Would any of you, if you owned a company, IGNORE I2? Microsoft ignored the internet once before.
Internet succeeded because Microsoft and other idiots ignored it, so smart people did the development instead of them.
If you were smart and trying to stay on top of the latest tech and market, you'd be stupid not to be onboard with I2.
If it's truly open standards, why stick your nose into consortium and "donate" software? It's not like Microsoft is good at developing standards.
Everything MS does is not evil and not everything they do is crap. Like anything, some proportion of their output sucks, and some of it is good, and only the ratios are different. Just look at MS's work on WebDAV, IPP, XML, XSL, XSchema, etc.
And in which of them Microsoft's participation made anything good?
Just grow up a little. This is a standard business move that all organizations and companies are going to take.
This is a move made by Microsoft, and we know pretty well what results the same move caused in the past.
Then we have idiots calling MS's donation of software to schools as "not real money", because they can stamp a CD for less than $1. What if Microsoft gave them $1million in cold cash instead of $1million in software. That's real money right?
Right, but it never happened -- either M$ gives their software, or expects something outlandish in demand (like naming biuldings after Gates)
But those schools would very likely turn around and spend a large fraction of that cash on MS software, so we end up with the same situation as giving them 1 million in software.
Then why it never happened? Why not give schools some freedom of choice? Maybe because otherwise some of those money would be spent on non-Microsoft products?
It's just like the IMF/WorldBank giving poor countries money to buy US/European products.
Really? Then your view of international economy is seriously distorted.
I'm still waiting for Slashdot for Adult Linux Users and OS Atheists to emerge.
Your definition of adult is suspiciously close to my definition of a spineless coward.
Because most of people have pretty good idea, what those "money" are -- copies of NT4 and Windoze 2000 betas are "products", and Microsoft's internal spendings on the development of their proprietary software are "services".
C2 certification is not mandatory for all government systems, only for few of them. However POSIX is required, and this is why Windows NT has POSIX subsystem, even though no one uses it because of its extreme brokenness.
Xenophobia. Managers are scared of Linux because it's not NT, which they're used to.
Managers are used to NT? Where? Managers that propose NT for high-end stuff definitely never seen NT for long enough to be "used to" it -- but they are "used to" being bombarded by M$ advertising/propaganda of NT, and this, not mythical "they are already used to NT" should be counteracted.
Microsoft doesn't have any rights -- it's a company. Its employees, and shareholders have rights, but there is nothing in the law that protects their investment and work from being lost when company breaks the law. Since the harm was done, a remedy for it should be done as well.
But two years from now, MP3 will be as dead as push technology is today.
Excuse me? What is used in my webcam then? "Server push" was used as "umbrella" name for a lot of different, unrelated and often poorly thought out technologies, but the original Netscape server push exists.
Finally, please, if any of you HAVE run a web cam off a linux box, please, do email. Any other questions, comments, suggestions, whatever, just send 'em my way.
I use QuickCam, and it works through parallel port, however the speed is limited to about 1fps at 320x240 24bpp resolution AND it takes a lot of processor time because of stupid parallel port interface design. Still it should be usable on a box like that.
The fact that a macro can do these things is a designed-in feature of MS OOffice, and it's probably in Lotus and WordPerfect too. If a different Linux/Windows/Mac/OS2 office suite (er, automation platform) is immune is because it's either feature deficiant, allows the user to disable certain functionality, or it has some sort of code-signing infrastructure. (I can't think of any different solutions.) Some posters seem to be leaning towards the feature-deficient solution.
You have missed the point. The flaw in M$ design is that there is no distinction between data files and executables. Any kind of macro functionality can be implemented in office-style package without placing self-executable stuff into data files, yet M$ did precisely that -- made possible to create a file that looks just like plain document yet if displayed triggers execution of a script, contained in it in the same "context" as normal macro operations, performed by macros built into package or written by the user.
Good design shouldn't prevent anyone to send macros just like nothing prevents anyone to mail lisp files to each other, but it isn't possible to email someone lisp source in a way that emacs (that consists almost entirely from "macros" in lisp) will automatically execute it when the user just wants to see the data.
Most of the people in organisations like mine DO NOT have a choice in terms of what software they use. MS Office and Backoffice are corporate standards, for which licenses have been purchased for every luser. Given that there is every spectrum of IQ in our organsation, from Management to Intelligent and savvy users;). What the author of the virus did was essentially created a "gun, which replicated itself everytime someone fired a shot". Imagine a weapon like that let loose on our streets.
Good! When more incidents like this will be brought to public attention with honest and intelligent explanation, some people actually will start thinking, what kind of standards they are following. As for you, who cares about you having or not having a choice? You work with people that can't solve the problem with idiots at work in any other way than giving everyone a system designed for idiots => you pay the price.
The reason sysadmins are in such high demand, the best of whom can pretty much write their own paychecks, is that they are the ones responsible for keeping things going and heading things off. True, you cannot stop everything from comming through, but you have to realize that the average employee in your company is going to open any attachment without thinking twice. It is your job actually, to ensure that they learn as little as possible -- and what I mean is they learn what they need to do their jobs and not waste time on anything else -- noone can possibly be expected to learn everything (and to resurrect the arrogance thread from a few weeks ago, when youre being paid, "Read the book" is not an acceptable response to a question).
Good sysadmin will have a mail server that won't be overloaded by Melissa, his POP and IMAP servers will pass huge amount of mail without any glitches, and quotas will be set on filesystems, so users won't fill up the disk, and he won't use M$ Word by himself, so he won't participate in Melissa distribution. Users will be infected, and their mailboxes will be full of garbage, and potentially their data will be lost, but this is not what sysadmin should waste his time and efforts on.
Because if he will be busy installing 2^32-1'th version of antivirus on his M$ Exchange server instead of configuring and maintaining reliable network, the first copy of Melissa (or whatever mutant that will still pass through his "antivirus") will cause DoS on all his services, and all his network will be dead -- for users that received Melissa, for users that didn't receive Melissa and for customers that use company's web server. And that will be far worse than few tens of thousands of email messages.
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I use the Blackdown jvm daily. It's not as fast as c code, but it's not bad at all. I use a java text editor quite a bit, performance is fine.
The requirements for text editor performance are very low, and you probably have something very fast, however my main gripe is about reliability. It's not normal when programs crash because of buggy language implementation.
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The problem is, there is no usable Java VM, and no one seems to be capable of producing one. Quality of Sun's own implementation is low, and others don't seem to have anything much better.
It also should be noted that a lot of projects that are famous now, passed a time in their life when some basic things were in the process of being designed and redesigned, documentation written, code debugged, etc. Remember Gimp 0.54 and for how long it was the only semi-usable version? NCSA httpd and a-patchy Apache? Early versions of BSD (and impact of corporations' politics on them), then later non-so-painless history of 4.4BSD Lite derivatives?
jwz probably could be better encouraging patience, not demonstrating the lack of it.
There exist people for whom one could make the argument that they deserve to be murdered. Nobody ever deserves to be raped.
Nobody ever deserves his favorite poodle to be painted green either, but it doesn't mean that painting poodles green is worse than a murder.
But doesn't the question that original statement answer looks bogus in the first place? Why should it matter, is rapist better than a murderer or worse?
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Would any of you, if you owned a company, IGNORE I2? Microsoft ignored the internet once before.
Internet succeeded because Microsoft and other idiots ignored it, so smart people did the development instead of them.
If you were smart and trying to stay on top of the latest tech and market, you'd be stupid not to be onboard with I2.
If it's truly open standards, why stick your nose into consortium and "donate" software? It's not like Microsoft is good at developing standards.
Everything MS does is not evil and not everything they do is crap. Like anything, some proportion of their output sucks, and some of it is good, and only the ratios are different. Just look at MS's work on WebDAV, IPP, XML, XSL, XSchema, etc.
And in which of them Microsoft's participation made anything good?
Just grow up a little. This is a standard business move that all organizations and companies are going to take.
This is a move made by Microsoft, and we know pretty well what results the same move caused in the past.
Then we have idiots calling MS's donation of software to schools as "not real money", because they can stamp a CD for less than $1. What if Microsoft gave them $1million in cold cash instead of $1million in software. That's real money right?
Right, but it never happened -- either M$ gives their software, or expects something outlandish in demand (like naming biuldings after Gates)
But those schools would very likely turn around and spend a large fraction of that cash on MS software, so we end up with the same situation as giving them 1 million in software.
Then why it never happened? Why not give schools some freedom of choice? Maybe because otherwise some of those money would be spent on non-Microsoft products?
It's just like the IMF/WorldBank giving poor countries money to buy US/European products.
Really? Then your view of international economy is seriously distorted.
I'm still waiting for Slashdot for Adult Linux Users and OS Atheists to emerge.
Your definition of adult is suspiciously close to my definition of a spineless coward.
Why is everyone fawning over this??
Because most of people have pretty good idea, what those "money" are -- copies of NT4 and Windoze 2000 betas are "products", and Microsoft's internal spendings on the development of their proprietary software are "services".
C2 certification is not mandatory for all government systems, only for few of them. However POSIX is required, and this is why Windows NT has POSIX subsystem, even though no one uses it because of its extreme brokenness.
Xenophobia. Managers are scared of Linux because it's not NT, which they're used to.
Managers are used to NT? Where? Managers that propose NT for high-end stuff definitely never seen NT for long enough to be "used to" it -- but they are "used to" being bombarded by M$ advertising/propaganda of NT, and this, not mythical "they are already used to NT" should be counteracted.
When??
When he will complete his task -- destroying yet another company by selling it to M$, of course.
Others apparently do... Oh, now I understand, why RMS wants it to be called GNU/Linux -- to impress script kiddies!
Microsoft doesn't have any rights -- it's a company. Its employees, and shareholders have rights, but there is nothing in the law that protects their investment and work from being lost when company breaks the law. Since the harm was done, a remedy for it should be done as well.
There is one question: why Linux should have that? What study (other than very NT-biased one, made by Russinovich) are those requirements based on?
What happens when Microsoft decides Amazon and ebay are too powerful?
Nothing. M$ needs stocks that are even more inflated than their own one, to make their stock look more attractive for their employees.
BSD license is *very* old.
But two years from now, MP3 will be as dead as push technology is today.
Excuse me? What is used in my webcam then? "Server push" was used as "umbrella" name for a lot of different, unrelated and often poorly thought out technologies, but the original Netscape server push exists.
Finally, please, if any of you HAVE run a web cam off a linux box, please, do email. Any other questions, comments, suggestions, whatever, just send 'em my way.
I use QuickCam, and it works through parallel port, however the speed is limited to about 1fps at 320x240 24bpp resolution AND it takes a lot of processor time because of stupid parallel port interface design. Still it should be usable on a box like that.
The fact that a macro can do these things is a designed-in feature of MS OOffice, and it's probably in Lotus and WordPerfect too. If a different Linux/Windows/Mac/OS2 office suite (er, automation platform) is immune is because it's either feature deficiant, allows the user to disable certain functionality, or it has some sort of code-signing infrastructure. (I can't think of any different solutions.) Some posters seem to be leaning towards the feature-deficient solution.
You have missed the point. The flaw in M$ design is that there is no distinction between data files and executables. Any kind of macro functionality can be implemented in office-style package without placing self-executable stuff into data files, yet M$ did precisely that -- made possible to create a file that looks just like plain document yet if displayed triggers execution of a script, contained in it in the same "context" as normal macro operations, performed by macros built into package or written by the user.
Good design shouldn't prevent anyone to send macros just like nothing prevents anyone to mail lisp files to each other, but it isn't possible to email someone lisp source in a way that emacs (that consists almost entirely from "macros" in lisp) will automatically execute it when the user just wants to see the data.
Most of the people in organisations like mine DO NOT have a choice in terms of what software they use. MS Office and Backoffice are corporate standards, for which licenses have been purchased for every luser. Given that there is every spectrum of IQ in our organsation, from Management to Intelligent and savvy users ;). What the author of the virus did was essentially created a "gun, which replicated itself everytime someone fired a shot". Imagine a weapon like that let loose on our streets.
Good! When more incidents like this will be brought to public attention with honest and intelligent explanation, some people actually will start thinking, what kind of standards they are following. As for you, who cares about you having or not having a choice? You work with people that can't solve the problem with idiots at work in any other way than giving everyone a system designed for idiots => you pay the price.
The reason sysadmins are in such high demand, the best of whom can pretty much write their own paychecks, is that they are the ones responsible for keeping things going and heading things off. True, you cannot stop everything from comming through, but you have to realize that the average employee in your company is going to open any attachment without thinking twice. It is your job actually, to ensure that they learn as little as possible -- and what I mean is they learn what they need to do their jobs and not waste time on anything else -- noone can possibly be expected to learn everything (and to resurrect the arrogance thread from a few weeks ago, when youre being paid, "Read the book" is not an acceptable response to a question).
Good sysadmin will have a mail server that won't be overloaded by Melissa, his POP and IMAP servers will pass huge amount of mail without any glitches, and quotas will be set on filesystems, so users won't fill up the disk, and he won't use M$ Word by himself, so he won't participate in Melissa distribution. Users will be infected, and their mailboxes will be full of garbage, and potentially their data will be lost, but this is not what sysadmin should waste his time and efforts on.
Because if he will be busy installing 2^32-1'th version of antivirus on his M$ Exchange server instead of configuring and maintaining reliable network, the first copy of Melissa (or whatever mutant that will still pass through his "antivirus") will cause DoS on all his services, and all his network will be dead -- for users that received Melissa, for users that didn't receive Melissa and for customers that use company's web server. And that will be far worse than few tens of thousands of email messages.
I use the Blackdown jvm daily. It's not as fast as c code, but it's not bad at all. I use a java text editor quite a bit, performance is fine.
The requirements for text editor performance are very low, and you probably have something very fast, however my main gripe is about reliability. It's not normal when programs crash because of buggy language implementation.
The problem is, there is no usable Java VM, and no one seems to be capable of producing one. Quality of Sun's own implementation is low, and others don't seem to have anything much better.
Run it in xterm with larger font and enabled mouse for "graphical capabilities".
It also should be noted that a lot of projects that are famous now, passed a time in their life when some basic things were in the process of being designed and redesigned, documentation written, code debugged, etc. Remember Gimp 0.54 and for how long it was the only semi-usable version? NCSA httpd and a-patchy Apache? Early versions of BSD (and impact of corporations' politics on them), then later non-so-painless history of 4.4BSD Lite derivatives?
jwz probably could be better encouraging patience, not demonstrating the lack of it.
You dare reduce the serious and violent act of rape to the level of the silly and annoying act of painting curly-haired toy dogs an odd color?
I merely point out the pointlessness of statements like this.
There exist people for whom one could make the argument that they deserve to be murdered. Nobody ever deserves to be raped.
Nobody ever deserves his favorite poodle to be painted green either, but it doesn't mean that painting poodles green is worse than a murder.
But doesn't the question that original statement answer looks bogus in the first place? Why should it matter, is rapist better than a murderer or worse?
And why isn't it TINSTAAFL (There Is No Such Thing As A Free Lunch)?
There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch.