The investor visa and employee visa usually don't get awarded to your own startup.
You won't get it if you say "I want to start a startup and work for it". But a good immigration lawyer can work out how to make it happen.
The case where you are SOL is if you must invest your own money to make a go at it (because you can't find any other funding) but you have less than $1m. In that case, the Obama visa might have helped you. But that's a pretty rare case. And I think the Obama visa program was more a fig leaf and a distraction.
As I was saying, I think the US needs to overhaul its immigration system from the ground up to be reoriented primarily towards skilled immigration, regardless of national origin or ethnicity.
Wow that's some serious cognitive dissonance you got going there. However, if there is "big corporate spending" causing "corrupt political candidates" then why not fix the campaign funding issues and allow non-corrupt politicians to fix our government?
Because "fixing" campaign finance would actually make the system more corrupt: it makes politicians even less dependent on the public, it makes it even cheaper for corporations to buy politicians (since all they need to pay for now is personal favors), and it gives incumbents an even bigger advantage.
Why choose instead to dismantle a healthcare system that millions of people rely on?
Dismantling the current corrupt healthcare system is exactly what is needed to make it less corrupt.
Dismantling a corrupt, socialist institution like the US healthcare system, is always painful in the short term, but it's the right thing to do if you want people to have healthcare in the long run.
In modern politics, it's private fundraising events where they promise to lower taxes to the rich that get them funding. In addition, it's their actions that get them the funding from the backers of those special interests you mentioned before.
Of course. That's where the money comes from. You're still not thinking about where the money actually goes.
Answer this question: why do politicians want all this money? What do they do with it? How does it help them to get power?
The problem is there is a minimally-representative government in power that doesn't work for the people but rather anyone who will fund their campaigns. Our wreck of a healthcare system is a symptom of the real problem, legalized political corruption.
Have you thought about what that campaign funding is used for? That's right: political advertising trying to convince people to vote for these politicians, because they still need votes to actually get into power.
And what kind of message do you think they want to spread in order to increase their revenue? Do you think it is "we need to cut back public spending on medical care and let people choose to buy less coverage"? Of course not, because that would obviously decrease the revenues of drug companies, hospitals, government bureaucracies, and the medical establishment.
Instead, the message they are spreading is "people are dying in the streets, Americans need to be compassionate and open their wallets, and we need more public spending on healthcare and more mandatory insurance coverage, and anybody who objects is a heartless monster".
That's your message: people like you are the essential link between big corporate spending, corrupt political candidates, and political power.
And the irony is that not only are people like you essential to perpetuation and growth of the corruption, the system you create actually badly hurts the people you say to want to help.
Specifically, why do you think it's okay to be a creep?
I don't even know what "it's okay" is supposed to mean. In what way would it not be "okay"? Do you want "creeps" to be sent off to reeducation camps? To be exiled from the US? To be shot? Come on, stop hiding behind weasel words.
Are you a creep and just being defensive?
I don't like men who harass women. I don't like transsexuals. I don't like Christian conservatives. I don't like people who eat with their mouth open. I don't like people who practice poor personal hygiene. There are lots of people I don't like. And I deal with it by simply avoiding people I don't like. You should try it some time.
They took matters into their own hands and handled Caldbeck in a perfectly legal, public way.
Well, and I take matters into my hands and say you're all behaving like immature little kids, and I don't want to work with any of you. And that upsets you because...?
You say "QED" as if she knew what she was getting into
How could she not know? Uber had been repeatedly accused of, and even sued for, sexual harassment before she started working there.
but on the other hand refuse to believe anything any woman says ever that things might be bad
Of course I believe the women: men made unwanted sexual advances towards them and the women reacted to it in typically female ways. And then white knight heterosexual males like you ride in defense of the women. It's all so predictable, hormone driven, and immature. You all need to grow up.
No, the problem is that you don't understand anything about the US healthcare system, which is why you misdiagnose the problem as "Americans refuse to care for our fellow humans."
Half of our medical system is fully government run; the other half is highly regulated and required to provide services to everybody. We have some of the most expensive per capita medical care in the world, yet don't do any better in terms of health than lots of other countries.
It's the same b.s. whether it's education, housing, or healthcare: government price fixing, government regulation, and government subsidies keep raising prices, leading for ignorant people like you to call for even more government price fixing, regulation, and subsidies. And where does all the money go? Into the pockets of special interests, in the case of the medical system, pharmaceutical corporations and doctors. That's whose interests you really promote.
If you look around the world, excellent healthcare can be provided for about $2000/person/year, instead of the ridiculous $10000/person/year we pay (or $12000/person/year in our public system).
People like you are ignorant, and people like you are responsible for the mess that we are in.
The problem is that we refuse to care for our fellow humans..
No, the problem is that morons like you think that the only way of caring for our fellow humans is through huge, ineffective, government-based redistribution. That's why medical care is so astronomically expensive, and it's why so many people are still living in poverty.
Now if you fund someone to buy prosthetic legs so that s/he can go and work as a programmer, people get nervous
Not at all: conservatives, libertarians, and capitalists think that private charity is the best way of helping the poor.
What people get not just nervous but angry about is that the US government spends trillions of dollars on the "war on poverty", combating homelessness, helping unwed mothers, etc. and have little progress to show for it. What makes people even angrier is that the same people who demand redistribution in order to help the poor and unskilled then proceed and try to import even more poor and unskilled from third world nations.
The people who hate private charity and private donations (and want to replace them with government programs) are progressives, socialists, and Democrats.
To go through the route you spelled out means that in order to start a company you need to a) get a job that gives work visa, b) work there long enough they let you apply for green card, c) quit while retaining right to stay in the country/ wait till you get the green card (which could be quite long - I know people who're still waiting after 5 years), and d) start a startup.
If you have money for "your" startup, you can simply get an investor visa. If you don't invest money in "your" startup, you're an employee and can get an employment-based visa.
Making potential entrepreneurs jump through hoops is usually not a great way to get the best talent to come over.
The best way of dealing with that is for the US to adopt a point-based system more like what Canada and Australia have, a radical change from the crappy system that we have right now. Trump might push something like that trough, but Democrats are strictly opposed to it.
you should avoid those places because you suck and then the rest of us will be able to enjoy them without your toxic crap ruining it.
What "rest" would that be? Correct me if I'm wrong, but you seem to be living in a row house in a small British city playing with obsolete video games.
And the thing you are standing up for is a toxic stew of Silicon Valley "bros" and rabid progressives going at each other's throats.
I'm quite proud not to be part of either the culture you actually come from, or the one you pretend to be part of.
Or just cut-n-paste whole threads from previous discussions, because it's always the same, whether it's about pay, sexual harassment, discrimination in its many forms
Well, yes, that's because women are far more privileged than men, so I don't really care about those differences.
and then you wonder why your cubby-farm mates are almost all dudes.
That's no more mysterious than why the MBA is mostly black or elementary school teachers are mostly female: humans aren't born as blank slates.
Or wife. Mine is an entrepreneur and unfortunately she gets propositioned all the time by VCs, other executives, you name it. Even wearing a ring. Guys are gross.
And she gets a valuable piece of information for free there: these are people she doesn't want to do business with. And the best thing she can do is walk right out.
There's nothing wrong with hanging a jacket on him so that women at his next venture are duly warned
Warned of what exactly? "Hey baby, do you want to sleep with me? Might improve your chances of funding." "Geez, you must be desperate. But, no, thanks. Now either let's get back to business or I'm out of here". Oh the horror of it! Those poor, poor women!
Indeed, men who let their little head override their big head shouldn't be working with women.
My point exactly. Yet, feminists insist on gender balance in every company instead of letting people sort themselves out based on who they want to work with.
And just like these Silicon Valley men are obviously driven by their immature sexual urges they have never learned to control, these Silicon Valley women are driven by immature female behaviors they have never learned to control either. Hilarity ensues.
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You won't get it if you say "I want to start a startup and work for it". But a good immigration lawyer can work out how to make it happen.
The case where you are SOL is if you must invest your own money to make a go at it (because you can't find any other funding) but you have less than $1m. In that case, the Obama visa might have helped you. But that's a pretty rare case. And I think the Obama visa program was more a fig leaf and a distraction.
As I was saying, I think the US needs to overhaul its immigration system from the ground up to be reoriented primarily towards skilled immigration, regardless of national origin or ethnicity.
Because "fixing" campaign finance would actually make the system more corrupt: it makes politicians even less dependent on the public, it makes it even cheaper for corporations to buy politicians (since all they need to pay for now is personal favors), and it gives incumbents an even bigger advantage.
Dismantling the current corrupt healthcare system is exactly what is needed to make it less corrupt.
Dismantling a corrupt, socialist institution like the US healthcare system, is always painful in the short term, but it's the right thing to do if you want people to have healthcare in the long run.
Of course. That's where the money comes from. You're still not thinking about where the money actually goes.
Answer this question: why do politicians want all this money? What do they do with it? How does it help them to get power?
Well, oh wise one, why don't you give us your explanation, instead of engaging in idle posturing? Why are US health care costs so high?
Gravis Zero says it's because people are insufficiently compassionate.
I say it's because of government price fixing, government regulation, and government-mandated monopolies.
Your theory is... what?
Have you thought about what that campaign funding is used for? That's right: political advertising trying to convince people to vote for these politicians, because they still need votes to actually get into power.
And what kind of message do you think they want to spread in order to increase their revenue? Do you think it is "we need to cut back public spending on medical care and let people choose to buy less coverage"? Of course not, because that would obviously decrease the revenues of drug companies, hospitals, government bureaucracies, and the medical establishment.
Instead, the message they are spreading is "people are dying in the streets, Americans need to be compassionate and open their wallets, and we need more public spending on healthcare and more mandatory insurance coverage, and anybody who objects is a heartless monster".
That's your message: people like you are the essential link between big corporate spending, corrupt political candidates, and political power.
And the irony is that not only are people like you essential to perpetuation and growth of the corruption, the system you create actually badly hurts the people you say to want to help.
I don't even know what "it's okay" is supposed to mean. In what way would it not be "okay"? Do you want "creeps" to be sent off to reeducation camps? To be exiled from the US? To be shot? Come on, stop hiding behind weasel words.
I don't like men who harass women. I don't like transsexuals. I don't like Christian conservatives. I don't like people who eat with their mouth open. I don't like people who practice poor personal hygiene. There are lots of people I don't like. And I deal with it by simply avoiding people I don't like. You should try it some time.
Record-breaking donations... to political causes, political causes intended to grow government.
That's not charity.
Well, and I take matters into my hands and say you're all behaving like immature little kids, and I don't want to work with any of you. And that upsets you because...?
How could she not know? Uber had been repeatedly accused of, and even sued for, sexual harassment before she started working there.
Of course I believe the women: men made unwanted sexual advances towards them and the women reacted to it in typically female ways. And then white knight heterosexual males like you ride in defense of the women. It's all so predictable, hormone driven, and immature. You all need to grow up.
If you didn't quote selectively, it would perhaps make more sense to you.
"The truth" is that both "the dude" and the women behaved unprofessionally.
No, the problem is that you don't understand anything about the US healthcare system, which is why you misdiagnose the problem as "Americans refuse to care for our fellow humans."
Half of our medical system is fully government run; the other half is highly regulated and required to provide services to everybody. We have some of the most expensive per capita medical care in the world, yet don't do any better in terms of health than lots of other countries.
It's the same b.s. whether it's education, housing, or healthcare: government price fixing, government regulation, and government subsidies keep raising prices, leading for ignorant people like you to call for even more government price fixing, regulation, and subsidies. And where does all the money go? Into the pockets of special interests, in the case of the medical system, pharmaceutical corporations and doctors. That's whose interests you really promote.
If you look around the world, excellent healthcare can be provided for about $2000/person/year, instead of the ridiculous $10000/person/year we pay (or $12000/person/year in our public system).
People like you are ignorant, and people like you are responsible for the mess that we are in.
No, the problem is that morons like you think that the only way of caring for our fellow humans is through huge, ineffective, government-based redistribution. That's why medical care is so astronomically expensive, and it's why so many people are still living in poverty.
I.e., fraudulent projects don't get funded.
Not at all: conservatives, libertarians, and capitalists think that private charity is the best way of helping the poor.
What people get not just nervous but angry about is that the US government spends trillions of dollars on the "war on poverty", combating homelessness, helping unwed mothers, etc. and have little progress to show for it. What makes people even angrier is that the same people who demand redistribution in order to help the poor and unskilled then proceed and try to import even more poor and unskilled from third world nations.
The people who hate private charity and private donations (and want to replace them with government programs) are progressives, socialists, and Democrats.
If you have money for "your" startup, you can simply get an investor visa. If you don't invest money in "your" startup, you're an employee and can get an employment-based visa.
The best way of dealing with that is for the US to adopt a point-based system more like what Canada and Australia have, a radical change from the crappy system that we have right now. Trump might push something like that trough, but Democrats are strictly opposed to it.
It's perfectly obvious what you meant.
What "rest" would that be? Correct me if I'm wrong, but you seem to be living in a row house in a small British city playing with obsolete video games.
And the thing you are standing up for is a toxic stew of Silicon Valley "bros" and rabid progressives going at each other's throats.
I'm quite proud not to be part of either the culture you actually come from, or the one you pretend to be part of.
I saw it on the Far Side
I do! I'm just commenting from the sidelines on how dysfunctional these people are.
We agree on that.
But there are many other ways of being unprofessional, and you display several of them.
Well, yes, that's because women are far more privileged than men, so I don't really care about those differences.
That's no more mysterious than why the MBA is mostly black or elementary school teachers are mostly female: humans aren't born as blank slates.
You're confusing "libertarian" and "libertine". Billionaire leftists misbehaving isn't libertarianism.
And she gets a valuable piece of information for free there: these are people she doesn't want to do business with. And the best thing she can do is walk right out.
Warned of what exactly? "Hey baby, do you want to sleep with me? Might improve your chances of funding." "Geez, you must be desperate. But, no, thanks. Now either let's get back to business or I'm out of here". Oh the horror of it! Those poor, poor women!
My point exactly. Yet, feminists insist on gender balance in every company instead of letting people sort themselves out based on who they want to work with.
And just like these Silicon Valley men are obviously driven by their immature sexual urges they have never learned to control, these Silicon Valley women are driven by immature female behaviors they have never learned to control either. Hilarity ensues.
You need to read his non-apology more carefully because that's not what it said.
And he has taken an indefinite leave of absence, not "stepped down".
He has lots of money, and many people will have absolutely no problem taking his investments.