So, MSFT gave them the money owed, in return for non-voting preferred stock. So if Borland does well, MSFT gets dividends. And Borland needed the cash, so let's not complain.
Based on the poll results, it looks like they'll do a Red Hat distro and any needed changes to get a S.u.S.e. distro. But unlikely they'll do any other distro without support from them. Debian might squeak by for that reason.
Choosing to only do Delphi for Linux would be a mistake. Doing both Delphi and C++ Builder would capture major mindshare and reestablish Borland as the tool provider of choice for many people.
Geographically it's pretty much that way. The only way to get to Redmond is to go over bridges, one of which goes through another city. And that's just to get to Bellevue. Redmond is past it.
Ten years ago it was all cow pasture over there. Now it's LA North. Seattle is still the same as it ever was, plus we're more fun at parties.
Lake Washington is bigger than some middle eastern countries...
Well, it depends on what you do. For your needs, perhaps. For me, I'm still undecided between KDE and GNOME. I look forward to the next versions of both.
Sheesh, everyone on slashdot knows who "owns" slashdot. And it's not Red Hat. I should know, since I now "own" Red Hat and it isn't one of the Red Hat assets.
Actually, I should say, it's not that it hasn't been tested, it's just that noone did anything to fix the problems found in the tests, because "they were not cosmetically significant".
I remember the old days with MSFT and how, if it was a bug, you just coded to create an error message to pass certification, not actually fix the code...
Exactly. A decent CORBA implementation is better
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I agree, trying to add OLE gigo would be a waste. Better off getting decent CORBA implementations anyways - more bang for the buck and better able to integrate into the enterprise.
And don't even get me started about OLE+ - what a turkey.
Why there are so many MSFT minions today
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I think they've been given marching orders again. After their dismal failures in the InfoWorld fora, they've decided slashdot is the enemy.
Hey, guys, lighten up. Go to HempFest or something and get a life.
I think in Redmond they just troll slashdot
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I mean, they take about 5 minutes ordering their lattes. Real Seattleites know their barristas and will say "Yup" in response to the question: "You want your regular, Jim?".
Besides, we drink Chai or tea in the real Seattle nowadays.
Seriously, Net stocks don't perform well with P/E ratios, because ---
THEY'RE TOO NEW
sigh. So they don't have earnings, and when they finally get some, this is bad (!!) because now they have a P/E and it's something like 500 and everyone freaks out.
Which is just plain stupid.
I love low P/E, 5 is nice (MSDW), 10 is good (LMT), 20 is ok, 30 is a bit high (but average today), 40 is pricy, 50+ means I better look more closely.
Seriously, for me Red Hat is a diversifying move, by spreading out investments in a number of different areas. If you were your typical Affinity group member, you may have 100 to 400 shares, but that was most of your free cash. So your risk factor is much higher, since you're not diversified.
Basically, if a single stock is more than 5% of your holdings, especially that of your workplace, you should consider rebalancing your investments into other areas.
There's nothing wrong with single stocks, especially as used with DRIPs in the buy and hold manner, but they increase your risk factor if your holdings in a sector or a stock are too large. My holdings are heavy on tech and pharmaceuticals, but then I understand those areas, so this is not an unreasonable risk.
Your average person has most of their holdings in their retirement accounts, with about 50% in the stock of the company they work for. This is not a diversified portfolio.
I wasn't suggesting not paying for StarOffice licenses. I was saying you could minimize the problems, by doing the usual corporate maneuver of only having one default configuration for workstations/PCs, with a standard PC and standard software. Which is what many places do with MSFT, so it's just a matter of saying goodbye to MS Office and hello to StarOffice.
And it works for Win95/98, so why not install it onto the old Windows machines you allow to exist?
Where did you get the idea I was proposing ignoring licensing restrictions?
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I'm betting on either 2002 or 2003, myself.
Seriously, this was an out-of-court settlement.
So, MSFT gave them the money owed, in return for non-voting preferred stock. So if Borland does well, MSFT gets dividends. And Borland needed the cash, so let's not complain.
Really. I was kind of shocked to see it there - all us techies killed it, but it was happily sitting on her desktop.
Oh well.
Where can I buy it with my filthy lucre ...
Sheesh, and Wired is just so much better than us at avoiding profit.
Kind of amusing, when you consider that Compaq and MSFT have been together for many years.
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Guess that means W2K/WNT is not doing as well as Bill G would have us believe
Based on the poll results, it looks like they'll do a Red Hat distro and any needed changes to get a S.u.S.e. distro. But unlikely they'll do any other distro without support from them. Debian might squeak by for that reason.
Choosing to only do Delphi for Linux would be a mistake. Doing both Delphi and C++ Builder would capture major mindshare and reestablish Borland as the tool provider of choice for many people.
Fifth in New Hampshire? Hmmm. I think it's first in Washington state ...
And, once W2K ships (in 2002), we can expect Y2KTrolls.
Of course, OLE is not CORBA. CORBA is useful, cross-platform, and OLE is a joke.
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But - you knew that
Ooh. So, my son has a 333Mhz iMac. I am in such awe of you.
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I like windows, they look good on houses
Geographically it's pretty much that way. The only way to get to Redmond is to go over bridges, one of which goes through another city. And that's just to get to Bellevue. Redmond is past it.
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Ten years ago it was all cow pasture over there. Now it's LA North. Seattle is still the same as it ever was, plus we're more fun at parties.
Lake Washington is bigger than some middle eastern countries
Good name. You will be written up in the FAQ as the originator of the phrase. Sadly, in ten years, noone will remember what it means.
;-)
Well, it depends on what you do. For your needs, perhaps. For me, I'm still undecided between KDE and GNOME. I look forward to the next versions of both.
Sheesh, everyone on slashdot knows who "owns" slashdot. And it's not Red Hat. I should know, since I now "own" Red Hat and it isn't one of the Red Hat assets.
Nice try. Cafeteria shut down in Redmond, troll?
Which, sad to say also applies to Windows 2000.
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Actually, I should say, it's not that it hasn't been tested, it's just that noone did anything to fix the problems found in the tests, because "they were not cosmetically significant".
I remember the old days with MSFT and how, if it was a bug, you just coded to create an error message to pass certification, not actually fix the code
I agree, trying to add OLE gigo would be a waste. Better off getting decent CORBA implementations anyways - more bang for the buck and better able to integrate into the enterprise.
And don't even get me started about OLE+ - what a turkey.
We're not excited. You are.
So, buy any Red Hat shares lately?
I think they've been given marching orders again. After their dismal failures in the InfoWorld fora, they've decided slashdot is the enemy.
Hey, guys, lighten up. Go to HempFest or something and get a life.
I mean, they take about 5 minutes ordering their lattes. Real Seattleites know their barristas and will say "Yup" in response to the question: "You want your regular, Jim?".
Besides, we drink Chai or tea in the real Seattle nowadays.
Yeah, right.
ROTFL
Seriously, Net stocks don't perform well with P/E ratios, because ---
THEY'RE TOO NEW
sigh. So they don't have earnings, and when they finally get some, this is bad (!!) because now they have a P/E and it's something like 500 and everyone freaks out.
Which is just plain stupid.
I love low P/E, 5 is nice (MSDW), 10 is good (LMT), 20 is ok, 30 is a bit high (but average today), 40 is pricy, 50+ means I better look more closely.
Seriously, for me Red Hat is a diversifying move, by spreading out investments in a number of different areas. If you were your typical Affinity group member, you may have 100 to 400 shares, but that was most of your free cash. So your risk factor is much higher, since you're not diversified.
Basically, if a single stock is more than 5% of your holdings, especially that of your workplace, you should consider rebalancing your investments into other areas.
There's nothing wrong with single stocks, especially as used with DRIPs in the buy and hold manner, but they increase your risk factor if your holdings in a sector or a stock are too large. My holdings are heavy on tech and pharmaceuticals, but then I understand those areas, so this is not an unreasonable risk.
Your average person has most of their holdings in their retirement accounts, with about 50% in the stock of the company they work for. This is not a diversified portfolio.
Hey, who said he was more boring than me?
I wasn't suggesting not paying for StarOffice licenses. I was saying you could minimize the problems, by doing the usual corporate maneuver of only having one default configuration for workstations/PCs, with a standard PC and standard software. Which is what many places do with MSFT, so it's just a matter of saying goodbye to MS Office and hello to StarOffice.
And it works for Win95/98, so why not install it onto the old Windows machines you allow to exist?
Where did you get the idea I was proposing ignoring licensing restrictions?