Wow, this news is only like 2 days old and it is just hitting/.?
How about hitting http://www.hackernews.com for the latest, like info that the attack on Yahoo! was different than the others, suggesting a copycat. That was today's news (02 12 2000).
Yesterday they had info about messages within the packets themselves.
Maybe we will see that in a week or so here, but not holding breath.
Here, if the Government calls a cat a dog, it legally becomes a dog.
There are plenty of cases where perfectly legal activity is met by the feds with enormous legal bills (search for Bill Cheek).
Anyway, any analysis would be interesting. Also, some threads farther down this post, suggest that just running this FBI crap will eat up all of your memory anyway, thus generating a self inflicted DoS attack.
If I missed the elimination of privacy element in what Jon wrote, I apologize, but my rants will continue until morale improves.
Already, we have a case where Northwest Airlines now has court decried permission to search the private computers of it's employees in their own homes. They are not yet exercising that power, but they do have it. If that is not yet enough of an outrage, now we have this...
Ford, instead of supplying home computers free (like every other firm with that need does), is offering computers AND internet connection at a discount. If Ford was giving the employees equipment and bandwidth they would have an obvious right to monitor everything. Under this scheme, Ford will not need to get a court order to snoop on the employees that thake up the offer, they will just be able to do it through the normal and accepted (though widly stretched, if they wish) powers of an ISP on traffic monitoring. All under the guise of being "nice" through a "great deal". All the while the employees pay for the potential of privacy invasion.
I really don't give a whit about what they "say" they will do, they will have the ability to monitor everything their employees do.
Wow, I just noticed that I am the hysterical one in this discussion, it seems so alien. With good reason! Friends don't let friends drive Fords.
First off, your firm bought the domains fair and square (I assume), so they are yours. Quit worrying about cyber-squatting issues, that was an issue when NSI did not bother to actually collect money from people grabbing domain names by the fistfull. Now that you have to pay in a reasonable time for any public domain name it is no longer squatting, it is more like hoarding.
As for the second portion of your question, what should you do with the names? That is in essance a financial question.
If your web site generates large amounts of revinue by web contact, i.e., you have ads all over like ZDNET, or you sell stuff direct over the web like FreeBSD.org, etc. then keeping popular names and redirecting the traffic to your main site is the way to go. The name of the game is eyeballs there, with a direct link between eyeballs and sales. Similar to what C|Net has done with news.com (and it's others).
However, if it is more of an informative site, none or few direct sales generated from the web, then taking the domains to one of the auction sites will probably be the best way to go.
I mean, whenever someone besides you and your masters at AndoverVAslashdot do very well, you have a fit. Example: when a company that began in the basement of a house just a few years ago (AOL) recently took over a major media company (Time/Warner) you had an absolute fit. But, when VA swallows up AndoverSlashdot there are no tears.
The question: what the hell is so wrong with organizations that become successful? (please do not be hypocritical in your answer).
Most of the protest is about the way the US courts are acting (although Norway has just jumped in), kinda like the way the Free Kevin demonstrations were international but it was a US court at issue.
Look at http://www.2600.com for versions of the flyer in other languages (yea, I realize you are in England, but that was for other readers).
Is there a case in England preventing the use of DeCSS? (not being a jerk, just checking if I missed something).
I know this really does not answer your question directly, but the best I can do without a hangover;-)
This ruling is absolute nonsense. DC 2600 will be in our usual place (see http://www.dc2600.com for details) quietly having the flyer available near the Sony movie theater in Pentagon City Mall. If we are asked to stop by the mall guards, we will stop. Caution: do not make a scene at our meeting (check our meeting history for what happened to the last bunch of feds that tried that).
Actually I did say (in another post, easy to miss) that I was using Erols (another ISP) and the AOL install did not mess that up.
From other posts on this subjet I have been reading today, it seems the problem is with reading and understanding english onthe part of the user.
If you install and select default instead of custom or the other (do not remember the option) option, AOL will take over all of your dial-up connectivity. That is because you are selecting the option that says that is what it is doing.
I guess I have not had that problem (along with several others on this thread) because we eitherhave good computing habits, or because we read istructions before clicking.
Whatever the case, this court crap seems to be just that, a load of crap so ONE lawyer can grab a big fee.
Thank you for the link. One problem. When I installed 5.0 on my win95/Redhat 6.0 (dual boot) Toshiba P120/48MB laptop, it did not do all the crap that the author said it did to his machine.
Everything still works fine, so I am still lost as to why it would not mess up my box, but it messed up his (unless it is a win98 thing).
The first time 5.0 was installed on that box it was an upgrade from 4.0, but later the HDD was replaced and it got a straight 5.0 install, neither tme did it kill anything (even the old Erols ISP dialup that is no longer used).
I have to use AOL often (travel, work, if you want to flame, flame my unnamed employer, thank you!) and I have been using 5.0 since it's release.
I have not had any of these problems at all with anything.
Also, through AOL connection, I use Netscape (just select direct internet connection when setting that up), mIRC, F-SSH, various CuteFTP, AIM (can have your casual ID on while the one your boss knows is logged into AOL) etc. All with no problem.
I would like to know exactly what the real problem is and see if I can manage to replicate it on the antique laptop I use for the road.
This is the FUNNIEST thing that I have seen here! It beats hot grits, it beats petrification, it beats open source man, it beats don knotts guy, it EVEN BEATS JonKatz!
It is hard to type because my sides hurt (I am serious) and people in cubes around me are asking what the hell is so funny!
So, if there were an infinite number of them...
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If an infinite number of swinging monkey robots, along with an infinite number of swinging input devices, translating contact to text, how long would it take them to come out with SP10 for win2k?
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Farragut Park, Washington DC
Target time: 5:30 PM Friday, 18 Feb. 2000
Date is locked in, time may be moved up.
Print your own flyers (check http://www.2600.com and download) and come to the park. Earlier is better.
If you shop in the area, drop flyers off at the places you shop, the merchants have been very supportive in the DC area.
Check http://www.DC2600.com for updates.
Thank you!
http://www.cert.org/current/current_activity.html# distributed
Wow, this news is only like 2 days old and it is just hitting /.?
How about hitting http://www.hackernews.com for the latest, like info that the attack on Yahoo! was different than the others, suggesting a copycat. That was today's news (02 12 2000).
Yesterday they had info about messages within the packets themselves.
Maybe we will see that in a week or so here, but not holding breath.
Hopefully it will be modded up. Too bad the author was AC, they sould get points.
Respectful request to mod up please?
Here, if the Government calls a cat a dog, it legally becomes a dog.
There are plenty of cases where perfectly legal activity is met by the feds with enormous legal bills (search for Bill Cheek).
Anyway, any analysis would be interesting. Also, some threads farther down this post, suggest that just running this FBI crap will eat up all of your memory anyway, thus generating a self inflicted DoS attack.
This story would be even funnier if it was not so believable!
I am sure some of our overseas friends could take this apart and see ALL of what it does.
If I missed the elimination of privacy element in what Jon wrote, I apologize, but my rants will continue until morale improves.
Already, we have a case where Northwest Airlines now has court decried permission to search the private computers of it's employees in their own homes. They are not yet exercising that power, but they do have it. If that is not yet enough of an outrage, now we have this...
Ford, instead of supplying home computers free (like every other firm with that need does), is offering computers AND internet connection at a discount. If Ford was giving the employees equipment and bandwidth they would have an obvious right to monitor everything. Under this scheme, Ford will not need to get a court order to snoop on the employees that thake up the offer, they will just be able to do it through the normal and accepted (though widly stretched, if they wish) powers of an ISP on traffic monitoring. All under the guise of being "nice" through a "great deal". All the while the employees pay for the potential of privacy invasion.
I really don't give a whit about what they "say" they will do, they will have the ability to monitor everything their employees do.
Wow, I just noticed that I am the hysterical one in this discussion, it seems so alien. With good reason! Friends don't let friends drive Fords.
The article describes an air breaking system similar to the one TGV Rockets designed for their re-useable rocket.
First off, your firm bought the domains fair and square (I assume), so they are yours. Quit worrying about cyber-squatting issues, that was an issue when NSI did not bother to actually collect money from people grabbing domain names by the fistfull. Now that you have to pay in a reasonable time for any public domain name it is no longer squatting, it is more like hoarding.
As for the second portion of your question, what should you do with the names? That is in essance a financial question.
If your web site generates large amounts of revinue by web contact, i.e., you have ads all over like ZDNET, or you sell stuff direct over the web like FreeBSD.org, etc. then keeping popular names and redirecting the traffic to your main site is the way to go. The name of the game is eyeballs there, with a direct link between eyeballs and sales. Similar to what C|Net has done with news.com (and it's others).
However, if it is more of an informative site, none or few direct sales generated from the web, then taking the domains to one of the auction sites will probably be the best way to go.
I mean, whenever someone besides you and your masters at AndoverVAslashdot do very well, you have a fit. Example: when a company that began in the basement of a house just a few years ago (AOL) recently took over a major media company (Time/Warner) you had an absolute fit. But, when VA swallows up AndoverSlashdot there are no tears.
The question: what the hell is so wrong with organizations that become successful? (please do not be hypocritical in your answer).
how old can this stuff get?
2/6/00
If you are in the Washington DC area, check here: http://www.dc2600.com
But are they supposed to match and stuff?
Most of the protest is about the way the US courts are acting (although Norway has just jumped in), kinda like the way the Free Kevin demonstrations were international but it was a US court at issue.
;-)
Look at http://www.2600.com for versions of the flyer in other languages (yea, I realize you are in England, but that was for other readers).
Is there a case in England preventing the use of DeCSS? (not being a jerk, just checking if I missed something).
I know this really does not answer your question directly, but the best I can do without a hangover
Yea, heard of that but thanks for the reminder.
I use Netscape 4.7 that I downloaded and installed from Netscape.
Can't any ISP "track" you while you are using a connection to them anyway?
For some reason the link did not take when I posted a moment ago. Here is the URL for the flyer: http://www.2600.com/news/2000/0130-flyer/
This ruling is absolute nonsense. DC 2600 will be in our usual place (see http://www.dc2600.com for details) quietly having the flyer available near the Sony movie theater in Pentagon City Mall. If we are asked to stop by the mall guards, we will stop. Caution: do not make a scene at our meeting (check our meeting history for what happened to the last bunch of feds that tried that).
Actually I did say (in another post, easy to miss) that I was using Erols (another ISP) and the AOL install did not mess that up.
From other posts on this subjet I have been reading today, it seems the problem is with reading and understanding english onthe part of the user.
If you install and select default instead of custom or the other (do not remember the option) option, AOL will take over all of your dial-up connectivity. That is because you are selecting the option that says that is what it is doing.
I guess I have not had that problem (along with several others on this thread) because we eitherhave good computing habits, or because we read istructions before clicking.
Whatever the case, this court crap seems to be just that, a load of crap so ONE lawyer can grab a big fee.
Thank you for the link. One problem. When I installed 5.0 on my win95/Redhat 6.0 (dual boot) Toshiba P120/48MB laptop, it did not do all the crap that the author said it did to his machine.
Everything still works fine, so I am still lost as to why it would not mess up my box, but it messed up his (unless it is a win98 thing).
The first time 5.0 was installed on that box it was an upgrade from 4.0, but later the HDD was replaced and it got a straight 5.0 install, neither tme did it kill anything (even the old Erols ISP dialup that is no longer used).
So, I am doomed to be lost on this one it seems.
I have to use AOL often (travel, work, if you want to flame, flame my unnamed employer, thank you!) and I have been using 5.0 since it's release.
I have not had any of these problems at all with anything.
Also, through AOL connection, I use Netscape (just select direct internet connection when setting that up), mIRC, F-SSH, various CuteFTP, AIM (can have your casual ID on while the one your boss knows is logged into AOL) etc. All with no problem.
I would like to know exactly what the real problem is and see if I can manage to replicate it on the antique laptop I use for the road.
This is the FUNNIEST thing that I have seen here! It beats hot grits, it beats petrification, it beats open source man, it beats don knotts guy, it EVEN BEATS JonKatz!
It is hard to type because my sides hurt (I am serious) and people in cubes around me are asking what the hell is so funny!
If an infinite number of swinging monkey robots, along with an infinite number of swinging input devices, translating contact to text, how long would it take them to come out with SP10 for win2k?