I am happy with the way estrogen makes me feel. I am happy with the way others treat me when they gender me female. If you want to call me male, I think I could adjust to being happy with that. Medical science will blur that black and white line between cosmetic surgery and gender change soon. Keep in mind that my breasts are fully functional. If it were available and affordable to me, I would love to have a complete female reproductive system implanted and my male one completely excised. That would brings things into alignment and solve so many semantic problems. I complain about circumcision pain, but I do not care if menstrual pain is worse on some sterile pain scale. It would be right; therefore it could not possibly be worse.
I could have children if that were available. I might like to have a child or two, grown in my own body.
Whether I'm a man or woman, I wish that feminism would stop trying to deny me access to the meds I need to live in peace with my body and without disturbing, excruciating circumcision pain.
Thank you for the reply. This is fascinating. It's probably too late to hope for an upmod. I really can't debate any of these points, other than to make the point that I don't think leaf blowers have ever exceeded maybe 70db in my exposure to them. Your points also cover that. There is a general trend towards noise and light pollution I wish we could do something about.
Your comment is oblig but I'll respond anyway. The point is that the SJWs have caused transphobia to snowball so far out of control I am now being denied medical care locally. I try to find a new doctor since the old one retired, and I get the runaround.
Is it because I'm a man and am being held accountable for what a gaslighting asshole manager did to a female programmer at my employer? Am I being held accountable for what a loudmouth doctor kept going on about that was seriously pissing off the committee? Am I being held accountable for the way the cisfemales in the accounting department distorted information to me that impacted my estimate? Is it a feminist objection or just a run of the mill religious objection? Combination of both?
I only have my meds until the end of March.
I did go too far with GP. What will happen without my meds is extremely distressing to me. Hint: they're not just cosmetic when they also have the side effect of preventing me from experiencing physical circumcision pain. If I cannot continue my meds, I am prepared to take drastic measures to ensure I will not begin experiencing excruciating pain again.
I am fucking sick and tired of paying for your healthcare. Really, I am.
Next week I have to drive 150 miles away to see a doctor because of ignorant twats like you. I will have to pay CASH. I have been paying CASH.
Feminism and cisgendered women have declared cold war with me, so apparently I'm on punishment and can no longer see a local doctor. I run out of meds at the end of March so I don't have time to screw around and figure out what the transgender protocol of the month is and what fucking excuse I'm going to get for why I can't get more meds before I run out.
Now apparently, there's a sizable portion of cisgendered men who have declared cold war with me as well on the assumption that being trans gives me all kinds of intangible privileges, which is no different from the reason feminism and cisgendered women are at cold war with me.
You hate me because I'm a woman. Cisgendered women hate me because I'm a man. Every single one of you cisgendered fuckholes out there can go kill yourselves for all I care.
There, I used cisgendered as a derogatory term. I hope that enhances your day.
You're absolutely correct. That's because generally trans men can just be men without assholes like you needing to act like trans folks get special privileges.
Do you have any fucking clue what you just wrote?
Transsexual boy: A person assigned the female gender at birth living as a boy. Brangelina's son would be an example last I heard.
Transsexual girl: A person assigned the male gender at birth living as a girl. This is what you thought you were talking about, but you're just a stupid willfully ignorant cunt.
Your point about this story being stupid stands.
Disclaimer: The term transsexual has been deprecated and is only used by feminists and other willfully ignorant bigots like 110010001000 who have victimhood complexes.
I'm a bit late to this discussion, but I don't get it. What's the problem leaf blowers pose? You know they have electrical ones, right?
I don't personally use a leaf blower, but I've never been bothered with the noise from two-stroke petrol leaf blowers. It's just a part of fall. Next you're going to tell me that four-stroke petrol little trucks with snow plows are also a noise problem. What about the big diesel snow plows?
However, the noise from HughPickens.com might need some remedying...
You seem to have completely missed my point. Congratulations.
Here are your options, given that you have a dick:
1.) Be a cisgendered male. You may be able to befriend some lesbians.
2.) Be a trans woman. You will be considered a metaphysical rapist and an invader by lesbians. You may be able to be "in lesbians" with another trans woman, but this will not grant you any legitimacy with cisgendered lesbians.
3.) Be a gay man. You will be considered a misogynist by lesbians.
#1 is the only way you won't be involved in the cold war feminism has declared.
Disclaimer: there are no free Obamacare sex changes. If you cut your dick off, you will likely bleed to death. Bottom surgery costs roughly $10,000--probably more. This is an entirely out-of-pocket expense.
Please ask me to have a coffee with you some time. All though, I might prefer a green tea, so I hope you won't be offended at that. As far as coffee goes, I prefer Colombian beans.
Please also note the low rank of trans women in the Oppression Olympics.
Consider Brianna Wu. In order for her victimization skit to work, she had to reject her nature as a trans person who has lived as both genders.
We hate trans women. It doesn't matter if you're an MRA or a feminist, we fucking hate trans women and want them to die.
Thus was born the 'non-binary gender-fluid, pansexual transracial somethingsomething and a toaster too', fresh off of tumblr.
Your problem is that you're reading tumblr. Remember when/b used to be good?
Please also note the status of otherkin being in the Special Oppression Olympics. That's not to diss the real Special Olympics. I enjoy a healthy and capable body, and if I weren't busy drinking myself to death, I'd probably be training to compete in the Iron Mountain (100 mile) Marathon. I really do feel for those who have disabilities. I wish they could run like the wind with me. Perhaps in the Summerland.
I get the threat from "SJWs." I want to ally to crush them, because they are morally and ethically deleterious. Yet, because I'm trans, you've already targeted me as an assassination target in the war with SJWs.
Warning: any Michigan Militia who sets foot on my property, despite the fact that I stand for what you stand for and want a revolution, will be fatally shot on sight. This is the nature of war. War never changes. You've declared war on me. It's a cold war at the moment, but I wasn't born yesterday. I hate that I am at war with you. Yet, you declared it, and my reaction is necessary to ensure the safety of those I care about.
Of course, all things gender and sexuality become confused with my current absurd situation. I am attracted to men, and I have a female mind and soul and a male reproductive system. Thus, I, from time to time, become attracted to men I know through my roles obtained by playing the feminist game and presenting as male for business purposes.
Yes, it was a "homosexual" attraction I felt. I think perhaps that the reason I felt creeped out is that I was running my male simulation program one might say. That program is not sufficient to install in me male sexuality. Thus, the conflict.
(Why am I at cold war with feminism? Ask them. I don't know. I don't even fucking understand it. They're the ones who called me and every other trans woman out there a rapist and an impostor, and they're the ones who mesmerized the rest of you into believing their lies with economic consequences for anyone with a clitoris two millimeters too big. Why are lesbians screaming at my friends in public that they're not real women because their breasts aren't large enough and because they've been poisoned by testosterone? I don't fucking know. We should be allies, but they've declared war with you as an ally and there's nothing else to do.)
I've encountered the "SJW" phenomenon in real life multiple times. SJW is a poor term to describe this phenomenon of "two wrongs make a right" thinking.
Basically, it boils down to an application of another loaded term reverse discrimination.
I've said before that one of the reasons I'm at cold war with feminism at the moment is because I like to eat and have a roof over my head, I've been involved in various situations that appear to a naive observer to constitute hatred of women on my part.
"I've" "shut down" a women's health initiative, thus "I want to control women's bodies." I mean, WTF. I did the maths with cisgendered women at my company attempting to mislead me even to get the greatest number of women mammograms despite a shrinking budget and Obamacare obviating the program. Yet I'm blamed for ending it, because I'm the convenient person who was assigned the male gender at birth that said that we couldn't provide the number of mammograms that Susan G. Komen wanted with the presented budget. It simply wasn't financially possible. The program ended, in budget, and I get blamed for things beyond my control by sexists.
"I'm" responsible for the sexual harassment (is there an anti-scare quote I can use? this was a very serious incident, and personally i'd like to have the balls of the man responsible for it mounted above my fireplace) of a bright young woman who was becoming an excellent programmer. Why? I'm the convenient assigned male who was involved. I didn't sexually harass her. A-- H-- did, and he drove her out of her position as backup programmer as retaliation when I reported his sexual harassment. Yet, I'm to blame, because I'm all men.
"I'm" responsible for a piece of shit software made my Amtelco, out of Wisconsin, and all its stupid fucking bugs and O(n^3) algorithms. That's because I'm the convenient assigned male who wanted to eat and have a roof over her head and perhaps progress in transition to full time.
Thus, the cold war with feminism. The "SJWs" exist. They're out there. And they Always. Miss. The. Fucking. Target.
Pedantically, you're correct. This gets down to the usage of the term hate. It also aligns with usage of the term fear.
For example, I've encountered what they call transphobia. Is it a fear? Is it hate? I'd argue that based on the physical intimidation I've witnessed against trans women who don't "pass" so well, that it's hate and the desire to destroy. (This is a big part of the reason I'm wondering whether I need a concealed revolver on me at all times.) At any rate, it's completely irrational.
(All though, my desire to be able to disable somebody who has become physically violent against somebody I care about because s/he thought that person was trying to make Christmas illegal is a rational response to the growing problem of irrationality and desire for violence.)
Fear and hate are greatly intertwined. We fear losing something we have, so we hate what we perceive is stealing it from us.
So, for the construction of misandry and misogyny, we have to keep this in mind. What will that woman lose if I tell her to lift it herself, because she's physically stronger than me? She'll lose her femininity. What will that man lose if I tell him that I'm damned capable myself to carry the thing? He'll lose his masculinity.
Therefore, we introduce hate to describe the reaction when I do either. If that woman hears, "No, I'm not going to fucking carry that for you, because reasons" (certainly not what I said), then she will hate me for taking away a thing that's valuable to her. If that man hears, "No, I'm going to fucking carry that myself, because reasons" (certainly not what I said), then he will hate me for taking away a thing that's valuable to him.
These are all nebulous concepts. You may call me feministphobic now.
To get to your point: the insidious nature of internalized misogyny is that she hates. She hates the idea that somebody might masculinize her. What does masculinization mean? In the misguided sense that leads to internalized misogyny, it means that by being good at maths, programming, science, etc, that she would be masculinized and lose her identity as a woman.
Exactly. Everybody on both sites knows I tend to have an active love life. I even fell for one of the students I was mentoring, which surprised me because normally I'm not attracted to women. It didn't change a fucking thing. I don't know what's up with this adviser who couldn't keep it in his pants, but I guess I don't find it difficult.
If I want to date somebody, I'll date them. Wanting is a question of a.) what will happen to them if I date them (I've had to turn dates down on this ground) b.) what will happen to me if I date them (generally lightly considered lol) c.) what will happen to us if I date them. #c is more complex. d.) what will happen to people around us if I date them.
If I have a professional relationship with somebody I've fallen for, then dating is out of the question. It's that damned simple.
Hey, you're the one flying off the handle assuming I don't think misandry is a huge problem.
Ok, first off, I'm not sure we're talking about the same thing with internalized misogyny. What I'm referring to is the problem that people, men and women both, assume women are weak, frivolous, and inauthentic—basically everything traditional gender roles says men are not—a total, absolute, insane interpretation of gender as absolute negation.
Both men and women have internalized misogyny, but it surfaces in different ways. For example, if a man believes I'm a woman, he may offer to carry heavy things for me. If a woman assumes I'm a man, she may ask me to carry heavy things for her, even when she is clearly physically stronger than I.
Men with internalized misogyny are stupid, though, albeit mostly harmless. I wish they'd knock it off with their white knight stuff but I really don't mind until it turns into full blown SJW crap. However, when women show internalized misogyny, that's where we get into real trouble, because it represents everything that feminism tried (and failed) to change about the world while we're simultaneously unable to do anything about it.
When I was talking about internalized misogyny, I was talking about: women who pass on the "math is hard" and "computers are for boys" memes to impressionable young girls instead of a more Amazonian line of reasoning.
Have you ever tried arguing with a woman deep in internalized misogyny that maths are not hard and that computers are fucking not for boys only? Holy crap, she will get the entire office to hate you, and you'll just get called an all men sexist is you're a man.
That being said, let me point out some areas where we have severe problems with misandry. First, the fucking huge elephant in the room is ritual male genital mutilation. How many men have suffered pain and cannot have children because something went wrong? At least my skin doesn't tear and begin bleeding when I have an erection, but even still, I have no idea how I would live with the physical pain without the escape route of being trans and being on HRT.
Alimony, child support, limited aid for single fathers, losing children and the house in divorce, selective service, rape culture. These are all signs of the pervasive misandry.
This isn't about male vs. female to me. I've experienced first-hand as a man the way this world shits on men, and I continue to experience it every day since I'm legally male and am forced to present as the male gender to get a paycheck. I've experienced second-hand from the stories of trans women and the few west/east cost feminists who have given me a taste of things to come once I've completed transition. As somebody who lives part time as both genders, it's straight in my fucking face every day how the world sucks for both men and women.
It's a first world problem, but the world is sick from sexism and it goes both ways.
I will grant you, if I had been a cisgendered woman, I would likely be vastly more well off than I am now. I might even have a family of my own. I say that as a man.
Yep, gaslighting asshole managers, sales-types, and pretty much everyone in a suit.
That's why I find this Narrative so personally offensive. Geeks and nerds are some of the most accepting people I know. We don't care what one is as long as one knows his/her/xir/etc shit.
Why are geeks and nerds under fire here? It's simple: the assholes who bullied us during high school and college and got all the attractive people have become journalists, PR idiots, salespeople, and gaslighting asshole managers. So, the bullying continues but on a grander scale.
Note: I did not use gender neutral terms to be PC. Women can be bullies, too, and they make vicious ones.
Well, it was an honest mistake. I was presenting as male and he was trying to be buddy-buddy cums with me. For some reason it just creeped me the hell out. So I asked him to stop, and he did. Problem solved!
My apologies. Gaslighting derives from the title of the movie The Gas Lights. In a nutshell, it's a psychological abuse tactic that causes the victim to question their perception of reality and their sanity. Would you like to know more?
I don't know your condition, but if it helps, your symptoms indicate cannabis flower. If you have a medical marijuana law available, I'd highly recommend at least giving it a shot. Some people are allergic, however. For others, cannabis flower can be the only thing that lets them regain their lives. I hope you're in the latter group.
A lot of it is internalized misogyny; that's one that SJWs will never fix.
Misandry is abound when every major news source can trumpet that we need to mutilate men's genitals/at birth/ because of a women's health issue, and simultaneously we were ringing our hands about whether vaccinating teenage girls to prevent that condition was sexualizing them inappropriately.
Kind of a mouth full, but that (in 2012) was just so "I can't even" that I still can't even.
Don't get me wrong. We've made gobs of progress if I can even consider seriously working as a woman in tech (more than likely will be burger flipping by my own choice as I've stated before).
There are no real barriers or glass ceilings anymore. That doesn't mean that the meatspace avatar doesn't matter way more than it should.
As for racism, I just roll my eyes anymore when white people bitch about property values and "there goes the neighborhood" when black people move in. Then there's that whole mess in Europe. Let's give the rapists a brand (the hot metal to the skin kind) or something and banhammer them instead of raving about how it's the fault of religion or skin color.
Disclaimer: I also restrain from giving female co-workers compliments for the same reason. I previously had great respect for one of the women who's called me sexist to my face and thought she was an intelligent, rational, worldly person. They're out there. It's a minefield. I'm hoping after I complete gender transition I will be able to compliment other women on their hair or dress (hint: a good way to do this is to ask where she bought a certain item).
Also, feminism at present seems to have declared war on me. Keep that in mind the next time you think feminism is on the side of trans folks. AmiMoJo will tell you differently, but it's definitely different where s/he is than it is here. I live within a day's drive of the Michigan Womyn's Music Festival.
Anyway! On to the point.
Sometimes, bald-faced gender discrimination does happen. Guess where it comes from? Gaslighting asshole managers. Companies who employ and are directed by those gaslighting asshole managers need to be held accountable so they're less inclined to hire gaslighting asshole sexists.
Long story short, best hacker I knew got "outed" (she wasn't deep stealth and was open about it, just a certain gaslighting asshole manager hadn't heard about it yet) and then promptly fired. I'll bet the gaslighting asshole thought "What! A liberal SJW feminist tranny? In my business? He's really a man anyway, so no discrimination here. B&!" (She's also anything but SJW.)
Heh, I'll bet he crapped his pants when the letter from the lawyer noted that not only is being a woman a protected class, but in the jurisdiction there, gender identity is also protected.
Let me cast "Circle of Protection: MRAs, feminists, SJWs, and anti-SJWs" on my friend. It was my idea to start the lawsuit, and another one of her friends and I talked her into it.
So, in summary, the true tragedy of all this SJW Gish galloping is that cases of real, provable, illegal discrimination do happen but get lost in the noise and then swept up in a stereotype that these lawsuits are people just looking for an easy payday. Also, real, disgusting, creepy as fuck sexual harassment does happen, but it gets lost in the noise of microaggressions. The only way to deal with this is to find cases where it's actually happening, prosecute, and be prepared to blame the real culprits instead of nerds and geeks: gaslighting asshole managers.
I was not wrapped up in a generalization about angry MRAs, even though there are several topics, especially ending male infant genital mutilation, about which I am an angry MRA myself.
Holy crap, that came out wrong. I don't even know what I was going for. Maybe I meant something like:
I was not accused of ridiculous crap by angry MRAs, perhaps because there are several topics, especially ending male infant genital mutilation, about which I am an angry MRA myself.
I would like to report that when I reported a gaslighting asshole manager for sexual harassment, I was not wrapped up in a generalization about angry MRAs, even though there are several topics, especially ending male infant genital mutilation, about which I am an angry MRA myself.
Instead what happened was that the company faithfully followed up on the complaint, the gaslighting asshole wratcheted up the psychological abuse, and the talented young female coder who was being harassed quit.:(
So, we probably agree that sexism, racism, and sexual harassment are still big problems in 2016. We can observe that the listed professions are predominantly male.
Two options immediately come to me. I'm sure there are more.
#1: Reach out to members of those professions and ask them why they went into it and what they think might interest more women to choose those professions. Work with high schools and middle schools to interest teenage girls in those professions. Work with elementary schools to deal with the complex problem internalized misogyny presents and try to prevent teachers at that stage from subconsciously turning girls off to maths and science. I'm sure there's a lot more work that needs to be done in addition, but I am confident that within two generations, this will be a solved problem.
Silly me. There I am thinking rationally.
(Note: Please do not get your knee jerking. I'm sure there are people engaged in #1. I'm one of them. I'm about to explain the mindset behind several times I've been on the receiving end of sexism and racism from both men and women.)
#2: Sexism, racism, and sexual harassment are bad things. People who have white skin tend to be racist. People who were assigned the male gender at birth engage in sexual harassment. Therefore, all whites assigned the male gender at birth are guilty of sexism, racism, and sexual harassment. Oh, and remember that "two wrongs make a right" is an axiom in this approach.
This is the important part of #2 and how it's guaranteed to solve the problem posthaste! Keep your eyes out! See somebody who's programming? Send over somebody who will be completely hopeless at learning it and have her go "I wanna be a programmer." Then when he fails, call him sexist to his face. Make sure he understand that software wouldn't have bug if filthy men like him weren't keeping women out of the field.
That's one technique. There are many more. Let's explore microaggressions: if somebody is doing something that is making me sufficiently uncomfortable, I might ask them to stop. It's a bit awkward, but usually they do and we move on. What we see here in this article, however, is the internet lynch mob approach. If somebody does something that makes you feel uncomfortable, send an internet lynch mob after them!
Hope that helped. Some people who are sexist merely use "fighting sexism" as an excuse to display their sexism.
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I am happy with the way estrogen makes me feel. I am happy with the way others treat me when they gender me female. If you want to call me male, I think I could adjust to being happy with that. Medical science will blur that black and white line between cosmetic surgery and gender change soon. Keep in mind that my breasts are fully functional. If it were available and affordable to me, I would love to have a complete female reproductive system implanted and my male one completely excised. That would brings things into alignment and solve so many semantic problems. I complain about circumcision pain, but I do not care if menstrual pain is worse on some sterile pain scale. It would be right; therefore it could not possibly be worse.
I could have children if that were available. I might like to have a child or two, grown in my own body.
Whether I'm a man or woman, I wish that feminism would stop trying to deny me access to the meds I need to live in peace with my body and without disturbing, excruciating circumcision pain.
Thank you for the reply. This is fascinating. It's probably too late to hope for an upmod. I really can't debate any of these points, other than to make the point that I don't think leaf blowers have ever exceeded maybe 70db in my exposure to them. Your points also cover that. There is a general trend towards noise and light pollution I wish we could do something about.
Your comment is oblig but I'll respond anyway. The point is that the SJWs have caused transphobia to snowball so far out of control I am now being denied medical care locally. I try to find a new doctor since the old one retired, and I get the runaround.
Is it because I'm a man and am being held accountable for what a gaslighting asshole manager did to a female programmer at my employer? Am I being held accountable for what a loudmouth doctor kept going on about that was seriously pissing off the committee? Am I being held accountable for the way the cisfemales in the accounting department distorted information to me that impacted my estimate? Is it a feminist objection or just a run of the mill religious objection? Combination of both?
I only have my meds until the end of March.
I did go too far with GP. What will happen without my meds is extremely distressing to me. Hint: they're not just cosmetic when they also have the side effect of preventing me from experiencing physical circumcision pain. If I cannot continue my meds, I am prepared to take drastic measures to ensure I will not begin experiencing excruciating pain again.
Thanks, Obama!
Feel free to mod offtopic.
transsexual; Probably the most stupid word I've seen in a long time.
One more thing I'd like to add.
I am fucking sick and tired of paying for your healthcare. Really, I am.
Next week I have to drive 150 miles away to see a doctor because of ignorant twats like you. I will have to pay CASH. I have been paying CASH.
Feminism and cisgendered women have declared cold war with me, so apparently I'm on punishment and can no longer see a local doctor. I run out of meds at the end of March so I don't have time to screw around and figure out what the transgender protocol of the month is and what fucking excuse I'm going to get for why I can't get more meds before I run out.
Now apparently, there's a sizable portion of cisgendered men who have declared cold war with me as well on the assumption that being trans gives me all kinds of intangible privileges, which is no different from the reason feminism and cisgendered women are at cold war with me.
You hate me because I'm a woman. Cisgendered women hate me because I'm a man. Every single one of you cisgendered fuckholes out there can go kill yourselves for all I care.
There, I used cisgendered as a derogatory term. I hope that enhances your day.
You're absolutely correct. That's because generally trans men can just be men without assholes like you needing to act like trans folks get special privileges.
Do you have any fucking clue what you just wrote?
Transsexual boy: A person assigned the female gender at birth living as a boy. Brangelina's son would be an example last I heard.
Transsexual girl: A person assigned the male gender at birth living as a girl. This is what you thought you were talking about, but you're just a stupid willfully ignorant cunt.
Your point about this story being stupid stands.
Disclaimer: The term transsexual has been deprecated and is only used by feminists and other willfully ignorant bigots like 110010001000 who have victimhood complexes.
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I'm a bit late to this discussion, but I don't get it. What's the problem leaf blowers pose? You know they have electrical ones, right?
I don't personally use a leaf blower, but I've never been bothered with the noise from two-stroke petrol leaf blowers. It's just a part of fall. Next you're going to tell me that four-stroke petrol little trucks with snow plows are also a noise problem. What about the big diesel snow plows?
However, the noise from HughPickens.com might need some remedying...
You seem to have completely missed my point. Congratulations.
Here are your options, given that you have a dick:
1.) Be a cisgendered male. You may be able to befriend some lesbians.
2.) Be a trans woman. You will be considered a metaphysical rapist and an invader by lesbians. You may be able to be "in lesbians" with another trans woman, but this will not grant you any legitimacy with cisgendered lesbians.
3.) Be a gay man. You will be considered a misogynist by lesbians.
#1 is the only way you won't be involved in the cold war feminism has declared.
Disclaimer: there are no free Obamacare sex changes. If you cut your dick off, you will likely bleed to death. Bottom surgery costs roughly $10,000--probably more. This is an entirely out-of-pocket expense.
Choose wisely.
Please ask me to have a coffee with you some time. All though, I might prefer a green tea, so I hope you won't be offended at that. As far as coffee goes, I prefer Colombian beans.
Please also note the low rank of trans women in the Oppression Olympics.
Consider Brianna Wu. In order for her victimization skit to work, she had to reject her nature as a trans person who has lived as both genders.
We hate trans women. It doesn't matter if you're an MRA or a feminist, we fucking hate trans women and want them to die.
Thus was born the 'non-binary gender-fluid, pansexual transracial somethingsomething and a toaster too', fresh off of tumblr.
Your problem is that you're reading tumblr. Remember when /b used to be good?
Please also note the status of otherkin being in the Special Oppression Olympics. That's not to diss the real Special Olympics. I enjoy a healthy and capable body, and if I weren't busy drinking myself to death, I'd probably be training to compete in the Iron Mountain (100 mile) Marathon. I really do feel for those who have disabilities. I wish they could run like the wind with me. Perhaps in the Summerland.
I get the threat from "SJWs." I want to ally to crush them, because they are morally and ethically deleterious. Yet, because I'm trans, you've already targeted me as an assassination target in the war with SJWs.
Warning: any Michigan Militia who sets foot on my property, despite the fact that I stand for what you stand for and want a revolution, will be fatally shot on sight. This is the nature of war. War never changes. You've declared war on me. It's a cold war at the moment, but I wasn't born yesterday. I hate that I am at war with you. Yet, you declared it, and my reaction is necessary to ensure the safety of those I care about.
Er... that's not a Freudian slip.
Of course, all things gender and sexuality become confused with my current absurd situation. I am attracted to men, and I have a female mind and soul and a male reproductive system. Thus, I, from time to time, become attracted to men I know through my roles obtained by playing the feminist game and presenting as male for business purposes.
Yes, it was a "homosexual" attraction I felt. I think perhaps that the reason I felt creeped out is that I was running my male simulation program one might say. That program is not sufficient to install in me male sexuality. Thus, the conflict.
(Why am I at cold war with feminism? Ask them. I don't know. I don't even fucking understand it. They're the ones who called me and every other trans woman out there a rapist and an impostor, and they're the ones who mesmerized the rest of you into believing their lies with economic consequences for anyone with a clitoris two millimeters too big. Why are lesbians screaming at my friends in public that they're not real women because their breasts aren't large enough and because they've been poisoned by testosterone? I don't fucking know. We should be allies, but they've declared war with you as an ally and there's nothing else to do.)
Hi, serviscope!
I've encountered the "SJW" phenomenon in real life multiple times. SJW is a poor term to describe this phenomenon of "two wrongs make a right" thinking.
Basically, it boils down to an application of another loaded term reverse discrimination.
I've said before that one of the reasons I'm at cold war with feminism at the moment is because I like to eat and have a roof over my head, I've been involved in various situations that appear to a naive observer to constitute hatred of women on my part.
"I've" "shut down" a women's health initiative, thus "I want to control women's bodies." I mean, WTF. I did the maths with cisgendered women at my company attempting to mislead me even to get the greatest number of women mammograms despite a shrinking budget and Obamacare obviating the program. Yet I'm blamed for ending it, because I'm the convenient person who was assigned the male gender at birth that said that we couldn't provide the number of mammograms that Susan G. Komen wanted with the presented budget. It simply wasn't financially possible. The program ended, in budget, and I get blamed for things beyond my control by sexists.
"I'm" responsible for the sexual harassment (is there an anti-scare quote I can use? this was a very serious incident, and personally i'd like to have the balls of the man responsible for it mounted above my fireplace) of a bright young woman who was becoming an excellent programmer. Why? I'm the convenient assigned male who was involved. I didn't sexually harass her. A-- H-- did, and he drove her out of her position as backup programmer as retaliation when I reported his sexual harassment. Yet, I'm to blame, because I'm all men.
"I'm" responsible for a piece of shit software made my Amtelco, out of Wisconsin, and all its stupid fucking bugs and O(n^3) algorithms. That's because I'm the convenient assigned male who wanted to eat and have a roof over her head and perhaps progress in transition to full time.
Thus, the cold war with feminism. The "SJWs" exist. They're out there. And they Always. Miss. The. Fucking. Target.
Pedantically, you're correct. This gets down to the usage of the term hate. It also aligns with usage of the term fear.
For example, I've encountered what they call transphobia. Is it a fear? Is it hate? I'd argue that based on the physical intimidation I've witnessed against trans women who don't "pass" so well, that it's hate and the desire to destroy. (This is a big part of the reason I'm wondering whether I need a concealed revolver on me at all times.) At any rate, it's completely irrational.
(All though, my desire to be able to disable somebody who has become physically violent against somebody I care about because s/he thought that person was trying to make Christmas illegal is a rational response to the growing problem of irrationality and desire for violence.)
Fear and hate are greatly intertwined. We fear losing something we have, so we hate what we perceive is stealing it from us.
So, for the construction of misandry and misogyny, we have to keep this in mind. What will that woman lose if I tell her to lift it herself, because she's physically stronger than me? She'll lose her femininity. What will that man lose if I tell him that I'm damned capable myself to carry the thing? He'll lose his masculinity.
Therefore, we introduce hate to describe the reaction when I do either. If that woman hears, "No, I'm not going to fucking carry that for you, because reasons" (certainly not what I said), then she will hate me for taking away a thing that's valuable to her. If that man hears, "No, I'm going to fucking carry that myself, because reasons" (certainly not what I said), then he will hate me for taking away a thing that's valuable to him.
These are all nebulous concepts. You may call me feministphobic now.
To get to your point: the insidious nature of internalized misogyny is that she hates. She hates the idea that somebody might masculinize her. What does masculinization mean? In the misguided sense that leads to internalized misogyny, it means that by being good at maths, programming, science, etc, that she would be masculinized and lose her identity as a woman.
Exactly. Everybody on both sites knows I tend to have an active love life. I even fell for one of the students I was mentoring, which surprised me because normally I'm not attracted to women. It didn't change a fucking thing. I don't know what's up with this adviser who couldn't keep it in his pants, but I guess I don't find it difficult.
If I want to date somebody, I'll date them. Wanting is a question of a.) what will happen to them if I date them (I've had to turn dates down on this ground) b.) what will happen to me if I date them (generally lightly considered lol) c.) what will happen to us if I date them. #c is more complex. d.) what will happen to people around us if I date them.
If I have a professional relationship with somebody I've fallen for, then dating is out of the question. It's that damned simple.
Hey, you're the one flying off the handle assuming I don't think misandry is a huge problem.
Ok, first off, I'm not sure we're talking about the same thing with internalized misogyny. What I'm referring to is the problem that people, men and women both, assume women are weak, frivolous, and inauthentic—basically everything traditional gender roles says men are not—a total, absolute, insane interpretation of gender as absolute negation.
Both men and women have internalized misogyny, but it surfaces in different ways. For example, if a man believes I'm a woman, he may offer to carry heavy things for me. If a woman assumes I'm a man, she may ask me to carry heavy things for her, even when she is clearly physically stronger than I.
Men with internalized misogyny are stupid, though, albeit mostly harmless. I wish they'd knock it off with their white knight stuff but I really don't mind until it turns into full blown SJW crap. However, when women show internalized misogyny, that's where we get into real trouble, because it represents everything that feminism tried (and failed) to change about the world while we're simultaneously unable to do anything about it.
When I was talking about internalized misogyny, I was talking about: women who pass on the "math is hard" and "computers are for boys" memes to impressionable young girls instead of a more Amazonian line of reasoning.
Have you ever tried arguing with a woman deep in internalized misogyny that maths are not hard and that computers are fucking not for boys only? Holy crap, she will get the entire office to hate you, and you'll just get called an all men sexist is you're a man.
That being said, let me point out some areas where we have severe problems with misandry. First, the fucking huge elephant in the room is ritual male genital mutilation. How many men have suffered pain and cannot have children because something went wrong? At least my skin doesn't tear and begin bleeding when I have an erection, but even still, I have no idea how I would live with the physical pain without the escape route of being trans and being on HRT.
Alimony, child support, limited aid for single fathers, losing children and the house in divorce, selective service, rape culture. These are all signs of the pervasive misandry.
This isn't about male vs. female to me. I've experienced first-hand as a man the way this world shits on men, and I continue to experience it every day since I'm legally male and am forced to present as the male gender to get a paycheck. I've experienced second-hand from the stories of trans women and the few west/east cost feminists who have given me a taste of things to come once I've completed transition. As somebody who lives part time as both genders, it's straight in my fucking face every day how the world sucks for both men and women.
It's a first world problem, but the world is sick from sexism and it goes both ways.
I will grant you, if I had been a cisgendered woman, I would likely be vastly more well off than I am now. I might even have a family of my own. I say that as a man.
Yep, gaslighting asshole managers, sales-types, and pretty much everyone in a suit.
That's why I find this Narrative so personally offensive. Geeks and nerds are some of the most accepting people I know. We don't care what one is as long as one knows his/her/xir/etc shit.
Why are geeks and nerds under fire here? It's simple: the assholes who bullied us during high school and college and got all the attractive people have become journalists, PR idiots, salespeople, and gaslighting asshole managers. So, the bullying continues but on a grander scale.
Note: I did not use gender neutral terms to be PC. Women can be bullies, too, and they make vicious ones.
*raises hand*
Well, it was an honest mistake. I was presenting as male and he was trying to be buddy-buddy cums with me. For some reason it just creeped me the hell out. So I asked him to stop, and he did. Problem solved!
My apologies. Gaslighting derives from the title of the movie The Gas Lights. In a nutshell, it's a psychological abuse tactic that causes the victim to question their perception of reality and their sanity. Would you like to know more?
I don't know your condition, but if it helps, your symptoms indicate cannabis flower. If you have a medical marijuana law available, I'd highly recommend at least giving it a shot. Some people are allergic, however. For others, cannabis flower can be the only thing that lets them regain their lives. I hope you're in the latter group.
A lot of it is internalized misogyny; that's one that SJWs will never fix.
Misandry is abound when every major news source can trumpet that we need to mutilate men's genitals /at birth/ because of a women's health issue, and simultaneously we were ringing our hands about whether vaccinating teenage girls to prevent that condition was sexualizing them inappropriately.
Kind of a mouth full, but that (in 2012) was just so "I can't even" that I still can't even.
Don't get me wrong. We've made gobs of progress if I can even consider seriously working as a woman in tech (more than likely will be burger flipping by my own choice as I've stated before).
There are no real barriers or glass ceilings anymore. That doesn't mean that the meatspace avatar doesn't matter way more than it should.
As for racism, I just roll my eyes anymore when white people bitch about property values and "there goes the neighborhood" when black people move in. Then there's that whole mess in Europe. Let's give the rapists a brand (the hot metal to the skin kind) or something and banhammer them instead of raving about how it's the fault of religion or skin color.
Hope that helps.
Disclaimer: I also restrain from giving female co-workers compliments for the same reason. I previously had great respect for one of the women who's called me sexist to my face and thought she was an intelligent, rational, worldly person. They're out there. It's a minefield. I'm hoping after I complete gender transition I will be able to compliment other women on their hair or dress (hint: a good way to do this is to ask where she bought a certain item).
Also, feminism at present seems to have declared war on me. Keep that in mind the next time you think feminism is on the side of trans folks. AmiMoJo will tell you differently, but it's definitely different where s/he is than it is here. I live within a day's drive of the Michigan Womyn's Music Festival.
Anyway! On to the point.
Sometimes, bald-faced gender discrimination does happen. Guess where it comes from? Gaslighting asshole managers. Companies who employ and are directed by those gaslighting asshole managers need to be held accountable so they're less inclined to hire gaslighting asshole sexists.
Long story short, best hacker I knew got "outed" (she wasn't deep stealth and was open about it, just a certain gaslighting asshole manager hadn't heard about it yet) and then promptly fired. I'll bet the gaslighting asshole thought "What! A liberal SJW feminist tranny? In my business? He's really a man anyway, so no discrimination here. B&!" (She's also anything but SJW.)
Heh, I'll bet he crapped his pants when the letter from the lawyer noted that not only is being a woman a protected class, but in the jurisdiction there, gender identity is also protected.
Let me cast "Circle of Protection: MRAs, feminists, SJWs, and anti-SJWs" on my friend. It was my idea to start the lawsuit, and another one of her friends and I talked her into it.
So, in summary, the true tragedy of all this SJW Gish galloping is that cases of real, provable, illegal discrimination do happen but get lost in the noise and then swept up in a stereotype that these lawsuits are people just looking for an easy payday. Also, real, disgusting, creepy as fuck sexual harassment does happen, but it gets lost in the noise of microaggressions. The only way to deal with this is to find cases where it's actually happening, prosecute, and be prepared to blame the real culprits instead of nerds and geeks: gaslighting asshole managers.
I was not wrapped up in a generalization about angry MRAs, even though there are several topics, especially ending male infant genital mutilation, about which I am an angry MRA myself.
Holy crap, that came out wrong. I don't even know what I was going for. Maybe I meant something like:
I was not accused of ridiculous crap by angry MRAs, perhaps because there are several topics, especially ending male infant genital mutilation, about which I am an angry MRA myself.
Simple solution .. castrate everyone who whines about SJWs.
They already act like a bunch of whiny punks with no balls anyway, and this way they won't procreate.
Can I get medical care finally??? Is this for free and just because I complain about SJWs?
Please! Where do I apply?! Me first!
Or do I need to threaten to procreate first?
I would like to report that when I reported a gaslighting asshole manager for sexual harassment, I was not wrapped up in a generalization about angry MRAs, even though there are several topics, especially ending male infant genital mutilation, about which I am an angry MRA myself.
Instead what happened was that the company faithfully followed up on the complaint, the gaslighting asshole wratcheted up the psychological abuse, and the talented young female coder who was being harassed quit. :(
Let me help!
So, we probably agree that sexism, racism, and sexual harassment are still big problems in 2016. We can observe that the listed professions are predominantly male.
Two options immediately come to me. I'm sure there are more.
#1: Reach out to members of those professions and ask them why they went into it and what they think might interest more women to choose those professions. Work with high schools and middle schools to interest teenage girls in those professions. Work with elementary schools to deal with the complex problem internalized misogyny presents and try to prevent teachers at that stage from subconsciously turning girls off to maths and science. I'm sure there's a lot more work that needs to be done in addition, but I am confident that within two generations, this will be a solved problem.
Silly me. There I am thinking rationally.
(Note: Please do not get your knee jerking. I'm sure there are people engaged in #1. I'm one of them. I'm about to explain the mindset behind several times I've been on the receiving end of sexism and racism from both men and women.)
#2: Sexism, racism, and sexual harassment are bad things. People who have white skin tend to be racist. People who were assigned the male gender at birth engage in sexual harassment. Therefore, all whites assigned the male gender at birth are guilty of sexism, racism, and sexual harassment. Oh, and remember that "two wrongs make a right" is an axiom in this approach.
This is the important part of #2 and how it's guaranteed to solve the problem posthaste! Keep your eyes out! See somebody who's programming? Send over somebody who will be completely hopeless at learning it and have her go "I wanna be a programmer." Then when he fails, call him sexist to his face. Make sure he understand that software wouldn't have bug if filthy men like him weren't keeping women out of the field.
That's one technique. There are many more. Let's explore microaggressions: if somebody is doing something that is making me sufficiently uncomfortable, I might ask them to stop. It's a bit awkward, but usually they do and we move on. What we see here in this article, however, is the internet lynch mob approach. If somebody does something that makes you feel uncomfortable, send an internet lynch mob after them!
Hope that helped. Some people who are sexist merely use "fighting sexism" as an excuse to display their sexism.