I wonder if the Linux Documentation Project will be getting together with or releasing (as DocBook, etc.) any of O'Reilly's free books.
(I believe that the LDP's efforts are not nearly inclusive enough -- there's a lot of quality documentation out there; why not bring it all under one roof?) <-- Anyone who sees a conspiracy here: the maintainer has final say over the control of a document, unless it's left unmaintained for several years, in which case an overhaul crew may be needed.
It's just that it would be nice if there was a huge, huge source for Linux documentation. The LDP is a good start, but it could be so much more...
Yep. The thing I really was blown away by, though, was how many characters they just decided to leave out in the movie! A faithful adaptation would have been seven hours long or something... *drool*
Well, I already had the old VHS version... but it would indeed have been sweet if the voices had been as over-the-top. It's really a **very** different movie with realistic voices.
I was holding my breath in the first scene in which the Colonel speaks. "Will he kick ass? Will he -- d'oh!"
Actually, I liked the mini-flashback the Colonel had while riding the elevator down into Akira's holding cell near the beginning. And when he sees the big "#28" ball.
"Not much to look at now. Hard to believe that it brought humanity right to the brink. A giant step backward in mankind's evolution -- I can't believe the politicians would dare tempt fate again!"
Whew, I butchered that. But there was some damned good dialogue. Much better than that P.O.S. The Spirits Within script. **shudder**...
I got it last night, and I have to say... the voices are a lot less cartoony than in the original dub. Takashi, Kiyoko and Masaru don't sound all funk and high-pitched, and they don't make those weird groaning-whimpering noises all the time.
I don't care if he was cheesy, I *liked* the old voice they had for the Colonel. I know, it's more realistic this way, but "Men, we're goint to the Olympics!" will forever be burned into my memory...
It's got both English and Japanese versions, and English subtitles.
The Japanese subtitles have more content in them... like Kaneda actually talking to Kei about that guy she shot in the face, instead of never mentioning it again.
Dmitry doesn't "own" the company that employs him, he works there. Would any of us want to be held accountable for our employer's behavior, however benign. While throwing Bill Gates in jail for Microsoft's behavior might seem reasonable, clearly throwing some low-level Microsoft programmer in jail for incompetent programming, or writing a piece of software used to illegally leverage Microsoft's monopoly, wouldn't be at all acceptable.
You're not familiar with the concept of `corporate person', are you? The `employer' (the corporation) is legally responsible for bupkis!
Where were the mentions of Dmitry's 3v1LL c0rporate pr0fits, hmm? (Elcomsoft is a **CORPORATION**, slashbot masses!)
The dirty little secret about Dmitry Sklyarov is indeed that he's *not* Jon Johannsen. Sure, the DMCA is a bad law. But it's patetically hypocritical for the slashbots to do this.
Katz: "Corporations BAAAD!"
Slashbots: "Corporations BAAAD!"
Katz: "Dmitry GOOOD!"
Slashbots: "Dmitry GOOOD!"
AC: "But Dmitry Sklyarov *is* corpora--"
Slashbots: "CORPORATIONS BAAAAD!!"
Sigh.
I'd be happy if we could just drop the overblown rhetoric about evil corporations running everything. Elcomsoft wasn't running very much of anything... Can we focus on the issue at hand here, and leave the anticorporate Starbucks smashing to the G8 groupies?
Copyright law's purpose is the protection of the content owner's wishes.
If the copyright owner releases under the GPL, good for him.
If the copyright owner decides to sell his work, copyright law punishes you if you would circumvent his wishes -- whether by selling the work or giving it away.
You may not see any harm in giving away coyrighted stuff, but you're in the minority. Abd you're certainly not within the law.
Come on; you wouldn't throw away your career in protest over Dmitry.
True, Alan's career hardly rests on USENIX. But then again, USENIX didn't exactly come crawling back to him, hmm?
It just seems like too much for an issue that was basically resolved in a week. You may enjoy cutting off your nose (professional association) to spite your face (unsavory characters trying to co-opt
And the `American' crack was a juvenile ad hominem attack. Wow, you must be a European to think that all Americans are stupid sellouts who only happen to live in the center of the techie world by some weird coincidence. I mean, we're all stupid, fat, pissy-American-lager swilling Survivor-watchers, right?
One other thing, computers supposedly are out-dated in what, 18, 24 months? That means that in 10 years, you will go through 5 to 7 cycles of computers going obsolete. How in the world could a 10 year development process be viable then?
Actually, it means that software that ran on the machines of ten years ago is very, very, very fast today (if it's still relevant.) Witness on-the-fly METAFONT font generation built into TeX. You used to have to plan ahead because it took a significant amount of time to generate them. No more. Not to mention that layout for an eight-hundred-page book takes about fifteen seconds...
See how fast everything would be if we didn't have such evil feature creep? GUIs *are* fast, if you can resist the urge to theme them and load them up with KDE/GNOME...
XML is a stripped-down version of SGML that has an "ooh, it has the letter X in it!" acronym. SGML was in the works for quite some time before it was widely used...
Exactly right. Does this guy actually think that grip or cdparanoia won't be stable for another five to eight years?
Maybe KDE or GNOME in general will take ten years to mature into a 'final' state. Maybe Apache too... but when I think 'software', I think 'XMMS' or 'konsole'. Little stuff.
Is this really a hard concept? I know your history teacher told you otherwise, but he was wrong and you would have seen so if you'd thought about it for a minute.
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I wonder if the Linux Documentation Project will be getting together with or releasing (as DocBook, etc.) any of O'Reilly's free books.
(I believe that the LDP's efforts are not nearly inclusive enough -- there's a lot of quality documentation out there; why not bring it all under one roof?) <-- Anyone who sees a conspiracy here: the maintainer has final say over the control of a document, unless it's left unmaintained for several years, in which case an overhaul crew may be needed.
It's just that it would be nice if there was a huge, huge source for Linux documentation. The LDP is a good start, but it could be so much more...
Eh, just a thought.
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Yep. The thing I really was blown away by, though, was how many characters they just decided to leave out in the movie! A faithful adaptation would have been seven hours long or something... *drool*
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Dude, the movie's **logo** (on the back of the tin, on Kaneda's jacket, on the books...) was a pill.
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Well, I already had the old VHS version... but it would indeed have been sweet if the voices had been as over-the-top. It's really a **very** different movie with realistic voices.
I was holding my breath in the first scene in which the Colonel speaks. "Will he kick ass? Will he -- d'oh!"
-grendel drago
Actually, I liked the mini-flashback the Colonel had while riding the elevator down into Akira's holding cell near the beginning. And when he sees the big "#28" ball.
"Not much to look at now. Hard to believe that it brought humanity right to the brink. A giant step backward in mankind's evolution -- I can't believe the politicians would dare tempt fate again!"
Whew, I butchered that. But there was some damned good dialogue. Much better than that P.O.S. The Spirits Within script. **shudder**...
-grendel drago
I got it last night, and I have to say... the voices are a lot less cartoony than in the original dub. Takashi, Kiyoko and Masaru don't sound all funk and high-pitched, and they don't make those weird groaning-whimpering noises all the time.
I don't care if he was cheesy, I *liked* the old voice they had for the Colonel. I know, it's more realistic this way, but "Men, we're goint to the Olympics!" will forever be burned into my memory...
-grendel drago
It's got both English and Japanese versions, and English subtitles.
The Japanese subtitles have more content in them... like Kaneda actually talking to Kei about that guy she shot in the face, instead of never mentioning it again.
-grendel drago
*You* would be responsible, silly-head. That's the point I was making.
`Bupkis' is a funny Yiddish word meaning `nothing'.
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Yeah, and DeCSS was written so that Linux users could watch DVDs, but the most common use I see are the DivX AVIs floating around the campus network.
That's a piss-poor excuse, and you know it.
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You'd be trolling if you weren't so right.
Where were the mentions of Dmitry's 3v1LL c0rporate pr0fits, hmm? (Elcomsoft is a **CORPORATION**, slashbot masses!)
The dirty little secret about Dmitry Sklyarov is indeed that he's *not* Jon Johannsen. Sure, the DMCA is a bad law. But it's patetically hypocritical for the slashbots to do this.
Katz: "Corporations BAAAD!"
Slashbots: "Corporations BAAAD!"
Katz: "Dmitry GOOOD!"
Slashbots: "Dmitry GOOOD!"
AC: "But Dmitry Sklyarov *is* corpora--"
Slashbots: "CORPORATIONS BAAAAD!!"
Sigh.
I'd be happy if we could just drop the overblown rhetoric about evil corporations running everything. Elcomsoft wasn't running very much of anything... Can we focus on the issue at hand here, and leave the anticorporate Starbucks smashing to the G8 groupies?
-grendel drago
Uh, no.
Copyright law's purpose is the protection of the content owner's wishes.
If the copyright owner releases under the GPL, good for him.
If the copyright owner decides to sell his work, copyright law punishes you if you would circumvent his wishes -- whether by selling the work or giving it away.
You may not see any harm in giving away coyrighted stuff, but you're in the minority. Abd you're certainly not within the law.
-grendel drago
Come on; you wouldn't throw away your career in protest over Dmitry.
True, Alan's career hardly rests on USENIX. But then again, USENIX didn't exactly come crawling back to him, hmm?
It just seems like too much for an issue that was basically resolved in a week. You may enjoy cutting off your nose (professional association) to spite your face (unsavory characters trying to co-opt
And the `American' crack was a juvenile ad hominem attack. Wow, you must be a European to think that all Americans are stupid sellouts who only happen to live in the center of the techie world by some weird coincidence. I mean, we're all stupid, fat, pissy-American-lager swilling Survivor-watchers, right?
Bitch.
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Does this mean that Alan Cox will come crawling back to USENIX? Maybe they'll beg for him... nah.
That's the trouble with grand, explosive gestures like that...
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You/we *won*! I think this means you stop poking Adobe in the eye.
Dmitri: "Look, piss-poor encryption!"
Adobe: "Raaa, woo, bluugh!"
Slashdot: "RAAA, WOO, BLUUGH!"
Adobe: *meep*
Taco: "RAAAAH!!! WOOO!!! BLUUUGH!!!"
Slashdot: "Uh, dude, it's over."
Taco: "RAAAAAHHH!!! --" [thump]
Uh, right.
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$130 for 3x256? Nah. Pricewatch had 512MB sticks for $40 apiece.
Now I feel silly that I dropped twice that on my half gig... sigh.
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Yeah, Doom and Quake run really smooth on my Athlon 750... not to mention how blazingly fast Snes9x and VirtualGB are.
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Actually, it means that software that ran on the machines of ten years ago is very, very, very fast today (if it's still relevant.) Witness on-the-fly METAFONT font generation built into TeX. You used to have to plan ahead because it took a significant amount of time to generate them. No more. Not to mention that layout for an eight-hundred-page book takes about fifteen seconds...
See how fast everything would be if we didn't have such evil feature creep? GUIs *are* fast, if you can resist the urge to theme them and load them up with KDE/GNOME...
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You mean the
<tag attribute="value">data</tag>
idea? Something like this is so basic you don't really think about where it came from...
-grendel drago
XML is a stripped-down version of SGML that has an "ooh, it has the letter X in it!" acronym. SGML was in the works for quite some time before it was widely used...
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You're trolling, right?
TeX is tau epsilon chi, a typesetting system developed by Donald Knuth in the 80s.
For more info... TeX Users Group.
Frankly, a five-minute idiot document produced in TeX will look fifteen times as professional as a five-minute idiot document produced in Word.
And TeX still has better line-breaking and hyphenation. Thppt.
And it's still used by every academic journal in the world. (Well, every one that deals in hard science, not the squishy stuff.)
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Exactly right. Does this guy actually think that grip or cdparanoia won't be stable for another five to eight years?
Maybe KDE or GNOME in general will take ten years to mature into a 'final' state. Maybe Apache too... but when I think 'software', I think 'XMMS' or 'konsole'. Little stuff.
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What about TeX? Started work in 1977, but the final version was written in 1982, and was mostly-bug-free by 1985. Last known bug found in 1995.
Err... I have no idea how you count that, but remember, it was (almost) all done by one man, who was also writing METAFONT at the same time.
True, Donald Knuth isn't your average developer, but -- see? It can be done.
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Same experience here.
Want to help out? Go to
http://www.linuxdoc.org/
and contribute. I do. Even if you have limited experience, they need people to do *everything*.
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Yes, yes, yes, but
it works by limiting the power of the government.
Is this really a hard concept? I know your history teacher told you otherwise, but he was wrong and you would have seen so if you'd thought about it for a minute.
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