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Trump Plans To Dismantle Obama-Era 'Startup Visa' (arstechnica.com)
An anonymous reader quotes a report from Ars Technica: A regulation from the Obama administration that would have allowed foreign-born entrepreneurs who raise investor cash to build their startups in the U.S. won't be allowed to go into effect. The Department of Homeland Security will file an official notice to delay the International Entrepreneur Rule for eight months. The intention is to eliminate the rule entirely, according to sources briefed on the matter who spoke to The Wall Street Journal. The decision isn't final, and a DHS spokesperson told the WSJ that the department "cannot speculate" on the outcome of the review. The International Entrepreneur Rule, signed by former President Obama days before he left office in January, doesn't offer a visa but rather a type of "parole" that would allow immigrants to stay in the U.S. temporarily as long as they meet certain requirements. In order to qualify, a foreign entrepreneur has to raise at least $250,000 from well-known U.S. investors. The rule grants a stay in the U.S. of 30 months, which can be extended for an additional 30 months. Founders can't apply for a green card during that time. DHS has estimated about 3,000 entrepreneurs would qualify under the rule.
Now let's also kick out all the H-1B Syrian refugees that are taking our IT jobs away. Can anyone justify letting them remain in our country? I think not.
I was planning on moving to Philadelphia to startup a democracy.
What about the property investor visa? The one where you "invest" in property to the tune of $500k and in exchange get a visa?
You know, the one Jared's company was promoting to Chinese people as a way to get a USA green card?
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/jared-kushner-sister-woos-china-golden-visa-investors-eb-5-green-cards/
I know more details of these schemes now: I thought it was a straight con against stupid Chinese marks, but its cleverer than that. I thought they invested $500k, and were actually buying something worth far less.
So Jared's company was claiming the Chinese would own $150 million of a billion dollar project, =15%. The price is obviously inflated, that will be a 300 million project at best of which Jared's company would have equity of a small fraction of that, e.g. $30 million with the bank holding the rest as asset against its loans. So he's actually selling a token asset.
The Chinese marks are duped of millions, which would be Jared profit.
I've since been told that these Chinese mark's are told they can get a guaranteed return, typically its 50%. So they are buying a discount way to get a visa. Since the mark is brought into the con, they don't complain, because they'd lose the visa.
If I were President I'd scrap this rule too--because it's just too confusing. But then, everything having to do with visiting and obtaining permission to work within the United States, as well as with immigrating to the United States, is just terribly confusing. And I say this as a U.S. citizen.
Personally I would rather we simplify all these regulations regarding immigration--and make it easier for people who qualify to immigrate here without all this weird mumbo-jumbo "parole, no green card, 30 months, can't visit overseas for longer than so many days, do not pass go, must recite ancient Aramaic to come back" nonsense. I swear; just talking to my friends who immigrated here from overseas about what they had to do to become U.S. citizens gives me a massive headache.
This is ridiculous. Even if you have a problem with cheap H-1B visas replacing American workers, this isn't that. This is welcoming in business people with new ideas which will create new jobs and new opportunities. Nor is there any sort of safety issue whatsoever. This is a combination of xenophobia (immigrants are apparently scary), along with Trump's generally zero-sum understanding of how things work (which contributes to a lot of what he does), and frustration that his earlier immigration bans failed in the courts (so doing this feels like he's blocking at least some immigrants, never mind that they are exactly the sort of immigrants he claimed he wanted earlier).
I'm sorry for you. However, you are working under the same auspices that have been used to import a large number of less-diligent people simply because they were cheaper than native talent. Unfortunately, no one can tell that you are more competent than that by simply looking, so the natural response from strangers is going to assume the stereotype.
At least for the most part people's resentment towards you as a foreign "invader" is likely to be non-violent. Other immigrants have not fared as well.
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Trump wants to undo EVERYTHING Obama ever did, to deny the fact a black man was at the head of "his" country.
There's very little race to it. Any time foreign people come in and displace native workers, it breeds resentment, and it doesn't matter whether you're of the Indian "race", the Italian "race" or the Irish "race".
Setting aside your complaints of racism, one reason why some of us would like to eliminate H-1B and replace it with something else is because the rules behind H-1B creates some onerous requirements that resemble indentured servitude.
When you receive an H-1B visa, you must be sponsored by a company, and that creates a situation where if you lose your job, you may also lose your apartment, your friends, and everything you own that you can't carry on the airplane as you are shipped back "home." This puts H-1B holders at a significant disadvantage during salary negotiations, since their status (including the path towards citizenship or green card status) can effectively be held hostage by the sponsoring corporation.
Further, there is a cap on how long someone on an H-1B can stay in the United States. After that period, it's not uncommon for people (usually computer programmers and systems analysts) to return back to the country where they originally came from--but retain their jobs via telecommuting, but at a lower salary (on the theory the cost of living is cheaper). This contributes to off-shoring of jobs.
Personally I would rather see this system replaced with one which greatly simplifies the process of gaining a green card (permanent residency). This would prevent many of the abuses of the H-1B program, as a permanent resident doesn't have to rely on a corporate sponsor to stay. Just as I'd like to see the path to citizenship greatly simplified as well.
assume that, because I'm from India, that my computer science degree is inferior and my skills are deficient.
they are, that's why your working long hours for hardly any money
It's not bigotry, it's that you displaced someone here who could be employed, or who was let go to cut costs.
And don't think this is somehow unique - every single country has work rules to prevent this, yet corporations somehow get around it.
At some point, don't you have to ask yourself why you're working for less wages?
See, many of us who trained H1-b visa holders had to train them (our replacements) and answer questions like this:
"What does the asterisk by a variable mean?"
and it was being asked by someone who we were all told was hired because there "were not enough qualified Americans."
By the way, I haven't worked since and I've been told that I'm unemployable now. And it sucks because I went back to school to get more training and it's proving to have been worthless - but I still got to pay back the student loans somehow. It'll probably come out of my Social Security.
So, yes sir! There is quite a bit of resentment.
Yep.
Oh and the Alfabank one?
Where Alfabank servers looked up 80%+ (2,700 queries) of Trumps email server. Trump representative said it was a bulk email from Trump being spam checked. Which sounded plausible.
So what deal was being bulk mailed to Alfabank? We never did find out, but I'm assuming it was a property deal? Maybe EB5 visa related too?
I can see Trump corp has 2 Cyprus bank accounts, and hired the head of (Russian half owned) Cyprus bank, Wilbur Ross. Cyprus is stuffed full of Russian money, so that is where I'd expect to see a money flow.
I can also see from his latest disclosure (July 16th he released another non-disclosure disclosure) that he re-mortgaged property, and sold his stocks. Which he presented as "refinancing at a lower rate" and "divesting stocks to avoid conflicts". But if he had money, he'd repay his loans, not re-borrow more capital that his previous amount.
So he needed to borrow money, even after selling his stocks. Why?
So what's needed at this point are his tax returns, but we should also see the bulk email campaign that the Alfabank queries referred to.
I know the RNC wants to ignore the issues, and give him a 20% discount on the rules of being President. But they need to realize if they let him do this, he'll insist on an 80% discount. He'll piss all over their Congress made laws. It's what he is, he buys stuff, demands 20% or 30% discount, and if you're stupid enough to take it, he demands a 70% or 80% discount. You agree a discount, it's just about how massive a discount. It's the same with laws, with planning regs, with contractors, suppliers, he does it because you let him.
This is ridiculous
Yes, it is, but so is just about everything else our Bigot in Chief is doing. This isn't about immigration, and I don't think it has a lot to do with his travel ban either. It's about undoing everything president Blackenstein ever did, and wiping out his legacy completely. It's driven by pure, unadulterated racism, plain and simple.
Make sure our first black president has nothing, and I mean nothing, that historians can point to where he improved America.
What the dipshit doesn't understand is that historians will quite rightly point out that President Obama did a great deal to help America, which then Putin's Cockholster undid out of pure spite and racism. As to whether it is key to the decline of America, or merely a footnote, remains to be seen, but the motives are very clear and utterly base.
They stink up my lunchroom!
Best of luck to yo, in your country.
This scheme in fact involves creating US jobs
No, this is just another avenue to smuggle foreigners into the country. The plan that this will be used for creating jobs is really far fetched. Anyone who can show $250K (do they even need to show it?) is allowed to to invite anyone they please for 5 years. The cover that the money will be used to start a business is really hard to prove or verify. Also, who is going to invest into a business of a foreign tourist with a temp visa?
"You can stay, but we get to shove ourselves up your ass to make sure you meet the requirements, also you're barred from seeking normal residency."
This honestly sounds like a scam to get entrepreneurs stuck in a legal negative space so we can strip them of the business they built in the process of kicking them back out. The foreigners would have to be on crack to take this deal.
One might put money into a business started by someone on a short-term visa if they expect to take over the business after the visa expires.
I thought this was witty for about thirty seconds, but now it feels like more of a sad commentary on the American people's lack of autonomy.
Those who advocate genocide deserve every protection afforded by law, and none afforded by common human decency.
I thought Trump was dumb, but never imagined the guy actually doesn't understand that the US' tech sector's supremacy was built on foreigners and not 'muricans.
This is a good plan. The program should be terminated. Terminating this program will help all Americans, including minorities such as African Americans, found their own businesses. I will explain, it does so because we need to reserve the limited amount of investment capital for the benefit of American entreprenuers.
The reason that this is so is that by foreigners consuming the available investor money, it becomes unavailable for utilization by American citizens. Instead, what we need is to encourage more americans to take an interest in technology and to develop their own technologies, and to encourage this we need to ensure that they know that investor money is available to them instead of being consumed by foreign aliens, while they develop their skills utilizing various educational programs we can create. This can involve more elective courses in schools for electonics and programming, more apprenticeship programs to make it easier for people to go straight from high school into IT without expensive college detours, an funding IT clubs for American citizens which are curated by IT enthusiasts to help promote learning, self study and taking an interest in IT as well as allow like minded people to form contacts and user groups formed around programming, electronics and so forth. Trump needs in conjunction to this, to implement other aspects of the plans he discussed which includes using money to help our own American citizens from American parents and families for instance in our inner cities, often minority populations, instead of using the money on foreign aliens. The US only has so much money available and we need to make sure this money goes to our own people rather than foreign aliens (often through anchor babies who really should not be entitled to US citizenship). Most countries in the world only give citizenship to children of their own citizens not anyone who just happens to go into labor on a certain side of the border. If you drive through an inner city in the USA you see devastation. These are people, families, children who have lived in the USA for generations and the USA is passing them over and instead drenches foreign aliens with benefits who come into the USA and drop an anchor baby. This is limited money that is therefore not utilized to help our own multigenerational American families. This means that less resources are available to help our own impoverished, often minority, communities. This is why minorities more than anyone should be for a strong border and no more immigration because it results in less money being available to provide education and training services to help our own communities and our own American families be able to achieve their dreams. Look at an inner city in the USA and you see aimless youth walking around succumbing to the influence of drug lords, often minorities. It really is very sad. And we ignore them and instead we drench foreign aliens who come in and exploit our welfare and benefits system by dropping an anchor baby.
The whole point of cancelling foreign investor Visas and implementing programs to cultivate American entrepreneurship, to encourage Americans by making sure investment money is available for Americans and easier to get for Americans, foreign investor competition would make it harder to get for Americans and would discourage Americans. It is to encourage home grown technology and industries and ensure that investor resources and educational resources are being utilizes to help American citizens found their own businesses so that we have a healthy American owned entrepreneurial economy rather than one which is owned by foreign aliens. By promoting the development and actualization of talent and entrepreneurship among the American population, we reduce poverty and dependence on welfare and raise the standard of living for our own people. Americans who have grown up in America from American parents will also regain a sense of patriotism and once again feel their country provides them with opportunities and protects and fosters the intere
I have become friends with some people who are here on H1B visas from India.
I have known some phenomenal IT professionals who are Indians on H1B visas and I have known some nearly incompetent IT professionals. It's a mixed lot, just like with Americans.
The problem that I and many other Americans have with H1B visas is how they're used to depress wages in our field.
If companies couldn't fill the ranks with H1B visa employees, we would be making at least 30% more money.
Your presence here costs us money. It's easier to deal with when we encounter people who are good at what they do and it's maddening when we encounter people who don't.
Don't blame people for the sins of their ancestors. I am my own person. I am not my father. I am not my mother. I am not my grandparent.
Some people encrypt by using rot-13 twice. I prefer the more secure method of using rot-1 a total of twenty six times.
We already have this, the role is called "a manager", and it is an employee position.
Don't blame people for the sins of their ancestors. I am my own person. I am not my father. I am not my mother. I am not my grandparent.
I presume this statement is in reference to DACA kids, right?
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Anyone living in America bitching about people coming to this country "illegally" is a huge hypocrite. Just ask the next Cherokee you run across.
Pretty sure there is no one in the country that was born prior to 1776. US law states that if you are born on US soil, you are a US citizen regardless of your parents status.
So while our ancestors did some shit things to the native population, no US citizen can be considered to be here illegally at this point in time and is therefore not a hypocrite when they say they want people to immigrate here by legal means.
in case you forgot he lost the vote.
And there we have it folks, proof of a clueless moron that just toes the party line.
First of all, the POTUS is not elected by the popular vote and never has been. You can argue all day long if the electoral college is right or not, but it is the long standing law on how the election happens. Hillary knew this, but chose to go for the pointless popular vote.
Secondly, the only cases of electors going against the will of the people they were representing were ones that tried (I believe all were overturned?) to vote against Trump even though that's how their state voted.
Finally, for all the crying about how Hillary won the popular vote but lost the election, where is the complaining about how the DNC did the exact same thing (though through back door dealings and flouting their own rules rather than following long standing law) to nominate Hillary to begin with? Until it was clear that the fix was in, Bernie won primary after primary, yet some how the delegates kept going to Hillary??? Talk about being a hypocrite!
Just ask the next Cherokee you run across
How about I ask one of the Clovis people from current day France that were here 4 thousand years before the Cherokee came over from modern Russia? Whats that? You didn't realize the Cherokee weren't the first here and Europeans beat them by thousands of years. Hmm.
Or did you forget his (nonsensical) comments about "rapists and murderers" coming from Mexico?
Here's one from a couple of days ago.
That particular article doesn't even mention that the guy was an illegal alien. Earlier news did. Guess that wasn't politically correct.
Don't blame people for the sins of their ancestors. I am my own person. I am not my father. I am not my mother. I am not my grandparent.
I'm not. I'm saying that if the reason you are here is because of illegal immigration (and most of us are to one degree or another) then it is a dick move by YOU to hold it against someone else. America is a nation of immigrants. To pretend otherwise is ridiculous.
This is a load of horseshit. I am an African American. I oppose all immigration because it is bad for black folks. A complete stop to all immigration is not racist and xenophobic because it protects and helps all Americans equally. I voted for Trump because the package he offered was a better deal for all Americans, especially Black folks. When you allow yourself to be driven by old grudges, like you do, you are not seeing the present situation. Mass immigration is destroying black americans. The fact is the policies of the DNC are destroying the black community because it is flooding the labor market with cheap foreign labor that are cutting us off from below and H1B labor that are cutting us off from above. Drugs are flooding across the southern border which destroy often inner city black communities. Foreign aliens and their anchor babies are consuming vast amounts of money that are therefore not available for education and rehabilitation for our own black communities. The youth are trapped in failing schools that do not encourage and foster interest and innovation in technology and the jobs of tomorrow. Giving investment money to foreign aliens means less available to American citizens to start their own businesses. We need to fix the education systems in this country plus we need to strengthen and reinforce the family and communities from the corrosive and corrupting influence of Hollywood. I would dare say that cord cutting coupled with smart phones could be a positive influence as we are getting our youth away from the corrupting images on TV and instead smart phones allow them much more access to research material and other things such as Wikipedia that you cannot get on TV. The difference is TV was more of a force fed limited channel while the smart phone allows one reach and access information rather than to have Hollywood control the channel. Trumps plan for more apprenticeships would do immense good for our black community because this is what many black youth need, a clear viable and legitimate path to where they can respectably make a decent living.
The fact is big corporations want to bring in foreign cheap labor and bought the DNC to be able to bring in unlimited mexican and so on immigration. Their plan is to basically throw the African American under the bus and bring in cheap foreign alien instead. More foreign labor means less jobs for black folks. It means less public money for help with education and training for black folks. They then try to pretend they "care" by throwing more freebie welfare gimmicks and actually insult black people through their implied suggestion that black people can only manage to live off welfare and are not as capable as foreign aliens to fill the jobs in our economy so we need to put us on welfare and give our jobs to foreign aliens. Why do we keep voting for the DNC? The DNC controlled hollywood then tries to corrupt the youth and the culture by promoting broken families and high rates of out of wedlock birth and so on. The worst enemy of black people is the DNC and its Hollywood arm.
That's a ridiculously pointless program. No sensible, skilled entrepreneur will want to come to the US on a temporary visa and start building a company without the security of permanent residence. I'm glad this program is being killed.
Right. I've felt if the program actually was designed to meet its ostensible goals, it'd be a good thing. In fact, the program is designed to depress tech wages and transfer technological expertise overseas.
A program which was focused in bringing in talent would focus on top talent rather than people with commodity skills, and it would give them an almost automatic path to permanent residency. That would actually increase wages for domestic engineers. A top engineer creates jobs for his colleagues.
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First you are like...
> The Department of Homeland Security will file an official notice to delay the International Entrepreneur Rule for eight months. The intention is to eliminate the rule entirely, according to sources briefed on the matter who spoke to The Wall Street Journal. The decision isn't final, and a DHS spokesperson told the WSJ that the department "cannot speculate" on the outcome of the review.
> Trump Plans To Dismantle Obama-Era 'Startup Visa'
And then you are like...
> In one of the biggest wins for the right to repair movement yet, the U.S. Copyright Office suggested Thursday that the U.S. government should take actions to make it legal to repair anything you own, forever -- even if it requires hacking into the product's software.
The US Government Wants To Permanently Legalize the Right To Repair
Ok, so you don't like white reality show billionaires to become presidents of USA istead of corrupt vagina carrying apparatchiks, but god damn, be more subtle!
You are delusional. Unless you were abandoned at birth, you are a product of you parents their, virtues and their sins. And even if you raised yourself from infancy, you did so in a system established by your ancestors.
If you live in a corrupt system, you are corrupt. The only way to reduce the taint is to face the truth and work for change.
I suspect this will be an unpopular opinion, but I can't see any particularly good reason for any kind of restrictions on the flow of labor. The tech centers are going to be talent magnets no matter what, but I personally wouldn't mind setting up shop someplace tropical and isolated. It's not like there's some finite amount of labor to be done in the world. America as a nation of immigrants has done pretty well for itself so far, and it's not like lazy stupid people are the ones who decide to go live in other countries.
Humans are going to have to evolve past tribalism at some point.
Those who advocate genocide deserve every protection afforded by law, and none afforded by common human decency.
The preceding was paid for by the RNC. The RINOC and the number -900,000,000
responsible for our problems. But they do crowd us out of the job market. Not the ones here picking fruit, but you'd have to be a fool to work in tech and not see that 80% of the jobs are folks here on work visas or folks who transitioned from a work visa to citizenship. Yes, that helps the economy, but not _my_ economy. I don't get a piece of that because I'm a worker. I don't benefit from the wage suppression that results. And I don't get cheaper prices from wage suppression. Supply and Demand doesn't work that way. Especially when my budget is mostly comprised of necessities like food, shelter, transportation and child rearing.
You're right to say we could solve our problems _and_ have immigration that benefited the country, but we won't. It's not politically feasible to solve them. We need to tax the wealthy to fund education, fund social programs and safety nets and subsidize worker programs. All things that would drive up wages and costs for the well to do. So I'll take the one thing that _might_ be politically feasible: stopping immigration. Yeah, it's probably bad for the overall economy, but it's good for _my_ economy. And after 30 years of declining wages and rising college costs I'll take what little I (might) get.
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So you're saying we should just let everybody that wants to come here in right? Until the whole world lives here right? We already have too many people. We need to drastically limit that for a while.
If the Democrats had publicly opposed regulation, taxes and state-run company restructurings, Trump would be nationalizing banks and proposing soviet-style five-year plans right now just to "win" against Obama.
Trump isn't owned by corporations; rather it is their allegiance he craves for two reasons: (1) he is needy and has never been accepted by other corporations and so he figures being prez will win him their respect, (2) he has a brain-dead idea of unemployment and figures the big corporations do all the hiring, so he figures giving them and their owners more money will make them hire more and thus he can claim that.
With Trump, there are two rules: (1) everything he does he does for himself, (2) he destroys everything he touches.
Whatever it was and who was here before does not matter. This is now our place, my place, my home. You can give away your bed and TV to random strangers and feed them. But do not take away from me and mine. There is no right for others to take my shit, no matter if I worked for it or not. It is mine and I want to keep it.
So, am I the only one that thinks there really is a shadow government of moneyed elites who basically choose these laws that pretend to do one thing but so clearly do something else?... Anyone else?
why do you assume that everyone wants to leave their own country and come to yours? thats the excuse all xenophobes use for emotional effect, the same type of people in the UK say exactly the same thing. The arrogant stance of "we are better than everyone else" is astounding.
"The hands that help are better far than lips that pray." - Robert Ingersoll (1833-1899)
The International Entrepreneur Rule, signed by former President Obama days before he left office in January
President Obama was able to completely architect, build, and implement an entire new category for immigration operations in just a few days? This is probably just President Trump stopping the first part of the process (architecting it), before anything else even started. But it does make great political grist for the mill!
Browsing at +1 - no ACs, I ignore their posts. So refreshing!
when it comes to this President. I and many others have tried to get positive headlines through to the people, but the mods prevent them from being posted with the typical "we can't get to everyone's posts, but thanks anyway" responses. /. is FAKE NEWS For Nerds!!!
Actually in looking up the faithless electors it appears that more abandoned Hillary than Trump.
Time to offend someone
It is not racist to want a job in the field you're qualified for. When you see companies hiring less qualified individuals because they're cheaper, that's acceptable ire.
Did you not read the latest article about McDonalds replacing cashiers with sales-kiosks? Is the cashier who looses their position & sad about it now a robot-racist? No? Didn't think so.
Just because someone may have 'feelings' does not shield them from scorn when they displace or disadvantage another someone. And ESPECIALLY when it's protected & encouraged from the sham that is H1b program. Use it to hire the genius scientist or visionary, not entire departments of drone workers.
Actually in looking up the faithless electors it appears that more abandoned Hillary than Trump.
Thanks for the link. Not as I recall it at the time, but that could easily be a signal/noise ratio issue. They mention a couple that had their faithless votes overturned, but I thought there were a few more (about a dozen spread across the states)?
I'll study up. Thanks again.
You are wrong about the root of the problem. Poor people fighting over the leftovers are not a cause, but an effect of the conservative "trickle down economics" abstract concept.
When you give more money to the rich, you never, ever, get it back. The more you give, the less scraps you get to fight over, along with all other different ethnic, genders, age groups.
Getting people to fight over skin color is one more tactic they found to avoid the wealth gap growing exponentially issue.
At one point the elastic will break, and if the haves don't have robot security yet, it will be a bloody revolution.
I don't think everybody wants to come to the US. However, there are strong forces drawing some of the most talented to come to the US, in effect stealing the best talent from the country that fostered and created them. A talented engineer from Namibia should give back to the people he was raised out of, not to Steve Cook's annual bonus.
We are all captive in the situations that we were raised up out of. There needs to be a limit to the degree that outside forces can draw us out of that to some other place.
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After that $250k, they could also start looking at non-American investors.
And there is such a thing as borrowing money. Of course if the business fails you may have to declare bankruptcy and a lot of investors and lenders get screwed. But hey, even the POTUS declared bankruptcy 4 times.
Isn't Jared selling green cards for a $500,000 "investment"? Doesn't want competition?
This scheme in fact involves creating US jobs
No, this is just another avenue to smuggle foreigners into the country. The plan that this will be used for creating jobs is really far fetched. Anyone who can show $250K (do they even need to show it?) is allowed to to invite anyone they please for 5 years. The cover that the money will be used to start a business is really hard to prove or verify. Also, who is going to invest into a business of a foreign tourist with a temp visa?
Ohhh ooooh smuggling foreigners, ooooh oooooh chupacabra!!!!
I am so native that Canada has to let me in.
It doesn't work that way. Not only did we not have immigration laws, the reality is that was hundreds of years ago. It was tragic, horrible, and vile. But, not one person is alive who is responsible for it.
"So long and thanks for all the fish."
Rule #2 seems unlikely.
"So long and thanks for all the fish."
Had Obama built a 30' wall all along the Mexican border and gotten Mexico to pay for it, . . .
The funny thing is, if Obama wanted to, he probably could have got it done.
Ol' 36? Not!! That inexperienced piece of shit can go fuck himself.
Personally, I like Johnny Depp's line of thinking.
You are delusional. Unless you were abandoned at birth, you are a product of you parents their, virtues and their sins. And even if you raised yourself from infancy, you did so in a system established by your ancestors.
If you live in a corrupt system, you are corrupt. The only way to reduce the taint is to face the truth and work for change.
You are dangerously insane and should be put down like a rabid dog.
Nothing personal.
Sure. It means just deport them. Their parents are the only ones who deserve jail time.
Steve Cook? Ha, ha.
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If you've never gone through the citizenship process, or watched it personally, you can't be qualified to comment on the "path to citizenship" being difficult. It's not. It's actually incredibly easy *once you have permanent residency*, and I would be really really sad to see it loosened further. (I *have* gone through this process with family twice, so I *do* know whereof I speak.)
Beyond having been a legal resident for X years (X can be shorter for spouses of American citizens, but is at least 3 years), the only other requirements to become a citizen are demonstration of basic proficiency in English, American history and civics, and swearing an oath of allegiance to the United States. The civics test only requires a 70% passing rate out of 10 questions (chosen randomly out of a possible 100, which are posted publicly with their answers!), many of which are like "who was the first president", and "name at least two native american tribes".
As one of the primary benefits (and responsibilities) of a citizen is to VOTE, we all should want to ensure that new citizens can read and understand the ballots they are going to be casting.
Now if you want to talk about the path to becoming a permanent resident being difficult, that's a different matter entirely, and there I'd agree that we should try to simplify and streamline this process, as well as a process to allowing temporary work visas for industries that need them, in a way that does not negatively impact US workers. (H-1bs are particularly problematic here -- but a simple fix to that problem would be to require employers utilizing them to pay a large up front tax -- e.g. $100,000 per H-1b issued, per year maintained for a minimum of 3 years or somesuch. This would allow H-1bs to still be used to support cases where foreign expertise is needed and simply cannot be found domestically -- I do know of a few cases of this in my own past -- while preventing employers from using the H-1b as a way to obtain cheap labor. The H-1b must be *more* expensive than domestic labor IMO.
This would also encourage employers to try *hard* to develop local expertise instead of hiring foreign workers, probably further stimulating salaries.
This is how we do it. We don't just blindly enforce the laws. We do the same thing with Jury Nullification.
Our political system is a mess because it was designed from the ground up by wealthy landowners to protect their interests to the detriment of the farmers working the land. It's why we have a Senate/House instead of a parliament. These sorts of distortions are what you get when you have a system built on oligarchy trying to function as a democracy. Unless you can get support to rebuild our institutions you're gonna have to live with these compromises.
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When I saw you original comment I was curious given all the hub bub about getting electors to switch their vote and I didn't know how it panned out so I went to look it up to find out my self. To be fair there were 10 faithless electors in total 7 which were validated and 3 that were invalidated so you about a dozen comment seems perfectly reasonable to me.
Time to offend someone
It's cool, we get it. We'll go over to the EU and start business there, it's more international business friendly these days anyway without travel restrictions and crazy CBP guards.
If you want a chupacabra managing your startup then get it a proper H1B visa with the rest of them. I don't see the need for a special loophole, sorry.
Keep em dumb. Don't care for these hand modelers anyway! No pride in computer crap. Work the coal mines, boys.
"Lose" by 2.86 million MORE votes?
Wrong.
Believe it or not, you don't have some "right" to come here.
I mean, it's quite flattering that so very, very, very many of you want to, but those of us already here get to decide if you do or not.
Prosecutorial discretion has been common law for centuries. It absolutely is the federal government's discretion whether and how to enforce the law. You're getting called partisan because you're blatantly ignoring reality in preferring one side of a political issue. It was an unusual legal event, but it was in no sense wrong.
Those who advocate genocide deserve every protection afforded by law, and none afforded by common human decency.
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Go read the fucking bill you dung-ridden cretin. Hell, read the fucking summary.
Dems have lost all four special elections so far. Heck, at this rate, we;re gonna see Trump get reelected. The mid term elections should tell the tale....
There is no God, and Dirac is his prophet.
IWhen you see companies hiring less qualified individuals because they're cheaper, that's acceptable ire.
No, its not. If the company hires substandard employees, they will produce a substandard product which will raise the value of better products created by better employees. If that doesn't happen, then the substandard company is simply hitting a sweet spot in the market and not over-paying for un-needed competence.
Did you not read the latest article about McDonalds replacing cashiers with sales-kiosks? Is the cashier who looses their position & sad about it now a robot-racist? No? Didn't think so.
"Racist." "Racial-Luddite." Whatever.
Dems have lost all four special elections so far. Heck, at this rate, we;re gonna see Trump get reelected. The mid term elections should tell the tale....
All in GOP controlled districts, where the GOP candidate underperformed. Republicans are losing ground. Squeaking out a single digit win when you've been winning by double digits for decades is nothing to crow about, and the trends are all bad for Republicans.
Here's something for you to dismiss as "fake news": http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/06/22/handel-republicans-suburban-nightmare-215289
Why do you think that everyone would just come to the US? More Mexicans are leaving the country than entering it for the last couple years.
I never said we are better. I was saying and have been saying that we need to take care of our own before we try to help others.
If you have some definition of your "own", go ahead and take care of them your damned self. Don't try to steal my money or otherwise force me to support some loser just because of the geographic location of their birth.
Getting immigration policy right is the single most important thing we can do. As Pat Paulsen pointed out during a run for the presidency: "All the problems we face in the United States today can be traced to an unenlightened immigration policy on the part of the American Indian."
This would also encourage employers to try *hard* to develop local expertise instead of hiring foreign workers, probably further stimulating salaries.
Horseshit. That's not how hiring works. When businesses need to fill a need, they do not want a trainee. They expect developers to spring fully-formed out of the ground like dragon's teeth.
Tribalism and protectionism are stupid and vile. Open the borders.
Internet tough guy!
First, I'm not an immigrant I'm a native (look up the word if it causes you confusion), second, show me the laws that you assert to have been broken in the 17th and 18th century when my ancestors were welcomed here by the current residents, third this is true of the vast majority of current American citizens.
So why are they complaining in Mexico about the USA enhancing border controls and erecting various physical barriers?
Pretty sure there is no one in the country that was born prior to 1776. US law states that if you are born on US soil, you are a US citizen regardless of your parents status.
Not strictly true, for instance the US law covering naturalization due to birthright citizenship is quite vague on the case of a child born inside the USA to parents who are here illegally. The POLICY is to make those kids citizens, but the law is ambiguous (checkout the phrase "subject to the jurisdiction thereof") on the matter.
That's not what your quote says. "Days before" is referring to Obama's tenure in office, not the amount of time that went into the bill.
People like you are why we can't have nice things.
On top of that, Republican'ts now held in lowest regard since Watergate!
Why no one wants to be a Republican running in a free election without gerrymandering!