I am a Linux proselytizer and I have to call bullshit on you. Apple is very good about fixing updates that bork devices, and they support devices for a very long time (although it'd be nice if they were more clear about which ones are EOL...). And how exactly are they "deliberately protecting the communication of known terrorists" any more than anybody who uses the Internet?
Just curious, what do you think "sucks" in Ubuntu right now? Hopefully this won't be a complaint about the Amazon shopping lens (off by default in 16.04) or Unity (because at least seven other DEs are supported by Canonical).
I get my work done perfectly well with MATE, and so it's saved me hundreds of dollars and my private information that would've been sacrificed to Apple or Microsoft. Also, if the figure is right that 1% of desktop users are on Linux, does that not mean something like 70 million people are enjoying similar benefits to myself?
A lot of/.ers say "I won't buy a smart phone without a replaceable battery and SD card slot". Where, here you go: the LG G* series is the last flagship phones to have both of these features. Plus it has an easily unlockable bootloader, for those who enjoy flashing custom ROMs. However I would still at this point get the LG G3, as it's "good enough" and half the price. The G5 in particular is kind of a shite upgrade, with a smaller screen and worse battery life.
Linux on the desktop is almost perfect now, and certainly leagues ahead of Windows and macOS. Unfortunately, as long as Microsoft has the power to coerce OEMs, there will be very few good Linux pre-installed boxes for sale.
Your last sentence is key there. If people like making GUIs, what's the point of complaining? Why do you care? They're giving them away to the world for free to use in case anybody wants it. Perhaps the time could be better spent elsewhere, but it's still practically a service of charity.
This highlights the difference between FLOSS and proprietary systems. If you hate how mangled the GUI is in the newest version of macOS or Windows, you're screwed. But Linux and the BSDs have a lot of great options to one's preference.
There is also some talk of making Enlightenment and Cinnamon officially supported.
They need Cinnamon, end of story. They could have 100 different desktop environments, it doesn't matter if none are as good as Cinnamon. I just switched from Ubuntu to Mint (despite the security breach). Cinnamon is what a desktop environment on a PC should look like.
There is a not-officially-supported Ubuntu ISO which is preinstalled with Cinnamon: http://www.cubuntu.fr/
That's really only been an issue for Mir, and I think Canonical turned out to be right on that matter: they're now selling converged-desktop mobile devices with Mir, whereas Wayland is still alpha-quality. In the other cases: Canonical actually invented Bazaar before git became the norm, and they've since switched to git. They dropped Upstart in favor of systemd.
It would be nice if, in the summary, you told me what makes "Budgie" different from every other kind of Ubuntu.
Side note: Is it really a good idea to distinguish your Ubuntu flavor with an animal? I know it's not "Bodacious Budgie" or something along those lines, but it could be confusing nonetheless.
The Ubuntu flavors are differentiated by their name (Xfce: Xubuntu, KDE: Kubuntu, etc.), and the animal names designate the release number (16.04 will be "Xenial Xerus" for all of the flavors).
I see a lot of comments like "I would use Ubuntu but Unity sucks" or "I was an Ubuntu fan until Unity ruined it." If Budgie-Ubuntu becomes an official flavor, that will bring the number of officially supported DEs up to 7: MATE, KDE Plasma, Xfce (which is actually supported in two separate official flavors, Xubuntu and Ubuntu Studio), LXDE, GNOME 3, Unity, and Budgie. There is also some talk of making Enlightenment and Cinnamon officially supported. (See: http://www.ubuntu.com/download... )
For someone with a 6 digit UID you really are thick.
They didn't ask for 'encryption' (actually, the auto device lockout after 10 tries) to be weakened 'across the board for everybody'.
Try again.
No, they were asking that Apple be conscripted into making malware in order to bypass the encryption. The legal precedent thus would have weakened encryption for everybody.
It's not widely known, nor is it called spyware by anyone except anti-Microsoft parrots. Being a well known Linux zealot, do you even have the credibility to comment on this issue?
I am honored that you call me a "well known" Linux zealot, although I doubt that is accurate. However, my credibility is not an issue here, because I am not asking you to take my word that Microsoft services are spyware. The fact that Windows 10 spies on its users is well publicized, and also that Microsoft's endorsed cryptography solution BitLocker is almost useless because they retain a copy of your key.
It's fairly widely known at this point that Microsoft services are essentially spyware, so it shouldn't be at all controversial to say that using Skype is an implicit consent to sacrifice all privacy.
I concur with this completely. There's really nothing Windows offers anymore except PC gaming, which is going to quickly slip from their hands as Metal and Vulkan are developed. Everything else is done better by OS X and Linux on the desktop.
"The only thing keeping me on my functional, usable system is the fact that it does what I want it to. If the shitty unstable insecure OS also did what I wanted it to, I would drop my functional, usable system in a heartbeat and joyfully embrace the spyware, crashes, trojans, overheating, and broken drivers in a heartbeat."
The only reasons people use Windows is because (a) it's familiar to office drones, and (b) legacy Win x86 applications. The only reasons people DON'T use Linux desktop are basically the inverse of the above: (a) it's not familiar to the tech-retarded who have a psychological block to learning anything new, and (b) it won't run legacy enterprise cruft. So what Microsoft is proposing is that they use their shitty unstable insecure spyware base OS that will nevertheless (a) have the Windows desktop and (b) still run legacy enterprise cruft, and try to graft an actually usable OS on top of it by having Ubuntu's CLI utilities run on top of it. Perhaps a slight improvement, but I doubt it'll sway very many people from just using Linux.
So what the hell does "Ubuntu will primarily run on a foundation of native Windows libraries" mean? "Ubuntu" is an OS with the Linux kernel and pre-configured utilities, programs and drivers put on top of that, but TFS is indicating that "Ubuntu" in this case is not including a kernel, utilities, or drivers. Unless this is an extremely mangled, obscure, and moronic way of saying that Windows 10 will be including a Linux compatibility layer sponsored by Ubuntu.
For the curious, "IFTTT" is an Android app ("If This, Then That") which allows one to make scripts for chaining other app functions together. Of course, it's mostly for noobs because real men use BusyBox to make cron scripts with Android's API.
I see some people commenting "so I guess the iPhone wasn't secure after all." This is something of a misconception of how IT security works. The only way to permanently secure any computer is to destroy it. Modern systems are so complicated that, given enough competent hackers trying to pry their way in, somebody will eventually. That's why it's terribly important to apply security patches ASAP and move on from EOL'd products. The fact that the shooter died on 2 December and his phone was just unlocked in late March of the next year indicates that iPhone security is actually quite good, considering his phone didn't receive any updates for four months and just got cracked now. By contrast, Windows is so insecure that (generally speaking) one could hack any Windows device if it didn't get its updates on patch Tuesday.
It was a dumb comment for sure, but turning this into a matter of class warfare or social justice is orders of magnitude dumber.
What's dumb is ignoring class warfare as the elite drop bombs on your head, and decrying social justice when you're having injustice inflicted upon you every day.
But maybe you're more comfortable in the role of useful idiot. You wouldn't be the first.
Why exactly should I fight class war or social justice wars, to no benefit to myself but all the benefit to the wealthy politicians and other demagogues that profit off of it? Sounds like you're the useful idiot.
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I am a Linux proselytizer and I have to call bullshit on you. Apple is very good about fixing updates that bork devices, and they support devices for a very long time (although it'd be nice if they were more clear about which ones are EOL...). And how exactly are they "deliberately protecting the communication of known terrorists" any more than anybody who uses the Internet?
My current phone is a Nexus 5X and even I couldn't care less about these live cases.
Just curious, what do you think "sucks" in Ubuntu right now? Hopefully this won't be a complaint about the Amazon shopping lens (off by default in 16.04) or Unity (because at least seven other DEs are supported by Canonical).
I get my work done perfectly well with MATE, and so it's saved me hundreds of dollars and my private information that would've been sacrificed to Apple or Microsoft. Also, if the figure is right that 1% of desktop users are on Linux, does that not mean something like 70 million people are enjoying similar benefits to myself?
A lot of /.ers say "I won't buy a smart phone without a replaceable battery and SD card slot". Where, here you go: the LG G* series is the last flagship phones to have both of these features. Plus it has an easily unlockable bootloader, for those who enjoy flashing custom ROMs. However I would still at this point get the LG G3, as it's "good enough" and half the price. The G5 in particular is kind of a shite upgrade, with a smaller screen and worse battery life.
Linux on the desktop is almost perfect now, and certainly leagues ahead of Windows and macOS. Unfortunately, as long as Microsoft has the power to coerce OEMs, there will be very few good Linux pre-installed boxes for sale.
In the many years I have used Linux on the desktop, I have never once had to compile a driver.
Your last sentence is key there. If people like making GUIs, what's the point of complaining? Why do you care? They're giving them away to the world for free to use in case anybody wants it. Perhaps the time could be better spent elsewhere, but it's still practically a service of charity.
This highlights the difference between FLOSS and proprietary systems. If you hate how mangled the GUI is in the newest version of macOS or Windows, you're screwed. But Linux and the BSDs have a lot of great options to one's preference.
There is also some talk of making Enlightenment and Cinnamon officially supported.
They need Cinnamon, end of story. They could have 100 different desktop environments, it doesn't matter if none are as good as Cinnamon. I just switched from Ubuntu to Mint (despite the security breach). Cinnamon is what a desktop environment on a PC should look like.
There is a not-officially-supported Ubuntu ISO which is preinstalled with Cinnamon: http://www.cubuntu.fr/
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Use what you like, I'm just letting you know
> However, my credibility is not an issue here, because I am not asking you to take my word that Microsoft services are spyware
That was literally the exact thing you were asking people to do with your assertion.
Actually not, as you might have seen had you read the very next sentence in my post.
That's really only been an issue for Mir, and I think Canonical turned out to be right on that matter: they're now selling converged-desktop mobile devices with Mir, whereas Wayland is still alpha-quality. In the other cases: Canonical actually invented Bazaar before git became the norm, and they've since switched to git. They dropped Upstart in favor of systemd.
It would be nice if, in the summary, you told me what makes "Budgie" different from every other kind of Ubuntu. Side note: Is it really a good idea to distinguish your Ubuntu flavor with an animal? I know it's not "Bodacious Budgie" or something along those lines, but it could be confusing nonetheless.
Budgie is a DE, like Xfce and GNOME: https://solus-project.com/budg...
The Ubuntu flavors are differentiated by their name (Xfce: Xubuntu, KDE: Kubuntu, etc.), and the animal names designate the release number (16.04 will be "Xenial Xerus" for all of the flavors).
I see a lot of comments like "I would use Ubuntu but Unity sucks" or "I was an Ubuntu fan until Unity ruined it." If Budgie-Ubuntu becomes an official flavor, that will bring the number of officially supported DEs up to 7: MATE, KDE Plasma, Xfce (which is actually supported in two separate official flavors, Xubuntu and Ubuntu Studio), LXDE, GNOME 3, Unity, and Budgie. There is also some talk of making Enlightenment and Cinnamon officially supported. (See: http://www.ubuntu.com/download... )
My links were unfortunately deleted from my post above, but here:
http://arstechnica.com/informa...
https://bgr.com/2016/02/10/win...
http://www.forbes.com/sites/go...
https://theintercept.com/2015/...
For someone with a 6 digit UID you really are thick.
They didn't ask for 'encryption' (actually, the auto device lockout after 10 tries) to be weakened 'across the board for everybody'.
Try again.
No, they were asking that Apple be conscripted into making malware in order to bypass the encryption. The legal precedent thus would have weakened encryption for everybody.
It's not widely known, nor is it called spyware by anyone except anti-Microsoft parrots. Being a well known Linux zealot, do you even have the credibility to comment on this issue?
I am honored that you call me a "well known" Linux zealot, although I doubt that is accurate. However, my credibility is not an issue here, because I am not asking you to take my word that Microsoft services are spyware. The fact that Windows 10 spies on its users is well publicized, and also that Microsoft's endorsed cryptography solution BitLocker is almost useless because they retain a copy of your key.
It's fairly widely known at this point that Microsoft services are essentially spyware, so it shouldn't be at all controversial to say that using Skype is an implicit consent to sacrifice all privacy.
I concur with this completely. There's really nothing Windows offers anymore except PC gaming, which is going to quickly slip from their hands as Metal and Vulkan are developed. Everything else is done better by OS X and Linux on the desktop.
Yes, I have used Windows 10, and I have experienced my monitor and wifi being hosed by unstoppable (because I don't have "Enterprise" edition) automatic driver updates. Many of my friends have also experienced similar issues. Sounds like you're shilling for MS. "The Microsoft Surface Pro© is an amazing system with the best enterprise OS on the market!"
Your post amazes me.
"The only thing keeping me on my functional, usable system is the fact that it does what I want it to. If the shitty unstable insecure OS also did what I wanted it to, I would drop my functional, usable system in a heartbeat and joyfully embrace the spyware, crashes, trojans, overheating, and broken drivers in a heartbeat."
The only reasons people use Windows is because (a) it's familiar to office drones, and (b) legacy Win x86 applications. The only reasons people DON'T use Linux desktop are basically the inverse of the above: (a) it's not familiar to the tech-retarded who have a psychological block to learning anything new, and (b) it won't run legacy enterprise cruft. So what Microsoft is proposing is that they use their shitty unstable insecure spyware base OS that will nevertheless (a) have the Windows desktop and (b) still run legacy enterprise cruft, and try to graft an actually usable OS on top of it by having Ubuntu's CLI utilities run on top of it. Perhaps a slight improvement, but I doubt it'll sway very many people from just using Linux.
So what the hell does "Ubuntu will primarily run on a foundation of native Windows libraries" mean? "Ubuntu" is an OS with the Linux kernel and pre-configured utilities, programs and drivers put on top of that, but TFS is indicating that "Ubuntu" in this case is not including a kernel, utilities, or drivers. Unless this is an extremely mangled, obscure, and moronic way of saying that Windows 10 will be including a Linux compatibility layer sponsored by Ubuntu.
For the curious, "IFTTT" is an Android app ("If This, Then That") which allows one to make scripts for chaining other app functions together. Of course, it's mostly for noobs because real men use BusyBox to make cron scripts with Android's API.
I see some people commenting "so I guess the iPhone wasn't secure after all." This is something of a misconception of how IT security works. The only way to permanently secure any computer is to destroy it. Modern systems are so complicated that, given enough competent hackers trying to pry their way in, somebody will eventually. That's why it's terribly important to apply security patches ASAP and move on from EOL'd products. The fact that the shooter died on 2 December and his phone was just unlocked in late March of the next year indicates that iPhone security is actually quite good, considering his phone didn't receive any updates for four months and just got cracked now. By contrast, Windows is so insecure that (generally speaking) one could hack any Windows device if it didn't get its updates on patch Tuesday.
What's dumb is ignoring class warfare as the elite drop bombs on your head, and decrying social justice when you're having injustice inflicted upon you every day.
But maybe you're more comfortable in the role of useful idiot. You wouldn't be the first.
Why exactly should I fight class war or social justice wars, to no benefit to myself but all the benefit to the wealthy politicians and other demagogues that profit off of it? Sounds like you're the useful idiot.