and if you aren't using and have no intention of using an optional feature then you are not harmed directly, only potentially harmed.
Guess you weren't around during the DOS 6 marketing campaign. It wasn't a marginal feature - it was the #1 reason people were buying DOS 6. Hard disk space was measured in megabytes, not gigabytes. An 80 gig hd cost $400 back then. You couldn't even buy a 1-gig hd.
So, when the highly-promoted "look you can double your disk space with our latest and greatest" DOS 6 turns ut not to be able to do what it says, and people are told NOT to use that feature because it corrupts their data, if they take those precautions, they haven't been harmed? They were ripped off! And being charged for the fix was bullshit.
The fact that someone hasn't used a feature up until the filing of the suit was irrelevant. It was THE major selling point of the upgrade. Remember, a lot of people were still stuck with 40 meg hds back then. If you had 80 megs, you were cool. If you had over 100 megs, you were among the elite. That's MEGS, not GIGS.
One of the reasons people who bought it didn't use it was because reports quickly surfaced of data corruption. So,
you buy a product because of a specific, highly-touted feature
then you don't use that feature because of many reports that you'll lose all your data
so the lawyers claim you weren't fucked over by the buggy software, so you can't claim a loss?
You were fucked over, because you bought something that didn't do what it said it could do, and they charged you to fix it.
And now we're going to get a flood of MS fanbois going "look - firefox is vulnerable. Better switch now!" because they don't
know the difference between a web browser and a web site.
Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall
Humpty Dumpty had a great fall
All the kings horses and all the kings men
Said "Fuck, his ass looks just like the goat.cx guy"
You'll see that many of her arguments are highly based on logic. In the mentioned Microsoft case, her argument was against the "class" that was chosen for the lawsuit. The plaintiffs chose everyone who bought DOS 6.0 as for the class, arguing that they had been harmed and shouldn't have to pay $10 for an upgrade. However, not everybody who bought the product was using, or intended to use the compression features, so it was difficult to justify including all of them in the class. Therefore, the class was decertified.
That would be like arguing that not everyone who has potentially defective silicone-gel breast implants should have them removed - you've got to wait until they burst and you get all sorts of auto-immune diseases, and THEN you can sue for the cost of getting them removed, and your damages. Otherwise, you're not a victim - just a "potential" victim. So no class action for you, baby! Speaking of babies...
Rock a bye baby on the tree top
When the wind blows the cradle will rock
When the bough breaks the cradle will fall
WTF sort of parent leaves their kid in a treetop? No wonder kids are fucked up today! This is what you read them before they go to bed? They'll think you'll abandon them! They... *smack*
No, its "If you were dumb enough to vote for George Bush, TWICE, you're too stupid to know you've been ripped off." AND you deserve it! I just pity the rest of the poor slobs who have more than room-temperature IQ and know they're getting fucked over again.
Mary had a little sheep
And with that sheep she went to sleep
The sheep turned out to be a ram
Mary had a little lamb
By Lester Haines
Published Monday 24th January 2005 11:20 GMT
Absolute proof that eBay really is the world's marketplace comes with the revelation that the online auction site has branched out into the African slave trade.
This outrage was discovered by a Google Group member who typed "African Slave" into Google, and was shocked to find this irresistable offer:
African Slaves for Sale ebay.co.uk Low priced African Slaves Big selection!
Oh dear, oh dear. Of course, the link directs wannabe plantation owners to nothing more sinister than a few African slavery-related items including books and engravings. As one poster notes: "It does not look like a joke, rather than overzealous ebay putting too many keywords."
Quite so. Nonetheless, eBay must as a matter of some urgency address this matter and either a) change the wording of their link, or b) actually acquire a big selection of low-priced African slaves, since to offer non-existent merchandise is clearly a serious breach of its own usage policy, not to mention several local and international laws.
So you'll see ads having to do with a combination of glue, panties, and bikes in France or some other such shit.
I suspect they'll do something similar for an office suite, perhaps with the ads targetted to the content of your document.
I really, really, REALLY am not looking forward to ads targetted towards the content of what I write about... anyone advertising shit targetted at MY writing has got to have one fucked-up business plan. Example:
Little Mendle, loathesome tyke,
Put Crazy Glue on sister's bike,
She peddled all through Spain and France,
Welded to her spandex pants.
Burma Shave
I mean, really, what sort of ads are you going to get with that? Proctologists? Do-it-yourself goatse.cx kits?
No, it wasn't a queston of whether you supported Roman slavers doing their nasty. To back up a bit, it was that religion has dirty hands wrt slavery, and the bible spends a lot of time telling people what to do, including killing off whole tribes who are "different" (ethnic cleansing) and enslaving and raping the women (after all, if you kill off the husbands and take their wives as your own w/o their consent, its rape) and enslaving the children. This is wrong.
That Jesus would come out and say |I and the father are one" means that his hands are dirty (but so was his mind. Anyone so preoccupied with other peoples' sex lives... the boy had some serious hangups and would be confined to a mental institution today)
Context - I was ragging about source, I showed source - and the last I looked, the tag is 100% html 4.01 compliant, though w3c.org prefer you use <strong>:-)
Just like the source to the above:
Context - I was ragging about source, I showed source - and the last I looked, the <b> tag is <b>100% html 4.01 compliant</b>, though w3c.org prefer you use <strong>:-)
On a side note, does ANYONE use <strong> when hand-coding?
Look, it's Bad vs. Evil not because Roman slaves had it better than American ones (they did. read a fucking book instead of searching google) but because we KNEW BETTER. Hello, post-enlightenment society?
Actually, I took History of the Roman Empire back in my college days. Unfortunately, its kind of hard to cut-n-paste from dead trees. Most roman slaves didn't have it any better than slaves anywhere else, but that's besides my central point. Owning people is wrong. Trying to excuse your god from condemning it because it was "less wrong back then" is pretty foolish. Saying it was BAD as opposed to EVIL? WTF? But that's okay, christians have selective memory. After all, your bible states times when god commanded people to enslave those they fought against, except for the males over a certain age, who were to be killed immediately. And JC backed it up when he said that he and god were one - so he's just as guilty of mass genocide and slavery as his purported old man.
Side note, but Im guessing you're an ex-catholic. Most people go from religious to non-religious (if they're making that kind of decision), but it's only the catholics that go straight to anti-religion. Or see intelligent design as a christian phenomenon, rather than simply yet another weird perversion to come out of the south.
Also, you guessed wrong about my former beliefs. Former fundamentalist baptist. And no, Intelligent Design isn't something new. It existed as a fundamentalist teaching before the Intarweb.
So what's to keep you from complaining to your local attorney general? You could end up getting ALL the bucks back for what amounts to an email and a few follow-up letters. Also, if they charged it to a CC, contest the charges. This gets them a $20 ding for each contested charge.
If you were a slave, would you want your owner to free you ? Yes ? Then, the very command you quoted - "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you" - means that you should set free any slaves you might have. Where you got the idea that this command doesn't apply to slaves I have no idea. It certainly does.
Fact is, they didn't in most cases. Read your bible. Sure, some would, but thats far from all. They continued to own slaves. It was okay for "god's people" to own slaves.
With all his supposed "teachings", Jesus never came out once and said "You can't own people, smeghead!" For someone who was supposed to be the son of god, he certainly lacked any real insight into the human condition.
But then again, since there is no god, jesus was a nutbar to believe he was "god the son", which explains a lot, both about him, and his followers even unto the present day.
Oh, its definitely in the dangerous deviancy column, all right. Just way outside the FBI's mandate. Its not an interstate crime, terrorism against the country, etc.
This is something that the local cops can (and are better prepared to) handle, just like they did in this case. After all, they know the locals, etc., and are going to have to deal with any followup or connected activities.
This whole fbi porn thing looks like someone's empire-building.
F.B.I. - Federal Body Inspectors - we used to joke about that as kids, but I guess its true now.
Companies change thier TOS/EULA/Policies/Privacy stuff, etc ALL the time without prior notification.
Not where I live, they don't. Any such act is illegal (Consumer Protection Act) and you can ignore the change.
Up here, any change must be given by written notice, prior to the change coming into effect, so that the consumer may cancel. In such cases, there can be no penalty assessed for "early cancellation". The contract may not be changed during the time of its fixed duration, either, so if they say 1 year at $x, they can't then, halfway through, bump up the price, and, if you disagree, charge you a fee to cancel. They can't bump up the price, period! Its a contract, and they have to honour it.
At the end of the cotract, if they wish to change the terms, again they have to notify you in advance, in writing. You are free to accept or cancel without penalty.
What, you didn't notice when hotmail updated their EULA to say that anything you email or receive email about belongs to them, including any personal information, or private company information including patents etc?
... just goes to show, only suckers use hotmail. they get what they deserve. Besides, it wasn't legally enforceable, as it violated existing copyright law.
But there's still MS products that say you can't say anything negative about them without asking them first.
Another unenforceable clause. Here, Ill say it - Frontpage is a piece of shit. It was a piece of shit in '97, it was still a festering pile of crap in 2000 (last version I bought - never bothered using it because it WAS a stinking pile of crudescence). So, I've violated the EULA. Big deal. Let them sue me. I'm up for it. But I'll bet they're not.
I'd rather be a free atheist, able to do what I want than be a slave living under "christian morality."
There is nothing wrong with sex between two consenting unmarried people, just like there's nothing wrong with same-sex marriage. "Christian morality" is an oxymoron. That is the truth that shall set you free, not "knowing Jebus."
But god must really love the Bible Belt - he's sending all those hurricanes there to help all his children get all that nice federal money, and to take extended vacations from work. He's even provided all those corpes (surely, they are heathen corpses, right?) so the crocodiles won't starve. Yes, sir, the ultimate slave-owner thinks of everything.
He's even helping his number one servant, George Bush, be the most popular president in all history.
Too bad God doesn't exist. If Jesus were to appear before me tonight, I would take the opportunity to be the first in line to say "fuck you" and kick him in the balls because of all the stupidity and harm done in his name. After all, if he's so omnipotent, he's been pretty damn negligent.
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So, when the highly-promoted "look you can double your disk space with our latest and greatest" DOS 6 turns ut not to be able to do what it says, and people are told NOT to use that feature because it corrupts their data, if they take those precautions, they haven't been harmed? They were ripped off! And being charged for the fix was bullshit.
The #1 alternative is for various border states to secede from the US and become Canadian provinces, or their own nation-states.
Then Bush and his supporters can have his "Jebusland."
One of the reasons people who bought it didn't use it was because reports quickly surfaced of data corruption. So,
- you buy a product because of a specific, highly-touted feature
- then you don't use that feature because of many reports that you'll lose all your data
- so the lawyers claim you weren't fucked over by the buggy software, so you can't claim a loss?
You were fucked over, because you bought something that didn't do what it said it could do, and they charged you to fix it.Just the sort of judge that allows people to "game the system" in the first place. Think SCO.
So, how long before David Boies and Darl's brother also make the Supremes?
Remember how ebay got nailed for ads asking if you want to buy a slave because the word slave appeared on a page, and google got into the act too: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/01/24/ebay_afric an_slaves/
So you'll see ads having to do with a combination of glue, panties, and bikes in France or some other such shit.... oh, you said "asshole", not "prick". Sorry, Carry on, mate.
And in the same vein ... (so as NOT to be off-topic)
No, it wasn't a queston of whether you supported Roman slavers doing their nasty. To back up a bit, it was that religion has dirty hands wrt slavery, and the bible spends a lot of time telling people what to do, including killing off whole tribes who are "different" (ethnic cleansing) and enslaving and raping the women (after all, if you kill off the husbands and take their wives as your own w/o their consent, its rape) and enslaving the children. This is wrong.
That Jesus would come out and say |I and the father are one" means that his hands are dirty (but so was his mind. Anyone so preoccupied with other peoples' sex lives ... the boy had some serious hangups and would be confined to a mental institution today)
Just like the source to the above:
On a side note, does ANYONE use <strong> when hand-coding?... because it will never compile with your typo rate ...
... and nobody's going to hire a kid whose english makes perl look good.
Also, you guessed wrong about my former beliefs. Former fundamentalist baptist. And no, Intelligent Design isn't something new. It existed as a fundamentalist teaching before the Intarweb.
G-Men and G-Women looking for the G-Spot.
What a mis-allocation of resources.
So what's to keep you from complaining to your local attorney general? You could end up getting ALL the bucks back for what amounts to an email and a few follow-up letters. Also, if they charged it to a CC, contest the charges. This gets them a $20 ding for each contested charge.
*J*immy Carter
Lyndon *B*aines *J*ohnson
*J*ohn F Kennedy
Harry S Truman
Franklin Delano Roosevelt
Only 2-1/2 BJs - Damn - the "much suckage of male members" theory was looking good for a minute ...
With all his supposed "teachings", Jesus never came out once and said "You can't own people, smeghead!" For someone who was supposed to be the son of god, he certainly lacked any real insight into the human condition.
But then again, since there is no god, jesus was a nutbar to believe he was "god the son", which explains a lot, both about him, and his followers even unto the present day.
This is something that the local cops can (and are better prepared to) handle, just like they did in this case. After all, they know the locals, etc., and are going to have to deal with any followup or connected activities.
This whole fbi porn thing looks like someone's empire-building.
F.B.I. - Federal Body Inspectors - we used to joke about that as kids, but I guess its true now.
... and when that bionic noese gets bionic fingers so it can flick its bionic boogers - LOOK OUT!
Up here, any change must be given by written notice, prior to the change coming into effect, so that the consumer may cancel. In such cases, there can be no penalty assessed for "early cancellation". The contract may not be changed during the time of its fixed duration, either, so if they say 1 year at $x, they can't then, halfway through, bump up the price, and, if you disagree, charge you a fee to cancel. They can't bump up the price, period! Its a contract, and they have to honour it.
At the end of the cotract, if they wish to change the terms, again they have to notify you in advance, in writing. You are free to accept or cancel without penalty.
... just goes to show, only suckers use hotmail. they get what they deserve. Besides, it wasn't legally enforceable, as it violated existing copyright law.Another unenforceable clause. Here, Ill say it - Frontpage is a piece of shit. It was a piece of shit in '97, it was still a festering pile of crap in 2000 (last version I bought - never bothered using it because it WAS a stinking pile of crudescence). So, I've violated the EULA. Big deal. Let them sue me. I'm up for it. But I'll bet they're not.There is nothing wrong with sex between two consenting unmarried people, just like there's nothing wrong with same-sex marriage. "Christian morality" is an oxymoron. That is the truth that shall set you free, not "knowing Jebus."
But god must really love the Bible Belt - he's sending all those hurricanes there to help all his children get all that nice federal money, and to take extended vacations from work. He's even provided all those corpes (surely, they are heathen corpses, right?) so the crocodiles won't starve. Yes, sir, the ultimate slave-owner thinks of everything.
He's even helping his number one servant, George Bush, be the most popular president in all history.
Too bad God doesn't exist. If Jesus were to appear before me tonight, I would take the opportunity to be the first in line to say "fuck you" and kick him in the balls because of all the stupidity and harm done in his name. After all, if he's so omnipotent, he's been pretty damn negligent.