2) Competition for desktops existed before KDE vs GNOME. There is of course, KDE vs MacOS and KDE vs Win9x and...
3) Parallel systems are good when they are creating new code, not when they are duplicating work.
4) Forcing applications to deal with both forces developers to dilute their code to use "common" features between the two instead of use features which only exist in one of the two.
I could see people wanting to use CORBA features of GNOME, but not being able to in KDE. The comprimise would be not to use CORBA which would result in an inferior product. The same is true for other parts of GNOME features which do not have counterparts in KDE, and vice-versa.
I guess KDE & GNOME is akin to Linux & FreeBSD. A large portion of work & code between Linux and FreeBSD is duplicated and for all intents and purposes, wasted. However, people who work on FreeBSD would not work on Linux and vice-versa and at some point will create code which doesn't duplicate the effort of the other programming team... This is an inefficient way to go about working on a project, but it beats the alternative of not producing any code at all.
Really this is one of the few features which Linux doesn't have yet. Although work is going on (dtfs and ext3fs), they are nowhere are complete as commercial Unices.
I'm not sure SGI would want to give Linux a feature which would plug up one of the most complained about features on Linux, fsck times.
Maybe I just went to the wrong high schools, but I had no problems. I wasn't exactly mr. popular, but I was never ridiculed for doing well.
On a typical day I would come to school, late of course because I was online all night, do all my homework during first period and spend the rest of the day either keeping to myself or socializing with a few friends I had.
I never felt any pressure from jocks or any other social class. Then again, I didn't exactly pay much attention to others.
I went to two schools, an upper/middle class school in northern california and a full range school in southern california. Both where basically identical, though the one in LA did have a bit more violence.
I guess I don't get it. I've been playing first person shooters since wolf3d, but never had any violent tendancies. I never wanted to strap on an uzi and paint my school with blood. Personally I detest senseless killing.
And you are most definately wrong about jocks having a free ride in the world. Once you get past high school you have to enter the real world, where work performance is more important than social standing.
That's not to say social standing isn't important, without good networking skills you are sunk in a large portion of the business world.
What I'm trying to say is that the kids in Littleton were, as far as I can tell, mentally unstable. If high school didn't push them over the edge, something later in life would have.
WYSIWYG HTML editors and tools improve ease of design of a web site many times over. Things such as Macromedia Dreamweaver and Cold Fusion aren't exactly newbie tools.
Creating really complex web pages gets quite difficult when working exclusively in text. Sure it's possible to do, but if you have a nice WYSIWYG editor which generates standard compliant HTML, why not take advantage of it?
I'm not saying people shouldn't work in text. On the contrary, slight modifications and fixes are sometimes easier to do when working in a text editor... however when you start moving layers from one side of the page to another and working with javascript hooks.... it makes more sense to do it in a WYSIWYG editor.
Not sure.. I've always though of "a sun" as any star with planetary bodies in orbit of it. This comes from the many science fiction novels and television series which depict planets with many "suns".
The same is true for "moons". There is "the moon" and then there is "a moon". Saturn has several moons, but "the moon" circles earth.
This thing may have good gaming hardware now, but it doesn't have a firm upgradability path. With a PC, you can replace a 3D card, the CPU, etc as the machine gets older... you can't exactly rip the 3D chip out of a playstation and replace it.
Consoles were always supposed to replace PC's as gaming platforms... the problem is that games that come out on the PC always seem more... advanced than what comes out on a console.
Hell, it took them over a year to port Quake to a console and it doesn't even have networking support.
The 3D power of a TNT2 is enough to make most developers cry in extacy. PC hardware isn't exactly slow and to tell you the truth, the specs of this thing don't really impress me. It's poly count is fairly high, but remember it's running in a low resolution compared to a PC. You crank a PC running a voodoo 3 to 640x480 or even 320x200 and see what happens.
And when you add a modem, a keyboard, a mouse, a harddrive, etc to a console.. it ceases to be a console and becomes a PC.
I think you are missing the point. Almost every single rule was created to benefit the movie goer. Lucas expects large lines, overcrowding, etc... so he wants to make sure that everyone who sees his movie is given the best experience.
Ahhh.... you know... I've always thought that an OS should teach it's user how to use it. This may seem like a pretty simple idea and in some ways it's been done.
Mac's have come with their little tutorial deal since th early years, but I was thinking more on the lines of the interface itself teaching the user and learning their habits.
What people are missing is that the bulk of Linux was created because individuals needed specific features. Now some individuals need a working user interface because they want an easy to understand distribution... so what's the big deal?
It's not like they are forcing you to use this distribution. They bring more users to the Linux scene, which means more jobs for Linux users/developers and tech support people.
Microsoft really needs to change their official slogan to something like:
"Microsoft, where can force you to go today?"
These seems like the path MS is headed in. All these big name companies, Sony, Nintendo, Microsoft always use these legal scare tactics to get what they want because they know they can afford to fight... whereas you can not.
I'm a gamer. I've played computer games since I was five with my TI 99/4a. I went through a few, morally questionable games like the Leasure Suit Larry series, the Id software titles, etc. Now, I've never felt any need to run around in a cheezy leisure suit trying to get laid while playing rambo and killing everything in sight.
After I got done playing a game I never felt like going out and emulating the game. Maybe it's because that most games are nowhere near the quality of a good action movie or maybe it's because I'm not psychotic.
Anyone who has the capacity and mental or emotional instability to kill someone cold doesn't need any help from the kill-everything-in-sight genre of games.
A game doesn't turn you into a cold blooded killer and even if it could, good parenting... or hell, any parenting at all is enough to counteract it.
If Texas has over 90% of population as mexicans, can they start own war to join Texas to Mexico?
Of course. Any state in the union has the right to succeed from the union.. of course trying to succeed requires war, a war that Texas couldn't win.
Also it's not just the US which is in this, it's every other country besides china and russia that are in NATO. We just happen to have the most armed forces. So unless you live in Russia or China or one of those little countries, chances are your country is participating.
Shesh, UN != US. The US is just one country out of several that are part of the UN.
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Of course, appliances run OS's as well. Who said Microsoft can't write MS Windows AP.
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Never any source code for these things. Why?
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RC5 had source for a long time, but people kept modifying clients to give false reports.. not to mention use screwy compiler options which would result in broken binaries giving false reports.
SETI@Home does have source available if you register as a developer if I remember correctly.
Worse, the System Registry, which was supposed to kill the confusion over autoexec.bat and config.sys files, has instead made these earlier configuration trials seem trivial.
The Registry was created to provide a place for Windows configuration settings. In a typical Windows installation you have 10-15k registry keys, reparsing an ini file over and over containing 10k keys to check if an application changed a setting would be silly, keeping it in memory is even sillier.
Remember databases are not evil. For all intents and purposes, your filesystem is a database, so saying text config files are more stable is a contradiction.
Autoexec.bat and config.sys still exist on windows 9x systems, they are DOS init scripts.
Just because windows has a bad implementation of a registry database doesn't mean it's a bad idea. AIX, MacOS, MacOS X Server, and a few other majors all have configuration databases which are extremely stable and robust.
Plus, you aren't meant to edit the registry directly. That's what that 500 meg GUI is for.
Modern X-based systems are amazingly user-friendly and often superior in design to commercial variants because they put stuff in there that we as users have demanded and created.
Superior is a strong word. Windows9x and Windows NT are extremely developer friendly. If you can get past the bloat of MFC (which Windows developers seem to have no problem doing), it is an extremely complete GUI API.
Consistancy is also an important part of the GUI experience. Microsoft has tried to maintain control over the consistancy of it's desktop for a very good reason. A user should be able to use any windows machine without having to relearn the interface.
I've never been a big Microsoft advocate. Their software is buggy and bloated, their development staff is directed by marketing, their spindoctors could make the catholic pope look like the antichrist if they wanted to, and their fearless leader has so much money that he simply doesn't care any more.
But, being a developer I understand that Windows does provide a lot that Linux doesn't... right now at least.
Linux GUI isn't ready for prime time and I believe most people know it. There is such fragmentation in the X world it makes the Unix (R) world look unified.
You have a few dozen toolkits, several window managers where approx 80% of the code is duplicated, an immense codebase consisting of code designed to be backwards compatible with features people haven't used in 10 years, and a company which until recently wanted to close X off to the open source community.
Hack ontop of hack ontop of hack to make what was originally a glorified drawing API, a graphical user interface.
Linux is ready for corporate computing, server environments where you don't need a 600 meg GUI to run a 2 meg web server or mail server.
Linux will be ready for the desktop arena soon, just not right now.
The statistic isn't 1 in 6 women is raped. The statistic is 1 in 6 women before college are sexually assulted. The other statistic is 1 in 3 women will be sexually assulted during their lifetime.
Sexual assult does not necessarily mean rape. Sexual assult can be anything perceived to be aggressive done in a sexual manner. Pinching a girl's butt while she walks by can be considered sexual assult.
Do you have any idea how hard it is to prove that someone was raped? It's basically one person's word against another and unless other parties come foward, there is no reason to believe that a woman is right and the man is wrong.
I've heard more than my fair share of stories about women who cry rape when their boyfriends find out they've cheated on them or the man they slept with breaks their heart.
I guess this goes along the lines of the methodology I mentioned of corporations footing the bill for software they wanted and the software then becoming free to everyone else except in this case, the changes becoming free to everyone else.
This model does seem to be logical... if you can get companies to invest in you that is, and not their own programmers.
You know, every time someone answers a question on how to make money with Open Source software, the answer seems to always be the same, technical support.
So, I should make my software blatently difficult to use and slightly buggy so that I get support contracts with companies?
Also, exactly how does an individual programmer (there are still a few of us left) make money with Open Source? It's not like we have the resources to write the program and do the commercial support by outselves. With the old shareware method this was easy, you provided documentation and sold the program...
I always liked the methodology of having a few major corporations who need the software finance it, and giving it away to everyone else. At least this model could be accomplished by an individual or a small group of people.
In a utopian society, Open Source * would be a perfect solution, unfortunately some of us need to live in capitalistic societies which exist today.
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Isn't it:
2.2.7
^ ^ ^
| | -> patch level
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| ---> minor (even == stable, odd = unstable)
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|----> major
I've never heard of anyone calling the last digit a minor, major.minor.patch is how I've always seen it.
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1) Choice is good.
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2) Competition for desktops existed before KDE vs GNOME. There is of course, KDE vs MacOS and KDE vs
Win9x and
3) Parallel systems are good when they are creating new code, not when they are duplicating work.
4) Forcing applications to deal with both forces developers to dilute their code to use "common" features between the two instead of use features which only exist in one of the two.
I could see people wanting to use CORBA features of GNOME, but not being able to in KDE. The comprimise would be not to use CORBA which would result in an inferior product. The same is true for other parts of GNOME features which do not have counterparts in KDE, and vice-versa.
I guess KDE & GNOME is akin to Linux & FreeBSD. A large portion of work & code between Linux and FreeBSD is duplicated and for all intents and purposes, wasted. However, people who work on FreeBSD would not work on Linux and vice-versa and at some point will create code which doesn't duplicate the effort of the other programming team... This is an inefficient way to go about working on a project, but it beats the alternative of not producing any code at all.
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Really this is one of the few features which Linux doesn't have yet. Although work is going on (dtfs and ext3fs), they are nowhere are complete as commercial Unices.
I'm not sure SGI would want to give Linux a feature which would plug up one of the most complained about features on Linux, fsck times.
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Maybe I just went to the wrong high schools, but I had no problems. I wasn't exactly mr. popular, but I was never ridiculed for doing well.
On a typical day I would come to school, late of course because I was online all night, do all my homework during first period and spend the rest of the day either keeping to myself or socializing with a few friends I had.
I never felt any pressure from jocks or any other social class. Then again, I didn't exactly pay much attention to others.
I went to two schools, an upper/middle class school in northern california and a full range school in southern california. Both where basically identical, though the one in LA did have a bit more violence.
I guess I don't get it. I've been playing first person shooters since wolf3d, but never had any violent tendancies. I never wanted to strap on an uzi and paint my school with blood. Personally I detest senseless killing.
And you are most definately wrong about jocks having a free ride in the world. Once you get past high school you have to enter the real world, where work performance is more important than social standing.
That's not to say social standing isn't important, without good networking skills you are sunk in a large portion of the business world.
What I'm trying to say is that the kids in Littleton were, as far as I can tell, mentally unstable. If high school didn't push them over the edge, something later in life would have.
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Check out http://www.cyclic.com/. Basically it's a group project management system. Everyone downloads a copy of the source via 'cvs checkout'..
People can commit new changes to the source tree via 'cvs commit'...
You can get a diff between your source tree and the one at the repository via 'cvs diff'...
You can update the current directory you are in via 'cvs update'.
Basic commands to checkout source are:
export CVSROOT=:pserver:user@host/directory
cvs login
[enter password]
cvs -z3 checkout tree-you-want-to-checkout
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EDT.. GMT - 4 hours.
I believe.
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WYSIWYG HTML editors and tools improve ease of design of a web site many times over. Things such as Macromedia Dreamweaver and Cold Fusion aren't exactly newbie tools.
Creating really complex web pages gets quite difficult when working exclusively in text. Sure it's possible to do, but if you have a nice WYSIWYG editor which generates standard compliant HTML, why not take advantage of it?
I'm not saying people shouldn't work in text. On the contrary, slight modifications and fixes are sometimes easier to do when working in a text editor... however when you start moving layers from one side of the page to another and working with javascript hooks.... it makes more sense to do it in a WYSIWYG editor.
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I'm confused. I thought FreeBSD was based on 386BSD, which is dated June 1992 while Linux was based on Minix which was dated 1987.
386BSD of course was based on bits and peices of Berkeley Net/2, but it wasn't a direct relative of it.
Wouldn't this technically make Linux's kernel older than FreeBSD's? (as far as origins are concerned).
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Not sure.. I've always though of "a sun" as any star with planetary bodies in orbit of it. This comes from the many science fiction novels and television series which depict planets with many "suns".
The same is true for "moons". There is "the moon" and then there is "a moon". Saturn has several moons, but "the moon" circles earth.
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The answer, most likely... is no.
This thing may have good gaming hardware now, but it doesn't have a firm upgradability path. With a PC, you can replace a 3D card, the CPU, etc as the machine gets older... you can't exactly rip the 3D chip out of a playstation and replace it.
Consoles were always supposed to replace PC's as gaming platforms... the problem is that games that come out on the PC always seem more... advanced than what comes out on a console.
Hell, it took them over a year to port Quake to a console and it doesn't even have networking support.
The 3D power of a TNT2 is enough to make most developers cry in extacy. PC hardware isn't exactly slow and to tell you the truth, the specs of this thing don't really impress me. It's poly count is fairly high, but remember it's running in a low resolution compared to a PC. You crank a PC running a voodoo 3 to 640x480 or even 320x200 and see what happens.
And when you add a modem, a keyboard, a mouse, a harddrive, etc to a console.. it ceases to be a console and becomes a PC.
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I think you are missing the point. Almost every single rule was created to benefit the movie goer. Lucas expects large lines, overcrowding, etc... so he wants to make sure that everyone who sees his movie is given the best experience.
Lucas is an artist, what do you expect?
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Ispell has a grammar checker in it? That's news to me... I don't think ispell would pick out "boy" as being incorrect.
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Ahhh.... you know... I've always thought that an OS should teach it's user how to use it. This may seem like a pretty simple idea and in some ways it's been done.
Mac's have come with their little tutorial deal since th early years, but I was thinking more on the lines of the interface itself teaching the user and learning their habits.
What people are missing is that the bulk of Linux was created because individuals needed specific features. Now some individuals need a working user interface because they want an easy to understand distribution... so what's the big deal?
It's not like they are forcing you to use this distribution. They bring more users to the Linux scene, which means more jobs for Linux users/developers and tech support people.
It's a win win situation.
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Microsoft really needs to change their official slogan to something like:
"Microsoft, where can force you to go today?"
These seems like the path MS is headed in. All these big name companies, Sony, Nintendo, Microsoft always use these legal scare tactics to get what they want because they know they can afford to fight... whereas you can not.
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I'm a gamer. I've played computer games since I was five with my TI 99/4a. I went through a few, morally questionable games like the Leasure Suit Larry series, the Id software titles, etc. Now, I've never felt any need to run around in a cheezy leisure suit trying to get laid while playing rambo and killing everything in sight.
After I got done playing a game I never felt like going out and emulating the game. Maybe it's because that most games are nowhere near the quality of a good action movie or maybe it's because I'm not psychotic.
Anyone who has the capacity and mental or emotional instability to kill someone cold doesn't need any help from the kill-everything-in-sight genre of games.
A game doesn't turn you into a cold blooded killer and even if it could, good parenting... or hell, any parenting at all is enough to counteract it.
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If Texas has over 90% of population as mexicans, can they start own war to join Texas to Mexico?
Of course. Any state in the union has the right to succeed from the union.. of course trying to succeed requires war, a war that Texas couldn't win.
Also it's not just the US which is in this, it's every other country besides china and russia that are in NATO. We just happen to have the most armed forces. So unless you live in Russia or China or one of those little countries, chances are your country is participating.
Shesh, UN != US. The US is just one country out of several that are part of the UN.
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Of course, appliances run OS's as well. Who said Microsoft can't write MS Windows AP.
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RC5 had source for a long time, but people kept modifying clients to give false reports.. not to mention use screwy compiler options which would result in broken binaries giving false reports.
SETI@Home does have source available if you register as a developer if I remember correctly.
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Worse, the System Registry, which was supposed to kill the confusion over autoexec.bat and config.sys files, has instead made these earlier configuration trials seem trivial.
The Registry was created to provide a place for Windows configuration settings. In a typical Windows installation you have 10-15k registry keys, reparsing an ini file over and over containing 10k keys to check if an application changed a setting would be silly, keeping it in memory is even sillier.
Remember databases are not evil. For all intents and purposes, your filesystem is a database, so saying text config files are more stable is a contradiction.
Autoexec.bat and config.sys still exist on windows 9x systems, they are DOS init scripts.
Just because windows has a bad implementation of a registry database doesn't mean it's a bad idea. AIX, MacOS, MacOS X Server, and a few other majors all have configuration databases which are extremely stable and robust.
Plus, you aren't meant to edit the registry directly. That's what that 500 meg GUI is for.
Modern X-based systems are amazingly user-friendly and often superior in design to commercial variants because they put stuff in there that we as users have demanded and created.
Superior is a strong word. Windows9x and Windows NT are extremely developer friendly. If you can get past the bloat of MFC (which Windows developers seem to have no problem doing), it is an extremely complete GUI API.
Consistancy is also an important part of the GUI experience. Microsoft has tried to maintain control over the consistancy of it's desktop for a very good reason. A user should be able to use any windows machine without having to relearn the interface.
I've never been a big Microsoft advocate. Their software is buggy and bloated, their development staff is directed by marketing, their spindoctors could make the catholic pope look like the antichrist if they wanted to, and their fearless leader has so much money that he simply doesn't care any more.
But, being a developer I understand that Windows does provide a lot that Linux doesn't... right now at least.
I'm ready to be flamed...
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All I really want is a tablet that works like the ones on ST.
Simple & small.
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You listed the moderation changes in detail, but what are the other changes? :)
:)
Maybe my reading comprehension skills need work or something
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Linux GUI isn't ready for prime time and I believe most people know it. There is such fragmentation in the X world it makes the Unix (R) world look unified.
You have a few dozen toolkits, several window managers where approx 80% of the code is duplicated, an immense codebase consisting of code designed to be backwards compatible with features people haven't used in 10 years, and a company which until recently wanted to close X off to the open source community.
Hack ontop of hack ontop of hack to make what was originally a glorified drawing API, a graphical user interface.
Linux is ready for corporate computing, server environments where you don't need a 600 meg GUI to run a 2 meg web server or mail server.
Linux will be ready for the desktop arena soon, just not right now.
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The statistic isn't 1 in 6 women is raped. The statistic is 1 in 6 women before college are sexually assulted. The other statistic is 1 in 3 women will be sexually assulted during their lifetime.
Sexual assult does not necessarily mean rape. Sexual assult can be anything perceived to be aggressive done in a sexual manner. Pinching a girl's butt while she walks by can be considered sexual assult.
Do you have any idea how hard it is to prove that someone was raped? It's basically one person's word against another and unless other parties come foward, there is no reason to believe that a woman is right and the man is wrong.
I've heard more than my fair share of stories about women who cry rape when their boyfriends find out they've cheated on them or the man they slept with breaks their heart.
The entire situation makes me sick.
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I guess this goes along the lines of the methodology I mentioned of corporations footing the bill for software they wanted and the software then becoming free to everyone else except in this case, the changes becoming free to everyone else.
This model does seem to be logical... if you can get companies to invest in you that is, and not their own programmers.
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You know, every time someone answers a question on how to make money with Open Source software, the answer seems to always be the same, technical support.
So, I should make my software blatently difficult to use and slightly buggy so that I get support contracts with companies?
Also, exactly how does an individual programmer (there are still a few of us left) make money with Open Source? It's not like we have the resources to write the program and do the commercial support by outselves. With the old shareware method this was easy, you provided documentation and sold the program...
I always liked the methodology of having a few major corporations who need the software finance it, and giving it away to everyone else. At least this model could be accomplished by an individual or a small group of people.
In a utopian society, Open Source * would be a perfect solution, unfortunately some of us need to live in capitalistic societies which exist today.
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