Perhaps not coincidentally, MSN is also, of your list, the site LEAST likely to work with an unusual or older browser.
I use a lot of deprecated tags and structures myself -- because they work the same for EVERY visitor using ANY browser. If that makes my code 100% "invalid" -- oh well!! Validators don't read websites anyway!
Validation software doesn't read websites. Real people, using real browsers, read websites.
So if it were my site, I'd care very little about how many validation errors it has, and a great deal about how it ACTUALLY looks to REAL users, using a wide variety of REAL browsers.
And I don't think it's coincidence that the NYTimes site also functions perfectly in a TEXT-ONLY browser.
Herby remarks, "And all those sites (well, 95% anyway) are financed by Google, another monopoly."
That's an interesting point. If the advertising revenue from Google and its kin weren't AVAILABLE to domain tasters and short-term squatters, those aspects of the problem would vanish overnight.
So, my challenge to Google et al.: Find a way to ensure that your ads are being delivered ONLY to stable, non-tasted domains. I'd think this part could be accomplished simply by checking the WHOIS info for the first-date-registered for each domain that Google delivers ads to.
Require that the domain be in existence for even as little as 30 days before delivering ads -- thus the ad-mongering domain-taster is FORCED to pay for the whole year if they want to run ads at all, since the 5-day return period is long gone.
It's not much against the whole, but ANYTHING that makes domain tasting unprofitable will help.
And what about large legit mailing lists? There are plenty with over 10,000 recipients, and I've heard of some with over 200,000 recipients. With a delay-per-mail scheme, such large lists could take hours or even DAYS to send.
How is it fair to punish ANY fraction of the legitimate users for the sins of the abusers??
And so, in answer to the question: how much does it cost to end domain tasting?
The answer is: $1,284 per domain.
The maths was provided to the Board a fortnight ago by Senior Vice President Kurt Pritz. From the minutes: Kurt Pritz indicated that presently ICANN charges a 20-cent fee on every registration that lasts longer than five days (i.e., not a tasted name). Tasted names comprise more than 95% of all registrations, only 1 name in 20 "sticks".
Registrars that exclusively taste and do not register "regular" names delete 99.5% of names during the AGP (1 in 200 (0.5%) "stick").
If a 20-cent fee is attached to each of the deleted names for these registrars the apparent price of each name that sticks increases from $6.42 to $6.42 + 0.20 * 199 or $46.22. With the new fee, a name will have to be worth $1,284 in
the point-and-click market (as opposed to $6.43*) to be kept. In practice, this will serve to further reduce the percentage of names kept and therefore will increase the apparent price even more.
So... their estimate is that a domain name has to be worth over $1,284 in ad revenue before it's worth keeping.
Which would take a big bite out of the "squat everything in sight" market.
There are people who "confess" to crimes to get attention, just as there are people who run to the emergency room with imaginary diseases or injuries. Cops and emergency rooms wind up with lists of such people and learn to ignore them, or humour them if they're not pressed for time.
Also, I read somewhere else that the 8 people Sturgeon claims to have killed are all still alive and well, which throws doubt on his veracity and sanity.
Legal process aside, ISTM you don't really want your friend (former or not) the confessed murderer OR evident lunatic testifying in your defense; it makes you look at best a fellow loon, at worst someone who likewise approves of murder.
If I remember right, California also does an *automatic* appeal process for death penalty cases. Someone who actually knows may want to pipe up here...
I've only been called a couple times, but rejected because I know too many lawyers, including a friend's dad and my occasional business partner's brother.
But I think it does pervert the concept -- no longer are the people at large responsible to the verdict, but rather only the people they WANT.
BTW here they take volunteers for Grand Jury duty, and apparently have a waiting list, mainly of retired folks.
As others mention, "habeus corpus" refers to the *defendant* being present, not the corpse.
In addition to points others made, the principle of habeus corpus is to prevent you from being convicted in absentia, with no chance to face your accuser or present your case.
Damn, I'd forgotten all about that, and I've slept in Ramblers. Man, we are OLD.:)
I didn't really have an opinion til I read some of Reiser's defense statements. Yeah, right. I really believe all that BS. "If the car does not fit, you must acquit!!"
The more geeky question that comes to me now is... do I trust his FS? Because IMO, we sure can't trust the man himself.
Re Sturgeon, here's my opinion (with no force of law):
Calling him for the defense wouldn't be smart; you don't want your client seen as the *known associate* of a mass murderer, NOR of a nut who CLAIMS to murder people. Either way, it makes your client's veracity look even more questionable.
Calling him for the prosection has similar problems.
Indeed, sometimes it's all that saves us from mob rule. Note also that it's the mob who are most in favour of removing any check to mob rule. For an example of what then results, examine the "terror" during the French Revolution.
Remember that in the Britain of a couple centuries ago, sodomy carried the death sentence.
That's right -- merely being caught acting as an ordinary, nonviolent homosexual got you hanged. (Interested parties may wish to peruse http://www.infopt.demon.co.uk/homopho1.htm )
Don't think it couldn't happen again. If that morality pendulum starts swinging, it never stops til it reaches the farthest possible extreme.
Too late. There was an article here on/. a few days ago, about WRITTEN kiddie porn being illegal. Never mind that no real children were involved, and no photos of real or cartoon children (cartoon kiddie porn is illegal too... I guess those underage pixels really suffer when the cartoon is made).
Mere written words. No real children.
So yes, there are already books being banned for being the "wrong" kind of porn; it'll just take a while for a ban on "violent porn" to trickle down to the written word.
Yeah, I RTFA [hangs head in shame] and reached the same conclusion -- it's probably just a collection of standard hacker tools, with a few handy scripts to do the grunt work for you.
Hell, it may be just the Hacking Exposed collection (available for Windows and Linux) plus some scripts. BTW those are wonderful books for anyone with even a casual interest in security!
Someone mod parent up; I don't know how accurate the parent AC is, but it's an interesting perspective.
Thanks to all for the various opinions... LIS I don't know anything about Metallica's history, so it's interesting to hear what their fans have to say about their music vs. their attitudes. Sounds like overall they'd been losing relevance, and chose to blame filesharing when they found themselves bottomed out.
Oh yeah. More than any other site, MySpace made impossibly busy, crowded, overlong, and bloated design "acceptable", at least among its users. Unfortunately, its users tended to be the up and coming generations (whether of techies, business types, or whatever) who tend to control the *appearance* of marketing materials. And make no mistake, most businesses regard the web is a marketing brochure first and foremost.
It's still 12 points if you PRINT it. But 10 or 12 pixels per letter on the screen is a lot smaller at 1600x1200 than it is at 800x600. Witness lettering on application menus -- large at 800x600, much smaller at 1600x1200.
I don't know why this is so hard to comprehend; maybe it's that most YOUNG people nowadays have never used a screen at a resolution below 1024x768, if that low.
Yep... a net loss, if you look beyond the immediate feelgood crap, it proves a net loss.
On a related note, I read all the fine print for CA's recent "alternate energy" bills. Turns out they were nothing more than welfare (at the expense of customers of traditional energy companies) for alt-energy companies that can't make it on their own. Yeah, sometimes a new venture needs a leg up to get started, but anything that needs permanent subsidies, or that can only succeed at someone else's expense, is too flawed to support.
In this California, Joe Sixpack has already seen his cost to commute to work (which he has little choice about, because homes and work are seldom anywhere near each other) skyrocket -- from about $100/month to almost $400/month in just the past two years. Joe Sixpack is already plenty incentivized, but has no alternative -- jobs are not to be had on every streetcorner, unless you can feed your family on $7/hour and don't mind competing with an endless supply of illegal aliens. And public transit (which isn't much cheaper anymore) doesn't serve everyone or every location, let alone at the hours your employer dictates you will be present.
My kennel produces 50 pounds a day of used dog food, which is largely corn. The stable down the road produces a couple tons of used hay every day. I'm wondering if a small-scale convertor would be useful here... the problem of course in animal waste is the high nitrogen content, which tends to variously eat the container, or explode.
So it would make more sense to use farm *waste*, rather than farm *products*.
You could use feedlot waste, foodcrop chaff beyond what's needed to plow back into the soil, weeds which ordinarily would be burned, etc. And it seems to me that the junk leftover from the ethanol-brewing process could be recycled as soil conditioner, livestock supplements, and fertilizer, so you wouldn't be entirely losing the nutrients that current farm-waste-disposal methods put back into the soil.
And a lot of such sites have NO option to "view/print as a single page", either!
I think Renegade88 has a point, tho -- it's not so much that bloggers caused it, but blogsites and socialnet sites (like *shudder* MySpace) made it *acceptable* to have pages of endless length.
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Perhaps not coincidentally, MSN is also, of your list, the site LEAST likely to work with an unusual or older browser.
I use a lot of deprecated tags and structures myself -- because they work the same for EVERY visitor using ANY browser. If that makes my code 100% "invalid" -- oh well!! Validators don't read websites anyway!
Validation software doesn't read websites. Real people, using real browsers, read websites.
So if it were my site, I'd care very little about how many validation errors it has, and a great deal about how it ACTUALLY looks to REAL users, using a wide variety of REAL browsers.
And I don't think it's coincidence that the NYTimes site also functions perfectly in a TEXT-ONLY browser.
Herby remarks, "And all those sites (well, 95% anyway) are financed by Google, another monopoly."
That's an interesting point. If the advertising revenue from Google and its kin weren't AVAILABLE to domain tasters and short-term squatters, those aspects of the problem would vanish overnight.
So, my challenge to Google et al.: Find a way to ensure that your ads are being delivered ONLY to stable, non-tasted domains. I'd think this part could be accomplished simply by checking the WHOIS info for the first-date-registered for each domain that Google delivers ads to.
Require that the domain be in existence for even as little as 30 days before delivering ads -- thus the ad-mongering domain-taster is FORCED to pay for the whole year if they want to run ads at all, since the 5-day return period is long gone.
It's not much against the whole, but ANYTHING that makes domain tasting unprofitable will help.
And what about large legit mailing lists? There are plenty with over 10,000 recipients, and I've heard of some with over 200,000 recipients. With a delay-per-mail scheme, such large lists could take hours or even DAYS to send.
How is it fair to punish ANY fraction of the legitimate users for the sins of the abusers??
So... their estimate is that a domain name has to be worth over $1,284 in ad revenue before it's worth keeping.
Which would take a big bite out of the "squat everything in sight" market.
There are people who "confess" to crimes to get attention, just as there are people who run to the emergency room with imaginary diseases or injuries. Cops and emergency rooms wind up with lists of such people and learn to ignore them, or humour them if they're not pressed for time.
Also, I read somewhere else that the 8 people Sturgeon claims to have killed are all still alive and well, which throws doubt on his veracity and sanity.
Legal process aside, ISTM you don't really want your friend (former or not) the confessed murderer OR evident lunatic testifying in your defense; it makes you look at best a fellow loon, at worst someone who likewise approves of murder.
If I remember right, California also does an *automatic* appeal process for death penalty cases. Someone who actually knows may want to pipe up here...
That's an impressive record of failure :)
I've only been called a couple times, but rejected because I know too many lawyers, including a friend's dad and my occasional business partner's brother.
But I think it does pervert the concept -- no longer are the people at large responsible to the verdict, but rather only the people they WANT.
BTW here they take volunteers for Grand Jury duty, and apparently have a waiting list, mainly of retired folks.
As others mention, "habeus corpus" refers to the *defendant* being present, not the corpse.
In addition to points others made, the principle of habeus corpus is to prevent you from being convicted in absentia, with no chance to face your accuser or present your case.
Damn, I'd forgotten all about that, and I've slept in Ramblers. Man, we are OLD. :)
I didn't really have an opinion til I read some of Reiser's defense statements. Yeah, right. I really believe all that BS. "If the car does not fit, you must acquit!!"
The more geeky question that comes to me now is... do I trust his FS? Because IMO, we sure can't trust the man himself.
Re Sturgeon, here's my opinion (with no force of law):
Calling him for the defense wouldn't be smart; you don't want your client seen as the *known associate* of a mass murderer, NOR of a nut who CLAIMS to murder people. Either way, it makes your client's veracity look even more questionable.
Calling him for the prosection has similar problems.
Indeed, sometimes it's all that saves us from mob rule. Note also that it's the mob who are most in favour of removing any check to mob rule. For an example of what then results, examine the "terror" during the French Revolution.
Remember that in the Britain of a couple centuries ago, sodomy carried the death sentence.
That's right -- merely being caught acting as an ordinary, nonviolent homosexual got you hanged. (Interested parties may wish to peruse http://www.infopt.demon.co.uk/homopho1.htm )
Don't think it couldn't happen again. If that morality pendulum starts swinging, it never stops til it reaches the farthest possible extreme.
Too late. There was an article here on /. a few days ago, about WRITTEN kiddie porn being illegal. Never mind that no real children were involved, and no photos of real or cartoon children (cartoon kiddie porn is illegal too ... I guess those underage pixels really suffer when the cartoon is made).
Mere written words. No real children.
So yes, there are already books being banned for being the "wrong" kind of porn; it'll just take a while for a ban on "violent porn" to trickle down to the written word.
Yeah, I RTFA [hangs head in shame] and reached the same conclusion -- it's probably just a collection of standard hacker tools, with a few handy scripts to do the grunt work for you.
Hell, it may be just the Hacking Exposed collection (available for Windows and Linux) plus some scripts. BTW those are wonderful books for anyone with even a casual interest in security!
Someone mod parent up; I don't know how accurate the parent AC is, but it's an interesting perspective.
Thanks to all for the various opinions... LIS I don't know anything about Metallica's history, so it's interesting to hear what their fans have to say about their music vs. their attitudes. Sounds like overall they'd been losing relevance, and chose to blame filesharing when they found themselves bottomed out.
Oh yeah. More than any other site, MySpace made impossibly busy, crowded, overlong, and bloated design "acceptable", at least among its users. Unfortunately, its users tended to be the up and coming generations (whether of techies, business types, or whatever) who tend to control the *appearance* of marketing materials. And make no mistake, most businesses regard the web is a marketing brochure first and foremost.
Me, I try to never go near the place.
It's still 12 points if you PRINT it. But 10 or 12 pixels per letter on the screen is a lot smaller at 1600x1200 than it is at 800x600. Witness lettering on application menus -- large at 800x600, much smaller at 1600x1200.
I don't know why this is so hard to comprehend; maybe it's that most YOUNG people nowadays have never used a screen at a resolution below 1024x768, if that low.
Yep... a net loss, if you look beyond the immediate feelgood crap, it proves a net loss.
On a related note, I read all the fine print for CA's recent "alternate energy" bills. Turns out they were nothing more than welfare (at the expense of customers of traditional energy companies) for alt-energy companies that can't make it on their own. Yeah, sometimes a new venture needs a leg up to get started, but anything that needs permanent subsidies, or that can only succeed at someone else's expense, is too flawed to support.
In this California, Joe Sixpack has already seen his cost to commute to work (which he has little choice about, because homes and work are seldom anywhere near each other) skyrocket -- from about $100/month to almost $400/month in just the past two years. Joe Sixpack is already plenty incentivized, but has no alternative -- jobs are not to be had on every streetcorner, unless you can feed your family on $7/hour and don't mind competing with an endless supply of illegal aliens. And public transit (which isn't much cheaper anymore) doesn't serve everyone or every location, let alone at the hours your employer dictates you will be present.
Before you whine about how spread out we are, I was astonished to learn that Los Angeles has HIGHER average housing density than New York City. http://www.numbersusa.com/interests/urbansprawl.html
My kennel produces 50 pounds a day of used dog food, which is largely corn. The stable down the road produces a couple tons of used hay every day. I'm wondering if a small-scale convertor would be useful here... the problem of course in animal waste is the high nitrogen content, which tends to variously eat the container, or explode.
5 million tons of sugar means how many tons of sugar cane WASTE that might be convertable to fuel?
So it would make more sense to use farm *waste*, rather than farm *products*.
You could use feedlot waste, foodcrop chaff beyond what's needed to plow back into the soil, weeds which ordinarily would be burned, etc. And it seems to me that the junk leftover from the ethanol-brewing process could be recycled as soil conditioner, livestock supplements, and fertilizer, so you wouldn't be entirely losing the nutrients that current farm-waste-disposal methods put back into the soil.
And a lot of such sites have NO option to "view/print as a single page", either!
I think Renegade88 has a point, tho -- it's not so much that bloggers caused it, but blogsites and socialnet sites (like *shudder* MySpace) made it *acceptable* to have pages of endless length.