I wonder if Spam has anything to do with throttleing the traffic on SMTP and NNTP traffic.
I use a third party NNTP provider, and would not be happy to have my paid for NNTP access throttled in that way {though I DO understand if spam prevention is part of the reason for the throttleing).
This also makes me wonder how long it would be before the commercial NNTP providers start advertising "Get around NNTP blocks, connect to us on ports 119, 2000-30000" {kind of like what AOL had to do to allow its IM clients to connect through firewalls and other network blocks}.
it will probably have the same limitations that things like the home control systems have (like the x10 firecrackers). The control singnal is limitied to within a master circuit breaker... (ie: within the same phase loop)... So unless your neighbors share the same electric meter, they should not be able to see your network traffic...
They should probably have some sort of password and encryption scheme much like 802.11 wireless has. This is to prevent the above mentioned problem, as well as having the ability to have "multiple" mini-lans in the same home... (kids network for internal fileshares vs. access to internet capable network)
I like redhat, but I too noticed that sometimes they add "features" the way that they think things should be done.
A few more issues: 1-Broken version of the ISC dhcp server is the one included with the distro for the longest time.
2- use of pump instead of dhclient
3- PCMCIA support not in standard locations
I really wish that they would include a step-by-step list of changes to the kernel that they make with patches / links to patches that they use so that an avereage user can "redo" a kernel on their own..
The main USB support is in the development kernels (2.3.x) and will be in 2.4.x. There is a patch to backport some of the drivers to 2.2.x; unfortunately in many cases it still means that the kernel will need to be recompiled...
http://www.linux-usb.org/ for more details
The backport (currently for 2.2.14) http://www.suse.cz/development/usb-backport/
concentrate on getting USB more stable for 2.4 get more USB drivers written
http://www.linux-usb.org/
Get the HOWTOs updated for 2.4 (advanced netfilter rules for example on how to have load balance two interfaces {cable / dsl} to use the bandwidth of both links as one when both are operational, and if one fails, the other takes over. Supposedly 2.4 should be able to do it....
but xfree 4.0.x + kernel 2.4.x WOULD make for a logical major version change... Unfortunately the logic in version numbering has long been basterdised....
"If you reached this web site via www.OpenSSH.ORG, please realize that OpenSSH.COM is the correct address, and that OpenSSH.ORG is owned by a domain squatter (Alex de Joode of Zedz.net) who allocated the domain after he saw us first use the name, and probably collects information about those who visit the page before forwarding it to here. Also, please do not mail to us at openssh.ORG, since he also receives that mail. We have repeatedly asked him to please give us the domain, since we feel that we (not he) created this free, new, and great thing for the world to use and we wish to avoid confusion. If you can, please mail him and ask him to reconsider. The members of our developer group have asked as nicely as possible, and it has not gotten us anywhere."
Hmm.. according to them, there was a security breach today...
Just posted to their web page (http://www.usb.org)...
"USB-IF Members Only Area Security Breach:
Dear USB-IF Members, Due to a security breach discovered on Tuesday, 29th February 2000, all USB-IF member passwords have been changed. Member representatives will receive an email with their new passwords by today afternoon. We apologize for any innconvenience this may have caused everyone. We are working on resolving the issues around this."
That is exactly how I was able to get Linux "in the door" at many locations.
The ability for linux to understand many of the legacy protocols is definitly a great plus. It is great for a small buisness that has a few machines and is in need of a cheap (as in $$$) solution to replace or to communicate with some piece of hardware that they can no longer find. NetBEUI, although being an old outdated protocol, is still in use..
For many small buisnesses, once they see that it can solve one problem.. the next question I usually get is in the line of "so... what else can this Linux thing do..."
I wonder if that is all what the "library" is... Just a link to a "built in" decoding key for their hardware so that software can be written for their hardware... [a key based on a licence they may have already had for the windows platform, or was purchaced for "unlimited" linux versions]...
For the freeDSL one, be careful.... The fine print on one says that they also get the right to switch your long distance to their service; and that if you disconnectt within than 3 (or was it 5) years, you owe them a disconnect fee that is over US$500.00 + a $125.00 DSL activation fee.......
Thats what the "dream" of a proxy cache hiarchy system was supposed to achieve.
as an example, nlanr's ircache project advocating the use of proxy cache servers all over to reduce the "load" on final servers,and reduce bandwidth requirements of border links. [any proxy cache software can be used, but they use squid
Yup.. I have personally witnessed this.. Rather than fix problems when the "white hat" informs them of the problems MONTHS before it is exploited, they ignore it...Then when it IS exploited, they point the finger/guns at the "white hat" that was dumb enough to inform them of the problem in the first place without getting a liability waiver...
The thing is... Your way would make it harder for sites that DO depend on ads for revenue. And what if your users wanted to see the page as designed... ads and all...
Personally I prefer to have squid "do its thing" normally, but use the Internet Junkbuster chained to a squid proxy. This way your users can select to have an ad-free proxy or a normal proxy.
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They will change their minds...
I always laugh at any place that makes such a bold statement as "we will never use Linux"...
In 1997 an administrator for a local.edu once told me that they would NEVER use linux on their network... (They were an NT and Novell shop)
They have now converted several of their servers to use Linux... (about time; even though hey were "enlightened" about it ~1996...)
so...
They will come around.. it may take a while... but sooner or later those disbelievers will realize that Linux is here to stay..... and can only get better..:-)
News admins have been complaining about the size of usenet in comp.binaries.news-server-comparison.
It seems that the big providers like supernews and usenetserver are struggling with 10-15 day retention. The have SEVERAL multiple terabyte disks to keep it at that level (which is pretty low)....
Well... Just being devils advocate here... but since we dont know their internal routing structure, it IS possible for these to be on different "networks"...
Of course, that depends on your definition of a "network"...
[personally for me, a separate network is a machine on a network with a different ASN. For most, a different network may be as simple as being on a different hub with a different port on a router]
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I wonder if Spam has anything to do with throttleing the traffic on SMTP and NNTP traffic.
I use a third party NNTP provider, and would not be happy to have my paid for NNTP access throttled in that way {though I DO understand if spam prevention is part of the reason for the throttleing).
This also makes me wonder how long it would be before the commercial NNTP providers start advertising "Get around NNTP blocks, connect to us on ports 119, 2000-30000" {kind of like what AOL had to do to allow its IM clients to connect through firewalls and other network blocks}.
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Although aluded to, but not directly mentioned, there is also a growing (and yes, I may be slightly biased here) LAN party scene happening all over.
http://www.lanparty.com/
or
http://www.bluesnews.com/cgi-bin/lanparties.pl
for a link to a local LAN party near you.
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it will probably have the same limitations that things like the home control systems have (like the x10 firecrackers). The control singnal is limitied to within a master circuit breaker... (ie: within the same phase loop)... So unless your neighbors share the same electric meter, they should not be able to see your network traffic...
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They should probably have some sort of password and encryption scheme much like 802.11 wireless has. This is to prevent the above mentioned problem, as well as having the ability to have "multiple" mini-lans in the same home... (kids network for internal fileshares vs. access to internet capable network)
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I like redhat, but I too noticed that sometimes they add "features" the way that they think things should be done.
A few more issues:
1-Broken version of the ISC dhcp server is the one included with the distro for the longest time.
2- use of pump instead of dhclient
3- PCMCIA support not in standard locations
I really wish that they would include a step-by-step list of changes to the kernel that they make with patches / links to patches that they use so that an avereage user can "redo" a kernel on their own..
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The main USB support is in the development kernels (2.3.x) and will be in 2.4.x. There is a patch to backport some of the drivers to 2.2.x; unfortunately in many cases it still means that the kernel will need to be recompiled...
http://www.linux-usb.org/ for more details
The backport (currently for 2.2.14)
http://www.suse.cz/development/usb-backport/
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concentrate on getting USB more stable for 2.4
get more USB drivers written
http://www.linux-usb.org/
Get the HOWTOs updated for 2.4 (advanced netfilter rules for example on how to have load balance two interfaces {cable / dsl} to use the bandwidth of both links as one when both are operational, and if one fails, the other takes over. Supposedly 2.4 should be able to do it....
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because ethernet addresses are neccessary for the protocol to work. cpu ids are NOT required for basic operation of the chip...
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Not to start another versioning discussion.. :-)
but xfree 4.0.x + kernel 2.4.x WOULD make for a logical major version change... Unfortunately the logic in version numbering has long been basterdised....
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Um..
from the http://www.openssh.com page:
"If you reached this web site via www.OpenSSH.ORG, please realize that OpenSSH.COM is the correct address, and that OpenSSH.ORG is owned by a domain squatter (Alex de Joode of Zedz.net) who allocated the domain after he saw us first use the name, and probably collects information about those who visit the page before forwarding it to here. Also, please do not mail to us at openssh.ORG, since he also receives that mail. We have repeatedly asked him to please give us the domain, since we feel that we (not he) created this free, new, and great thing for the world to use and we wish to avoid confusion. If you can, please mail him and ask him to reconsider. The members of our developer group have asked as nicely as possible, and it has not gotten us anywhere."
lets see... they are accusing him of being:
and thats what is being said publicly...
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Hmm.. according to them, there was a security breach today...
Just posted to their web page (http://www.usb.org)...
"USB-IF Members Only Area Security Breach:
Dear USB-IF Members,
Due to a security breach discovered on Tuesday, 29th February 2000, all USB-IF member passwords have been changed. Member representatives will receive an email with their new passwords by today afternoon. We apologize for any innconvenience this may have caused everyone. We are working on resolving the issues around this."
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Yes..
Lookup MARS NWE... (nwserv)
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That is exactly how I was able to get Linux "in the door" at many locations.
The ability for linux to understand many of the legacy protocols is definitly a great plus. It is great for a small buisness that has a few machines and is in need of a cheap (as in $$$) solution to replace or to communicate with some piece of hardware that they can no longer find. NetBEUI, although being an old outdated protocol, is still in use..
For many small buisnesses, once they see that it can solve one problem.. the next question I usually get is in the line of "so... what else can this Linux thing do..."
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Amarillo Linux Users Group
I wonder if that is all what the "library" is...
Just a link to a "built in" decoding key for their hardware so that software can be written for their hardware... [a key based on a licence they may have already had for the windows platform, or was purchaced for "unlimited" linux versions]...
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For the freeDSL one, be careful.... The fine print on one says that they also get the right to switch your long distance to their service; and that if you disconnectt within than 3 (or was it 5) years, you owe them a disconnect fee that is over US$500.00 + a $125.00 DSL activation fee.......
Amarillo Linux Users Group
Thats what the "dream" of a proxy cache hiarchy system was supposed to achieve.
as an example, nlanr's ircache project advocating the use of proxy cache servers all over to reduce the "load" on final servers,and reduce bandwidth requirements of border links. [any proxy cache software can be used, but they use squid
Amarillo Linux Users Group
Yup.. I have personally witnessed this.. Rather than fix problems when the "white hat" informs them of the problems MONTHS before it is exploited, they ignore it...Then when it IS exploited, they point the finger/guns at the "white hat" that was dumb enough to inform them of the problem in the first place without getting a liability waiver...
Amarillo Linux Users Group
The problem is in the academia that joined the "internet" at a late stage. Many only mention usenet as a "passe" item. A local .edu does just that...
(They also discourage IRC)
The thing is... Your way would make it harder for sites that DO depend on ads for revenue. And what if your users wanted to see the page as designed... ads and all...
Personally I prefer to have squid "do its thing" normally, but use the Internet Junkbuster chained to a squid proxy. This way your users can select to have an ad-free proxy or a normal proxy.
They will change their minds...
.edu once told me that they would NEVER use linux on their network... (They were an NT and Novell shop)
:-)
I always laugh at any place that makes such a bold statement as "we will never use Linux"...
In 1997 an administrator for a local
They have now converted several of their servers to use Linux... (about time; even though hey were "enlightened" about it ~1996...)
so...
They will come around.. it may take a while... but sooner or later those disbelievers will realize that Linux is here to stay..... and can only get better..
Here is one of the "better" usenet use and info graphs
http://newsfeed-east.remarq.com/feed-size/
and
http://www.newsadmin.com/spamreports.htm
hmm... one of the RARE beowulf comments that is actually on-topic...
News admins have been complaining about the size of usenet in comp.binaries.news-server-comparison.
It seems that the big providers like supernews and usenetserver are struggling with 10-15 day retention. The have SEVERAL multiple terabyte disks to keep it at that level (which is pretty low)....
Well... Just being devils advocate here... but since we dont know their internal routing structure, it IS possible for these to be on different "networks"...
Of course, that depends on your definition of a "network"...
[personally for me, a separate network is a machine on a network with a different ASN. For most, a different network may be as simple as being on a different hub with a different port on a router]
I would not be surprised if some .edu somewhere decides to have a class built around the code...
even something like "here is the quake1 source code, make it better"...