As someone already replied - Linux is a lot faster (I use Gnome and Nautilus, imagine that;). And I have also got so used to Linux I couldn't work in OS X comfortably.
I have used Mandrake on x86 for several years, but two weeks ago I bought myself an iBook (my old Toshiba fell on the floor, RIP) and decided to go with Debian Woody PPC.
To my great surprise it went mostly smooth. I downloaded a minimal CD image and got up and running from there. apt-get install really is as cool as they say;)
My biggest problem was that by default I had kernel 2.2 something and PMU (APM for Mac) crashed and burned. 2.4 fixed that though.
I really can't say that PPC is so mega-cool, but walking around with an Apple laptop (very rare) with Linux installed (almost as rare) is very geeky;)
So far all the lifeforms we have seen are the ones that we have found here, on earth. Ands as those are the only ones we know, we define life from them. No good definition yet, I think, but this is the point. If we started looking for... lightwaves based lifeforms, we'd soon not understand what exactly is it we are looking for ourselves. In order to identify something as life, we have to understand it as such.
I am no Linux guru, but I love it. Although it can make you mad and make you drink too much coffe;)>/P>
Why? Why do people download beta & alpha releases. Probably something basic. Like watching prretty girls, I like watching pretty screenshots. And there's this feeling of accomplishment when I see a half-baked, much hyped thing really work in MY computer. It's not "Where do I want to go today", it's "Where will I be tomorrow" delivered today. Nevermind the crashes.
And the much hyped sense of community around Linux. It does exist.
I think and many of you know, this topic goes a little further than First Amendment & internet. It goes back to the stories of Hellmouth. It goes back to the question why some people go shooting their schoolmates and why some have to put up websites with inflammatory content.
First of all, I don't live in the aforementioned country. But I have spent six months there, which for me was enough to not want to come back for a long time. In short, I was an exchange student in a village of ~2000 people in North-Eastern Ohio (yeah, corn). The idea of the exchange program was to let young people from Eastern Europe see little of the world, of the USA in this case.
I have never thought of myself as the center of the world, neither have I felt like the outcast geek of the school or any other social group applicable. I had my friends at home and I was pretty happy at what I did. Now finding myself in a small American town, I was suddenly clueless as to what was going on. Maybe this sounds familiar: wears all black (I like it), listens to strange punk music, claims to be an anarchist.... (add oddities as you wish). What shocked me to the bone was that I had never ever before though of my views as outcast or even odd. I was a happy teenage punk with several ideas too big for my little head at that time, but always eager to dispute them. The magic word was dispute. I liked talking to people mostly of the way things are and the way they should be.
Now in my new home, new school, I found neither the people nor the time to continue the way I was used to.
It is not easy to point out what exactly it was. But I can try. The first and maybe the strangest of them all is the motorization of USA. If you live in the country, the only way to get somewhere is by car. At a certain point in their lives, young people are totally at the mercy of someone with transportation. Heck, there weren't even proper sideways. How am I supposed to go and "play with other kids" when I can't get there.
Second - the all loving, all caring, all disgusting attitude every person over the age of 25 seemed to have towards youngsters - They are kids, treat them with love and care, shield them from all evil in this world. But when they mess up, punish them with all you have, they have to learn responsibility. Res-fucking-ponsibility is learned from having the freedom to make mistakes. Also, what teenagers think, is important. For them, their thoughts are most important. And when you look back, I am sure you still remember your emotions from that time as very vivid. When you grow up, you get sort of a buffer zone. Instead of covering the walls with pink stickers saying "Kids zone, enter with love", try to listen to them. And take them seriously.
Third - this is the general shortcoming of small palces, and America is full of those - is the small-town-mentality thing. Green hair, yikes! Everybody knows everyone and likes talking about it behind their back. Small places often try to surround them with a barrier where starnge == bad and things are done the way they are. For no other reason.
And this is also a wider problem - pseudo values. Remember who was cool in highschool. And for what reasons. Later things change. Not always, but you definately discover that the values you judged people by back then are pretty worthless now.
I know this is not the most coherent post ever written, but I get a little emotional. To illustrate I will give you a example that left me mouth wide open: The host family I was living in had three children (+me) - 18 year old girl, 16 year old girl and a few years younger boy. It was New-Years eve or something and the parents wanted to go to a party of some sort. The problem was, that they just COULDN'T leave the children home alone because they might get into trouble...
Back to the beginning - This is just another classical example of the way American educatinal system works on those different. Not evil, not psycho. Just different. They are constantly reminded of it with no chance for the geek in question to fight back by honest means. What is left is frustration with the world, with everything. No wonder guns go off. Luckily, most just start their life totally depressed. Way to go.
Something in your post hit me. Didn't take long to figure it out - it was the general attitude. I have heard it before, many times, and if you think a little, you can understand it too;) GNOME, for me, is the only way to go. I adore it... This is EXACTLY the way Macpeople (incl me) speak of Macs - tenderly, lovingly, passionately. And they do love their Macs. Maybe not because it is the most stable or technologically advanced OS. No, they love it because of some strange "Think different" chemistry. And now I can see this kind of chemistry is working here. It could be said that Gnome has made it. If they have the chemistry, they will go far. Very far. L.
However much people dislike the idea, it has been now (at least partially) implemented, and nothing can take it back anymore. Thats, by the way, one of the key points of OS software. Whether it will suceed or not, is another matter. Being free to all doesnt guarantee going to the masses. An extra cool feature of Freenet is that it gives me the same kind of feeling as W.Gibsons books:) L.
Eee, nope. The Mac version of IE 4.5 is fast, stable and more standards compliant than the NS monster. Really, the only reason it should be handled with extreme care is the fact that it is MS. L.
Jon, then 15 years old, was contacted by the lawyer-firm Simonsen Musæus, who told him that Internett-links to DeCSS had to be removed. Simultaneously, the MPA mobilized in the american court system. Their demands of removal of links was first denied. But last week their demands were met in both California and New York.
Wasn't it that although posting the decrypto stuff on webpage was not to be, linking was not prohibited?
Right and wrong I don't like idea of scientists having to listen to the religious leaders in this case either. Because I am an atheist. But many aren't. For many people, religion is both support and a moral guide and a thousand other things besides, so if this is really such a fundamental breakthrough and life in itself can be created in labs, their religion will either have to change or dissapear. So basically there will be a lot of bad blood. And by having a (hopefully) public discussion, things will have time to both settle down and settle in. In peoples minds that is.
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As someone already replied - Linux is a lot faster (I use Gnome and Nautilus, imagine that ;). And I have also got so used to Linux I couldn't work in OS X comfortably.
L.
I have used Mandrake on x86 for several years, but two weeks ago I bought myself an iBook (my old Toshiba fell on the floor, RIP) and decided to go with Debian Woody PPC.
;)
;)
To my great surprise it went mostly smooth. I downloaded a minimal CD image and got up and running from there. apt-get install really is as cool as they say
My biggest problem was that by default I had kernel 2.2 something and PMU (APM for Mac) crashed and burned. 2.4 fixed that though.
I really can't say that PPC is so mega-cool, but walking around with an Apple laptop (very rare) with Linux installed (almost as rare) is very geeky
We don't think that necessarily. We assume.
So far all the lifeforms we have seen are the ones that we have found here, on earth. Ands as those are the only ones we know, we define life from them. No good definition yet, I think, but this is the point. If we started looking for ... lightwaves based lifeforms, we'd soon not understand what exactly is it we are looking for ourselves. In order to identify something as life, we have to understand it as such.
L.
I am no Linux guru, but I love it. Although it can make you mad and make you drink too much coffe ;)>/P>
Why? Why do people download beta & alpha releases. Probably something basic. Like watching prretty girls, I like watching pretty screenshots. And there's this feeling of accomplishment when I see a half-baked, much hyped thing really work in MY computer. It's not "Where do I want to go today", it's "Where will I be tomorrow" delivered today. Nevermind the crashes.
And the much hyped sense of community around Linux. It does exist.
I think and many of you know, this topic goes a little further than First Amendment & internet. It goes back to the stories of Hellmouth. It goes back to the question why some people go shooting their schoolmates and why some have to put up websites with inflammatory content.
First of all, I don't live in the aforementioned country. But I have spent six months there, which for me was enough to not want to come back for a long time. In short, I was an exchange student in a village of ~2000 people in North-Eastern Ohio (yeah, corn). The idea of the exchange program was to let young people from Eastern Europe see little of the world, of the USA in this case.
I have never thought of myself as the center of the world, neither have I felt like the outcast geek of the school or any other social group applicable. I had my friends at home and I was pretty happy at what I did. Now finding myself in a small American town, I was suddenly clueless as to what was going on. Maybe this sounds familiar: wears all black (I like it), listens to strange punk music, claims to be an anarchist.... (add oddities as you wish). What shocked me to the bone was that I had never ever before though of my views as outcast or even odd. I was a happy teenage punk with several ideas too big for my little head at that time, but always eager to dispute them. The magic word was dispute. I liked talking to people mostly of the way things are and the way they should be.
Now in my new home, new school, I found neither the people nor the time to continue the way I was used to.
It is not easy to point out what exactly it was. But I can try. The first and maybe the strangest of them all is the motorization of USA. If you live in the country, the only way to get somewhere is by car. At a certain point in their lives, young people are totally at the mercy of someone with transportation. Heck, there weren't even proper sideways. How am I supposed to go and "play with other kids" when I can't get there.
Second - the all loving, all caring, all disgusting attitude every person over the age of 25 seemed to have towards youngsters - They are kids, treat them with love and care, shield them from all evil in this world. But when they mess up, punish them with all you have, they have to learn responsibility. Res-fucking-ponsibility is learned from having the freedom to make mistakes. Also, what teenagers think, is important. For them, their thoughts are most important. And when you look back, I am sure you still remember your emotions from that time as very vivid. When you grow up, you get sort of a buffer zone. Instead of covering the walls with pink stickers saying "Kids zone, enter with love", try to listen to them. And take them seriously.
Third - this is the general shortcoming of small palces, and America is full of those - is the small-town-mentality thing. Green hair, yikes! Everybody knows everyone and likes talking about it behind their back. Small places often try to surround them with a barrier where starnge == bad and things are done the way they are. For no other reason.
And this is also a wider problem - pseudo values. Remember who was cool in highschool. And for what reasons. Later things change. Not always, but you definately discover that the values you judged people by back then are pretty worthless now.
I know this is not the most coherent post ever written, but I get a little emotional. To illustrate I will give you a example that left me mouth wide open:
The host family I was living in had three children (+me) - 18 year old girl, 16 year old girl and a few years younger boy. It was New-Years eve or something and the parents wanted to go to a party of some sort. The problem was, that they just COULDN'T leave the children home alone because they might get into trouble...
Back to the beginning - This is just another classical example of the way American educatinal system works on those different. Not evil, not psycho. Just different. They are constantly reminded of it with no chance for the geek in question to fight back by honest means. What is left is frustration with the world, with everything. No wonder guns go off. Luckily, most just start their life totally depressed. Way to go.
Something in your post hit me. Didn't take long to figure it out - it was the general attitude. I have heard it before, many times, and if you think a little, you can understand it too ;) GNOME, for me, is the only way to go. I adore it... This is EXACTLY the way Macpeople (incl me) speak of Macs - tenderly, lovingly, passionately. And they do love their Macs. Maybe not because it is the most stable or technologically advanced OS. No, they love it because of some strange "Think different" chemistry. And now I can see this kind of chemistry is working here. It could be said that Gnome has made it. If they have the chemistry, they will go far. Very far. L.
I agree, what else could I say?
:)
However much people dislike the idea, it has been now (at least partially) implemented, and nothing can take it back anymore. Thats, by the way, one of the key points of OS software. Whether it will suceed or not, is another matter. Being free to all doesnt guarantee going to the masses.
An extra cool feature of Freenet is that it gives me the same kind of feeling as W.Gibsons books
L.
Eee, nope. The Mac version of IE 4.5 is fast, stable and more standards compliant than the NS monster. Really, the only reason it should be handled with extreme care is the fact that it is MS. L.
Jon, then 15 years old, was contacted by the lawyer-firm Simonsen Musæus, who told him that Internett-links to
DeCSS had to be removed. Simultaneously, the MPA mobilized in the american court system. Their demands of
removal of links was first denied. But last week their demands were met in both California and New York.
Wasn't it that although posting the decrypto stuff on webpage was not to be, linking was not prohibited?
Right and wrong
I don't like idea of scientists having to listen to the religious leaders in this case either. Because I am an atheist. But many aren't. For many people, religion is both support and a moral guide and a thousand other things besides, so if this is really such a fundamental breakthrough and life in itself can be created in labs, their religion will either have to change or dissapear. So basically there will be a lot of bad blood. And by having a (hopefully) public discussion, things will have time to both settle down and settle in. In peoples minds that is.