If they're going to wait for IE7 to come out of beta "just in case", by the same reasoning they should also wait for Vista to come out of beta.
Seeing as Longhorn/Vista was originally supposed to be out in 2003, oops, 2004, sorry 2005, for sure 2006, now definitely Januar 2007, the question is "Which will be out first - Vista or Bush?"
Why would I "pirate" something, you couldn't PAY me to see!
That's the whole problem - people feel that a lot of the stuff out there isn't worth the asking price. The "asking price", for a couple, is a LOT more than the ticket price... and it doesn't help that the theatres don't make any money on the screening itself, so they have to gouge on the food concessions.
Lower the price to $5 a head, give half to the theatre so they can charge reasonable prices for eats, and make it up in volume. So Jim Carey won't get $20 million for his next movie unless its really good. The solution to THAT problem is obvious - make better movies.
I don't think that Debian can really compete with Gentoo. Sure it might be okay, but when it comes to dependencies, you probably are still going to have to get them all on your own. Or is there something like portage in the Debian world as well?"
When God hates all the same people you do, its a sign you've created Him in your own image.
That's a pretty good quote; is it yours?
I wish it was my own - I stole it from somewhere - can't remember where, unfortunately, because I'd like to give credit. Unfortunately, I rotate my sig on a regular basis, and I paraphrased it from memory... sorry.
Of course, that doesn't mean you can't use it too:-)
I never said the STATIC pages were served from another machine - they all go to port 80 at his hosting company. No big deal. The dynamic content is redirected to another port (8080). Use an.htaccess file to redirect that to your home box and get around your home ISP's blocking port 80.
Completely transparent to the end user, except for the 8080.
What makes you think port 8080 automatically points to a home machine? That's a fairly common port for various server software to bind.
Not really - its one of the 2 alternate http ports (the other being 8000) when you want to get around your ISP's port blocking. The regular ports are 80 (http) and 443 (https).
cat/etc/services | grep 8080
http-alt 8080/tcp # HTTP Alternate (see port 80)
http-alt 8080/udp # HTTP Alternate (see port 80)
The rest of the site is static content; kinderwhatevertheycallthemselves.com obviously is just pissed off that google dropped their page ranke so the don't get as much money from the Google Ads they run.
As for the preview, you're absolutely right - I sucked this morning.
It's not like he makes his email address visible so you can send them an email to voice your opinions - (gnsnorwalk@msn.com according to the whois for all you spam email harvesting robots out there:-)..., and since they're arguing in the complaint that google's reducing their pagerank is "freedom of speech", their complaining would undermine the basis of their suit (#include __POT_MEET_KETTLE_ARGS__).
"We have a right to know how stories get to the front page on slashdot. Why aren't we getting the benefit of dupe stories like everyone else?
In retaliation, slashdot "mis-links" a "story" mis-titled "SCO Files for Bankruptcy" to Kinderstart and Kinderstarts' resultant server bandwidth overcharges put them out of business.
Any golf game - you might win, but then you have to take you handicap into account. Also, she swings from the women's tee.
Risk - give her 2 armies and you only get 1
Monopoly - again,. she gets 2 players, you get 1
Driving games - she gets the better car. If you upgrade youre car, she has the option after every race to swap cars (you swap identities and controllers)
Most chess games allow you to start with a handicap (removing a piece, say, a knight or bishop).
Sorry, but I'e been preoccupied with a nut case...
He's admitted to sending death threats to the White House, smuggling people across the border, all sorts of craziness, and it all started a day or so before this whole thread...
I'd say that hate speech is a form of intimidation, and as such, is both potentially unsafe for the group targeted, and also an infringement on their rights to live free of intimidation. For example, you wouldn't want anyone going around making death threats to you or someone close to you, and then claiming "freedom of speech". Even if they never carry out the threat, it still takes a toll.
Hate speech is the same, except that it has the potential to involve others, so the target of the hate never knows when they're safe, because anyone might be incited by the hate speech. For example, say someone started posting notices all over town with your face on it and "pedophile" in big letters. Now you're afraid to walk the streets, even if the charge is untrue, because of the potential for some kook to "take matters into their own hands."
Everyone has a right to feel safe. Hate speech strips that away, without exposing the perpetrator to the same risks. To counterbalance this, we passed laws making such activities illegal. There's a presumption, when you're inciting people to hate a particular group, that you don't exactly mean them well.
Anyway, maybe we'll be able to discuss this further soon - right now, as I said, between all the other stuff, trying to get some work done, and the net-kook, I've kind of got my hands full.
About the kkk speeches - rhetoric is used to incite people to do things they wouldn't normally do. A mob is easier to get going than individuals, if you have a few well-placed instigators to "help on the cause". Same with political rallies, church revivals, etc. Different purposes, of course, but the same methods, because they work.
Like I said, never a dull moment (probably why so many people read my journal on occasion).
Cybercrime A 12-year-old boy was charged Tuesday with making death threats against teachers and students at his school in an online chat room for fans of horror films, police said.
The boy attends a private school in north Lancaster County, but was not identified by police. Police also did not release the name of the school.
Police in West Earl Township went to the boy's home in Leola, near Lancaster, just after 7 a.m. Tuesday with a search warrant. A steak knife was found in the boy's school backpack, police said.
The boy was being evaluated at a hospital Tuesday night and was to be turned over to juvenile authorities, police said.
A woman in Portland, Ore., saw the online threats and called police Monday night.
"If I went to bed and woke up to find out he had killed people, I'd never forgive myself," said Stacey Weighall.
According to Weighall, the boy wrote under the message headline "I'm going insane," that "I'm going to kill my teacher and a lot of other people in my school."
A number of people communicating on the Web site _ www.horror.com _ told the boy he should get help and asked him to stop posting threatening messages, Weighall said.
The boy allegedly answered, "That will teach them not to take me as a joke. I'll show them all I'm strong. Make them fear me."
Weighall called police in Pittsburgh, who contacted the FBI Cyber Crime Unit there.
Authorities contacted the owner of the Web site just after midnight and he furnished the identity of the boy who was posting the messages.
"He was very cooperative in providing essential information which enabled us to locate and identify this person," said Lt. Kevin Kraus of the Pittsburgh major crimes division. "I also give high praise to this woman in Oregon who took immediate action."
The boy was "very cooperative" when police arrived, said Chief Brian Brandt of the West Earl Township Police Department.
He said the investigation was ongoing and would not comment further.
The boy was charged with making terroristic threats and criminal attempt to possess instruments of crime.
I hear confession is good for the soul. Why not go to your local church and ask for some help. You need it.
I agree he's a schmuck (and thats being polite). However, there's more to the story than that. He was one of the original people when the company started - literally. He own several million dollars interest in the company as a shareholder.
When you were in on the ground floor, own a chunk of equity, and are one of those who helped build it up from scratch, you tend to have more liberty than an ordinary employee.
My guess is that one or more of the other partners were short-changing his work, and this was his way of getting back at them, but we won't know until it gets through the curt process. This isn't your average case.
... all of which conveniently ignores my example of proprietary software licensed to me personally.
BTW - the company does NOT own work I produce that has nothing to do with what I was hired for. Just because you live in a sucky jurisdiction doesn't mean the other 95% of the world has to go along with that fantasy.
Actually, as of last month my previous employer doesn't even own what I produced while working for them - that's one of the end results of our mediated workplace dispute. We agreed - I'm not an employee, they're not an employer, so its all MINE, even though it was producted on their equipment, with their money. They just have a license from me.
Actual experience trumps handwaving arguments. Your mileage may vary, depending on how many emails you were smart enough to save.
if I installed software that was licensed to me personally - the company would own it
Comapny policy does not override copyright. Company policy is also not binding on 3rd parties - the software licensor, for example.
Example - you install gpl'd software on the company laptop. The company does NOT own it. The original author owns it.
Example - you install gpl'd source code on the company laptop. The company does not own it. The original author owns it.
Example: you install proprietary software licensed to you on the company laptop. The company tries to claim ownership. The licensor declares your license nul and void. Your company owns nothing.
It could even be argued in court that by installing the software on the company laptop you transferred the license to the company
Under your theory, if I let you use my car to pick up your groceries, somehow or other I suddenly "own" your groceries. Gee, can I have a friend pick up your paycheck for you? After all, under your theory, they'll then own it.
While most small companies may not have this kind of thing in writing, it is still true de facto (IANAL) for them.
Nope. The de facto standard is "normal care and use" - not "the company p0wnz all your base". Return it in the condition you got it in, less reasonable wear and tear. Same as anything else lent to anyone. You borrow a drill from your neighbour, you have to return it in the condition you got it in, leas reasonable wear and tear. That is the law when there is no written atreement.
In this case, it was "return or delete" - he deleted. They're both a**holes, but that's another story.
If it has been prevented by law, then it hasn't harmed anyone, same as a potential killing that was prevented by law hasn't harmed anyone.
As for hate speech that took place in other countries that caused harm, that would have been prevented by hate law here, just look at the history of your local KKK.
And for your third question, it again misses the point. The law does not say a person can't express any belief they want in private. It regulates PUBLIC speech. Read the law. Stop mixing apples and fish.
You accused me of changing the topic, after I provided you with a concrete example of speech that caused harm (which is EXACTLY what you requested). That it was a bunch of lies by YOUR president is not "changing the topic" - it was a concrete example of speech, in this case intentinal lies by your president, designed to play on people's fears and paranoia, that caused harm, loss of life, etc.
If you don't like the fact that the example hits too close to home, don't complain to me - do the right thing by supporting the impeachment of your president, while you still can.
I have personally told over 100 people I was going to kill them. In fact, I actually beat the stew out of a few of those people.
... but you're too gutless to post as anything but an AC.
Thanks for playing, but I doubt you're capable of beating anybody...
Besides, Canada is a country where everyone is a member of at least 1 minority group. That's right, everyone. We see things differently because of that.
You have no fucking idea what free speech is you asshole. You understand it as anything that might upset your delicate sensibilities shouldn't be protected. You're a fucking douche bag/blockquote>... and that would be perfectly legal to say in Canada as well. Your point being... oh, you didn't really have one.
Nobodyis being punished for what they think,or even what they say in a private conversation - just when they unjustly attack people because they're "different" and/or want to incite others to bigotry or violence.
Seems that a lot of people who are defending "fee speech" aren't looking at the cost - it isn't free, not when other people have to pay the price because some a**hole is going around promoting people to discriminate against them, or attack them physically.
There isn't a fine line between thought and speech
... the line between thought and speech is pretty easy to delineate...
, and there isn't a fine line between private and publc speech.
... and our laws also set out the difference between private and public speech...
There is no line at all
We were able to draw the lines, and so do other countries. Same as with pornography, gun ownership, lobbyists buying legislators, dead people voting, and other issues the US seems to be having a problem with.
Slashdot Mirror
No, thre wasn't. The story is about HARDWARE designed for the OS, not software.
If they're going to wait for IE7 to come out of beta "just in case", by the same reasoning they should also wait for Vista to come out of beta.
Seeing as Longhorn/Vista was originally supposed to be out in 2003, oops, 2004, sorry 2005, for sure 2006, now definitely Januar 2007, the question is "Which will be out first - Vista or Bush?"
That's the whole problem - people feel that a lot of the stuff out there isn't worth the asking price. The "asking price", for a couple, is a LOT more than the ticket price ... and it doesn't help that the theatres don't make any money on the screening itself, so they have to gouge on the food concessions.
Lower the price to $5 a head, give half to the theatre so they can charge reasonable prices for eats, and make it up in volume. So Jim Carey won't get $20 million for his next movie unless its really good. The solution to THAT problem is obvious - make better movies.
You could have at least included a link or a quote:
http://funroll-loops.org/
I hadn't seen brainyquote before - thanks.
Of course, that doesn't mean you can't use it too :-)
Completely transparent to the end user, except for the 8080.
As for the preview, you're absolutely right - I sucked this morning.
It's not like he makes his email address visible so you can send them an email to voice your opinions - (gnsnorwalk@msn.com according to the whois for all you spam email harvesting robots out there :-) ..., and since they're arguing in the complaint that google's reducing their pagerank is "freedom of speech", their complaining would undermine the basis of their suit (#include __POT_MEET_KETTLE_ARGS__).
Easier to say "You have been banned because you offer nothing of value."
the site sucks. Also, parts are hosted off their home DSL line. Check out the odd port in this url:
ahref=http://www.kinderstart.com:8080/kindertoday/ addPostingFormrel=url2html-26977http://www.kinders tart.com:8080/kindertoday/addPostingForm>
In case you missed it, I'll bold it in the plaintext ...
http://www.kinderstart.com/ :8080/kindertoday/addPostingForm
In other words, he's hosting the static pages on his account with his ISP, and any dynamic content off his home machine.
Why not "help" him - do a
a couple thousand times.Anyone else find it funny they're running Google Ads? THAT's why they're pissed off ... 80% decline in ad revenue from google.
... and Kinderstart sues slashdot a week later ...
In retaliation, slashdot "mis-links" a "story" mis-titled "SCO Files for Bankruptcy" to Kinderstart and Kinderstarts' resultant server bandwidth overcharges put them out of business.
Sorry, but I'e been preoccupied with a nut case ...
He's admitted to sending death threats to the White House, smuggling people across the border, all sorts of craziness, and it all started a day or so before this whole thread ...
http://slashdot.org/~tomhudson/journal/130969
Never a dull moment :-)
I'd say that hate speech is a form of intimidation, and as such, is both potentially unsafe for the group targeted, and also an infringement on their rights to live free of intimidation. For example, you wouldn't want anyone going around making death threats to you or someone close to you, and then claiming "freedom of speech". Even if they never carry out the threat, it still takes a toll.
Hate speech is the same, except that it has the potential to involve others, so the target of the hate never knows when they're safe, because anyone might be incited by the hate speech. For example, say someone started posting notices all over town with your face on it and "pedophile" in big letters. Now you're afraid to walk the streets, even if the charge is untrue, because of the potential for some kook to "take matters into their own hands."
Everyone has a right to feel safe. Hate speech strips that away, without exposing the perpetrator to the same risks. To counterbalance this, we passed laws making such activities illegal. There's a presumption, when you're inciting people to hate a particular group, that you don't exactly mean them well.
Anyway, maybe we'll be able to discuss this further soon - right now, as I said, between all the other stuff, trying to get some work done, and the net-kook, I've kind of got my hands full.
About the kkk speeches - rhetoric is used to incite people to do things they wouldn't normally do. A mob is easier to get going than individuals, if you have a few well-placed instigators to "help on the cause". Same with political rallies, church revivals, etc. Different purposes, of course, but the same methods, because they work.
Like I said, never a dull moment (probably why so many people read my journal on occasion).
Note: West Earl Township is in Pennsylvania, USA.
chat room deat threat leads to student's arrest
I hear confession is good for the soul. Why not go to your local church and ask for some help. You need it.
When you were in on the ground floor, own a chunk of equity, and are one of those who helped build it up from scratch, you tend to have more liberty than an ordinary employee.
My guess is that one or more of the other partners were short-changing his work, and this was his way of getting back at them, but we won't know until it gets through the curt process. This isn't your average case.
BTW - the company does NOT own work I produce that has nothing to do with what I was hired for. Just because you live in a sucky jurisdiction doesn't mean the other 95% of the world has to go along with that fantasy.
Actually, as of last month my previous employer doesn't even own what I produced while working for them - that's one of the end results of our mediated workplace dispute. We agreed - I'm not an employee, they're not an employer, so its all MINE, even though it was producted on their equipment, with their money. They just have a license from me.
Actual experience trumps handwaving arguments. Your mileage may vary, depending on how many emails you were smart enough to save.
Comapny policy does not override copyright. Company policy is also not binding on 3rd parties - the software licensor, for example.
Example - you install gpl'd software on the company laptop. The company does NOT own it. The original author owns it.
Example - you install gpl'd source code on the company laptop. The company does not own it. The original author owns it.
Example: you install proprietary software licensed to you on the company laptop. The company tries to claim ownership. The licensor declares your license nul and void. Your company owns nothing.
Under your theory, if I let you use my car to pick up your groceries, somehow or other I suddenly "own" your groceries. Gee, can I have a friend pick up your paycheck for you? After all, under your theory, they'll then own it.
Nope. The de facto standard is "normal care and use" - not "the company p0wnz all your base". Return it in the condition you got it in, less reasonable wear and tear. Same as anything else lent to anyone. You borrow a drill from your neighbour, you have to return it in the condition you got it in, leas reasonable wear and tear. That is the law when there is no written atreement.
In this case, it was "return or delete" - he deleted. They're both a**holes, but that's another story.
Your first question is a non sequiteur
If it has been prevented by law, then it hasn't harmed anyone, same as a potential killing that was prevented by law hasn't harmed anyone.
As for hate speech that took place in other countries that caused harm, that would have been prevented by hate law here, just look at the history of your local KKK.
And for your third question, it again misses the point. The law does not say a person can't express any belief they want in private. It regulates PUBLIC speech. Read the law. Stop mixing apples and fish.
You accused me of changing the topic, after I provided you with a concrete example of speech that caused harm (which is EXACTLY what you requested). That it was a bunch of lies by YOUR president is not "changing the topic" - it was a concrete example of speech, in this case intentinal lies by your president, designed to play on people's fears and paranoia, that caused harm, loss of life, etc.
If you don't like the fact that the example hits too close to home, don't complain to me - do the right thing by supporting the impeachment of your president, while you still can.
Maybe, but in that case I'm a HAPPY douche-bag.
And Canada is doing a LOT better than the US in terms of freedom:
http://www.rsf.org/article.php3?id_article=15333
Thanks for playing, but I doubt you're capable of beating anybody ...
Besides, Canada is a country where everyone is a member of at least 1 minority group. That's right, everyone. We see things differently because of that.
Seems that a lot of people who are defending "fee speech" aren't looking at the cost - it isn't free, not when other people have to pay the price because some a**hole is going around promoting people to discriminate against them, or attack them physically.
Q: What does what you asked:
A: Nothing. Nice try to confuse the issues, though.