But couldn't Mozilla have been released as a stable standards compliant browser first, and then add all the Toys in afterwards?
It seems that all of this cruft; XUL, skinning, Sidebar novelties, etc. have caused Mozilla to be delayed time and time again.
IIRC, the original Mozilla plan was for a fast, stable, low-profile browser. But now it's running out of control as more and more crap's being added to it.
As the other postings here confirm, IE's gaining in marketshare every day. To Joe Surfer, there's no other competitor.
Strange to note the similarities between these XML-based behaviors and components that IE5.5 has, and the XUL stuff from Mozilla. Except Mozilla is apparently being "innovative", where IE's getting bashed as usual.
So Mozilla's Cross-Platform. But are Windows users REALLY going to want to switch from IE in order to see the latest XUL-based toys?
Roll on Konqueror. Some of us just want to browse the web, y'know? The authors of IE and Mozilla might want to remember that.
Just have a load of HTML pages with embedded video (or an animated.gif and BGSOUND), and slam in some links along the bottom for "Up", "Down", "Left", "Right", and "Action", along with a META Refresh that points to death.html after a few seconds.
It'll be slow as hell, but wonderfully cross platform. Bit like Mozilla, really.
Now all we need are more artists wanting to come out in support of free music. Mind you, Chuck D's been doing it for years.
As a musician myself, I'm smart enough to realise that the more people who listen to my band, the better. ( http://enchanted.sinisterweb.cjb.net/ ) It's the ultimate memetic virus!
If they're going to be releasing a binary player, then why not release the library files to allow enterprising coders to wrap their own applications around it?
The trouble with most computer DVD players is that their user interfaces are too clunky as they try to simulate remote control handsets and stuff. (And normally ignore key bindings so you've GOT to use the mouse to operate it.) Ideally, all I want is a simple window that I can manipulate to my own nefarious needs, such as coding up my own IR remote, etc.
The LAYER tags, as used in Netscape 4, aren't being supported in Mozilla at the moment. Don't know whether the Netscape-branded version (Mozilla != Netscape) will have extra code to handle them, but I doubt it.
Just downloaded it now. It's working a hell of a lot better than previous releases, so if you were put off by it a while back, give it another go!
Note to Win32 users: You must grab the install version, as there's a few library files that need to be bang up to date which the normal version can't fix.
Why _wouldn't_ they alter protest signs?
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Just take a look at the recent WTO protests. The news media already had a field day representing the protestors as maurauding barbarians, what with the protests being a threat to the broadcaster's owning companies and all.
Just imagine how easy it would be to replace placards reading "Fair rights for workers now!" with "Bomb the Whitehouse!" - Suddenly your peaceful protestors become slavering Unabombers. After all, the camera doesn't lie.
Everybody has an agenda. Trust nothing!
When has news been entertainment?
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"Ever since it was invented." - suddenly the fiction of 'Max Headroom' is becoming the reality. Looks like our '20 minutes' are up!
Sure, they claim the colours are from the Kim Stanley Robinson books. So why do the colours remind me of the martian eyes from 'War of the Worlds'? (The 1950's film, not the book/concept album/computer game)
they can't believe that people can live without TV 8-).
That's disturbingly true. A friend of mine who is a resolute TV hater got a 'visit' from the spooks a few years back. He was minding his own business reading a book (yeah, people still do that, don't ya know?) when he got a knock on the door. It turns out that the Detector Van had been patrolling the area and they were wondering why there weren't any RF signals (or whatever they use to detect) coming from his house.
When he told them he didn't have a TV, the response was: "But how do you enjoy life?"
How is this different from the likes of XML-RPC, or even Microsoft's SOAP? Wouldn't it make sense for everyone to focus on keeping their 'cool stuff over HTTP' application interfaces as compatible with each other as possible?
I tried looking at the site, but got scared after seeing "paradigm" on the first page...
Just because you've got Credit doesn't mean you should piss it away at the first pretty website with fancy animated.gifs you find. Isn't that the FIRST thing they tell you in Economics class, that credit != free money? It's yet another symptom of the "I can do what the hell I want, let someone else worry about the consequences!" culture that's the norm these days...
I may as well sue Slashdot for forcing me to pour hot grits down my pants!
It's not the fact that people will be 'attractive', 'healthy' and 'sociable' that worries me should genetic tinkering become the norm...
It's the fact that these words will totally lose their meaning. They are comparative terms, not qualitative.
If everyone is beautiful, what purpose is there in beauty?
Another worry is the fact that genetic diversity will be slowly bred out - leaving us with a potential attractive, healthy society which could be wiped out by something their immune systems were never designed to prevent.
All things considered, I'd sooner do my procreating in the old fashioned messy way!
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But couldn't Mozilla have been released as a stable standards compliant browser first, and then add all the Toys in afterwards?
It seems that all of this cruft; XUL, skinning, Sidebar novelties, etc. have caused Mozilla to be delayed time and time again.
IIRC, the original Mozilla plan was for a fast, stable, low-profile browser. But now it's running out of control as more and more crap's being added to it.
As the other postings here confirm, IE's gaining in marketshare every day. To Joe Surfer, there's no other competitor.
Sad, but true...
http://www.berlin-consortium.org/
Still unstable, but getting there!
Strange to note the similarities between these XML-based behaviors and components that IE5.5 has, and the XUL stuff from Mozilla. Except Mozilla is apparently being "innovative", where IE's getting bashed as usual.
So Mozilla's Cross-Platform. But are Windows users REALLY going to want to switch from IE in order to see the latest XUL-based toys?
Roll on Konqueror. Some of us just want to browse the web, y'know? The authors of IE and Mozilla might want to remember that.
Just have a load of HTML pages with embedded video (or an animated .gif and BGSOUND), and slam in some links along the bottom for "Up", "Down", "Left", "Right", and "Action", along with a META Refresh that points to death.html after a few seconds.
It'll be slow as hell, but wonderfully cross platform. Bit like Mozilla, really.
That way we can always know with pinpoint accuracy who REALLY farted!
Right, what Advertisement servers should I block before I go to read that article?
Now all we need are more artists wanting to come out in support of free music. Mind you, Chuck D's been doing it for years.
As a musician myself, I'm smart enough to realise that the more people who listen to my band, the better. ( http://enchanted.sinisterweb.cjb.net/ ) It's the ultimate memetic virus!
If they're going to be releasing a binary player, then why not release the library files to allow enterprising coders to wrap their own applications around it?
The trouble with most computer DVD players is that their user interfaces are too clunky as they try to simulate remote control handsets and stuff. (And normally ignore key bindings so you've GOT to use the mouse to operate it.) Ideally, all I want is a simple window that I can manipulate to my own nefarious needs, such as coding up my own IR remote, etc.
You know, something useful!
Does anyone have a pointer to the offending posting that started this?
It might be nice to, ooh, I don't know, get it on a T-shirt or something!
I thought I was the only one that had noticed that!!!!
Not quite. The Ghostbusters reference has been there from the start. Check out the following bit of XML code from a typical XUL file:
Nice...
Does this mean I need to get a Public Key for my pr0n?
Gives a whole new meaning to 'Secure Socket Layer'...
The LAYER tags, as used in Netscape 4, aren't being supported in Mozilla at the moment. Don't know whether the Netscape-branded version (Mozilla != Netscape) will have extra code to handle them, but I doubt it.
Just downloaded it now. It's working a hell of a lot better than previous releases, so if you were put off by it a while back, give it another go!
Note to Win32 users: You must grab the install version, as there's a few library files that need to be bang up to date which the normal version can't fix.
Are you SURE that Tarantino directing would be such a good idea?
Mind you, the thought of CmdrTaco in a Gimp mask is kinda appropriate...
How do you know they don't just reboot reality while you sleep, huh? HUH?!
There's no need. Reality has featured dynamically loaded modules in the kernel for quite a few revisions now!
Yup, technically Ballmer could axe Gates for his sloppy coding style.
That's why he stepped down, so he could spend more time secretly hacking away at the kernel and seeing how it's supposed to be done!
Expect to see comments from "b!llG - 31337 h@x0r" in the source any day now.
Kinda appropriate really...
Just take a look at the recent WTO protests. The news media already had a field day representing the protestors as maurauding barbarians, what with the protests being a threat to the broadcaster's owning companies and all.
Just imagine how easy it would be to replace placards reading "Fair rights for workers now!" with "Bomb the Whitehouse!" - Suddenly your peaceful protestors become slavering Unabombers. After all, the camera doesn't lie.
Everybody has an agenda. Trust nothing!
"Ever since it was invented." - suddenly the fiction of 'Max Headroom' is becoming the reality. Looks like our '20 minutes' are up!
Sure, they claim the colours are from the Kim Stanley Robinson books. So why do the colours remind me of the martian eyes from 'War of the Worlds'? (The 1950's film, not the book/concept album/computer game)
they can't believe that people can live without TV 8-).
That's disturbingly true. A friend of mine who is a resolute TV hater got a 'visit' from the spooks a few years back. He was minding his own business reading a book (yeah, people still do that, don't ya know?) when he got a knock on the door. It turns out that the Detector Van had been patrolling the area and they were wondering why there weren't any RF signals (or whatever they use to detect) coming from his house.
When he told them he didn't have a TV, the response was: "But how do you enjoy life?"
How is this different from the likes of XML-RPC, or even Microsoft's SOAP? Wouldn't it make sense for everyone to focus on keeping their 'cool stuff over HTTP' application interfaces as compatible with each other as possible?
I tried looking at the site, but got scared after seeing "paradigm" on the first page...
Just because you've got Credit doesn't mean you should piss it away at the first pretty website with fancy animated .gifs you find. Isn't that the FIRST thing they tell you in Economics class, that credit != free money? It's yet another symptom of the "I can do what the hell I want, let someone else worry about the consequences!" culture that's the norm these days...
I may as well sue Slashdot for forcing me to pour hot grits down my pants!
It's not the fact that people will be 'attractive', 'healthy' and 'sociable' that worries me should genetic tinkering become the norm...
It's the fact that these words will totally lose their meaning. They are comparative terms, not qualitative.
If everyone is beautiful, what purpose is there in beauty?
Another worry is the fact that genetic diversity will be slowly bred out - leaving us with a potential attractive, healthy society which could be wiped out by something their immune systems were never designed to prevent.
All things considered, I'd sooner do my procreating in the old fashioned messy way!