There's all sorts of documentation on the fact that PETA collects every pet they can lay hands on, not just the "unadoptables". This whole story came to light because they scammed someone into placing a nice pet, and that person then followed up...and discovered a whole bunch of nice pets being solicited for adoption then killed, rather than being placed. PETA actually went to pet owners and veterinarians and talked them into handing over their pets -- these weren't just strays and turn-ins.
What's driving them to kill these nice pets instead of rehome them? As someone above pointed out, PETA believes animals are better off dead than associating with man. They don't love animals, they hate people.
They're like the serial murderer who believes he's sending his victims "to a better place".
"Animal rights" isn't about rights for animals. It's about making sure humans have no rights over animals. If you define an animal as equal in rights to a person, then owning an animal is slavery, and the animal has the right to sue you in court (albeit represented by a human...selected by an AR interest). That makes owning an animal too dangerous from a legal standpoint, and THAT is the goal of all these attempts to achieve legal "personhood" for animals.
But for the benefit of animals? Not hardly.
Incidentally HSUS is just PETA in a nice suit. Same beliefs in a more socially-acceptable wrapper and armed with better lobbyists.
It has nothing to do with the bodies, or the fact that they disposed of them illegally. It has to do with the deaths that provided so many bodies to dispose of.
An average dog pound euthanizes around 10% of their intake. Explain why PETA euthanizes over 90% of theirs.
Since it's less enjoyable, maybe that goads the male into leaving and finding another female, thus spreading his genes further than if he'd found a compatible female on the first attempt.
For that, one should look not in the water, but at the shift in diet to include a great deal more soy and flaxseed products (and flaxseed has 3x the level of phytoestrogens AND is more readily absorbed from the gut):
And as I speculate above, are they controlling for phytoestrogens released by the decay of aquatic plant life? which in lakes tends to increase over time with the natural decline of a lake into a swamp. (Unless dredged out by humans.)
And my next question is... how do levels of estrogen secondary to human wastewater compare to levels of phytoestrogens released into the water by native plants? Cuz I'm wondering if that might be the real story, especially with lakes late in their natural lifecycle where they are filling up with silt and weeds (no human intervention required, tho dredging by humans has sometimes delayed it).
Sounds like not much worse than if one of these liquid sodium solar plants went kapoof, maybe less as you'd expect the hydrogen to evaporate, whereas sodium will react with whatever it touches.
Seems to me smart design assumes a meltdown and keeps the supporting structures a good earth birm away from the fusion bottle, so you only have to replace half the plant.
This isn't actually about getting rights for chimps. It's about getting them declared people so that animal rights groups can sue other people (specifically the chimps' owners) on behalf of the chimps. Once established, this will trickle down to include all animals, thus to make pet ownership too legally risky, since anyone could sue you on behalf of your pet. (Ditto raising livestock.) Yet another step in the ARs' avowed goal of ending animal ownership and use.
Sounds to me like what this needs for containment (which works when unpowered) is collapsed matter, or perhaps a solid mass of neutrons. Best get busy on that new research project.
How much energy does it take to maintain the magnetic containment? How does this compare to the energy output that can be captured from the fusion reaction? (Uncapturable energy doesn't count; it's a waste product. And where does it go?)
If that exceeds the value of the fusion energy, is it possible to bootstrap this into something that produces net energy?
I suspect it may be more "Justifying our jobs", since these invasive policies seem to come from TLA bureaucracies rather than from those actually in charge.
Sounds interesting... But is there any such thing as a text-UI smartphone?
I've got a ZTE Awe that's up for experiments, as the phone is of no use to me glued to Virgin Mobile and it's worth very little on the used market. Any thoughts on what I might try with it?
I had the same thought. What happens if this spills over into the countries bordering the current hot zone?
I've long since decided it's best to just let them kill each other and get it over with. All that's happened from our efforts to suppress it is that the moment our backs are turned, they resume killing one another with more zeal than before.
But how can I find bugs that affect normal use if I'm not using it in a normal manner?
I've got nothing against a test build reporting everything I *do*, such as save a file; that's the whole idea. I do have a problem with them collecting info on what that file contains; that's none of their business.
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There's all sorts of documentation on the fact that PETA collects every pet they can lay hands on, not just the "unadoptables". This whole story came to light because they scammed someone into placing a nice pet, and that person then followed up...and discovered a whole bunch of nice pets being solicited for adoption then killed, rather than being placed. PETA actually went to pet owners and veterinarians and talked them into handing over their pets -- these weren't just strays and turn-ins.
What's driving them to kill these nice pets instead of rehome them? As someone above pointed out, PETA believes animals are better off dead than associating with man. They don't love animals, they hate people.
They're like the serial murderer who believes he's sending his victims "to a better place".
"Animal rights" isn't about rights for animals. It's about making sure humans have no rights over animals. If you define an animal as equal in rights to a person, then owning an animal is slavery, and the animal has the right to sue you in court (albeit represented by a human...selected by an AR interest). That makes owning an animal too dangerous from a legal standpoint, and THAT is the goal of all these attempts to achieve legal "personhood" for animals.
But for the benefit of animals? Not hardly.
Incidentally HSUS is just PETA in a nice suit. Same beliefs in a more socially-acceptable wrapper and armed with better lobbyists.
It has nothing to do with the bodies, or the fact that they disposed of them illegally. It has to do with the deaths that provided so many bodies to dispose of.
An average dog pound euthanizes around 10% of their intake. Explain why PETA euthanizes over 90% of theirs.
quantaman says: "Of all the things PETA is guilty of being callous towards animals is not one of them."
Really??
https://www.petakillsanimals.c...
This isn't something that was made up by their detractors. It's cold hard facts PETA left in a dumpster for all the world to see.
Documentation:
https://www.petakillsanimals.c...
But PETA gives a lot of money to outfits like ALF that *are* terrorist organizations. Starter kit:
http://archive.adl.org/learn/e...
http://news.heartland.org/news...
https://www.petakillsanimals.c...
Since it's less enjoyable, maybe that goads the male into leaving and finding another female, thus spreading his genes further than if he'd found a compatible female on the first attempt.
For that, one should look not in the water, but at the shift in diet to include a great deal more soy and flaxseed products (and flaxseed has 3x the level of phytoestrogens AND is more readily absorbed from the gut):
http://web.archive.org/web/201...
And as I speculate above, are they controlling for phytoestrogens released by the decay of aquatic plant life? which in lakes tends to increase over time with the natural decline of a lake into a swamp. (Unless dredged out by humans.)
And my next question is... how do levels of estrogen secondary to human wastewater compare to levels of phytoestrogens released into the water by native plants? Cuz I'm wondering if that might be the real story, especially with lakes late in their natural lifecycle where they are filling up with silt and weeds (no human intervention required, tho dredging by humans has sometimes delayed it).
Sounds like not much worse than if one of these liquid sodium solar plants went kapoof, maybe less as you'd expect the hydrogen to evaporate, whereas sodium will react with whatever it touches.
Seems to me smart design assumes a meltdown and keeps the supporting structures a good earth birm away from the fusion bottle, so you only have to replace half the plant.
Thanks, I think learned something today. (Well, that's why I asked!)
This isn't actually about getting rights for chimps. It's about getting them declared people so that animal rights groups can sue other people (specifically the chimps' owners) on behalf of the chimps. Once established, this will trickle down to include all animals, thus to make pet ownership too legally risky, since anyone could sue you on behalf of your pet. (Ditto raising livestock.) Yet another step in the ARs' avowed goal of ending animal ownership and use.
Outfits like Greenpeace and PETA don't want to save the Earth, nor do they love animals. They want to destroy humanity, and they hate people.
Definitely sounds expensive. :(
So what does it do to the surrounding environment when it melts the reactor?
Sounds to me like what this needs for containment (which works when unpowered) is collapsed matter, or perhaps a solid mass of neutrons. Best get busy on that new research project.
Seriously, would something like that work?
So what happens when (not if) the magnetic containment fails?
I had a similar thought:
How much energy does it take to maintain the magnetic containment? How does this compare to the energy output that can be captured from the fusion reaction? (Uncapturable energy doesn't count; it's a waste product. And where does it go?)
If that exceeds the value of the fusion energy, is it possible to bootstrap this into something that produces net energy?
I suspect it may be more "Justifying our jobs", since these invasive policies seem to come from TLA bureaucracies rather than from those actually in charge.
Bulk supply, starting at $33 each:
http://www.alibaba.com/trade/s...
Sounds interesting... But is there any such thing as a text-UI smartphone?
I've got a ZTE Awe that's up for experiments, as the phone is of no use to me glued to Virgin Mobile and it's worth very little on the used market. Any thoughts on what I might try with it?
TFA led me to this list of interesting studies:
http://faculty.washington.edu/...
I had the same thought. What happens if this spills over into the countries bordering the current hot zone?
I've long since decided it's best to just let them kill each other and get it over with. All that's happened from our efforts to suppress it is that the moment our backs are turned, they resume killing one another with more zeal than before.
But how can I find bugs that affect normal use if I'm not using it in a normal manner?
I've got nothing against a test build reporting everything I *do*, such as save a file; that's the whole idea. I do have a problem with them collecting info on what that file contains; that's none of their business.
--signed, the beta tester who can break anything