those that do, virtually none will be swayed by them.
Do you really think that people change sides or form their political opinions because of memes or shitposts? If you do, get your head examined.
Okay, sure, but will these 'revolutionary' solar thingamabobs travel at supersonic speed in a never-to-be-built hyperloop? And can they double as a delicious desert topping or furniture polish? Cuz the suckers, errr, I mean "investors" lol are gonna have questions and you wanna get your story straight right off the bat.
Okay, I'm fine with giving people kiddie porn, atomic waste, and poisoned water, but giving people Windows phones? Doesn't that fall under the "cruel and unusual" clause or something??
riiiiight and since the Vatican is all in on climate change, I'm supposed to take solace that the SkyGod and Green Religion have joined forces? Really?
The pope may have finally realized that it's actually happening, but his followers? Not so much.
Climate Change is not a religious issue for those who "deny" it.
Yes, it often is.
https://www.google.com/#q=reli...
To say there's no religious component denying climate change to it is simply incorrect.
These scientists are wrong! Liars! They don't respect our religion!
That's basically it. If your personal magic sky-daddy says one thing 2,000 years ago and those tricky, unreliable scientists say something different, who ya gonna believe?
I mean, a book written by ignorant, desert-dwelling sheep herders 20 centuries ago couldn't possibly be wrong about anything, could it? Never mind that these people knew nothing of science, biology, astronomy, meteorology, oceanography, chemistry, zoology, botany, astrophysics, climatology, cosmology, hydrodynamics, hygienics, immunology, magnetics, neurology, oceanography, palaeontology, or geology, and never mind that most of them had never been more than about 10 miles from the place they'd been born in their entire lives, they just couldn't be wrong about complex scientific stuff, could they? OF COURSE NOT!
This is the retarded, short-video version of Google Glass.
Google Glass could only record for a few seconds as well.
I rest my case.
I think it is more like, the chances my wife or kid will die are lower in the free market over the long haul than in a hyper-regulated one.
If anyone really believes that, then why don't they move to a much less regulated place like Somalia or Namibia? Because they know that, in general, less regulation is probably worse for them, not better. And that's in both the long- and short-term.
Yes, hyper-regulation can be a problem, which is why I said in another post (in this thread) that "Regulation isn't a bad thing. Over-regulation is a bad thing."
Personally I'm not aware of too many areas in my life where hyper-regulation is a problem, except perhaps by the FDA, where it can (and sometimes does) prevent new drugs and treatments from being made available to the public in a timely manner.
This is the retarded, short-video version of Google Glass.
Google Glass users were branded as "glassholes" and fittingly so, in my humble opinion.
Also, 10 seconds seems way too short for almost any useful purpose except cranking out stupid Vine videos.
Yes they're all vulnerable, but you have to be nearby to exploit.
No, you don't, and that's the whole point. Someone 1,000 miles away can fiddle with your IoT gear, own it, or use it maliciously.
It's not a good thing when one or two jackasses can fuck over the entire internet.
And yes, I know this wasn't the entire internet, but imagine this attack writ large, performed by multiple actors, possibly with state backing (or maybe just a lot of personal resources).
The internet is basically at the mercy of whoever feels malicious on any given day and who has the ability to push a few buttons.
So you are basically saying nothing ever happens because noone ever gives shit about anything.
No, and you must be borderline retarded to pull such a bullshit conclusion out of your ass like that. Here's what I said:
"...nobody can promise anyone that the "Invisible Hand of the Market" will do anything at all, period."
You know what that means? It means exactly what it says: "nobody can promise anyone that the 'Invisible Hand of the Market' will do anything at all." Now how fucking hard was that?
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How did you come to this blatantly false conclusion?
I didn't- it's cognitively-challenged numbnuts like you that can add 2 + 2 and get "potato".
That's why government regulations are important, whether it be applied to corps or individuals.
Exactly. Regulation isn't a bad thing. Over-regulation is a bad thing.
Frankly, I *like* regulation. I like clean water, safe appliances, food that won't make me sick, and medications that actually do what they're supposed to do. I like the EPA and the FDA. Are they perfect? Hell no, but they're a hell of a lot better than leaving it up to corporations to do what's right.
The weakness of the whole Libertarian ideal is that it turns out there are a lot of legal ways for one person to totally screw over another.
Yes, and with corporations who can field armies of lawyers and PR campaigns, it's a million times worse than what one person can do.
The real problem with the Libertarian ideal is that markets need accurate information in order to function properly. Accurate information is very hard to get in certain fields.
Like when a huge corporation decides to mount a PR campaign to cover up their misdeeds. Even when people have all the information they need to make a decision, they still act against their own best interests. For a classic example, look no further than the Catholic church and their record of molesting children. It's proven that they've been doing this literally for centuries, and yet the suckers still line up to fill the donation plates.
If you won't boycott them to save your own child, why would you bother to boycott Nestle or Monsanto or Volkswagen or Con Agra or Sony?
That's a rather retarded way of looking at things.
I agree; the Libertarian notion of how things work is indeed a retarded way of looking at things.
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The "Invisible Hand of the Market" is essentially the total sum of people giving a shit
And since most people won't give a shit for any number of reasons (lack of interest, lack of info, etc) then the "Invisible Hand of the Market" is a fantasy. It simply isn't a real thing.
-
Nobody promised you that the "Invisible Hand of the Market" will do shit that YOU want to happen.
Exactly, and I thank you for making my point for me. And to take it a step further, nobody can promise anyone that the "Invisible Hand of the Market" will do anything at all, period. That's because it doesn't actually exist in the real world.
The problem with the Libertarian model is that the believers never think that they'll be the ones getting fucked. It'll never be YOUR wife or YOUR child who'll die from some untested medication or contaminated food or unsafe electrical appliance. It'll always be the other guy whose wife or kid dies, and then the Magical Invisible Hand Of The Market will punish that company and force them out of business, so they'll be safe. Yippee!
Seriously, that's the way Libertarians think: "Some other guy will get fucked and I'll find out in plenty of time to avoid whatever it is."
It's like the Alaska Jack advertising line: "We cheat the other guy and pass the savings on to you!"
So it won't be your wife or your kid who dies, no way. And if it IS your kid or your wife, well shucks, you can just take them to court and sue for damages. Because that will bring your child or wife back to life, right?
In the Libertarian fantasy world, all of these companies with poor security would be punished by the Invisible Hand of the Market. People would boycott them and they'd go out of business.
But we know for a fact that never actually happens, which is why people laugh at Libertarians and their childish, magical ideas about how the world works.
Same here...I stopped watching broadcast and cable TV more than a decade ago and I don't feel as though I've missed anything.
My son gave me one of his Netfix logins, but I don't use it much, maybe a few times a month. I spend more time searching for something to watch than I do actually watching whatever it is I found.
"You're Paying 40% More For TV Than You Were 5 Years Ago"
No, I'm paying exactly the same amount....zero. (And I've always found it to be a super bargain at that price.)
Between stuff like Putlocker, PirateBay, and Netflix, the notion of paying a fee for monthly cable TV service is not only quaint, it's downright hilarious.
"WhatsApp announced last month that it would stop begin sharing some of users' information"
English, motherfucker, DO YOU SPEAK IT?!?!
Look, I know manishs had a severe brain injury and can only edit submissions in Morse code by tapping his catheter against the toilet, but FFS is there NO ONE ELSE on staff who proofreads any of this stuff?
And we should care why, exactly?
Two niche gadget makers go after the same market, one wins, one fails...so what? Why are we supposed to care?
This kind of thing happens all the time, every day. What's the Earth-shaking news here?
""shitposting is powerful and meme magic is real"
No, it's not. The vast, vast majority of people won't even see your "shitposting" or memes, and of those that do, virtually none will be swayed by them.
Do you really think that people change sides or form their political opinions because of memes or shitposts? If you do, get your head examined.
Okay, sure, but will these 'revolutionary' solar thingamabobs travel at supersonic speed in a never-to-be-built hyperloop? And can they double as a delicious desert topping or furniture polish? Cuz the suckers, errr, I mean "investors" lol are gonna have questions and you wanna get your story straight right off the bat.
Makes you think doesn't it?
No, I'm an American, and in America no one can make you think. F-F-F-F-REEDOM!!
and now they are.
Your tongue-in-cheek idea is at least as good as any Yahoo's executives have put forward in the last 5 years.
Wait, wait- Yahoo executives have had ideas??
It's satire.
Brilliant trolling, you have loads of people frothing at the mouth right now, lol.
Okay, I'm fine with giving people kiddie porn, atomic waste, and poisoned water, but giving people Windows phones? Doesn't that fall under the "cruel and unusual" clause or something??