As that seems very unlikely to be true, the researchers conclude that the wavefunction must be physically real
I could go back a couple of centuries and make the same flawed logical argument - "as it is unlikely that the earth moves, therefore it MUST be the center of the universe."
The case you pointed out were against company policy and the people involved were punished. Sort of messes up your lies that the companies do these things. Trying to hold a company responsible for a rogue employee who violates company policy, and fires them when its found out, that's like arguing the post office is responsible when an employee goes postal, or that a school is responsible when a shooter walks in and starts firing. You'll always have problems in any large enough organization.
And remember - YOU are the one who started with the insults. Not me. So, you might want to re-think your criticisms of my giving back as good is I get, lard-head.
BUT - you claimed to have witnessed these incidents personally, and you failed to report them, making you complicit. Remember that - you made the claim, then you tried to modify it, and now you STILL refuse to back it up. You complain that something is corrupt, when you by your own admission are a BIG part of the problem.
Then again, freetards are not noted for logic. It's one reason why Torvalds refuses to say that he does open source software any more - he doesn't want to be associated the extremists nutjobs who think it's some sort of quasi-religion.
2. The xbox hardware problems stemmed from decisions he was responsible for as CEO, and "missing the internet" was also on his watch.
3. Microsoft invested in Apple to keep it afloat because of anti-trust concerns. Microsoft argued that Apple did provide competition i an attempt to get out of the anti-trust fiasco. The anti-trust problem was caused by decisions made by Bill Gates, as was the decision to buy Apple shares. Microsoft wouldn't be experiencing Apple Envy if Bill Gates hadn't acted illegally in the first place in preserving and extending Microsofts' monopoly.
After all, if bad behavior can be so easily detected, Bill Gates and Steve Balmer would both be flagged - and having been flagged repeatedly, be the target of employee lawsuits for creating a toxic work environment. Bring it on!!!
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Mobile traffic will never overtake desktop/laptop traffic.
Here's the thing - why do people now not consider laptops to be "mobile" devices? They most certainly are... I've taken my 17" all over the place (I like the full-sized keyboard, decent screen size, twin hard drives, and separate number pad)
"Traffic" is a poor metric, when we're moving back to downloading and running applications locally. I don't see the browser lasting another decade, because everything it does can be replaced by local applications. Imagine if you didn't have to hit 20 different servers and download 800k of junk just to display this page - just fetch the data and let your local application render it. No more "slashdot @$@$$#@!####@@ the site again!" I'd settle for a simple news reader interface with the ability to display inline images over this crapfest. You'd be able to search locally, fetch only new posts, keep as much history as you wanted, etc.
It's the same with things like google docs. Sure, you can use them - but why bother? "Oh, we'll fix it so you can have persistent data stored on your local computer when you're not connected!" sort of torpedoes their whole "nothing is stored locally so if your computer gets stolen your data is still safe in TehCLOWDZ". And it only takes one browser exploit to get your passwords hijacked and your company's shared data shared more than you would like.
Android will eventually expose the whole OS to end users, not just the "Android Interface". They'll have no choice - not when devices from Microsoft will be giving people both options and letting them run any software they want (one of my friends has such a tablet and he loves it - an Android or iPad would be crippleware to him). At that point, the desktop version of flash player will be just fine. And really, who wants to run a game in a browser when you can run it right on the desktop?
And the best part? Once tablets are running the full desktop, Oracle can't hit the manufacturer up for "mobile" licensing. The terms of the license (I looked them up yesterday) only require fees for dedicated devices. If it can run a full office suite, do email, and surf the web, it can use the regular desktop JRE. If it can act as a server, it can use the regular desktop JRE. Only devices that have limited, dedicated functionality, as opposed to general-purpose computers, need to take a paid license.
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Ergo, the death of flash will just promote the rise of a new plugin to compensate for the inadequacies of HTML5. Just like SWF and Flash came about to compensate for the problems with HTML.
What is this "death of flash" nonsense? Adobe isn't dropping flash - just stopping with trying to keep up with flash with all the different mobile platforms. Flash3d is where it's at now. Sure, today it only runs on desktops, but within 3 to 5 years, all mobile platforms that have enough screen space will also supply a complete "desktop experience."
Why do you think Microsoft is putting out their whole MetroUI thing? It's their trojan horse to get people to install their OS on mobile devices, then let them run desktop applications as well. They're just doing their embrace and extend routine a bit smarter this time.
The consequence is that the other vendors (Android and Apple) will also have to offer the full desktop as an alternate interface. And that means that flash will run on most machines with no need for a "mobile version." Adobe is just being smarter than the retards (like Mark Shuttleworth) who think that the current platform is not going to change much in the next 3 to 5 years in terms of what it can do.
We already have quad-cpu tablets and dual-cpu phones.
To both you and the parent poster, this is not a "boy's club". Of course, only little boys think that they need a "boys club". So again, back up your claim that Oracle and Microsoft, contrary to their published policies concerning gifts and bribes, gave bribes in the form of gifts.
Because we all know now that you're just a lying schmuck, out of your league, can't even get your story straight, every time you try to embellish it or patch a hole in it you just dig yourself in deeper. Amateur. But keep on - you're a good example of why we need to publicly put down freetards like mad dogs if open source is going to have any credibility with the masses.
Oracle employees generally may accept
unsolicited gifts or other business
courtesies from actual or potential
customers, suppliers, or other business
partners provided they are not of
material value and are not given with the
purpose of influencing oneâs judgment.
It is never appropriate to solicit gifts or
other courtesies directly or indirectly. If
you are offered a gift or other business
courtesy of material value from an
individual, firm, or representative of
a firm who has or seeks a business
relationship with Oracle, you must
demonstrate that the gift could not
be construed as an attempt by the
offering party to secure favorable treatment.
You must obtain written approval
from the Senior Vice President of your
organization and from your Regional
Compliance & Ethics Officer before
accepting the gift.
As an example, on page 14 they say that if a vendor sends them a gift certificate at their home "because it's the holidays", they have to return it to the vendor along with a note explaining that Oracle's policy forbids it.
Microsoft prohibits corruption of government officials and the payments of bribes or kickbacks of any kind, whether in dealings with public officials or individuals in the private sector.
You keep trying to weasel out of proving what you said. Prove your claim that Oracle or Microsoft engage in bribes via inappropriate gifts, since both companies have policies against bribes, including gifts. Name ONE instance, since you (falsely) claim to have seen this when you (allegedly) "worked for telcos, banks, and insurance."
Also no logic. Are you a chick?
Riiiight, after all, women are not logical.... and yet, you're the one who keeps looking like an idiot, trying to lie his way out of things. Oh, and now we can add misogynist to the list of your character flaws.
- you are an IDIOT as well. Bribes are given left, right and center, not in the form of money even, but as gifts and expensive trips and tickets. It's done INSIDE PRIVATE COMPANIES, you moron. This is not a government issue, there is nothing CRIMINAL about it,
So, now you want us all to believe that no government ever bought anything from Oracle or Microsoft? You're such an idiot. Keep back-pedaling... it's fun to watch you drowning in your own BS.
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The real problem is that HTML5+CSS+Javascript is going to have to do a lot of work to even approximate the capabilities of a regular application. Why settle for an overly-complicated development model that will always be second best?
Better yet - follow the money. People are developing native apps for app stores. Web-based apps will always be the bastard red-headed step-child, and will never inherit the kingdom. And ccs3 doesn't cover the problem of you exposing all your code to the end user plus every competitor out there who will make a me-too because they think that you might make some money, so they might make some money too.
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Nobody will be supporting mobile apps within 10 years, because all mobile devices except for the very lowest entry-level ones will be able to run desktop software.
The reason is simple - as entry-level devices get smarter, the only way to maintain margins on higher-end devices will be to make them more capable. Microsoft isn't stupid - MetroUI isn't about making a tablet interface - it's a trojan for eventually getting the full-blown Windows OS onto tablets. It's their first smart original idea since... well, forever... and it's going to be effective.
This is where going with iOS instead of a cut-down OSX is going to bite Apple. It's also going to be somewhat of a problem for Android (though not as much, since the underlying OS - a heavily modded version of linux - is still going to be able to be modded to expose the underbelly to non-android applications.
"General Purpose Desktop Computers and Servers"
means computers, including desktop and laptop computers, or servers,
used for general computing functions under end user control (such as
but not specifically limited to email, general purpose Internet
browsing, and office suite productivity tools).
If it's running a desktop OS, runs desktop programs, can even look like a desktop in terms of the general form factor (screen + optional keyboard + mouse), you're good to go. And of course, now that we can use things like Wiimotes and kinects (and my laptop comes with a remote control of its own), the use of alternate input devices - including touch screens - is irrelevant.
Additionally, since the mobile restrictions only apply to dedicated devices:
The use of Software
in systems and solutions that provide dedicated functionality... or designed for use in embedded or
function-specific software applications... (long list of dedicated devices, including mobile phones)... are excluded from this definition and not licensed under this Agreement.
... smartphones are already "general enough" that you could get away with installing desktop java on them - you can use them all day without making a single phone call - I'm surprised that Google hasn't thrown that at Oracle.
The real problem is going to be the same as always - once people find that they can run their Windows programs on certain mobile devices, those are the devices that they're going to buy. But that's several years down the road (though closer than you'd think).
You'r so full of sj*t - you forgot to check the "post anonymously: when you wrote this
I can't stand their guts because of all the BRIBERY that I saw.
So, either you're a crook yourself - after all, you claim to have seen criminal activity and not reported it - or you're just a lying freetard. Our you're both.
So again, back up your claims about bribes. Liar.
I really should have hit preview ...
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I meant:
For example:
.. instead of
And no, it doesn't matter if your tag conflicts with a tag that's defined in the new spec, with 4 exceptions: html, head, body, and title. The spec is flawed in that you can only have one title tag, and yet we see real-world examples every day with stuff with multiple titles - anthologies, the the front page of the newspaper, magazines (all of which every story has a title)... chapters in books, which can also have titles, etc. This is a serious flaw in the spec, because it means that you have to use less-intuitive names instead of "title", such as storytitle, articletitle, sectiontitle, etc. The parent-child relationship should have been sufficient to differentiate between them, but the spec is the spec, no matter how much it sucks (just look at the original menu and dir tags).
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I'm (ab)using it by making my own tag names instead of divs to enhance readability, etc.
For example: <SomeCustomTag> </SomeCustomTag>
.. instead of <div class=SomeCustomTag> </SomeCustomTag>
It's now supported in all browsers, AND there's a loophole in the current spec that allows it - though I don't think that's what they had in mind:-)
Advantages: Easier to find the end tag, more self-documenting, and you don't have to specify a class=whatever in the tag to style it - it can be styled in the css file, same as any "approved" tag.
But yes, the heavy lifting is going to have to be done using a programming language, either up-front, or behind the scenes of you're using a tool that supports declarative syntax and then "writes the glue code" (and it's this latter that Adobe is developing). And of course, Flash is not dead - Adobe is just not developing it for mobile any more because there are just too many different handheld devices - and besides, within 3 years, handhelds will mostly support full desktop functionality anyway, since that's going to be the next big thing in differentiating devices (MetoUI is just the first step towards this dual-ui functionality). The goal is to eventually kill the browser dead - same thing Apple is doing with the App Store and Google is doing with Android apps.
Just remember - you started it. Don't start what you can't finish. BTW - we're still waiting for you to produce any evidence for your claims that Oracle or Microsoft have bribed people.
You made the claims, but you're doing everything you can to avoid backing them up. Typical big-mouthed zealot - long on rhetoric, short on facts.
You said you knew of incidents where Oracle or Microsoft had bribed people... so put up or shut up.
Or you can keep on providing me with opportunities to show how much of a stupid liar you are... because a smart liar would at least pick an easier target.
So, show us some proof of your claims.
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essentially, the browser is now the new plugin.
Sad, but true. And we saw how that model played out with Google's Chromebooks. A bunch of hype, then.... nothing. Even people who spend most of their time using a browser will find that 5%-10% of the time when they need more than a browser to be a deal-breaker - especially now that standard laptops that can do more are selling for less.
People haven't yet caught on that the browser is on the way out. The "app craze" is the camel's nose. If there's an app for everything and everywhere, including for discovering sites, and instead of downloading a mess of html+javascript+css every time you visit a site, you can just grab an updates to its' app on the fly, why would you need a browser?
That's one good thing about flash - run the same code in the flash player, and you've got a full-screen app (it's how I wrote a game that works on pretty much everything, including the Wii, with zero code to do crap like browser sniffing or dynamic scaling. Flash might suck, but html5+css+javascript+dom sucks even more for anything but web pages).
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1. Optimization is never over. JavaScript is ridiculously fast now compared to 2005.
"ridiculously fast now compared to 2005" is still 'ridiculously slow" compared to pretty much everything else - and WAY slower than flash on the same machine. Go compare a flash game from 2005 the javascript+html5 implementation. You're going backwards with HTML5.
2. Cry more, faggot. Nobody's entitled to a particular business model.
And nobody is entitled to demand that developers use HTML5+Javascript when there's something better that supports their particular needs and/or business model, such as Flash, Java, or c/c++/objective-c/c#, or whatever, and that will also run just fine without the restrictions of the browser and the sucky DOM model. And flash is a lot more cross-browser than HTML5+javascript+css right now, so bite me.
3. HTML5 is a standard FOR DISPLAYING WEB PAGES. What a SHOCK and OUTRAGE it is that you need a web browser for that!
Which makes it inappropriate for anything but a web page. Not for building apps, not for video, not for dynamic content. Which is why flash, java, python, perl, c/c++, etc., will continue to exist for building applications ("apps").
4. At least there is a standard...
No, there isn't. That's the problem. The HTML5 spec is still in the process of being worked out.
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The problems with "HTML5 has won the web"
1. Its performance is crappy at best.
2. It exposes too much of the source for people who want to make a living off their code. It's bad enough with Flash and Java decompilers...
3. Unlike Flash, Python, Perl, Tcl.TK, C, C++, Java, etc., HTML5 needs a browser - and browsers are themselves a crappy - and inconsistent - host environment, so you also inherit any security and bug problems from the browser.
4. The standard for HTML5 is not yet even finished.
Sure, you can write applications in HTML5 (I'm writing one now) - but it's a crappy way to write a program. The DOM might be okay for documents (hence the "D" in Document Object Model) but it's a real impedance mismatch for anything else.
If it's going to be used to collapse underground complexes, the radiation will be contained. The problem is that you still need a penetrator - and that's going to be really heavy, and there's a good chance that the nuke won't survive intact, so conventional explosives are the solution.
The ideal solution would be a "drop flaming chunk of rock from outer space at 70,000 mph". Look at it this way - it would give an impetus to develop asteroid mining.
The poster in question is doing the "look through the target's last posts" and posting, both under their nic, and because they are in karma hell and limited to only a few posts a day, also anonymously.
I've been through this sort of thing more than a few times, and the people who do it are uniformly immature, no matter what their ages. They really do need to realize that life is a lot more complex, but they can't - they're too psychologically invested in a black-and-white world, with no shades of grey and no nuances. Most of the time, they go away after a few days to a few months (it's possible to apply game theory to this sort of problem, which is what dictates the form of my responses... basically, call them out on their lies - there are always lies - and treat them as you would a spoiled rotten brat).
Of course, there's always the exception. The one time that the police got involved (it was the stalkers' employer who called them in, not me) the person doing the harassment was fired. The police officer asked me if I wanted to pursue further action wrt the cyberstalking, and I said basically "They're an idiot, they've been punished sufficiently by being fired, they won't be doing it again, so it's all good."
Now, on the use of the term "freetard" - this is something that I thought about for a while before whole-heartedly adopting it after RMS did his uncouth dump the day after Jobs died. If we are going to make open software generally acceptable, we need to lose the freetards, and the only way that's going to happen is if we ourselves actively oppose them. This includes labeling them as such, so that people know we're not all "programmers don't deserve to make a living you should just write free code because otherwise you're evil and people should steal your code" like RMS publicly says (I've posted links to speeches on the FSFE web site where he actually says that people should pirate closed-source software because if you work on closed-source software, you're evil. That's more than just retarded - that's the essence of the freetard, and when stripped to those basics, it's obvious that it's retarded:-)
So we have three choices.
1. Publicly disavow the whole freetard philosophy, labeling people who adopt freetard stands and exposing the often-nasty tactics such as demonizing their opponents (as RMS continues to do) as freetards;
2. Be silent, because otherwise the freetards will attack you (and we all have our vulnerabilities, and many will quite naturally figure it's not worth the risk or hassle);
3. Try to "bargain" with them, which, while reasonable, doesn't work with zealots. Their hierarchy of needs is not the same as a non-zealot, which is why being reasonable just doesn't work. "With reasonable people, try reason. With unreasonable people, try something else." They see it as a zero-sum game, with no "win-win" scenarios possible. You can't convince them, you can't reason with them, you can't bargain with them - but you CAN outlast them. If it happens often enough, then sometimes a lightbulb will go on and they'll chance a win-win. But if you don't challenge them, that will never happen, and we all end up a bit poorer.
Of course, I'm willing to hear counter-arguments or other thoughts... like anything else, YMMV, and it's not black or white.
No, nowhere in this thread have I even mentioned Oracle, you silly moron. However, YOU have made the claim that both companies are involved in bribing people. I pointed out that bribery is a criminal offense, and that if you have knowledge of such crimes (which you claimed to have) that you had a legal obligation to report it, or you yourself are aiding and abetting - so either you're a liar, or a crook. Your own words condemn you to this Hobson's choice.
So, which are you, a whiney lying freetard who makes things up, or a crook? Either way, you're just some fat loser.
We don't know that for sure yet... courts can do strange things. Like if someone is tresspassing and hurts themselves, they can sue you and win [citation].
Just like if someone steals your car and takes friends for a joy-ride, the passengers can sue you when they get hurt in a crash, or if a couple of drunks get into a fight in your washroom, they can sue you because you didn't stop the fight [citation]
Don't like it that most of the people who believe in open source software think that RMS is doing more harm than good with his public demeanor, his lack of personal hygiene, his attitude towards women, children, and families? Too bad, so sad, SUX 2B U.
Don't like it that the people who are actually producing stuff, like Linus Torvalds, said that freetards should grow up and stop the Microsoft-hating? Again, who cares except other freetards.
I don't have to prove anything to you, prick. What I saw is enough for me, you go ahead and move on, dickhead.
Oh looky looky, someone is really angry that when they make an accusation and they're told to back it up or STFU.
You didn't "see anything" in terms of criminal behavior by any such corporation - if you did, and you didn't report it, you're an enabler. Instead, you're just another freetard who can't accept that people like Linus Torvalds have no problem with cooperating with companies like Microsoft to advance technology.
Grow up. Do you actually eat food with that mouth?
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Pretty much anything by Heinlein is an excellent read. For those who haven't been introduced to his works, here's what's probably the best short-story time travel story ever written. (All You Zombies - pdf)
I could go back a couple of centuries and make the same flawed logical argument - "as it is unlikely that the earth moves, therefore it MUST be the center of the universe."
The case you pointed out were against company policy and the people involved were punished. Sort of messes up your lies that the companies do these things. Trying to hold a company responsible for a rogue employee who violates company policy, and fires them when its found out, that's like arguing the post office is responsible when an employee goes postal, or that a school is responsible when a shooter walks in and starts firing. You'll always have problems in any large enough organization.
And remember - YOU are the one who started with the insults. Not me. So, you might want to re-think your criticisms of my giving back as good is I get, lard-head.
BUT - you claimed to have witnessed these incidents personally, and you failed to report them, making you complicit. Remember that - you made the claim, then you tried to modify it, and now you STILL refuse to back it up. You complain that something is corrupt, when you by your own admission are a BIG part of the problem.
Then again, freetards are not noted for logic. It's one reason why Torvalds refuses to say that he does open source software any more - he doesn't want to be associated the extremists nutjobs who think it's some sort of quasi-religion.
1. Bill Gates is on the board of directors.
2. The xbox hardware problems stemmed from decisions he was responsible for as CEO, and "missing the internet" was also on his watch.
3. Microsoft invested in Apple to keep it afloat because of anti-trust concerns. Microsoft argued that Apple did provide competition i an attempt to get out of the anti-trust fiasco. The anti-trust problem was caused by decisions made by Bill Gates, as was the decision to buy Apple shares. Microsoft wouldn't be experiencing Apple Envy if Bill Gates hadn't acted illegally in the first place in preserving and extending Microsofts' monopoly.
After all, if bad behavior can be so easily detected, Bill Gates and Steve Balmer would both be flagged - and having been flagged repeatedly, be the target of employee lawsuits for creating a toxic work environment. Bring it on!!!
Mobile traffic will never overtake desktop/laptop traffic.
Here's the thing - why do people now not consider laptops to be "mobile" devices? They most certainly are ... I've taken my 17" all over the place (I like the full-sized keyboard, decent screen size, twin hard drives, and separate number pad)
"Traffic" is a poor metric, when we're moving back to downloading and running applications locally. I don't see the browser lasting another decade, because everything it does can be replaced by local applications. Imagine if you didn't have to hit 20 different servers and download 800k of junk just to display this page - just fetch the data and let your local application render it. No more "slashdot @$@$$#@!####@@ the site again!" I'd settle for a simple news reader interface with the ability to display inline images over this crapfest. You'd be able to search locally, fetch only new posts, keep as much history as you wanted, etc.
It's the same with things like google docs. Sure, you can use them - but why bother? "Oh, we'll fix it so you can have persistent data stored on your local computer when you're not connected!" sort of torpedoes their whole "nothing is stored locally so if your computer gets stolen your data is still safe in TehCLOWDZ". And it only takes one browser exploit to get your passwords hijacked and your company's shared data shared more than you would like.
Android will eventually expose the whole OS to end users, not just the "Android Interface". They'll have no choice - not when devices from Microsoft will be giving people both options and letting them run any software they want (one of my friends has such a tablet and he loves it - an Android or iPad would be crippleware to him). At that point, the desktop version of flash player will be just fine. And really, who wants to run a game in a browser when you can run it right on the desktop?
And the best part? Once tablets are running the full desktop, Oracle can't hit the manufacturer up for "mobile" licensing. The terms of the license (I looked them up yesterday) only require fees for dedicated devices. If it can run a full office suite, do email, and surf the web, it can use the regular desktop JRE. If it can act as a server, it can use the regular desktop JRE. Only devices that have limited, dedicated functionality, as opposed to general-purpose computers, need to take a paid license.
What is this "death of flash" nonsense? Adobe isn't dropping flash - just stopping with trying to keep up with flash with all the different mobile platforms. Flash3d is where it's at now. Sure, today it only runs on desktops, but within 3 to 5 years, all mobile platforms that have enough screen space will also supply a complete "desktop experience."
Why do you think Microsoft is putting out their whole MetroUI thing? It's their trojan horse to get people to install their OS on mobile devices, then let them run desktop applications as well. They're just doing their embrace and extend routine a bit smarter this time.
The consequence is that the other vendors (Android and Apple) will also have to offer the full desktop as an alternate interface. And that means that flash will run on most machines with no need for a "mobile version." Adobe is just being smarter than the retards (like Mark Shuttleworth) who think that the current platform is not going to change much in the next 3 to 5 years in terms of what it can do.
We already have quad-cpu tablets and dual-cpu phones.
Because we all know now that you're just a lying schmuck, out of your league, can't even get your story straight, every time you try to embellish it or patch a hole in it you just dig yourself in deeper. Amateur. But keep on - you're a good example of why we need to publicly put down freetards like mad dogs if open source is going to have any credibility with the masses.
Again trying to avoid proving what you claimed. You're such a liar, and SO easy to prove you're a liar. PROVE that Oracle or Microsoft bribed someone.
Name names, dates, and the type of gift. Both Microsoft and Oracle have policies about that.
Oracle's Code of Ethics and Business Conduct - see page 13 - Gifts
As an example, on page 14 they say that if a vendor sends them a gift certificate at their home "because it's the holidays", they have to return it to the vendor along with a note explaining that Oracle's policy forbids it.
Microsoft's Code of Business Conduct
So, again, since Microsoft prohibits all bribes or kickbacks, even in the private sector, or gifts totaling more than $200 per year under any circumstances, put up or shut up.
You keep trying to weasel out of proving what you said. Prove your claim that Oracle or Microsoft engage in bribes via inappropriate gifts, since both companies have policies against bribes, including gifts. Name ONE instance, since you (falsely) claim to have seen this when you (allegedly) "worked for telcos, banks, and insurance."
Riiiight, after all, women are not logical .... and yet, you're the one who keeps looking like an idiot, trying to lie his way out of things. Oh, and now we can add misogynist to the list of your character flaws.
So, now you want us all to believe that no government ever bought anything from Oracle or Microsoft? You're such an idiot. Keep back-pedaling ... it's fun to watch you drowning in your own BS.
Better yet - follow the money. People are developing native apps for app stores. Web-based apps will always be the bastard red-headed step-child, and will never inherit the kingdom. And ccs3 doesn't cover the problem of you exposing all your code to the end user plus every competitor out there who will make a me-too because they think that you might make some money, so they might make some money too.
Nobody will be supporting mobile apps within 10 years, because all mobile devices except for the very lowest entry-level ones will be able to run desktop software.
The reason is simple - as entry-level devices get smarter, the only way to maintain margins on higher-end devices will be to make them more capable. Microsoft isn't stupid - MetroUI isn't about making a tablet interface - it's a trojan for eventually getting the full-blown Windows OS onto tablets. It's their first smart original idea since ... well, forever ... and it's going to be effective.
This is where going with iOS instead of a cut-down OSX is going to bite Apple. It's also going to be somewhat of a problem for Android (though not as much, since the underlying OS - a heavily modded version of linux - is still going to be able to be modded to expose the underbelly to non-android applications.
The can be worked around by making mobile devices that have enough functionality to replace desktops, which are specifically approved (or laptops, which are mobile devices, but also approved),
If it's running a desktop OS, runs desktop programs, can even look like a desktop in terms of the general form factor (screen + optional keyboard + mouse), you're good to go. And of course, now that we can use things like Wiimotes and kinects (and my laptop comes with a remote control of its own), the use of alternate input devices - including touch screens - is irrelevant.
Additionally, since the mobile restrictions only apply to dedicated devices:
The real problem is going to be the same as always - once people find that they can run their Windows programs on certain mobile devices, those are the devices that they're going to buy. But that's several years down the road (though closer than you'd think).
So, either you're a crook yourself - after all, you claim to have seen criminal activity and not reported it - or you're just a lying freetard. Our you're both.
So again, back up your claims about bribes. Liar.
For example:
.. instead of
And no, it doesn't matter if your tag conflicts with a tag that's defined in the new spec, with 4 exceptions: html, head, body, and title. The spec is flawed in that you can only have one title tag, and yet we see real-world examples every day with stuff with multiple titles - anthologies, the the front page of the newspaper, magazines (all of which every story has a title) ... chapters in books, which can also have titles, etc. This is a serious flaw in the spec, because it means that you have to use less-intuitive names instead of "title", such as storytitle, articletitle, sectiontitle, etc. The parent-child relationship should have been sufficient to differentiate between them, but the spec is the spec, no matter how much it sucks (just look at the original menu and dir tags).
For example: <SomeCustomTag> </SomeCustomTag>
.. instead of <div class=SomeCustomTag> </SomeCustomTag>
It's now supported in all browsers, AND there's a loophole in the current spec that allows it - though I don't think that's what they had in mind :-)
Advantages: Easier to find the end tag, more self-documenting, and you don't have to specify a class=whatever in the tag to style it - it can be styled in the css file, same as any "approved" tag.
But yes, the heavy lifting is going to have to be done using a programming language, either up-front, or behind the scenes of you're using a tool that supports declarative syntax and then "writes the glue code" (and it's this latter that Adobe is developing). And of course, Flash is not dead - Adobe is just not developing it for mobile any more because there are just too many different handheld devices - and besides, within 3 years, handhelds will mostly support full desktop functionality anyway, since that's going to be the next big thing in differentiating devices (MetoUI is just the first step towards this dual-ui functionality). The goal is to eventually kill the browser dead - same thing Apple is doing with the App Store and Google is doing with Android apps.
Just remember - you started it. Don't start what you can't finish. BTW - we're still waiting for you to produce any evidence for your claims that Oracle or Microsoft have bribed people.
You made the claims, but you're doing everything you can to avoid backing them up. Typical big-mouthed zealot - long on rhetoric, short on facts.
You said you knew of incidents where Oracle or Microsoft had bribed people ... so put up or shut up.
Or you can keep on providing me with opportunities to show how much of a stupid liar you are ... because a smart liar would at least pick an easier target.
So, show us some proof of your claims.
Sad, but true. And we saw how that model played out with Google's Chromebooks. A bunch of hype, then .... nothing. Even people who spend most of their time using a browser will find that 5%-10% of the time when they need more than a browser to be a deal-breaker - especially now that standard laptops that can do more are selling for less.
When I said that chromebooks were garbage nobody would want, everyone dumped on me - and yet, here we are, and even lousy sellers like the Blackberry Playbook beat it.
People haven't yet caught on that the browser is on the way out. The "app craze" is the camel's nose. If there's an app for everything and everywhere, including for discovering sites, and instead of downloading a mess of html+javascript+css every time you visit a site, you can just grab an updates to its' app on the fly, why would you need a browser?
That's one good thing about flash - run the same code in the flash player, and you've got a full-screen app (it's how I wrote a game that works on pretty much everything, including the Wii, with zero code to do crap like browser sniffing or dynamic scaling. Flash might suck, but html5+css+javascript+dom sucks even more for anything but web pages).
"ridiculously fast now compared to 2005" is still 'ridiculously slow" compared to pretty much everything else - and WAY slower than flash on the same machine. Go compare a flash game from 2005 the javascript+html5 implementation. You're going backwards with HTML5.
And nobody is entitled to demand that developers use HTML5+Javascript when there's something better that supports their particular needs and/or business model, such as Flash, Java, or c/c++/objective-c/c#, or whatever, and that will also run just fine without the restrictions of the browser and the sucky DOM model. And flash is a lot more cross-browser than HTML5+javascript+css right now, so bite me.
Which makes it inappropriate for anything but a web page. Not for building apps, not for video, not for dynamic content. Which is why flash, java, python, perl, c/c++, etc., will continue to exist for building applications ("apps").
No, there isn't. That's the problem. The HTML5 spec is still in the process of being worked out.
1. Its performance is crappy at best. ...
2. It exposes too much of the source for people who want to make a living off their code. It's bad enough with Flash and Java decompilers
3. Unlike Flash, Python, Perl, Tcl.TK, C, C++, Java, etc., HTML5 needs a browser - and browsers are themselves a crappy - and inconsistent - host environment, so you also inherit any security and bug problems from the browser.
4. The standard for HTML5 is not yet even finished.
Sure, you can write applications in HTML5 (I'm writing one now) - but it's a crappy way to write a program. The DOM might be okay for documents (hence the "D" in Document Object Model) but it's a real impedance mismatch for anything else.
Maybe it should be ... except ...
If it's going to be used to collapse underground complexes, the radiation will be contained. The problem is that you still need a penetrator - and that's going to be really heavy, and there's a good chance that the nuke won't survive intact, so conventional explosives are the solution.
The ideal solution would be a "drop flaming chunk of rock from outer space at 70,000 mph". Look at it this way - it would give an impetus to develop asteroid mining.
The poster in question is doing the "look through the target's last posts" and posting, both under their nic, and because they are in karma hell and limited to only a few posts a day, also anonymously.
I've been through this sort of thing more than a few times, and the people who do it are uniformly immature, no matter what their ages. They really do need to realize that life is a lot more complex, but they can't - they're too psychologically invested in a black-and-white world, with no shades of grey and no nuances. Most of the time, they go away after a few days to a few months (it's possible to apply game theory to this sort of problem, which is what dictates the form of my responses ... basically, call them out on their lies - there are always lies - and treat them as you would a spoiled rotten brat).
Of course, there's always the exception. The one time that the police got involved (it was the stalkers' employer who called them in, not me) the person doing the harassment was fired. The police officer asked me if I wanted to pursue further action wrt the cyberstalking, and I said basically "They're an idiot, they've been punished sufficiently by being fired, they won't be doing it again, so it's all good."
Now, on the use of the term "freetard" - this is something that I thought about for a while before whole-heartedly adopting it after RMS did his uncouth dump the day after Jobs died. If we are going to make open software generally acceptable, we need to lose the freetards, and the only way that's going to happen is if we ourselves actively oppose them. This includes labeling them as such, so that people know we're not all "programmers don't deserve to make a living you should just write free code because otherwise you're evil and people should steal your code" like RMS publicly says (I've posted links to speeches on the FSFE web site where he actually says that people should pirate closed-source software because if you work on closed-source software, you're evil. That's more than just retarded - that's the essence of the freetard, and when stripped to those basics, it's obvious that it's retarded :-)
So we have three choices.
1. Publicly disavow the whole freetard philosophy, labeling people who adopt freetard stands and exposing the often-nasty tactics such as demonizing their opponents (as RMS continues to do) as freetards;
2. Be silent, because otherwise the freetards will attack you (and we all have our vulnerabilities, and many will quite naturally figure it's not worth the risk or hassle);
3. Try to "bargain" with them, which, while reasonable, doesn't work with zealots. Their hierarchy of needs is not the same as a non-zealot, which is why being reasonable just doesn't work. "With reasonable people, try reason. With unreasonable people, try something else." They see it as a zero-sum game, with no "win-win" scenarios possible. You can't convince them, you can't reason with them, you can't bargain with them - but you CAN outlast them. If it happens often enough, then sometimes a lightbulb will go on and they'll chance a win-win. But if you don't challenge them, that will never happen, and we all end up a bit poorer.
Of course, I'm willing to hear counter-arguments or other thoughts ... like anything else, YMMV, and it's not black or white.
No, nowhere in this thread have I even mentioned Oracle, you silly moron. However, YOU have made the claim that both companies are involved in bribing people. I pointed out that bribery is a criminal offense, and that if you have knowledge of such crimes (which you claimed to have) that you had a legal obligation to report it, or you yourself are aiding and abetting - so either you're a liar, or a crook. Your own words condemn you to this Hobson's choice.
So, which are you, a whiney lying freetard who makes things up, or a crook? Either way, you're just some fat loser.
We don't know that for sure yet ... courts can do strange things. Like if someone is tresspassing and hurts themselves, they can sue you and win [citation].
Just like if someone steals your car and takes friends for a joy-ride, the passengers can sue you when they get hurt in a crash, or if a couple of drunks get into a fight in your washroom, they can sue you because you didn't stop the fight [citation]
And then there are these [citation]
Don't like it that most of the people who believe in open source software think that RMS is doing more harm than good with his public demeanor, his lack of personal hygiene, his attitude towards women, children, and families? Too bad, so sad, SUX 2B U.
Don't like it that the people who are actually producing stuff, like Linus Torvalds, said that freetards should grow up and stop the Microsoft-hating? Again, who cares except other freetards.
Oh looky looky, someone is really angry that when they make an accusation and they're told to back it up or STFU.
You didn't "see anything" in terms of criminal behavior by any such corporation - if you did, and you didn't report it, you're an enabler. Instead, you're just another freetard who can't accept that people like Linus Torvalds have no problem with cooperating with companies like Microsoft to advance technology.
Grow up. Do you actually eat food with that mouth?