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Bing Crosby, Television Sports Preservationist
Hugh Pickens submits news first gleaned from a now-paywalled article at the New York Times (and, happily, widely reported) that "The hunt for a copy of the seventh and deciding game of the 1960 World Series, considered one of the greatest games ever played and long believed to be lost forever, has come to an end in the home of Bing Crosby, a canny preservationist of his own legacy, who kept a half-century's worth of records, tapes and films in the wine cellar turned vault in his Hillsborough, California home. Crosby loved baseball, but as a part owner of the Pittsburgh Pirates he was too nervous to watch the Series against the Yankees, so he and his wife went to Paris, where they listened by radio. Crosby knew he would want to watch the game later — if his Pirates won — so he hired a company to record Game 7 by kinescope, an early relative of the DVR, filming off a television monitor. The five-reel set, found in December in Crosby's home, is the only known complete copy of the game, in which Pirates second baseman Bill Mazeroski hit a game-ending home run to beat the Yankees, 10-9."
Get him for piracy...
As soon as it was found, lawyers pounced on his estate and slapped him with a suit.
As soon as they figure out that this recording was made without the express written consent of Major League Baseball, Crosby's estate is going to be totally hosed.
I am so worried about ALL their games that I don't watch, it's just too painful :P
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Am I the only one who was confused by the title?
is one of the all time great World Series.
"I'd rather be a lightning rod than a seismometer." -Ken Kesey
1960 was a classic Series. It's right up there with 1955-6, 1986, 1996, and 2001 on my list for the all-time best.
It's amazing to realize how different program preservation policy was in the prime of 2" Ampex quad videotape. So much of historic significance has been lost -- and not just Doctor Who and the moon landings, either. British TV before 1978 is a Swiss cheese. American programming suffered as well -- there are huge chunks of The Tonight Show that just plain don't exist anymore. For a long time, possibly the greatest baseball game of all time (1956 WS game 5) was thought to be gone forever.
What with Google pushing something like 20 PB of data every day it kind of makes you wonder what's being done to ensure the long-term survival of the digital patrimony. I mean, I don't particularly give a damn whether the wingnuts' blogs and every video of a dog pooping on a baby makes it to the 22nd century, but isn't there some stuff worth saving? Who's taking that responsibility?
Upload a copy of the recording as a torrent, share with anyone who wants a copy, keep the torrent alive and the copy will not be lost again.
Just think about all the culture that would still be available to us today, if the technology to copy was wider spread and available when TV first appeared. We would have a complete collection of all the old Dr. Who episodes.
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Man, I love those old Crosby recordings, like "I Remember Dear" and "Moonlight Becomes You". And the "Road to..." pictures he did with Hope were some of the funniest, hippest movies of the era (especially "Road to Bali"). But as as person, he was a piece of shit. Worse as he got older.
That he saved some old recordings doesn't make him a pioneer of media preservationism as much as someone who wanted to have what other people couldn't have.
A "preservationist" is someone like Martin Scorsese who has worked tirelessly to make sure old celluloid films aren't lost. He's doing it to make sure others can get the kind of exposure to the history of our culture as shown in cinema.
When I was growing up, the local TV station, WGN-TV, had an amazing library of films and played at least two of them every day. There would be one a 9am and another after the evening news. Sometimes another after midnight. Everything from film noir to Busby Berkeley to Fellini (both dubbed and subbed). Howard Hawks, King Vidor, Walter Huston, Welles, Michael Powell, Billy Wilder, the Marx Bros, Kurosawa, Vittorio Di Sica. Even modern masterpieces like "Joe" or "Little Murders". Everything. Sometime in the early '80s, there must have been some change in the way they were licensed or something because those movies were replaced by back-to-back episodes of some lame TV show like Dallas or even worse. I got a remarkable education in cinema just from my local TV station. Now that's all gone. The cable stations that are dedicated to "classic" films aren't nearly so eclectic or comprehensive. When they went to commercial, the bumper music they used was "Take Five" by Dave Brubeck. Whenever I hear that song today all those images flood into my mind's eye. I'll always associate that 5/4 melody with the excitement of being exposed to another nugget of cinema greatness, curled up in a comfy chair in my parents' basement, watching an old Sylvania console TV.
When I was in college, I had campus job in the film school's archive. It was always slow, so I could project 16mm versions of foreign and avant-garde films, such as the work of Kenneth Anger, Michael Snow, Maya Deren, Bunuel, and my favorite Joseph Cornell (if you ever get a chance, see the film "Rose Hobard" actually projected on a screen. It's a mind-bender.
Sometimes I wonder about some young kid out there using the Internet to search out these films and to be exposed to cinema in the way I did, without effort, almost accidentally. With luck, Scorsese's foundation got to these works before the masters disintegrated beyond saving.
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So how long till its repeated weekly on ESPN Classic? I usually dont understand the appeal of watching old sports but the idea of seeing something before my time and before the era of recording and highlight reels is intriguing.
Saw this on the front page today... First time I got news before most other people in a newspaper instead of online... :-P
Couldn't we have had a spoiler alert?
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That's certainly a sad state of affairs when kids thing of Bing and they think of a search engine. Bing Crosby one of the greatest singers of all time playing second to a search engine. A nice Bing Crosby story out of the blue and a bit of sports history recovered. Reminds me of the recent discovery of the lost footage of Metropolis. Treasures are still out there it's nice to know.
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I just hope the guy stood still and no-one got up for candy.
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In 1960 they weren't getting paid extraordinary sums. Well, but no extraordinary. In 2002 dollars, it would be equivalent to $100,000 a year on average, with a team franchise value of a bit under $34 million, again, in 2002 adjusted dollars.
In 2001, the average was over $2 million, and the average franchise value was about $289 million.
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American programming suffered as well -- there are huge chunks of The Tonight Show that just plain don't exist anymore. For a long time, possibly the greatest baseball game of all time (1956 WS game 5) was thought to be gone forever. Nice post.this is my first time i visit here. http://www.worldpixelmile.com/
It doesn't really matter what a dick like you might think about it, it's something worth preserving because a lot of people at the time cared about it.
And it's news for nerds because it's amazing that a copy exists at all.
It's amazing?
So if long-lost footage of Mike Smith of Omaha, Nebraska jerking off and drinking Schlitz in his basement suddenly resurfaces, by your logic, that would also be slashdot worthy?
Your interest in such an event doesn't constitute a lot of people caring about it, so no.
Slashdot is the proper forum for random people finding shit they thought was lost?
Really?
Bing Crosby is hardly a random person. And a sports event that a lot of people cared about is hardly 'shit'. They way he recorded it is also rather novel.
Also, 2002 called with Scott Spezio's home run in Game 6.
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so - the Pirates were pirated?
Although - technically since he was the owner of the content - he shouldn't receive a take down notice - those bastard lawyers would trudge down to hell to bleed money out of him - but Bing is clearly in the sunny place so they won't be able to get to him -
To bad you couldn't get fucking lost. Permanently.
They weren't paid alot of money back then, and of all the sports, the statistics involved in Baseball make it the geekiest.
A "preservationist" is someone like Martin Scorsese who has worked tirelessly to make sure old celluloid films aren't lost.
Crosby was a major figure in the early days of magnetic tape recording. He wanted better audio for his Bing Crosby show, and used some early tape recorders based on the German Magnetophon. The engineers involved with the early recorders started Ampex, Crosby put in $50,000, and pro audio rapidly moved to tape. The Bing Crosby Show was the first show to be edited before broadcast, which tightened up the pacing and made it a hit show.
Ampex later went on to build the first videotape recorder in 1950, which was simply called "Crosby Video".
So Crosby definitely had a major role in the preservation of audio and video.
He was too nervous to watch the game - so he took a trip to Paris? Must be nice to have that kind of disposable income...
As a side note - although Fitzgerald originally wrote the line I used as the subject of this post, I always remember Hemingway's adaptation instead: "The rich are very different from you and I." "Yes - they have more money."
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The article is not paywalled, you just have to register to read it.
Wait, the Mike Smith of Omaha, NE? I thought that footage was lost for the ages.
He's also responsible for getting the recording technology in the US up to international standards, even experimentation with early video tape recording.
I think it is relevant because it is an example of the usefulness of recording by the public as part of the deal between a creator and society. A copyright holder has the right to stop anyone from using the material for a (ridiculous long) period of time. The reward for society of giving a copyright holder this power, is that in the end the work enters the public domain. What you see here, is that the copyright holder got his end of the bargain from society (it is not relevant whether he actually ever sued over it; he had the right to), society doesn't get anything once the copyright holder loses interest (or trashes the recording).
People should make a mental note of this when it comes to arguing the duration of copyright, and also when it comes to DRM. I don't think that copyright should apply to DRM material because there obviously is no guarantee that the work could end up in the public domain. More likely the DRM technique used is likely to be abandoned before the copyright expires.
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Who refuses to buy anything Blue-ray because of this.
... I have archived the 2004 Superbowl halftime show video.
Have gnu, will travel.
Bummer for Bing. He can't let anyone else copy it without being a pirate and, if his timing is off, he's in breech of copyright law (if the home recording act came in later) already.
And if someone DOES want to make copies, they'll have to track down the copyright owners (ALL of them) and, in current clime, get the agreement of ALL of them (even the dead ones or the ones that cannot be found) to have the copies made.
And pay through the nose for them (Despite the copyright owners not making a cent, if someone ELSE does, they're a PIRATE!!!!).
If I was him, I'd delete it now and apologise before the police kick down his door.
Good question: why do they want to keep copyright for so long on everything? It makes no sense, it's not as if they're going to make money off something they don't have any copies any more is it? And even if they still do have copies, if they're not selling, they're still not going to make any money off it, so why do people want to keep copyright on everything forever?
As the captca says "Absurd".
Hahaha, it's been a while since I saw someone with such a superiority complex. You must be an amazingly insecure individual. Enjoy.
I am pretty sure the name was not much of a concern, only now when "sensitivities" are the issue of the day. Now, since the talent in the game comes from all over the globe it has a good reason to use the name. Let alone the simple fact, they created it in 1903 who is to object? How does it offend people of other countries where baseball is not played at a similar level? If it does offend, then get over it, its a sporting event. Nothing to take offense at.
So, there you have it, they were first so they claimed whatever named appealed to them, out of tradition the name stays. Sometimes tradition is better than being correct.
* Winners compare their achievements to their goals, losers compare theirs to that of others.
And a sports event that a lot of people cared about is hardly 'shit'.
It's a pro sports event. A set of contracted employees playing a game against another set of contracted employees while a bunch of rubes watch and yell things like 'the sports team from my area is superior to the sports team from your area'.
People who "care" about professional sports - particularly one as parochial as baseball - must have a pretty easy life. You don't even know the players. They are not family; they are not friends. They are just some guys wearing a uniform.
All the employers/owners care about is getting your money by trying to tie your brain up in concepts of "team loyalty". The Onion's hilarious until you realise that otherwise reasonable, intelligent people "care" about pro sport.
It's ephemeral entertainment, not brain surgery.
if you ever get a chance, see the film "Rose Hobard" actually projected on a screen You may not be able to project it on a screen, but Rose Hobart is on YouTube: part 1 and part 2
Here's the end of game 7 of the 1960 World Series. One of the two greatest moments in Pittsburgh sports history; the other is of course the one at this link. (Not to sell any of the Super Bowl moments short, especially not this one.)
I did.
http://www.bing.com/search?q=crosby&go=&form=QBLH&qs=n&sk=
Now what?
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