"What happens when you get pulled over by a cop and you don't have a license on you or its faded?"
If its faded, its still valid (which makes me wonder if you even have a license - most licenses nowadays are a bit more durable - you know, plastified, picture, etc).
Awesome - so now we can ignore all those EULAs!!!!
You're wrong, of course - the certificate isn't the license. Otherwise, you would be able to transfer the license without transferring the software, etc.
Your "bad car analogy" also doesn't work - if I lose my copy of my driver's license, I don't have to take the test over to get a new license, just pay the handling fee (which is less than 1/10 the license, btw cost), have my picture taken again, and wait a few minutes.
> "Microsoft have every right to demand you agree by their license."
But the DON'T have the right to abuse their rights under that license. Demanding that you buy another copy because the certificate has become illegible, even though you have the original install CD, or that you hae the original receipt for the machine, is abusive, but that's what they do.
The can NOT just walk in without your permission. If they do, call the cops. Like everyone else, they need to make an appointment, they need to be supervised/escorted while on the premises, they need to sign an NDA, etc. If they don't, they have abused their license, and THEY are the ones who are at fault.
Heck, people don't have any brains any more. A city inspector showed up at my place one day - I tersely told him that he was wasting both of our time, that I knew the source of the"complaint" was a disgruntled neighbor, and to leave and only come back with a court order and a couple of cops to back it up, if he really wanted to waste everyone's time. He left, and that was the end of it.
Similarly at work, unless they have warrants, they're not getting in. Its a question of principle - you don't treat honest people like convicted crooks, and the BSA / CAAST do exactly that. People have this idea that "honest people have nothing to hide..." News flash - honest people don't like being treated like convicted criminals. Its insulting.
People have known about Microsoft's abuses for decades - if you're still running large segments of your business using Microsoft products, you have only yourself to blame for perpetuating the current situation, since there ARE alternatives.
So do Becta recommends - buy retail versions for only enough pcs as you need, switch everything else to open source, and tell them to take a hike.
Then when they come around to "check for compliance", you can tell them to take a hike, since you no longer need, (or have), an agreement that allows those sort of "audits." Let them go to court if they want to press the issue, and when the time comes, charge them for the use of staff time to monitor them, etc.
You'll save a lot more than any "per-seat discount licensing" scheme.
> "The alternative, of course, would be that MS performs a full audit, and if they find anything, even legal software for which the school can't find the receipt, they will force the school to pay fines and the full cost of the audit, which can cost many tens of thousands of dollars (or the equivalent in pounds sterling)."
Bullcrap. The ONLY one who can issue an enforceable fine is a judge.
> "The problem was that Microsoft required schools to have licenses for every PC in a school that might use its software, whether they were actually doing so or running something else."
Microsoft can't "require" this. Same as the BSA or CAAST can't just show up at your doorstep and "require" anything. Not even a "license audit."
In summer of 1997, he was interviewed by Microsoft for a job in the Internet Explorer Unix team (to work on a SPARC port), but lacked the university degree required to obtain a work H-1B visa.
"Second, I can't tell you how many times my Gnome configuration has broken after a major upgrade"
I can't either, simply because I rarely use gnome. For all I know, my current gnome configuration could be completely b0rked. It's only there as a fallback...
>"How many people do you think would use Linux at ALL if Samba didn't allow communication to Windows boxes?
Linux users don't need samba to "communicate with Windows boxes." There's ftp, http, etc. - and its usually Windows users who want to communicate with linux boxes, not the other way around.
>" Or what if there was no way to read/write an NTFS partition?"
If you're a linux user, you probably don't care all that much - you keep your important data on your linux (ext3/reiserfs/whatever) partitions/drives. Or, like me, you don't have any ntfs (or even fat) partitions.
A couple of years ago, the Canadian dollar was worth less than 80 cents US. It's now worth more than a greenback. It's gone from $0.60 to $1.034, and there are some predictions that we could see it go to $2.00 within the next decade if the US doesn't get a grip on its deficit, and Canada continues to reduce its deficit and debt.
> "Why do they still call it the Federal government? I don't read an article and forget if it's totalitarian or democratic..."
Locals don't call it "the Federal government." It's "Them f'in' c*cks*ck*ng lyin' bastards in Ottawa, eh?"
Same as citizens in every other democracy. Because in Soviet Russia, when you call the government names, government calls YOU!
> "Bah. Tim Hortons went to shit after Wendys bought it. It'll continue until peoples psychological perceptions of the Tim Hortons brand finally catch up to reality. Such is the value of a good name in the modern economy."
Couldn't agree more. Cutting down the size of the donuts, mass-manufactured, frozen, shipped, then nuked at the store. Gross. The only thing worse is those Krispy Kreme lard/donuts.
You're losing 600 mph out of 18,000. So you lose 3-1/3% of your overall payload capacity. If you can save 5% on the overall budget because of the local labor market, etc., (or get subsidies that amount to the same) you're ahead of the game, and with $60m in subsidies already... do the math.
I'm not a Harper fan, and I wasn't a Bullwinke (Mulroney) fan, but it was the Conservatives who brought in the GST, which allowed the Liberals to accumulate the huge surpluses that went to pay down the federal deficit.
I would have liked to see the latest GST cut be handled differently - only a half-percent instead of 1%, and the rest earmarked for the deficit. After all, the quicker its paid off, the better, and the more of a cushion we have for the next economic downturn.
The problem with what you're saying is that most people won't know to delete only iexplorer.exe. Same with search - how are they going to delete just the one offending file, and keep the other libraries intact? So they're stuck with "The Microsoft Way".
"t is absolutely true that "Internet Explorer" (all the code that actually implements the web browser functionality) is integrated into the OS (OS in the sense that the majority of people understand it) and there are very sound and smart reasons for it to be the way it is."
There's a difference between having the libraries present, and REQUIRING that IE also be present.
There was no reason to make it so that removing IE removes the "integrated into the OS" functionality.
Same with search.
You can't have it both ways. You can't say both that IE is necessary, and that its "just a bunch of libraries." Ditto for search, and that's the problem here. Microsoft is again forcing people to "do it their way", to control what they do with their computers, rather than giving them the best product possible. Intentionally breaking stuff all the time only works when you're a monopoly.
Its like the situation back in the bad old days when companies would spend more trying to come up with copy-protection schemes for floppies than they would on the actual product - and it showed (and never stopped anyone with a transcoder controller board from copying the floppy, copy protection intact).
Your post is self-contradictory. The chunks of code that are used by IE and other programs should have been separated from IE into their own mudules, and only loaded as needed. That's what dynamically-loaded libraries are for. Under a proper software model, IE would not be required - just the shared libraries.
Your post makes me wonder if you've ever done ANY software development, or at least anything beyond, say, VB..
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"What happens when you get pulled over by a cop and you don't have a license on you or its faded?"
If its faded, its still valid (which makes me wonder if you even have a license - most licenses nowadays are a bit more durable - you know, plastified, picture, etc).
"The certificate is the license, not the CD."
Awesome - so now we can ignore all those EULAs!!!!
You're wrong, of course - the certificate isn't the license. Otherwise, you would be able to transfer the license without transferring the software, etc.
Your "bad car analogy" also doesn't work - if I lose my copy of my driver's license, I don't have to take the test over to get a new license, just pay the handling fee (which is less than 1/10 the license, btw cost), have my picture taken again, and wait a few minutes.
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Gee, it would be fun to see them try that in Canada ...
In Soviet Amerika Microsoft runs YOU!
> "Microsoft have every right to demand you agree by their license."
But the DON'T have the right to abuse their rights under that license. Demanding that you buy another copy because the certificate has become illegible, even though you have the original install CD, or that you hae the original receipt for the machine, is abusive, but that's what they do.
Stop being such sheeple.
Nothing relieves you of the responsibility of making backups.
Besides, rumour has it reiserfs is a real killer file system ...
The can NOT just walk in without your permission. If they do, call the cops. Like everyone else, they need to make an appointment, they need to be supervised/escorted while on the premises, they need to sign an NDA, etc. If they don't, they have abused their license, and THEY are the ones who are at fault.
Heck, people don't have any brains any more. A city inspector showed up at my place one day - I tersely told him that he was wasting both of our time, that I knew the source of the"complaint" was a disgruntled neighbor, and to leave and only come back with a court order and a couple of cops to back it up, if he really wanted to waste everyone's time. He left, and that was the end of it.
Similarly at work, unless they have warrants, they're not getting in. Its a question of principle - you don't treat honest people like convicted crooks, and the BSA / CAAST do exactly that. People have this idea that "honest people have nothing to hide ..." News flash - honest people don't like being treated like convicted criminals. Its insulting.
People have known about Microsoft's abuses for decades - if you're still running large segments of your business using Microsoft products, you have only yourself to blame for perpetuating the current situation, since there ARE alternatives.
So do Becta recommends - buy retail versions for only enough pcs as you need, switch everything else to open source, and tell them to take a hike.
Then when they come around to "check for compliance", you can tell them to take a hike, since you no longer need, (or have), an agreement that allows those sort of "audits." Let them go to court if they want to press the issue, and when the time comes, charge them for the use of staff time to monitor them, etc.
You'll save a lot more than any "per-seat discount licensing" scheme.
> "The alternative, of course, would be that MS performs a full audit, and if they find anything, even legal software for which the school can't find the receipt, they will force the school to pay fines and the full cost of the audit, which can cost many tens of thousands of dollars (or the equivalent in pounds sterling)."
Bullcrap. The ONLY one who can issue an enforceable fine is a judge.
> "The problem was that Microsoft required schools to have licenses for every PC in a school that might use its software, whether they were actually doing so or running something else."
Microsoft can't "require" this. Same as the BSA or CAAST can't just show up at your doorstep and "require" anything. Not even a "license audit."
Good for Becta.
>> Miguel interviewed for a job at MS
> I've heard that, but without, oh I dunno... a reference, it isn't that informative.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miguel_de_Icaza
(... crickets ...)
Of course, in the absence of any denial, we are always free to draw our conclusions by his actions:
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support for MS-OOXML as "a great standard"
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fan boy of Microsoft technology in general
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general brown-nosing towards Balmarsaurus
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On the take? I doubt it. Why pay a bribe to someone who is already in so many ways a "useful fool""Second, I can't tell you how many times my Gnome configuration has broken after a major upgrade"
I can't either, simply because I rarely use gnome. For all I know, my current gnome configuration could be completely b0rked. It's only there as a fallback ...
>"How many people do you think would use Linux at ALL if Samba didn't allow communication to Windows boxes?
Linux users don't need samba to "communicate with Windows boxes." There's ftp, http, etc. - and its usually Windows users who want to communicate with linux boxes, not the other way around.
>" Or what if there was no way to read/write an NTFS partition?"
If you're a linux user, you probably don't care all that much - you keep your important data on your linux (ext3/reiserfs/whatever) partitions/drives. Or, like me, you don't have any ntfs (or even fat) partitions.
Dildo, Newfoundland - its not "the size of a small town" - it IS a small town.
When it comes to funny names, it beats St. Louis du Ha!Ha!, Quebec (yes, the exclamation points are part of the name), Flin Flon, Manitoba, or Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan,
"Where you from?"
"Dildo."
"Who you calling a dildo, dickhead?"
A couple of years ago, the Canadian dollar was worth less than 80 cents US. It's now worth more than a greenback. It's gone from $0.60 to $1.034, and there are some predictions that we could see it go to $2.00 within the next decade if the US doesn't get a grip on its deficit, and Canada continues to reduce its deficit and debt.
> "Why do they still call it the Federal government? I don't read an article and forget if it's totalitarian or democratic..." Locals don't call it "the Federal government." It's "Them f'in' c*cks*ck*ng lyin' bastards in Ottawa, eh?"
Same as citizens in every other democracy. Because in Soviet Russia, when you call the government names, government calls YOU!
> "Bah. Tim Hortons went to shit after Wendys bought it. It'll continue until peoples psychological perceptions of the Tim Hortons brand finally catch up to reality. Such is the value of a good name in the modern economy."
Couldn't agree more. Cutting down the size of the donuts, mass-manufactured, frozen, shipped, then nuked at the store. Gross. The only thing worse is those Krispy Kreme lard/donuts.
Getting into a polar orbit, on the other hand ...
You're losing 600 mph out of 18,000. So you lose 3-1/3% of your overall payload capacity. If you can save 5% on the overall budget because of the local labor market, etc., (or get subsidies that amount to the same) you're ahead of the game, and with $60m in subsidies already ... do the math.
Well, where else are you going to put it except on one of the coasts? Do you really want that thing falling on downtown Toronto?
On second thought ... is it too late to get them to build it in Ottawa,or better yet, Quebec City?
I'm not a Harper fan, and I wasn't a Bullwinke (Mulroney) fan, but it was the Conservatives who brought in the GST, which allowed the Liberals to accumulate the huge surpluses that went to pay down the federal deficit.
I would have liked to see the latest GST cut be handled differently - only a half-percent instead of 1%, and the rest earmarked for the deficit. After all, the quicker its paid off, the better, and the more of a cushion we have for the next economic downturn.
The problem with what you're saying is that most people won't know to delete only iexplorer.exe. Same with search - how are they going to delete just the one offending file, and keep the other libraries intact? So they're stuck with "The Microsoft Way".
Remember writing this?
"t is absolutely true that "Internet Explorer" (all the code that actually implements the web browser functionality) is integrated into the OS (OS in the sense that the majority of people understand it) and there are very sound and smart reasons for it to be the way it is."
There's a difference between having the libraries present, and REQUIRING that IE also be present.
There was no reason to make it so that removing IE removes the "integrated into the OS" functionality.
Same with search.
You can't have it both ways. You can't say both that IE is necessary, and that its "just a bunch of libraries." Ditto for search, and that's the problem here. Microsoft is again forcing people to "do it their way", to control what they do with their computers, rather than giving them the best product possible. Intentionally breaking stuff all the time only works when you're a monopoly.
Its like the situation back in the bad old days when companies would spend more trying to come up with copy-protection schemes for floppies than they would on the actual product - and it showed (and never stopped anyone with a transcoder controller board from copying the floppy, copy protection intact).
> "Internet Exploder" doesn't come with Windows. "Internet Explorer" does. Not the difference in spelling.
Your post is self-contradictory. The chunks of code that are used by IE and other programs should have been separated from IE into their own mudules, and only loaded as needed. That's what dynamically-loaded libraries are for. Under a proper software model, IE would not be required - just the shared libraries.
Your post makes me wonder if you've ever done ANY software development, or at least anything beyond, say, VB..