"CFLs can be used in both hot and cold areas - just not to the extremes that incandescents can. CFLs can operate with a cold weather ballast as low as -23C (-10F)."
I've lived where winter temperatures didn't get that WARM for weeks on end.
So, now everyone who lives where there's real winter, and has an outdoor lighting need like livestock pens or barns, gets to have dark barns all winter.
And when they start dimming with age, check the ballast, as they can get hot enough to become a fire hazard.
I hate the damned things (and the fuzzy-edged off-colour light hurts my eyes) but use 'em where I can because it cuts down my power bill, which in SoCal works out to around $30/month for a 60W bulb that's in use 8 hours a day.
I've found their lifespan is random. The first one I bought lasted 6 or 7 years, that was the old big-coil type that only fit in one lamp. The newer ones... some last a long time, some don't, but it's certainly no better than the average for incandescents.
Meaning you have so few reliable cross-references that it's hard to tell when one or more of them are just Making Shit Up, or using Socrates as a generic character (which I gather was often done).
Sortof like reconstructing a dimly-remembered extinct species from a single minor bone.
Or think their users are so out of touch with the market that they'll pay it, OR perhaps are using those prices to actively discourage use.
Real Example: if you have a basic Earthlink dialup account it comes with eight 10mb webspaces (which was rational enough when the policy went into effect -- back about 1997). Know what it costs you if you need more space??
A dollar a meg per month, I shit you not. Yes, per MEGABYTE, not GB.
The same dollar will buy you somewhere around 20GB for a month at any regular webhosting company.
That's a good point -- often we don't know what was lost. Which means we don't even know to look for it. Sucks that the ancients abandoned the durability of stone tablets and switched all their data onto ephemeral media like vellum and papyrus.
...are those that come in perfectly legitimate email, stuff that I actively subscribed to. They already know where I came from, their own damned email. Why does it need to go through a redirecting clicktracker?
Furthermore, it lets even legit emails send me somewhere not only unanticipated but also a pain in the ass, like links that unexpectedly open a whopping great PDF.
Many thanks to folks who posted links to two URL de-obfuscator services, which are now permanently on my toolbar.
"Imagine, 50 years from now, a kid goes up to the attic and sees a Kindle with a cracked screen, broken navigation keys, and a dead battery. It is junk. Imagine the same kid in the attic uncovering boxes full of books, dozens of them, with pictures, diagrams, stories, plans, photos, etc. Which is the better outcome?"
Best example of the fundamental differences I've ever seen.
What uses UDP? and what version(s) of ZA? Asking cuz on this machine that does all my internet everything, I have ZoneAlarm-ancient (v2.1.something) and have not noticed any such problem. -- My policy has always been to use the simplest version that works, and in this case.. this is it.
True enough, but I think it's going to backfire on them -- by driving down the price of those chips by the $50 everyone knows they'll have to spend to get what they figure they really paid for.
I think they'd do their market a lot better by releasing a free tool that would helpfully upclock CPUs by as much as the chip can handle (at your own risk, of course). Then people would feel like they got more than they paid for (instead of feeling ripped off), and that always results in good word-of-mouth.
People generally prefer a gamble to a forced payout.
Sorry, that won't work on this machine... I was using Clibnabber but YT managed to block it again.
But this stuff is all first-year biochemistry. Truly, blaming fructose (in whatever delivery or concentration) is like blaming spoons because you ate all the ice cream.
I should be more clear: unless I can download the flash movie by itself, so I can play it offline, I can't see it.
But consider... thanks to the "healthy eating" craze, the general populace now eats probably 2 to 3 times as much fibre as we did a generation ago, and there is LESS sugar used in processing than there used to be (any quick perusal of average cereal products then and now will confirm that). What most people DON'T get enough of anymore are protein (as red meat, nothing else is quite balanced) and fat -- the real controls on long-term appetite. They DO get too many carbs, high-fibre or not.
BTW I wonder what percentage of Our Readers are overweight, yet eat lots of whole-grain this and sugar-free that? I still weigh the same as I did 35 years ago, and guess what... my diet revolves around red meat, with no fat restrictions, and I eat whatever sugar I wish (tho I don't crave it)... and very little fibre. And no, I'm not an anomaly -- I eat like everyone of my generation who didn't buy into the "healthy eating" craze. My mom is 80 and still weighs the same as she did at 25, and she's *typical* of what we all used to be. The fat kid was the one-and-only when I was in school; now you look around hoping to see a token skinny.
Oh, but we're eating all that added fibre nowadays, so it must be healthier!
... which appears to have been written somewhat tongue-in-cheek.
Also, it refers only to expended calories, not to ingested calories. Of course there is likely to be some difference in efficiency if one compares, say, calories ingested via the gastrointestinal tract vs those injected directly into a vein, which I understand is the preferred way to consume Mountain Dew.;)
Not really any different from what bees do, except harvesting honey is a dirty messy process, which is why it's normally filtered and sometimes pasteurized prior to being shipped to market. Bees suck up fruit sugars (nectar), assault it with whatever enzymes a bee uses (I'm too lazy to look it up this instant), remove the excess water, and barf it back up.
As to amalyse... what the other poster said. If you don't like it, best stop eating starch and drinking beer.:)
As to contaminants... I've worked in a honey house. If you could see honey at that stage -- liberally sprinkled with dead bees, dead spiders, dead wasps, decomposing bee larvae, random pollen and other allergens, the occasional mouse corpse, and fragments of dirt, wood, and rarely even mouse droppings -- you would NEVER eat the stuff.
Heh heh... I think we're in agreement about where we'll eat out, somewhere with steak and potatoes and... well, I'm not that fond of beer but it'll go fine with the women and song after dinner.;)
But first, I gotta go out to the barn and do the evening work. And then I'm gonna drink about a gallon of water, cuz it's still hot out there!
I believe I've read the abstract for that... one wonders what he thinks when he munches on an apple, which is pretty much nothing but fibre and fructose.
My own observation is that the population most likely to be obese is... those who eat a high-fibre diet, which by default means a high-carb diet. One theory on this (aside from what a high-carb diet does to your insulin balance, which in truth is the only point that matters here) is that with more fibre slowing down food passage, your gut has more time to break down and absorb sugars.
I think that is also a valid observation, and probably would make a good benchmark -- engineers who accept that nothing is quite perfect being the normals, whereas the unbalanced type are unable to accept that fact -- and can self-stress themselves into a breakdown, and worst case into some sort of vengeance (ie. terrorism) since clearly someone else is to blame for their mental stress.
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"CFLs can be used in both hot and cold areas - just not to the extremes that incandescents can. CFLs can operate with a cold weather ballast as low as -23C (-10F)."
I've lived where winter temperatures didn't get that WARM for weeks on end.
So, now everyone who lives where there's real winter, and has an outdoor lighting need like livestock pens or barns, gets to have dark barns all winter.
And when they start dimming with age, check the ballast, as they can get hot enough to become a fire hazard.
I hate the damned things (and the fuzzy-edged off-colour light hurts my eyes) but use 'em where I can because it cuts down my power bill, which in SoCal works out to around $30/month for a 60W bulb that's in use 8 hours a day.
I've found their lifespan is random. The first one I bought lasted 6 or 7 years, that was the old big-coil type that only fit in one lamp. The newer ones... some last a long time, some don't, but it's certainly no better than the average for incandescents.
And then they're shipped to China for processing, because US regulations make it cost-prohibitive to dismantle toxics.
I've had better luck with nailing a black rooster to my TV.
Meaning you have so few reliable cross-references that it's hard to tell when one or more of them are just Making Shit Up, or using Socrates as a generic character (which I gather was often done).
Sortof like reconstructing a dimly-remembered extinct species from a single minor bone.
Haha, that's a good point :)
Would kinda parallel "Life passed you by".
Or perhaps "You don't know what you're missing til you've tried it."
To rephrase the original objection in terms the average slashdotter better understands, "If linux didn't exist, would anybody miss it?"
And when you only have "selected sources" (those few that survived) it limits your perspective, as well as your objective knowledge.
If you're born blind, do you miss sight?
Or think their users are so out of touch with the market that they'll pay it, OR perhaps are using those prices to actively discourage use.
Real Example: if you have a basic Earthlink dialup account it comes with eight 10mb webspaces (which was rational enough when the policy went into effect -- back about 1997). Know what it costs you if you need more space??
A dollar a meg per month, I shit you not. Yes, per MEGABYTE, not GB.
The same dollar will buy you somewhere around 20GB for a month at any regular webhosting company.
...the Library at Alexandria...
And that's merely one we KNOW about. As someone else implies, who knows what else was lost that we don't even know ever existed??
That's a good point -- often we don't know what was lost. Which means we don't even know to look for it. Sucks that the ancients abandoned the durability of stone tablets and switched all their data onto ephemeral media like vellum and papyrus.
...are those that come in perfectly legitimate email, stuff that I actively subscribed to. They already know where I came from, their own damned email. Why does it need to go through a redirecting clicktracker?
Furthermore, it lets even legit emails send me somewhere not only unanticipated but also a pain in the ass, like links that unexpectedly open a whopping great PDF.
Many thanks to folks who posted links to two URL de-obfuscator services, which are now permanently on my toolbar.
http://unshorten.com/index.php
http://www.longurlplease.com/
Irony: The link from that page to http://www.longurlplease.com/ uses a redirector, albeit through mozilla.org.
"Imagine, 50 years from now, a kid goes up to the attic and sees a Kindle with a cracked screen, broken navigation keys, and a dead battery. It is junk. Imagine the same kid in the attic uncovering boxes full of books, dozens of them, with pictures, diagrams, stories, plans, photos, etc. Which is the better outcome?"
Best example of the fundamental differences I've ever seen.
What uses UDP? and what version(s) of ZA? Asking cuz on this machine that does all my internet everything, I have ZoneAlarm-ancient (v2.1.something) and have not noticed any such problem. -- My policy has always been to use the simplest version that works, and in this case.. this is it.
True enough, but I think it's going to backfire on them -- by driving down the price of those chips by the $50 everyone knows they'll have to spend to get what they figure they really paid for.
I think they'd do their market a lot better by releasing a free tool that would helpfully upclock CPUs by as much as the chip can handle (at your own risk, of course). Then people would feel like they got more than they paid for (instead of feeling ripped off), and that always results in good word-of-mouth.
People generally prefer a gamble to a forced payout.
Sorry, that won't work on this machine... I was using Clibnabber but YT managed to block it again.
But this stuff is all first-year biochemistry. Truly, blaming fructose (in whatever delivery or concentration) is like blaming spoons because you ate all the ice cream.
I should be more clear: unless I can download the flash movie by itself, so I can play it offline, I can't see it.
But consider... thanks to the "healthy eating" craze, the general populace now eats probably 2 to 3 times as much fibre as we did a generation ago, and there is LESS sugar used in processing than there used to be (any quick perusal of average cereal products then and now will confirm that). What most people DON'T get enough of anymore are protein (as red meat, nothing else is quite balanced) and fat -- the real controls on long-term appetite. They DO get too many carbs, high-fibre or not.
BTW I wonder what percentage of Our Readers are overweight, yet eat lots of whole-grain this and sugar-free that? I still weigh the same as I did 35 years ago, and guess what... my diet revolves around red meat, with no fat restrictions, and I eat whatever sugar I wish (tho I don't crave it) ... and very little fibre. And no, I'm not an anomaly -- I eat like everyone of my generation who didn't buy into the "healthy eating" craze. My mom is 80 and still weighs the same as she did at 25, and she's *typical* of what we all used to be. The fat kid was the one-and-only when I was in school; now you look around hoping to see a token skinny.
Oh, but we're eating all that added fibre nowadays, so it must be healthier!
And honey is expensive because the supply is limited, it is labour-intensive to produce, and working in a honey house often leads to madness. ;)
... which appears to have been written somewhat tongue-in-cheek.
Also, it refers only to expended calories, not to ingested calories. Of course there is likely to be some difference in efficiency if one compares, say, calories ingested via the gastrointestinal tract vs those injected directly into a vein, which I understand is the preferred way to consume Mountain Dew. ;)
Not really any different from what bees do, except harvesting honey is a dirty messy process, which is why it's normally filtered and sometimes pasteurized prior to being shipped to market. Bees suck up fruit sugars (nectar), assault it with whatever enzymes a bee uses (I'm too lazy to look it up this instant), remove the excess water, and barf it back up.
As to amalyse... what the other poster said. If you don't like it, best stop eating starch and drinking beer. :)
As to contaminants... I've worked in a honey house. If you could see honey at that stage -- liberally sprinkled with dead bees, dead spiders, dead wasps, decomposing bee larvae, random pollen and other allergens, the occasional mouse corpse, and fragments of dirt, wood, and rarely even mouse droppings -- you would NEVER eat the stuff.
Heh heh... I think we're in agreement about where we'll eat out, somewhere with steak and potatoes and ... well, I'm not that fond of beer but it'll go fine with the women and song after dinner. ;)
But first, I gotta go out to the barn and do the evening work. And then I'm gonna drink about a gallon of water, cuz it's still hot out there!
I believe I've read the abstract for that... one wonders what he thinks when he munches on an apple, which is pretty much nothing but fibre and fructose.
My own observation is that the population most likely to be obese is... those who eat a high-fibre diet, which by default means a high-carb diet. One theory on this (aside from what a high-carb diet does to your insulin balance, which in truth is the only point that matters here) is that with more fibre slowing down food passage, your gut has more time to break down and absorb sugars.
I think that is also a valid observation, and probably would make a good benchmark -- engineers who accept that nothing is quite perfect being the normals, whereas the unbalanced type are unable to accept that fact -- and can self-stress themselves into a breakdown, and worst case into some sort of vengeance (ie. terrorism) since clearly someone else is to blame for their mental stress.
The pigeon protocol is also subject to damage from external hawks, which can cause total packet loss.