Faster to just copy it to a usb key. You have multiple copies of your data, and no longer have to worry about network latency, or even if there IS a network available.
s someone who has been writing code for decades, I know the difference between compilers and interpreters.
Firstly, I have you beat in # of years programming. Secondly, you apparently don't because...
No you don't, which is why you post AC. Stupid troll.
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VB, C#, etc., are interpreted, and require the presence of a runtime.
I didn't realize that 'runtime' = 'interpreter'.. A runtime could be, as in the case of.NET, a compiler. Thats right, a run time compiler. The technology is called JIT and.NET isnt the first. Apparently you didn't know that this was possible, which is hard to believe since you have several decades of programming experience... oh wait, you probably don't... you must have lied.
Run-time compilation is what interpreters do, all the way back to stupid runtimes like basic, that took each line of a program, and, at runtime, converted it into instructions the machine could use. Study the history of languages, retard.
JIT "compilation" shows that the languages aren't compiled - they still need to be run through the interpreter and converted to something the computer can actually use. "JIT" is a catchy marketing phrase first made popular with Java. It's the same story, for example, with those stupid "Smarty Templates" - the "compiled" output isn't - it's just more php code that still needs to be interpreted.
Too many people are using the term compiler too loosly, because of their ignorance of how computers work. There's a world of difference between a statically-linked c program and a piece of shit like the.net runtime or even the not-so-crappy java runtime. Only the c program doesn't need further interpretation to be run.
As someone who has been writing code for decades, I know the difference between compilers and interpreters. VB, C#, etc., are interpreted, and require the presence of a runtime. You on the other hand, require only the presence of the term "compiler" to believe that they are compiled languages.
Even Java doesn't meet the true test for a compiled language - it needs a runtime interpreter. And no, clipper wasn't compiled either - the stand-alone programs it created bound a copy of the interpreter into the output, but the code was still interpreted at runtime.
If it has to be interpreted, it's not compiled - simple as that. It's just transformed into an intermediate state that still has to be interpreted, same as your old basic programs.
I do know that in some cases even severed spinal cords could grow back correctly enough for partial function if treated soon enough with a particular substance. That substance is a common food additive,
So junk food is good for you. You could even say it is "brain food."
vb and c# are INTERPRETED languages. The "compiler" isn't - it outputs a separate file that the interpreter can use. Remove the interpreter (the "runtime") and they won't run;
Add/remove programs is not package management any more than the delete key is. No updating, no dependency checking, no picking and choosing which repositories you want.
Fucking retard. Do you even know the difference between a compiled and an interpreted language? Nope. Anyone who thinks that C#, ASP.NET, or VB.NET are compiled languages is in no position to lecture anyone.
And if MASM64 is as bad as their previous iterations, no thanks. Too bad Borland went bye-bye.
Nice little troll account you've got going there. Too bad it's so obvious. Oh well, just another amateur...
I've had plenty of Windows installs that failed - including the notorious NT reboots-itself-every-few-seconds-on-newer-hardware one way back when. USB distros are handy, not just for making sure everything just works, but also for:
security - take your data with you instead of leaving it on someone else's machine
backup - just dd the whole key, either to another key, or to a hard drive
comparison shopping - try out the latest and greatest without having to make a committment
Live CDs/DVDs also have the advantage of "ease of install" - you simply don't have to install at all. Just boot and run. And it's not like anyone can hose the system, no matter what they do, short of physical damage.
And having all sorts of stuff in the standard distros (servers and compilers and office suites, for example) is handy.
VB.NET, C#, ASP.NET are not compiled languages - they're interpreted, and what's included is the interpreter/runtime. VC++ is a separate product. So no compilers shipped with the OS.
Before you get on your high horse about C# - the "compiler output" is Common Intermediate Language interpreted bytecode (CIL), not machine code - it has to be run through the Common Language Runtime (CLR). C# is no more a "compiled" language than java or perl.
Also, vbscript is now in bug-fix-only mode. No new releases planned, ever.
Last time I updated this box (a couple of weeks ago - a fresh install of opensuse on a new partition), there were 12 GIGS of new files and updates (yes, I installed pretty much everything except the kitchen sink -and that's only because I couldn't find kitchen_sink.svn.2009.09.13_unstable in the repository - not even in packman.de) - done over the net, via cable modem, and it didn't take 20 hours...
The problem with Windows is code cruft, pure and simple. You can see it on slower machines, for example when the desktop needlessly calls routines to refresh multiple times (a bug that's been there since at least Win95b, made it into XP, and is still present in Vista) because of badly audited code to invalidate regions and coalesce updates.
No sane person runs off a USB drive unless you're scanning for viruses or just toying around. Neither of which are things that matter to almost anyone running Windows.
Right, because we all know that viruses don't matter to Windows users - because if they really cared about viruses, they would be running a different OS.
Well, that's one way to look at it.
The other way is that they CAN'T run off a USB key, so it doesn't matter - but if they could, how many would? It would be nice to take your apps and desktop settings with you wherever you go, and with 16 gig usb keys for $25, it's cheap enough.
No, I'm not changing my story in any shape, manner or form. It's YOU who made false claims, and now are unable to back them up in the face of additional facts.
The only "ambiguity" here is someone hiding as an AC.
The fact that your arguments are as fucktarded as the defendants is the point - read the story. No ambiguity on either count.
I'm used to it:-) There are more than a few birthers/deathers who hate everything I write that points out that we can't just blithely go on and hope that the rapture will solve everything we managed to screw up (just check out my freaks list - there's more than 100 people there)
We already are way beyond sustainable in terms of population and resource usage;
The US is one of the worst offenders in the Western World, having a high birth rate and using 20% of the planets' resources;
The US and Great Britain have together generated most of the craziness in the home real estate market, bringing the world banking system to the point of collapse;
US debt policies won't be solved by inflating away the debt - a lower standard of living while paying back the debt is going to be the "new normal", same as for individuals who live beyond their means;
The longer we delay, the worse the medicine ultimately tastes;
We are into uncharted territory wrt oil, climate, population, finance - all at the same time.
The "have-not" countries aren't going to go for cap and trade - why should they put their domestic markets at a disadvantage, if the US won't cut back on its' resource consumption, and continues unfair agriculture subsidies that devastate markets for local farmers in their own countries, forcing them to import food that they would otherwise grow themselves? It's just dumping under another name, and they know it.
We're all paying for the last decade's foolishness, and so will the next generation.
I'm sure you had a point about culture in this somewhere and aren't just commenting on financial shennanigans (sic). However, I'm failing to find it.
The whole last decade of stupidity was caused by a culture of greed, entitlement, and short-sightedness. A culture that encouraged the mindset that you don't have to actually produce something of value, just load up on debt and pretend you're an "investor." The millions of people who thought nothing of committing criminal acts such as fraud by lying on their mortgage applications, those who knowingly enabled them, those who knew it was ultimately unsustainable but did it because "everyone else is doing it", and those who now defend any sort of bail-out for any of them - even Warren Buffet is profiting from the bail-out (which explains why he pushed so hard for it).
This is the new "American Way" - irresponsible, avoiding the clearly foreseeable consequences of your actions, and getting others to pay for them. Where the "fix" for the debt problem is still more debt - which just compounds the problem. Shove the problem onto the next generation, same as energy and pollution. And don't fix health care - not as long as "I've got mine, Jack!"
Like all problems, this one will self-correct. The cost will be high - it'll probably involve both the default of the US on its' debt, which, along with environental and social crisis, will set in motion the eventual break-up over the next 50 years into several regional "nations" - maybe under a new US Federation, maybe some joining Canada and Mexico; who can say for sure at this time?
But yes, it's a reference to the moral and social decay that allowed a whole nation to destroy their economic future in what devolved into a get-rich-quick Ponzi scheme.
So many companies bury the results of bad-for-marketing tests.
Who says they didn't?
Failed and corrupted installs, upgrades, and ones that were abandoned because they took more than 24 hours? I'm sure at least a few people here have more than a TB of pr0n^Wdata on their drives.
What CEO has 650 GB of pr0n on his machine? The one who is going to give you a nice raise when you find it while copying their "data" over - or fire your ass asap!
Seriously, if the CEO is male, he has porn on at least one machine.
I have the 21 disk install of OS 2.1 in the closet
Weep for me
Well, I've got it on 5-1/4" floppies. Ditto for Windows 3.0 and DOS 6, 5, and even 3.something_or_other.
I finally threw out the single-sided, 8-sector floppies a decade or so ago. Maybe it's time to do another culling... mind you, they were still readable back in 1997 (last time I checked, just for the heck of it). Now I don't even know if I have an old working 5-1/4 drive still kicking around.
Agreed! Good job to MS for being honest in the results they witnessed. At this point I've done quite a few clean installs and upgrades to Win7 on what I would consider low-end systems (early Pentium 4's, 512MB RAM) with my slowest install thus far being around 3 hours.
And I have seen Ubuntu (one of my FAVORITE desktop OS'es) take no less than 8 hours to complete.
Apples and oranges comparison.
The various distros throw in an office suite, image tools, tons of other apps, servers, several browsers, compilers, interpreters, etc., and a system to keep ALL of them up to date. What does Microsoft throw in? wordpad and paint. No perl, no python, no php, no apache, ONE browser, no compiler, no package management outside of its' own applications...
And forget about trialing it off a bootable cd or usb key to see if it does what you want or breaks on your hardware...
That doesn't mean those heady years haven't had an impact on the culture.
This is true... and the rapid abandonment by corporations is having a huge negative impact now, after people abandoned their caution and took part in the global debt frenzy. They'd be better off financially now if the Celtic Tiger had never happened. At least they would better afford to drink their sorrows away.
We're all paying for the last decade's foolishness, and so will the next generation.
YOU HAVE NO CLUE WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. You don't need two data points to give an average speed. One data point will give you the exact speed. DO YOUR RESEARCH. I HAVE WORKED DIRECTLY WITH GPS TRACKING SYSTEMS FOR SEVERAL YEARS. I DO KNOW THIS IS A FACT.
You know nothing.
You are a fucking retard. It won't unless you KNOW that the radar was taken the exact same time that the GPS data was taken. There is NO radar or lidar gun out there that will automatically query and sync with the perp's onboard GPS. You can change your speed a LOT in that 30-second window. For example, accelerate to 60mph, get hit by the radar cop, then slow down again to 45 mph.
The judge has to deal in facts. GPS readings that aren't synced to the radar gun time-wise, are not a "fact" about how fast the perp was going when the radar caught him at time B. They're only a "fact" about how fast he was going at time A and time C. They might set upper and lower bounds for his speed at time B, bt they don't "prove" anything else.
All that they have is that at SOME point in time, not necessarily the time when the radar lit the perp up (maybe 15 seconds before and 15 seconds after, or 20 seconds before and 10 seconds after), there was GPS data showing certain speeds. Unless you can prove that the GPS data was taken simultaneously with the radar reading, you have no "proof."
Don't even bother going back to school to learn basic principles of logic - it's obviously beyond you.
You remind me of the people who turn onto train tracks and get creamed because the GPS said "turn right now" and they did... rather than at the next street. Real Darwin Award material.
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Faster to just copy it to a usb key. You have multiple copies of your data, and no longer have to worry about network latency, or even if there IS a network available.
Better yet, put a teaspoon of methylene blue in a 1- or 2-litre bottle of coke or pepsi.
Let suspect drink it.
Let them get all alarmed the next day because they're peeing green or purple.
Just a couple of drops in a glass does the job.
No you don't, which is why you post AC. Stupid troll.
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Run-time compilation is what interpreters do, all the way back to stupid runtimes like basic, that took each line of a program, and, at runtime, converted it into instructions the machine could use. Study the history of languages, retard.
JIT "compilation" shows that the languages aren't compiled - they still need to be run through the interpreter and converted to something the computer can actually use. "JIT" is a catchy marketing phrase first made popular with Java. It's the same story, for example, with those stupid "Smarty Templates" - the "compiled" output isn't - it's just more php code that still needs to be interpreted.
Too many people are using the term compiler too loosly, because of their ignorance of how computers work. There's a world of difference between a statically-linked c program and a piece of shit like the .net runtime or even the not-so-crappy java runtime. Only the c program doesn't need further interpretation to be run.
So grow up, fat boy.
Even Java doesn't meet the true test for a compiled language - it needs a runtime interpreter. And no, clipper wasn't compiled either - the stand-alone programs it created bound a copy of the interpreter into the output, but the code was still interpreted at runtime.
If it has to be interpreted, it's not compiled - simple as that. It's just transformed into an intermediate state that still has to be interpreted, same as your old basic programs.
So junk food is good for you. You could even say it is "brain food."
Maybe it's because the adult skull is rigid - if large parts grew, you head would explode! Or at least your eyeballs would pop out.
I don't know - the thought of my brain cells continuing to divide makes my head 'splode!
Let's try one more time -
And if MASM64 is as bad as their previous iterations, no thanks. Too bad Borland went bye-bye.
Nice little troll account you've got going there. Too bad it's so obvious. Oh well, just another amateur ...
I've had plenty of Windows installs that failed - including the notorious NT reboots-itself-every-few-seconds-on-newer-hardware one way back when. USB distros are handy, not just for making sure everything just works, but also for:
Live CDs/DVDs also have the advantage of "ease of install" - you simply don't have to install at all. Just boot and run. And it's not like anyone can hose the system, no matter what they do, short of physical damage.
And having all sorts of stuff in the standard distros (servers and compilers and office suites, for example) is handy.
Before you get on your high horse about C# - the "compiler output" is Common Intermediate Language interpreted bytecode (CIL), not machine code - it has to be run through the Common Language Runtime (CLR). C# is no more a "compiled" language than java or perl.
Also, vbscript is now in bug-fix-only mode. No new releases planned, ever.
Last time I updated this box (a couple of weeks ago - a fresh install of opensuse on a new partition), there were 12 GIGS of new files and updates (yes, I installed pretty much everything except the kitchen sink -and that's only because I couldn't find kitchen_sink.svn.2009.09.13_unstable in the repository - not even in packman.de) - done over the net, via cable modem, and it didn't take 20 hours ...
The problem with Windows is code cruft, pure and simple. You can see it on slower machines, for example when the desktop needlessly calls routines to refresh multiple times (a bug that's been there since at least Win95b, made it into XP, and is still present in Vista) because of badly audited code to invalidate regions and coalesce updates.
"Too big to fail" has become "too big to manage".
Right, because we all know that viruses don't matter to Windows users - because if they really cared about viruses, they would be running a different OS.
Well, that's one way to look at it.
The other way is that they CAN'T run off a USB key, so it doesn't matter - but if they could, how many would? It would be nice to take your apps and desktop settings with you wherever you go, and with 16 gig usb keys for $25, it's cheap enough.
That's got to be the weirdest/funniest thing I've read in a while ...
Hope you don't drop the stack and get them mixed up ... that would give a REAL "stack error."
No, I'm not changing my story in any shape, manner or form. It's YOU who made false claims, and now are unable to back them up in the face of additional facts.
The only "ambiguity" here is someone hiding as an AC.
The fact that your arguments are as fucktarded as the defendants is the point - read the story. No ambiguity on either count.
I'm used to it :-) There are more than a few birthers/deathers who hate everything I write that points out that we can't just blithely go on and hope that the rapture will solve everything we managed to screw up (just check out my freaks list - there's more than 100 people there)
The "have-not" countries aren't going to go for cap and trade - why should they put their domestic markets at a disadvantage, if the US won't cut back on its' resource consumption, and continues unfair agriculture subsidies that devastate markets for local farmers in their own countries, forcing them to import food that they would otherwise grow themselves? It's just dumping under another name, and they know it.
The whole last decade of stupidity was caused by a culture of greed, entitlement, and short-sightedness. A culture that encouraged the mindset that you don't have to actually produce something of value, just load up on debt and pretend you're an "investor." The millions of people who thought nothing of committing criminal acts such as fraud by lying on their mortgage applications, those who knowingly enabled them, those who knew it was ultimately unsustainable but did it because "everyone else is doing it", and those who now defend any sort of bail-out for any of them - even Warren Buffet is profiting from the bail-out (which explains why he pushed so hard for it).
This is the new "American Way" - irresponsible, avoiding the clearly foreseeable consequences of your actions, and getting others to pay for them. Where the "fix" for the debt problem is still more debt - which just compounds the problem. Shove the problem onto the next generation, same as energy and pollution. And don't fix health care - not as long as "I've got mine, Jack!"
Like all problems, this one will self-correct. The cost will be high - it'll probably involve both the default of the US on its' debt, which, along with environental and social crisis, will set in motion the eventual break-up over the next 50 years into several regional "nations" - maybe under a new US Federation, maybe some joining Canada and Mexico; who can say for sure at this time?
But yes, it's a reference to the moral and social decay that allowed a whole nation to destroy their economic future in what devolved into a get-rich-quick Ponzi scheme.
Wow, Where do you get one of those 42,000 RPM drives?
Who says they didn't?
Failed and corrupted installs, upgrades, and ones that were abandoned because they took more than 24 hours? I'm sure at least a few people here have more than a TB of pr0n^Wdata on their drives.
What CEO has 650 GB of pr0n on his machine? The one who is going to give you a nice raise when you find it while copying their "data" over - or fire your ass asap!
Seriously, if the CEO is male, he has porn on at least one machine.
Well, I've got it on 5-1/4" floppies. Ditto for Windows 3.0 and DOS 6, 5, and even 3.something_or_other.
I finally threw out the single-sided, 8-sector floppies a decade or so ago. Maybe it's time to do another culling ... mind you, they were still readable back in 1997 (last time I checked, just for the heck of it). Now I don't even know if I have an old working 5-1/4 drive still kicking around.
Apples and oranges comparison.
The various distros throw in an office suite, image tools, tons of other apps, servers, several browsers, compilers, interpreters, etc., and a system to keep ALL of them up to date. What does Microsoft throw in? wordpad and paint. No perl, no python, no php, no apache, ONE browser, no compiler, no package management outside of its' own applications ...
And forget about trialing it off a bootable cd or usb key to see if it does what you want or breaks on your hardware ...
[citation needed]
This is true ... and the rapid abandonment by corporations is having a huge negative impact now, after people abandoned their caution and took part in the global debt frenzy. They'd be better off financially now if the Celtic Tiger had never happened. At least they would better afford to drink their sorrows away.
We're all paying for the last decade's foolishness, and so will the next generation.
You know nothing.
You are a fucking retard. It won't unless you KNOW that the radar was taken the exact same time that the GPS data was taken. There is NO radar or lidar gun out there that will automatically query and sync with the perp's onboard GPS. You can change your speed a LOT in that 30-second window. For example, accelerate to 60mph, get hit by the radar cop, then slow down again to 45 mph.
The judge has to deal in facts. GPS readings that aren't synced to the radar gun time-wise, are not a "fact" about how fast the perp was going when the radar caught him at time B. They're only a "fact" about how fast he was going at time A and time C. They might set upper and lower bounds for his speed at time B, bt they don't "prove" anything else.
All that they have is that at SOME point in time, not necessarily the time when the radar lit the perp up (maybe 15 seconds before and 15 seconds after, or 20 seconds before and 10 seconds after), there was GPS data showing certain speeds. Unless you can prove that the GPS data was taken simultaneously with the radar reading, you have no "proof."
Don't even bother going back to school to learn basic principles of logic - it's obviously beyond you.
You remind me of the people who turn onto train tracks and get creamed because the GPS said "turn right now" and they did ... rather than at the next street. Real Darwin Award material.