DDD can be integrated with a couple of editors ((X)Emacs is one). But the author strongly advices against it. And I do too, since you will lose the tooltips when hoovering above a variable.
Looking from the Debugger screenshot it seems pretty lame. Compare with the excellent debugger DDD, which beats the pants out of every other debugger I've used so far.
Actually, when I worked with SGI-computer four years ago I used a very good debugger. DDD has lended many ideas from that debugger. Currently, I can'r remember the name.
Has it ever occured to you that the cygnus tools still are in Beta versions? I know that they have one person looking into converting to cygnus.
In the meantime, you should switch to Linux. (Why are you sitting in Windows anyway?)
Speaking of VC++, it is the best product that Microsoft has done. Given that they actually must use their own compiler in other products it has become lean and mean.
I don't think this is a good idea. The Qt developers are very good at what they are doing. Being burned by GPL advovates in the great KDE/Qt flamewar I think they would quit. This would cause Qt to lose momentum. Better if SUSE bought Troll Tech at poured resources into KDE.
RedHat should stick with GNOME and of course ensure compability with KDE. I think that is a recipe to beat Microsoft on the desktop.
Otherwise, buying Cygnus would be a great idea since Cygnus is much more important for Linux than RedHat is.
Agreed. If he doesn't quit with it, we should start a campaign to dump John Katz from Slashdot. He should know that MS fans are very rare on Slashdot. It's like waving with a red carpet in front of a bull.
(What the heck, dump him anyway. His stories are boring and certainly not geeky enough.;) I didn't read through it)
I read through the Tom-article and the claim was 40% faster in floating point and 8% faster in integer. Browse through Toms site for better measurements.
OK, a little bit off-topic. But that despises Abits claim that no Athlons will be distributed this year. Look at Alan Cox diary http://194.117.157.10/diary/
I don't know if he got it from AMD or if he bought one. But this means good support for Athlon in Linux. I want one too.:)
Those 100 poor souls probably are in a very good seat. They have 64 bit OS experiences. Can't we trick them into work on Linux/Alpha or Linux/Merced instead of NT/Merced?;)
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Can someone explain to me why they would like to kill of Alpha? I mean, isn't the Alpha processor what Intel is dreaming of when they are creating Merced?
I will never understand marketing. Why did Compaq buy Digital anyway? It sure smells like when SGI bought Cray.
OK, let's say that WINE is incredible succesful and completely replaces the WIN32 API. Then Linux would get a lot more applications from the Windows world.
But that wouldn't encourage companies to port their software to Linux, since it already works almost as good as in Windows. That would leave Microsoft in charge of the WIN32 API should evolve. (And to my personal opinion, the WIN32 API sucks bigtime)
I would much rather see success for wxWindows, GTK and Qt.
Anyway, I think it's great that people writing Free software gets paid for their hard labour.
Corel stock raised 20% when they announced their user friendly Linux distribution.
But SGI sounds a little desperate. Let's hope that their Linux move will be succesful. Anyway Linux is in a win-win situation. And I really like that.:-)
For me, it has nothing to do with if Amazon is trying to be an online mart or not. It is the availability on books, how cheap it is and how fast you can get the books. Actually, I coulnd't care less about the coolness of online stores. They should provide me with something I can't go out in the nearest store and buy.
In March something I ordered Programming with Qt and Samba: Integrating Unix and Windows. I was in no hurry to get the book so I took something called surface mail (= the banana boat).
Failure 1: Samba: The book Integrating Unix and Windows was out of stock and was never reprinted.
Failure 2: April 20 - July 15 is way too long for me. (I actually ordered the book in March but it was out of stock then)
Failure 3: The swedish custom wanted to have more than half the price of the book.
So from now I will buy my books from bokus.com in Sweden. They are more expensive but you get it fast at least. And bokus don't have nearly as much titles of course.
First off, they don't need to release documentation, write specs and give support. Just release the source dammit. Isn't it funny that Linux has come this far without support from hardware companies? The network cards, for example works much better i Linux than in Windows. (Thanks Donald Becker)
You say that it cost them resources. How much will it cost them when no one buys their hardware? And you are forgetting the bugfixes and enhancements they will get back. Give and take, you know..
Funny that you mention 3dfx. I own a VooDoo 2 card, and it has given me much joy. But my next card is not going to be from 3dfx. Why you say,... because Matrox has released their specs, and NVidia are writing open source drivers for Linux. And yes, the other cards are technical superior also. 3dfx is going to lose... bigtime.
Hi, it's Utter formely known as the AC that you replied to.
Thanks for you clarification. I must admit that I have built my own homegrown view of graphics in Linux.
I think I got it from that I had to build a specific 3dfx module and insert it into the kernel. And I also had to compile the kernel with MTRR support. Without these two, the Linux version would run half the speed of the Windows version. I assumed that the windows version directly could set the MTRRs from glide. (And also that NT had support for graphics in the kernel. Which got NT the reputation to do the famous blue screen with certain screen savers)
But back to why Linux is slower. According to the glide porting guy, he used the same code as in Windows. And ID ported the mini GL, which also is the same code as in Windows. Result, 37 fps in Linux and 42 fps in Windows. (Even faster on NT)
When I compared the Q3 test the differences were larger. (But there 3dfx had optimized the GL drivers up and beyond, so it looked awful) The Linux version looked nice but was SLOOOW.
Conclusion.. I will never buy a 3dfx card again. If they can't support Linux or give me an open source driver, they can have it.
It was really Netscape really that opened my eyes for Open Source and not Linux. Before I just thought Linux was a good OS, but couldn't really compete with Microsoft. Then shortly after the Netscape announcement Linux started to conquer the media and world. Linux would have done it anyway but Mozilla did speed up things a lot.
I still think that Mozilla could be a success if they just managed to release the product. Then a community outside the Netscape employees could be built. In the beginning, development would of course rapidly drop but slowly it would start up again, hopefully as a part of both GNOME and KDE. But the browser must be released first!
(If I had only some influence, I would tell them to drop the news and mail client and the Composer)
I must say that I also is disappointed with both the KDE and GNOME communities. They should have embraced Mozilla early. I mean, no one can honestly say that the browsing capabilities of KDE is good?
But I also blame Mozilla.org (and jwz for being such a quitter). I helped out in the beginning, but felt to be out in the cold with their great code drop of the old layout engine. I know that they finally decided to pay for old sins, but how do they think developers will react to their constant incompatible changes?
Ever heard of setting the threshold? Mine is set to 1 and I never see any AC posts. The downside is that there are actually many ACs that make good comments.
So we can finally decide to stop the Red Hat bashing.:-/
But then I have a question, which of Red Hat and SUSE bring back most to Linux? Red Hat pays kernel hackers (Alan Cox and others) and GNOME programmers. I know that SUSE makes X servers but not much more.
Well, I use Debian anyway but to me the company that pays Alan Cox is more likely to get my money.
I think in the future when Linux grows even more we will have stars like in sports where people want someone they can identify themselves with. Could Alan Cox be such a star? Well maybe not for the big masses.;-)
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You actually read through the thing? I am of course also looking forward to Alan Cox.
Analysis of gprof? It sounds that this is worth looking at after all. Reading gprof output is a completely pain.
Don't know what SpeedShop is. Can they be used on Linux or are they SGI specific?
DDD can be integrated with a couple of editors ((X)Emacs is one). But the author strongly advices against it. And I do too, since you will lose the tooltips when hoovering above a variable.
Correction:
It also showed the breakpoints as a RED line in the scrollbar-area. Very nice, haven't seen it in
another debugger.
Yes, it was cvd that I used.
It also showed the breakpoints as a read line in the scrollbar-area. Very nice, haven't seen it in another debugger.
Looking from the Debugger screenshot it seems pretty lame. Compare with the excellent debugger DDD, which beats the pants out of every other debugger I've used so far.
Actually, when I worked with SGI-computer four years ago I used a very good debugger. DDD has lended many ideas from that debugger. Currently, I can'r remember the name.
Then why don't you use TrueType fonts. You need to install a TrueType font server, xfstt is one.
Talk about completely clueless..
Has it ever occured to you that the cygnus tools still are in Beta versions? I know that they have one person looking into converting to cygnus.
In the meantime, you should switch to Linux. (Why are you sitting in Windows anyway?)
Speaking of VC++, it is the best product that Microsoft has done. Given that they actually must use their own compiler in other products it has become lean and mean.
I don't think this is a good idea. The Qt developers are very good at what they are doing. Being burned by GPL advovates in the great KDE/Qt flamewar I think they would quit. This would cause Qt to lose momentum. Better if SUSE bought Troll Tech at poured resources into KDE.
RedHat should stick with GNOME and of course ensure compability with KDE. I think that is a recipe to beat Microsoft on the desktop.
Otherwise, buying Cygnus would be a great idea since Cygnus is much more important for Linux than RedHat is.
Agreed. If he doesn't quit with it, we should start a campaign to dump John Katz from Slashdot. He should know that MS fans are very rare on Slashdot. It's like waving with a red carpet in front of a bull.
(What the heck, dump him anyway. His stories are boring and certainly not geeky enough.;) I didn't read through it)
I read through the Tom-article and the claim was 40% faster in floating point and 8% faster in integer. Browse through Toms site for better measurements.
OK, a little bit off-topic. But that despises Abits claim that no Athlons will be distributed this year. Look at Alan Cox diary http://194.117.157.10/diary/
:)
I don't know if he got it from AMD or if he bought one. But this means good support for Athlon in Linux. I want one too.
Those 100 poor souls probably are in a very good seat. They have 64 bit OS experiences. Can't we trick them into work on Linux/Alpha or Linux/Merced instead of NT/Merced? ;)
Can someone explain to me why they would like to kill of Alpha? I mean, isn't the Alpha processor what Intel is dreaming of when they are creating Merced?
I will never understand marketing. Why did Compaq buy Digital anyway? It sure smells like when SGI bought Cray.
OK, let's say that WINE is incredible succesful and completely replaces the WIN32 API. Then Linux would get a lot more applications from the Windows world.
But that wouldn't encourage companies to port their software to Linux, since it already works almost as good as in Windows. That would leave Microsoft in charge of the WIN32 API should evolve. (And to my personal opinion, the WIN32 API sucks bigtime)
I would much rather see success for wxWindows, GTK and Qt.
Anyway, I think it's great that people writing Free software gets paid for their hard labour.
Corel stock raised 20% when they announced their user friendly Linux distribution.
:-)
But SGI sounds a little desperate. Let's hope that their Linux move will be succesful. Anyway Linux is in a win-win situation. And I really like that.
5%, he said in one interview. But he is source coordinator and decides how the infrastructure. That is more important than LOC.
For me, it has nothing to do with if Amazon is trying to be an online mart or not. It is the availability on books, how cheap it is and how fast you can get the books. Actually, I coulnd't care less about the coolness of online stores. They should provide me with something I can't go out in the nearest store and buy.
In March something I ordered Programming with Qt and Samba: Integrating Unix and Windows. I was in no hurry to get the book so I took something called surface mail (= the banana boat).
Failure 1: Samba: The book Integrating Unix and Windows was out of stock and was never reprinted.
Failure 2: April 20 - July 15 is way too long for me. (I actually ordered the book in March but it was out of stock then)
Failure 3: The swedish custom wanted to have more than half the price of the book.
So from now I will buy my books from bokus.com in Sweden. They are more expensive but you get it fast at least. And bokus don't have nearly as much titles of course.
So much for global economy.
First off, they don't need to release documentation, write specs and give support. Just release the source dammit. Isn't it funny that Linux has come this far without support from hardware companies? The network cards, for example works much better i Linux than in Windows. (Thanks Donald Becker)
... because Matrox has released their specs, and NVidia are writing open source drivers for Linux.
You say that it cost them resources. How much will it cost them when no one buys their hardware? And you are forgetting the bugfixes and enhancements they will get back. Give and take, you know..
Funny that you mention 3dfx. I own a VooDoo 2 card, and it has given me much joy. But my next card is not going to be from 3dfx. Why you say,
And yes, the other cards are technical superior also. 3dfx is going to lose... bigtime.
Hi, it's Utter formely known as the AC that you replied to.
;-)
Thanks for you clarification. I must admit that I have built my own homegrown view of graphics in Linux.
I think I got it from that I had to build a specific 3dfx module and insert it into the kernel. And I also had to compile the kernel with MTRR support. Without these two, the Linux version would run half the speed of the Windows version. I assumed that the windows version directly could set the MTRRs from glide. (And also that NT had support for graphics in the kernel. Which got NT the reputation to do the famous blue screen with certain screen savers)
But back to why Linux is slower. According to the glide porting guy, he used the same code as in Windows. And ID ported the mini GL, which also is the same code as in Windows. Result, 37 fps in Linux and 42 fps in Windows. (Even faster on NT)
When I compared the Q3 test the differences were larger. (But there 3dfx had optimized the GL drivers up and beyond, so it looked awful) The Linux version looked nice but was SLOOOW.
Conclusion.. I will never buy a 3dfx card again. If they can't support Linux or give me an open source driver, they can have it.
Not that this has anything to do with Amiga.
This message is moderated up to two? Posting a link would have been soo much better.
It was really Netscape really that opened my eyes for Open Source and not Linux. Before I just thought Linux was a good OS, but couldn't really compete with Microsoft. Then shortly after the Netscape announcement Linux started to conquer the media and world. Linux would have done it anyway but Mozilla did speed up things a lot.
I still think that Mozilla could be a success if they just managed to release the product. Then a community outside the Netscape employees could be built. In the beginning, development would of course rapidly drop but slowly it would start up again, hopefully as a part of both GNOME and KDE. But the browser must be released first!
(If I had only some influence, I would tell them to drop the news and mail client and the Composer)
I must say that I also is disappointed with both the KDE and GNOME communities. They should have embraced Mozilla early. I mean, no one can honestly say that the browsing capabilities of KDE is good?
But I also blame Mozilla.org (and jwz for being such a quitter). I helped out in the beginning, but felt to be out in the cold with their great code drop of the old layout engine. I know that they finally decided to pay for old sins, but how do they think developers will react to their constant incompatible changes?
Ever heard of setting the threshold? Mine is set to 1 and I never see any AC posts. The downside is that there are actually many ACs that make good comments.
... and next time the advantage will be mine.
You think that the Linux-kernel coders rolls over and play dead? I don't think so...
So we can finally decide to stop the Red Hat bashing. :-/
;-)
But then I have a question, which of Red Hat and SUSE bring back most to Linux? Red Hat pays kernel hackers (Alan Cox and others) and GNOME programmers. I know that SUSE makes X servers but not much more.
Well, I use Debian anyway but to me the company that pays Alan Cox is more likely to get my money.
I think in the future when Linux grows even more we will have stars like in sports where people want someone they can identify themselves with. Could Alan Cox be such a star? Well maybe not for the big masses.