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Apple Deprecating Quicktime For Windows, Micro Trends Urges Users To Uninstall (trendmicro.com)
harryjohnston writes: Usually when a vendor deprecates a software product and stops releasing security updates, they provide some sort of advance notice that they're intending to do so. The least we would expect is for them to announce an unexpected end-of-life themselves. However, Trend Micro released a security advisory today describing two zero-day vulnerabilities for Quicktime for Windows, and according to them, Apple told Trend Micro -- but apparently nobody else -- that they have deprecated Quicktime for Windows and will not be releasing a patch. The Register has an article on the announcement. Apple did not respond to their request for comment.
Apple simply stopped updating Safari for Windows, no announcement or notice, just quietly stopped releasing updates.
Do you know the difference between "Trend Micro" and "Micro Trends"?
Neither does the submitter.
How do you manage to get the name of the company issuing the advisory wrong in the TITLE? You've got it right in the summary? Where did "Micro Trends" come from?
yes please uninstall the counterfiet malware version of our product that you are somehow running
n/t
Donald 'Duck' Dunn: We had a band powerful enough to turn goat piss into gasoline.
Not able to afford to fix some cross platform problem or unable to maintain it ?? Who really needs QT?
My camera / tablet and phone records Mpeg. This might be the "straw" the economy is waiting for a burst.
Hire some more windows people before it's too late dipple...
QuickTime does power a lot of professional video workload, perhaps Apple tried to say that they are dropping the browser plugin via removing it in an update which is seriously overdue. Apple wasted a great technology but whatever, days of plugins are long gone.
If there is no misunderstanding, that should be a final wakeup call to creative professionals.
If not QuickTime Windows, then what else to use to play Quicktime files??
Dumb article.
Apple Deprecating Quicktime For Windows, Micro Trends Urges Users To Uninstall
However, Trend Micro released a security advisory today describing two zero-day vulnerabilities for Quicktime for Windows
Is Slashdot now running on one of those "not always right" chips? Micro Trends, Trend Micro, close enough.
Fasttime for Windoes deprecated by Pear.
systemd is Roko's Basilisk.
If Linux backdoored my computer and uploaded all of my "known terrorist" files to the FBI, criminals certainly wouldn't use it, that's for sure. Nobody else would either.
Oh come on... Windows users have deprecated Quicktime ages ago!
bickerdyke
Haven't had that piece of junk on my computers for years! Anyone getting hacked through that shit, deserves it fully!
^this guys got some potent crack.
n/t
Quicktime was shit.
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Who the fuck was still using Quicktime in 2016?!?
Off with their heads!
Quicktime has been dying for years. In Safari 9 the Quicktime plugin is disabled and unless you really need it Apple recommends leaving it that way.
You can go into Safari plugins and enable it, but clearly I think Apple has totally washed its hands of it. The reason no body knows this, is that hardly any one but
Apple and a few developers ever used Quicktime in the first place.
If Apple really have deprecated Quicktime then it would be nice if, in their next iTunes update, they remove the nag screen that keeps popping up telling you to install Quicktime.
I ended up installing it to stop the damn thing appearing.
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Apple have an atrocious security record. I think they believe if they simply keep quiet each time there is an issue or just keep marking security updates as just regular updates that it will just fade away, for many of the apple faithful this approach sadly seems to work too. If you ask 99% of them they don't have a clue and think apple actually do security well.
Now I have to call you on your BS here, the phone Apple refused to unlock was a government issued phone, there was no need to force unlock it, it was not a secure phone to begin with (from a terrorist stand point). And lets ignore the fact that all of the other attacks used straight up sms, no encryption, no magic whatsapp and no bullet codes on walls inside call of duty. And the next BS I have to call you on is "Linux" Linux isn't a company, linux isn't even an Operation System. Linux is an ECOSYSTEM of operating systems. Comparing an open community to a closed company highlights your bias. Apple sucks, Microsoft sucks, and to an extent, blatant linux fan boys suck worse.
and is the reason that I'd vote 100% to disable AC posting, even though it's roughly 1% of the AC posts that are like this and the apps apper apeshit asshat
There's no reason for that.
This shit can be safely deleted. Nobody is going to cry if staff would delete off topic nonsense.
and is the reason that I'd vote 100% to disable AC posting, even though it's roughly 1% of the AC posts that are like this and the apps apper apeshit asshat
*sigh* People like you are why the PATRIOT Act passed.
This is luddite shit, the apps guy was much better
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What's the PTB?
It seems like people don't really use Quicktime any more. Thankfully, I haven't actually seen a mov file in literally years. Are they going to stop pushing their stupid proprietary video format on their own platform as well? It seems like not bothering with the Windows software can only be part of recognizing that no one uses it, and that it's dead. If your format isn't cross-platform, nobody should care about it...
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
According to Tevanian, Apple executive Peter Hoddie asked Microsoft officials, "'Are you asking us to kill playback? Are you asking us to knife the baby?'" He said Microsoft official Christopher Phillips responded, "'Yes, we want you to knife the baby.' It was very clear."
http://www.businessweek.com/mi...
So the baby has finally been knifed, some 18 years later.
While I don't use Quicktime anymore, this just reminds me to donate more to the products that I DO use and rely on, like VLC.
I am a Linux proselytizer and I have to call bullshit on you. Apple is very good about fixing updates that bork devices, and they support devices for a very long time (although it'd be nice if they were more clear about which ones are EOL...). And how exactly are they "deliberately protecting the communication of known terrorists" any more than anybody who uses the Internet?
Now I have to call bullshit on you. The FBI didn't want Apple to unlock it, they wanted them to assist in getting around the security runtime so they could attempt to break the encryption without reverse engineering the methods. A reasonable request. As we know, they were forced to go the reverse engineering route because Apple decided to run a PR campaign with the case If you want to be pedantic to discredit an argument, calling Linux"an ecosystem of operating systems"is a poor way to do it. Linux is a kernel. A kernel commonly used with a core of gnu programs to produce an operating system typically referred to as gnu/Linux. Different flavors of these programs are called distributions, and when talking about gnu/Linux it is very common to just say "Linux".
If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Its examples like this that show why Apple isn't an enterprise player. They have no roadmaps. They act on a whim and don't inform their customers. It's impossible to prepare an environment when you don't know what changes are coming.
good riddance.
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Vintage computer games and RPG books available. Email me if you're interested.
If you want to allow Unity Editor to import video formats it doesn't directly support (it only seems to support OGG) you need QuickTime installed. I just installed it less than a month ago on my work PC.
I stopped using Quicktime long ago and switched to FFmpeg. I haven't looked back.
So you're dropping Android based on the same criteria? I didn't think so. You're just another bitchtard faggot.
The both of them engaged in play acting. The FBI wanted to oblige Apple to respond to thousands (or tens of thousands) of FISA requests a year. Also, Apple was happy to have a PR image of being secure while the FBI was happy if dumb criminals thought the iPhones were safe to store incriminating information on.
Nitpick:
Linux is just a kernel, nothing more - and certainly not this nebulous ecosystem thingy you describe. Yes, just a kernel - and not even a whole OS, let alone a group of them. It's up to the distro makers (e.g. RedHat, Novell/SuSE, Debian, etc) to take that kernel and make a whole operating system around it.
Quo usque tandem abutere, Nimbus, patientia nostra?
pedantically referred to as gnu/Linux
FTFY. Typically, it's referred to as Linux.
Don't you know how to Google? It's the Physikalisch-Technische Bundesanstalt. I don't know what this has to do with metrology, though.
... and Apple has depreciated QT for the Mac years ago. Some of the previous functionality of earlier versions of QT is in the latest release.
The both of them engaged in play acting. The FBI wanted to oblige Apple to respond to thousands (or tens of thousands) of FISA requests a year. Also, Apple was happy to have a PR image of being secure while the FBI was happy if dumb criminals thought the iPhones were safe to store incriminating information on.
Citation, please, or STFU.
I am a Linux proselytizer and I have to call bullshit on you. Apple is very good about fixing updates that bork devices, and they support devices for a very long time (although it'd be nice if they were more clear about which ones are EOL...). And how exactly are they "deliberately protecting the communication of known terrorists" any more than anybody who uses the Internet?
Someone please mod this up!
No, the FBI did not have a reasonable request. Reasonable would have been to ask for help with that particular phone. What they asked for, and got an order for, was for Apple to develop software that could unlock ALL iPhones of that type. That is so far away from 'reasonable' I can only conclude you work for the FBI, are a troll, or a paid shill.
I am a Linux proselytizer and I have to call bullshit on you. Apple is very good about fixing updates that bork devices, and they support devices for a very long time (although it'd be nice if they were more clear about which ones are EOL...).
Here you go
Now I have to call bullshit on you.
Careful, now.
The FBI didn't want Apple to unlock it, they wanted them to assist in getting around the security runtime so they could attempt to break the encryption without reverse engineering the methods.
Uh-huh.
A reasonable request.
Not in this universe, no.
I thought that iTunes for Windows depends on QuickTime for Windows? So, does this mean iTunes does not use or will not be using QuickTime for displaying videos like movies and tv shows?
If you spit in a swamp, are you really obligated to put up a sign saying it might have germs?
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I'm kind of sick of these billion dollar software vendors dropping support for stuff at the drop of a hat. There are plenty of community driven options, and frequently packages like VLC have far better support for legacy formats than the new whizbang stuff from Apple or Microsoft.
(why would I need to play a legacy video format? probably because that's what I had available when I took videos of my childhood pets)
“Common sense is not so common.” — Voltaire
So does that mean Apple will be updating iTunes to not require Quicktime? Probably not, but I can dream.
I've been using /. almost daily since 1999, I have never and will never make an account here.
Who is writing has nothing to do with the content of what is being written.
Also, only LUDDITES need usernames, etc.
The judge ruled Tuesday that the Cupertino-based company had to provide "reasonable technical assistance" to the government in recovering data from the iPhone 5c, including bypassing the auto-erase function and allowing investigators to submit an unlimited number of passwords in their attempts to unlock the phone. Apple has five days to respond to the court if it believes that compliance would be "unreasonably burdensome."
Source: http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/san-bernardino-shooting/judge-forces-apple-help-unlock-san-bernardino-shooter-iphone-n519701
"Reasonable technical assistance" somehow got spun into "creating a permanent backdoor". I'll let you figure out who was doing the spinning.
If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
"ISO Media" is the MPEG-4 container. What does that version of file output when given the name of an MPEG-4 file? And what codecs are used in each?
So to use Quicktime or software that depends on Quicktime, I will need a Mac? Fuck it, even though I just bought this gaming rig for several thousand dollars and installed Windows 10 on it, I'm going to chuck it in the trash and buy a Mac, because Quicktime is super important to me!
JK+LOL.
Actualy the court order (following the FBI's request) specifically allowed for Apple to limit the "special sw" to that one phone (IMEI, MAC ids, SPU seriel or whatever).
And since it had to be uploaded via DFU mode it had to be signed with Apple's private key, thus the software could not be modified by the FBI or any outside agency to work on any other phones - unless you believe that Apple has already lost control over their private keys ??
All in all it was a pretty good proposal. You could argue whether it should be allowed or not, but it wasn't a bad proposal.
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Get a Linux, install it "bare metal" on a second partition or put it on a thumb drive or SD card etc.
and/or
https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads
Use your Windows piece-of-shit that came with your PC and put Linux in a VM (and/or BSD and/or Mac OS X)
VLC for free right there along with MANY other softwares that are better than Apple/Windows.
-If you install Virtualbox, enable vt-x and install guest additions in your guest OS. Google it.
At the very least you can use a Portable VLC in Windows. No install required just extract to any folder and make a shortcut to the executable (exe).
http://portableapps.com/apps/music_video/vlc_portable
So many non-stories.
Yes, I know. It's clear there's an organised attempt to spread misinformation in this case. The angry mob is all in agreeance that the FBI wants a permanent backdoor and is trying to use corruption and intimidation to achieve it. This, of course, is complete hyperbole. Objective analysis is never applied due to Apple being notoriously good at marketing themselves as "the good guys". They couldn't be trying to pull one over on us could they? Why not? Remember people, this is a for-profit billionaire company several times over.
Furthermore, if the angry mob understood how encryption actually worked they'd realize there's little cause for alarm. Encryption is math. Good encryption is not breakable by anyone that doesn't have the key without significant work. The problem Apple encounters with it's encryption is there's no user convenient way to encrypt the data. Most people will tolerate, at most, a 4 or 5 digit numeric pin due to the complexity of input on a touch screen, and the frequency at which phones need to be accessed from a locked state. A 4 digit pin offers a measly 100,000 possibilities. Brute forcing 100,000 possibilities is a trivial task for even 10 year old consumer hardware. To protect against this, the software that analyses the password input will irreversibly erase the complex encryption keys in the chain after 10 failed pin attempts. An informed person might ask "well couldn't you just mount the data externally from the Apple software? ". Of course. And this is likely what the FBI did. They likely copied the data, mounted it externally, found someone that reversed engineered the encryption algorithm iPhones use, and brute forced the pin outside the iPhone.
Apple knows all this is possible. So you have to ask yourself "why would they bring attention to this?" Now the whole world knows that's it's pretty easy to break into an iPhone, and any phone for that matter. So why do it? Well, it could be that a major iPhone version is releasing this year. A major iPhone version that, by most leaked accounts, is shaping up to be pretty unimpressive. What better way to boost sales than to create an unnecessary controversy, scare everyone, and then sell the solution? Don't be surprised if the iPhone 7 very heavily campaigns on increased security, as was probably their intention all along - they just needed a controversy that would help sell it.
What will no doubt make this whole charade even more nefarious is that there's only really two ways increase security: further obfuscate and complicate the encryption method, or store the keys online. The more you complicate the encryption the more you sacrifice performance. It is also not a guaranteed solution. The guaranteed solution would be to store the encryption keys online. While certainly inconvenient it could easily be sold as a necessary burden for critical data - like with corporations. Of course, this would also have the added benefit of further entrenching iPhone users and companies into the Apple ecosystem. It will truly give Apple all the keys to the castle - all the control. Make sure you can always see the forest for the trees.
If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
version.
http://appldnld.apple.com/Quic...
I don't know how long this link will remain active, but it is for, what I believe to be, the most recent Windows version of
QuickTime.
It probably is the 32bit version and not 64bit, though. Expect this link to go dark soon.
I doubt anyone at /. will see this post though but I hope it helps someone.
Well, I don't mind that I might have stimulated the historical branch of the thread, though my take is again philosophical. I think that acquiring companies for their IP is fundamentally wrong and mostly prevents innovation. However, I'm too tired and short on time right now to treat the topic as deeply as it deserves.
In contrast, I somewhat do mind that the slashdot system moderation continues to reek like the big dog's m0e. (Technical usage from the same period as my Apple II programming.)
Freedom = (Meaningful - Coerced) Choice != (Speech | Beer^2), and sad sock puppets' bad mods avail them naught.
So, not the industrial vacuum pump repair/refurb company then? I guess not, "The PTB Sales" doesn't really fit grammatically with the rest of the comment. Of all the acronyms Google came back with, the German meteorologist group is the only one that does fit, but I thought Germany solved it's cannibalism problems.
Oh no, not meteorologists, metrologists. Study of measures. Human flesh is measured in kilograms.
Oh, and in case you weren't joking at all, it's The Powers That Be.
OH! Not as funny as your other answer, but it does clear things up for me. Sort of. Now I'm just left with the mystery of who or what he thinks the PTB are. Is he really suggesting that the planet is run by Time Lords ("regeneration period") with a penchant for cannibal voyeurism? On it's own, an odd fetish; for a fictional alien race, even stranger.
The both of them engaged in play acting. The FBI wanted to oblige Apple to respond to thousands (or tens of thousands) of FISA requests a year. Also, Apple was happy to have a PR image of being secure while the FBI was happy if dumb criminals thought the iPhones were safe to store incriminating information on.
Citation, please, or STFU.
Well I can't respond to the "Apple was happy to ..." blabla that is sheer speculation, but for the first part, Director Comey is on record for saying that he hoped the Apple case could set a precedent (after saying the case would not be used to set a precedent) and be used by other courts to order the unlocking of phones in ordinary criminal cases. Source