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Linux 2.2.7 Released

MazMart was the first to report that a new stable kernel. Linus decided to name it 2.2.7- a surprise move that enraged and shocked, but since it was the next available digit we shouldn't be all that surprised. Now if I only I had a T1- hemos would kill me if I seized control of the ISDN for something so selfish as as kernel.

146 comments

  1. Re:waiting for mirrors by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ftp.jp.kernel.org

    I'm already compiling...

  2. Re:waiting for mirrors by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ftp.jp.kernel.org may have the full source but no patch yet. What's with that?

  3. Re:NT is only on sp4 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    NT does not write device drivers, they expect vendors to write them.

  4. Not just 4 patches really. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's hard to say which actually has more builds. The linux kernel vs. windows nt isn't a fair comparison. If you'll notice, the NT4 SP3 build number is 1,381. That's 1,381 "patches". MS keeps all the builds they do in house. Only when they want to go public with something do they ever bother telling anyone. Thus, you end up waiting a long time for fixes.

    With Linux, you get to see the kernel as it is being improved. Every stable release, however, has to be done very carefully so that it can be used. Linux distributions then pick one and check that it works well for them. Or, if you're skilled in the art, you can get an update early, validate fixes, and even help with the coding.

  5. Re:Automatic kernel patch distribution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And the truly, truly wicked would send a forged linux-kernel-patch email, and watch people install their Trojan Horse automatically. ;-)

  6. Re:2.2.7? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    if you turn it backwards, you get 722, and we ALL know what that means.

  7. That's not newsworthy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    New kernel - big deal. This is getting so predictable. I can personally guarantee you that there will be a 2.2.8, 2.2.9 end eventually 2.3.0. People who really care about kernel upgrades will already be watching the relevant sites like kernel.org.

    The Slashdot frontpage deserves better.

  8. Beautiful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And what happens if someone forges mail to you from the mailing list, your procmail rule automagically patches your kernel, and you rebuilding later on. ;-) Nice way to fsck up your security.

    1. Re:Beautiful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, if some foresight was put into this (PGP signature etc), it wouldn't be a bad thing. Quite a nice feature, automatic installs - with the added caveat that you will have to trust the source. Sigh....A big cavet, I know.......

  9. Re:2.2.7? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    something you're not supposed to chmod a users files to?

  10. CVS, people! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Because the Linux kernel people don't use CVS like the Rest Of The World.

    1. Re:CVS, people! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Agreed. When is the Linux kernel going to get into the 90's WRT version control / configuration management???

  11. Re:Automatic kernel patch distribution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's another parallel to Microsoft.

    THEY sold an OS with a "new" technology called
    "multitasking" ignoring the fact, that UNIX does
    it for a good 30 years now.

    Same happens here, someone has an idea, actually
    re-inventing the wheel, so-to-say, and "sells" it
    as "brand new" ...

    I said it before - Linux sucks

  12. Re:Oops! :SP4 IS Build 1381 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Actually, every installation of NT I've ever done including all service packs has been build 1381.

    Ares, who somehow lost his cookie.

  13. Get A Life! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Obsessively getting the latest development release will leave your system in a terrible mess in no time at all.

    Sooner or later you'll wipe the disk and realize its easier and far more sane to deal with the stable package set.

    Let's face it - any linux version over 2.0 is more than adequate for what you're doing, assuming you represent the average user.

    1. Re:Get A Life! by draziw · · Score: 1

      Ha - (run-on time) If I had a life would I have just finished putting in the new 2.2.7 kernel after finding that the box I was working on didn't have as86 (part of bin86), so I had to go snag that too, at nearly 3am when I have to get up at 7am? I think not.. d'oh! I'm sure there is some really good reason I chose now to upgrade from 2.0.36... I'm just not sure what it was. I'll remember when I reboot that box. so there! If it makes you feel better - I'm not touching my firewall box's kernel. It stays at 2.0.36... I disagree with your comment that any version over 2.0 is adequate - If I remember correctly every version prior to 2.0.36 had some network vulnerabilities. (?) Are you sure you're not just mad that the last time you updated your kernel you forgot to run lilo before rebooting? ;)

    2. Re:Get A Life! by Jonathan+C.+Patschke · · Score: 1

      2.2.x releases are stable releases. And, assuming that you don't need PCI audio support, framebuffer support, or any of the other nifty multimedia features, or things like OOB protection, or memory-leak fixes, or hosts of other fixes, 2.0.0 should be fine for you.

      And, I don't know how you build kernels, but I, for one, always leave the previous version in /vmlinuz.old with a corresponding entry in lilo.conf, so there's never a need to wipe anything.

      And, just out of curiosity.... When, except maybe when EXT2 was first being toyed with, did upgrading the kernel leave anything in a terrible mess?

      Sir, you need to read the documentation, so that you know the proper procedures for upgrading the kernel,if you haven't learned to keep backups of a component before you upgrade it.

      Let's face it - 640K is enough for anybody. ;)


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      The previous sentence is false.
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  14. Re:Hey, guys, what do you think of this... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    57.2KB/s .. that's it? it must be capped

    i can max out from ftp.netscape.com
    at close to 178 or so.. heh.. the full
    1.5Mb/s

    of course the new DSLAMs can go to 2.2 i
    think.. i can't remember

  15. Re:waiting for mirrors by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ftp.funet.fi has always got the lastest kernel...

  16. 2.2.7 broke my Sparc :( by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've just installed 2.2.7 over my current 2.2.6
    installation, using the same .config file to
    build it. When I try and boot 2.2.7, it gets
    as far as the "Booting Linux..." message and
    locks up completely (power off necessary.)
    2.2.6 still boots fine, so what gives?

    (It's a more or less plain vanilla kernel with
    SMP support enabled.)

  17. Melissa wants to mail you her patch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    >The truly wicked could setup a procmail rule to feed mail from linux-kernel-patch directly to "patch -p1 -d /usr/src/linux" ...

    Can you say e-mail forgery? I though you could. Don't turn procmail into another Outlook clone

  18. Moo! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Evers since upgrading to kernel versions since 2.2.5, I have been getting messages that say
    -- MARK --
    every 20 minutes in my /var/log/messages. Some debugging code left in the kernel maybe?

    --Anonymous Cow Herd

    1. Re:Moo! by ToddScheetz · · Score: 1

      This happened to me too. But i upgraded to a new version of sysklogd at about the same time. I think it was the sysklogd that did it.

      -Todd

    2. Re:Moo! by Aki+Laukkanen · · Score: 2

      man syslogd

      -m interval
      The syslogd logs a mark timestamp regularly. The
      default interval between two -- MARK -- lines is 20
      minutes. This can be changed with this option.
      Setting the interval to zero turns it off entirely.

  19. Then FreeBSD must be the best! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    FreeBSD is an entire OS, kernel and applications and when 3.1-STABLE came out no bugs found in a month, unlike with Linux.

  20. HPFS updates? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What's this about HPFS updates? This is the first time in a while (unless I'm mistaken) I've seen this. I've already got the hpfs-rw driver, so I don't want this to replace it with the ro one. And if it is replacing it with the rw one, then that probably means it trying to patch the kernel will fail miserably?

    hmm, it's using a hpfs_fs.c (which it is patching), which is a file I don't have. (but is in the dir where I moved the ro to.) So, we're still updating the read-only driver?! WHY?!

    PS: This driver has been available for a WHILE, just so fellow OS/2'ers know. ;) (since 2.1.x) Look for version.. 1.90 or above, iirc.

    Also, where is there a good, descriptive changelog? (edge is just.. the basics.)

    - Ajay

    (don't forget the http? How many stupid ppl can there be in the world? Hmm, apparently more than I thought.)

  21. Re:Yo Mr. Up-to-date, You better hurry up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Days in the US, maybe..

  22. Blimey by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Blimey, that was quick. Can't keep up with all these patches. What's the average time between official kernel patches?

    1. Re:Blimey by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Let's just say it varies greatly. Anywhere from a few days (i.e. the past few patches) to months on end. (Time from 1.2.13 to 2.0.0). If you think the stable patches come quick, wait till you see what pours in once 2.3 gets started (just think, it's been nearly 5 months since the code freeze on 2.1, how many kernel developers are sitting out there just itchin to incorporate their new code into the kernel). Open Source Rocks!

    2. Re:Blimey by SalsaDoom · · Score: 1

      Well, 2.2 is still new as hell... so the masses who now use it find the bugs (all bugs are shallow... blah blah) so for the first little bit after a release as big and nifty as this they tend to climb the versions like crazy, then level out to .. i think its aroudn 4 stable releases a year once all its good.

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  23. Re:2.2.7? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    2.2.7
    ^ ^ ^
    | | |----> Minor revision 7
    | |
    | |---> Even for stable, hence 2.0.37 is stable, | 2.1.129 is unstable, 2.2.7 is stable
    |
    |
    |---> Major Version 2

  24. NT is only on sp4 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    How come NT has had 4 patches in 3 years and we're on 2.2.7 already?

    1. Re:NT is only on sp4 by Crow- · · Score: 1

      Umm, NT is a complete OS, not just a kernel.

      NOw, if a *DISTRIBUTION* had 7 releases in a few months then it would be time to complain.

      you cant compare kernel releases to NT service packs

    2. Re:NT is only on sp4 by raulmazda · · Score: 1

      > If you look at NT5, Microsoft is doing daily builds, and with every build, new things break and new things are fixed.

      Eh, that's just a matter of their software development model, not the actual complexity of the OS.

      I had to point that out as I'm applying some knowledge from my Software Engineering class to real life (posting on Slashdot woo!)...

      .Laz

    3. Re:NT is only on sp4 by gavinhall · · Score: 1

      Posted by chiem:

      Microsoft uses security via obscurity.
      Their bugs become "features."

    4. Re:NT is only on sp4 by Blewit · · Score: 1

      Because Microsoft has the funding to do major in-house testing, while the testing for linux has to occur through the community.

      Which begs the question why they don't ;)
      Lee.

    5. Re:NT is only on sp4 by Mooset · · Score: 2
      Is this is a bad thing? No way! Linux has upgrades at least once a week, meaning that there is always some new cutting edge feature being worked on. Not all the upgrades are critical however - you don't HAVE to go to 2.2.7 if 2.2.6 or even 2.0.36 is working fine for you. With NT however there is a large amount of time between each update, meaning that problems often go unadressed for an extended period of time. Also when Microsoft releases a service pack it usually makes a huge change to some aspect of the system, and most everyone MUST upgrade to it sooner or later. I would much rather use Linux's frequent updates than be stuck with an inadequate product.

      Not too long ago, there was an ac patch almost daily. Now THAT is bleeding edge!

    6. Re:NT is only on sp4 by matt[0] · · Score: 1

      I think that the most obvious point to consider is that the Linux community is not worried about losing face. If there is a problem, it needs only fixing, not fixing + PR Damage Control.

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    7. Re:NT is only on sp4 by Quikah · · Score: 1

      Actually they release hotfixes between service packs. Then they roll all the fixes into a new service pack. I am not too sure on how frequently they post these though.

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      Q.
    8. Re:NT is only on sp4 by Shadowlion · · Score: 0

      Ignoring the obvious troll/MS-bashing of this post...

      Oops. I guess there's no post to respond to, then.

    9. Re:NT is only on sp4 by CristianoMonteiro · · Score: 1

      And why they dont release ntkernel updates frequently ? or security fixes ?

      It is because NT doesnt have bugs ? Certainly not... ;)

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    10. Re:NT is only on sp4 by angelo · · Score: 1

      How come NT has had 4 patches in 3 years and we're on 2.2.7 already?

      Because we are better than that. We release security and bug fixes. :)

    11. Re:NT is only on sp4 by RichieBoy · · Score: 0

      Because it takes them 2 years to fix and release the most tiny simple little bug?

      Richard

    12. Re:NT is only on sp4 by PapaZit · · Score: 1

      The NT service pack includes many, many patches. Given that most NT administrators aren't too good at applying the service packs, Microsoft usually doesn't bother to release single patches. Also, NT doesn't change as much as Linux, for better or worse. The 2.2 kernels have a lot of new features in them, while NT is running the same stuff that it's been running for the last few years. If you look at NT5, Microsoft is doing daily builds, and with every build, new things break and new things are fixed.

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    13. Re:NT is only on sp4 by drudd · · Score: 1

      Because Microsoft has the funding to do major in-house testing, while the testing for linux has to occur through the community.

      Most of the changes to the linux kernel are to support different devices on the wide variety of platforms it supports (unlike NT, which is only Alpha and x86 as far as I know). I haven't had a single problem since 2.2.1, but I upgrade anyway just because I'm addicted to compiling :)

      Doug

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    14. Re:NT is only on sp4 by Kenneth · · Score: 4

      Linux has far more releases than any closed source OS, because the philosophy behind closed source code is to never let your customer see a bug. Obviously this hasn't worked with NT. Open source on the other hand, releases every even marginally working piece of software. This software is then viewed and 'fixed' by a large number of people, then resubmitted to whoever is maintaining that code.

      With closed source software, about 10% of the time is spent writing the code, then the rest is spend debugging. Debugging takes many many worker hours in order to do correctly. This is why there are alpha and beta versions available for some things, but they are still being tested.

      With open source, such things are not worried about. The user has access to the source code, and those thousands or hundreds of thousands of 'eyeball hours' looking at the code for problems, can be accomplished in a matter of days or even hours.

      There have been times during the development of linux that Linus released a new kernel version more than once a day. I would imagine that this happens more with the unstable releases. For discussion on how to tell, see earlier posts.

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  25. Archives, where? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Where are the linux-usb archives?
    There's nothing on linuxhq, and I didn't find anything on dejanews or altavista...

  26. ISDN? No wonder... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Rob,

    Get some funding! doesn't anyone want to invest a few bucks in /.? i mean, this site is getting stinking slow and even my poor clients ante up for 1.2 megabits. c'mon, join the amazons and yahoos and get this thing moving!

    1. Re:ISDN? No wonder... by JLester · · Score: 1

      I think he has ISDN at his house. The server is on a much faster connection.

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    2. Re:ISDN? No wonder... by havock · · Score: 1

      How can you believe that this server runs on a ISDN? Us geeks use more bandwidth then that. Slashdot is hosted on 4-7 Mbps on a T-3 at UPNetworks and all it's images are served from WolfeNet

      Took that from a article in this weeks Internet World. There is a nice article on /.

  27. Re:Automatic kernel patch distribution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Wow, that's really neat!

    Oh yeah, FreeBSD has had such a setup for a really long time, but I suppose most of you don't know that. FreeBSD uses a program called CTM ("CVS Through Mail") to send automatic updates for ports and the entire source tree for the branch of choice (src-2_2, src-3, ports-cur, src-cur). majordomo automatically sends tree updates to those who want them, and ctm_rmail searches the appropriate mail file for the "patches," and can apply the patches or just store them. The patches can also be send in pieces and reconstructed when all of them are sent.
    A really wicked setup, that has been implemented under FreeBSD for a long time.

    I just wanted to point a feature that probably isn't very well known implemented in FreeBSD.

  28. Re:Linux uptime? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3

    d00d, you overflowed your jiffies. Jiffies is the count the kernel uses to keep track of time since boot. On intel, with the default of 100Hz, it overflows in about 1.3 years ~ 500 days. You can change the default value, but its probably a bad idea because your changeing how often you processor is scheduled; your system will be considerably less responsive, etc. IIRC, Alan Cox wanted to fix this problem before 2.2 shipped, but Linus decided it wasn't that big of a deal.

  29. Changes from 2.2.6 to 2.2.7 by nikhil · · Score: 2

    Well, this url will work fine once it is updated, and it will show the updates in 2.2.7
    http://edge.linuxhq.com/changelis t.cgi?show=2.2.6

  30. Re:What is an ac patch? by ShadowBlade · · Score: 1

    Alan's patches tend to be more experimental and cutting edge in nature than Linus's patches. Often they are patches that need more testing before being submitted to Linus. He also collects the little bugfixes from linux-kernel and so they are all in one place. Linus then takes what he wants from the ac patches and rolls them into the main kernel.

  31. Re:Problems with 2.2.7 and Netscape 4.51 here by Elvii · · Score: 1

    no problem here.... mostly debian ~2.1 system(s), netscape 4.51, libc6 version, icewm... no kde, alas, i like lean wm's these days...

    David

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  32. Re:2.2.7? by Jordy · · Score: 1

    Isn't it:

    2.2.7
    ^ ^ ^
    | | -> patch level
    | |
    | ---> minor (even == stable, odd = unstable)
    |
    |----> major

    I've never heard of anyone calling the last digit a minor, major.minor.patch is how I've always seen it.

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  33. USB Support by Jordy · · Score: 5

    Hmm, the USB support in 2.2.7 appears to be an alternate development by Linus & friends rather than from the Linux USB project.

    Anyone have any ideas why they wrote their own instead of working with Linux USB project's version?

    The Linux USB projects sources seem farther along than what is included in the kernel.

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    1. Re:USB Support by Aki+Laukkanen · · Score: 3

      Yes, this has been a prime topic on the linux-usb list for a couple of weeks. You might want to search the archives for the "Alternate USB driver" thread.

      Linus posted the original announcement for the usb-0.01 code with a note that he couldn't understand the UUSBD code and needed something simpler. Well, I couldn't understand it either (which of course doesn't mean much :). Anyway the way I see it, things could go to two opposite directions from here; The two drivers keep on going on their separate paths or that they somehow merge in the future. I couldn't really see any future for UUSBD with the former scenario since Linus controls what goes into the kernel.

      The most likely scenario I'll see is that the internal structure is kept from Linus-USB (enhanced of course as time goes by) and that the good ideas and some of the higher level device class specific (etc.) code from UUSBD will be ported and merged to Linus-USB.

  34. Re:Automatic kernel patch distribution by Phroggy · · Score: 1

    Hmm, I haven't worked with procmail lately; I'm assuming it wouldn't be too hard to set it up to automatically compile everything (I have a shell script at /usr/src/linux/makeall that does that) and, depending on exactly how evil you were feeling, rename the old kernel, copy the new kernel, and re-run lilo. And patch /etc/issue and /etc/issue.net to reflect the new version.

    --
    $x='S24;r)>63/* h@<5+oZ)32"5cz';$me='phroggy'x$];
    $x=~y+ -xz+\0-Tx+;print$_^chop$me for split'',$x;
  35. Get A Life? by Bill+Currie · · Score: 1
    These people already `have a life'. Linux and computers is their life (and mine). Your life of bars, movie theaters and tv just isn't our life (though there is some overlap for many of us). You obviously use (or at least are reasonably familiar with) Linux to know what 2.0.x has to offer, but it seems you don't get any real excitement from purly intellectual pursuits. Downloading, installing and running latest releases gives us a thrill because we get to see if things work for us, and if not why not.

    As to movies, we'll go to the ones the interest us (eg TPM, Matrix, ST), but I doubt most geeks go to the movies just to get out and `have a life'. I certainly don't. I prefer reading a good SF book (The Star Fraction by Ken McCloud comes to mind), playing doom (a 486 won't cut it for quake) programming, or playing monopoly or scrabble with my wife (a semi repressed geek).

    You sir, have to learn that what thrills you does not necessarily interest anyone else.

    Leave other's their otherness. -- Marion Zimmer Bradly, The Survivours

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  36. Re:To overflow one's jiffies by Bill+Currie · · Score: 1

    We came

    We saw

    We overflowed their jiffies

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  37. Re:waiting for mirrors by John+Campbell · · Score: 1

    ftp6.us.kernel.org has it.

  38. Ours are 50KB. Theirs are 500MB. by gavinhall · · Score: 1

    Posted by FascDot Killed My Previous Use:

    'nuff said.

  39. Multicast 'em by volkris · · Score: 1
    Ya know, I think the MBone and all the other multicasting type experiments out there are perfect for distributing kernels/kernel patches.
    Too bad AFAIK no projects are in widespread use, otherwise we could have everyone download their kernels at once with no more load to the net in general than if just a couple accessed.


    Just a thought with disjointed output.

    1. Re:Multicast 'em by jd · · Score: 1
      Easy enough to do. There's Unix-based Multicast FTP software around.

      In fact, never mind getting it to the users, use this for mirroring! Have all the mirror sites run the appropriate s/w, and gateway onto the multibone if they don't already have a feed, then have the main site push the new s/w over to the new sites as and when it's available.

      That would speed up the availability of the distributions, no end!

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  40. Re:Linux uptime? by Olivier+Galibert · · Score: 1

    But it was actually fixed anyway.

    OG.

  41. NO. Jiffies go at 100Hz -- not 100Mhz. by John+Allsup · · Score: 1

    As the title says, Jiffies go at 100Hz. This is the kernel scheduler frequency. (i.e the bit to the right of the #define HZ in linux/include/asm/param.h) For a 1Ghz machine, jiffies will run out at the same rate (so far as our time is concerned), but the tasking will seem ~10 times coarser to the applications. That said, if the machine is 1Ghz, the overhead of doing 64bit jiffies is minor (or zero if you have a 64bit processor)

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  42. Re:Linux uptime? by John+Allsup · · Score: 1

    For the sake of a quick speed hack (i.e. make the overhead a little lighter compared to what was there previously), set HZ to some power of 2 (i.e. 128 or 1024) and use >>'s, 's and &'s rather than %'s. p.s. does anybody know how quickly the PII does mod's compared to adds, shifts and &'s?

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  43. USB by Aki+Laukkanen · · Score: 1

    I haven't gotten hold of the patch yet (and tried four mirrors already) but did Linus include the USB OHCI driver too? No use trying it because it is very incomplete. The version in 2.2.7-pre4 hanged the machine completely.

    1. Re:USB by Splork · · Score: 1

      It's not -in- the config.in yet for a reason, it is "pre-EXPERIMENTAL." OHCI support is not complete. UHCI support is partially working, but major development is still going on on this driver. Join the mailing list for more info.

      http://electricrain.com/linux/uusbd-www/

    2. Re:USB by bmacy · · Score: 1

      It was supposedly in the 2.2.7-pre releases but you had to uncomment the line in config.in.

  44. Re:waiting for mirrors by Troels+Arvin · · Score: 1

    At the time of writing, it's at

    - And probably at many other mirrors.

  45. 30 NT vs. 20 Linux Patches Since October 21, 1996 by Brian+Ristuccia · · Score: 2

    Microsoft Windows NT 4.0 has had 26 "HotFixes" for critical bugs since October 21, 1996. Combine this with the 4 service packs and multiple versions of vendor released drivers targeted at different subtle revision levels of NT for a confusing mess. In the same time span, Linux has been through 20 stable kernel releases. (2.0.24->36, 2.2.0->2.2.7) with almost every important device drives included in the standard kernel distribution.

  46. Patching.. by suprax · · Score: 3

    Rob and others, why don't you just patch the source? The last full kernel source I downloaded was like 2.2.1 I think. Since then, I have been downloading the patches, and after a while, I tarball and gzip the full source all up and I have an exact copy as the 13+ meg file. Try it. :)
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    1. Re:Patching.. by Nightshade · · Score: 1

      Patching the kernel is dead easy. All you have to do is download the patch-2.2.7.tar.gz file, say. Now assuming that linux is installed in the standard /usr/src/linux directory, you simply copy the patch file to /usr/src/linux/scripts.

      Once this complicated procedure has been completed, go to the scripts directory and type ./patch-kernel.

      Tough, huh?

      Note that if linux is installed elsewhere you should read the ./patch-kernel script for further instructions.

      Also, the script is clever enough so that if you have 2.2.1 installed, for example, and copy ALL the patch files for 2.2.2-2.2.7 into the scripts directory, it will automatically install all the patches in the correct order.

      Hope this is useful!!

  47. Re:Automatic kernel patch distribution by Paul+Jakma · · Score: 1

    both login and telnet can insert the kernel version automatically. (as well as time/date, nr. of users, etc..)

    read the issue, login and telnetd man pages.

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  48. Complain? by gas · · Score: 1

    Debian 2.2 (potato) is updated at least once a day. It's wonderful - you automatically get the latest of everything and needed security fixes.

    Of course, the latest is never thoroughly tested but thats what development versions are *for*.

  49. NT 2.4.345 by gas · · Score: 1

    Wouldn't something like NT 2.4.345 be more correct? Second release of NT (or was it just the GUI that changed?), fourth service pack and some extra patches.

  50. Re:2.2.7? by backstrom · · Score: 1
    Even is correct...as in 2.*2*.xx

    The second digit is always even in the release versions. That's how we got from 2.0.36 to 2.2.0.

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  51. Hey, guys, what do you think of this... by matty · · Score: 1

    If there were a symlink at ftp://ftp.us.kernel.org called 'latest' linked to (duh) the latest stable version of the kernel? Then you could just:

    $ ftp ftp.us.kernel.org

    login

    ftp> get latest

    Any problems with this idea? Sure would be neato, but is it unnecessary? Whatchall thank?

    P.S. Gotta love DSL:
    226 Transfer complete.
    11074355 bytes received in 189.01 secs (57.2 kB/s)

    :)

    1. Re:Hey, guys, what do you think of this... by matty · · Score: 1

      Yep, I'm capped, although not as much as I should be. :) I'm supposed to have a 256kb line, which would translate to approximately 32Kb, yet I regularly get 55-60Kb, and I've seen large downloads as high as 67Kb.

      Still pretty darn neat.....:)

    2. Re:Hey, guys, what do you think of this... by nosaj · · Score: 1

      Neato, of course... but suppose that mirror didn't have the latest kernel yet, and several thousand /.ers descended upon it using this method... that could be mucho-megabytes of wasted bandwidth, as those people would have to redownload the correct kernel that they wanted in the first place.

      I for one will stick to the old method. I want to know exactly what I'm getting... especially since I'm not on a fast link. :-(

    3. Re:Hey, guys, what do you think of this... by slashdot-me · · Score: 1

      67kb/s Pffffft...
      Redhat installs faster off carnegie mellon's ftp mirror than from my own cdrom (quad speed); and I'm in Berkeley.

      I love college. Mostly for the ethernet.

      http://www.ryans.dhs.org

  52. Re:Automatic kernel patch distribution by patrickv · · Score: 1

    > Same happens here, someone has an idea, actually
    > re-inventing the wheel, so-to-say, and "sells"
    > it as "brand new" ...

    > I said it before - Linux sucks

    So do you, Doug Michels ;-)

  53. Re:Problems with 2.2.7 and Netscape 4.51 here by timw · · Score: 1

    Well, can you get it to happen again? If you just run back to 2.2.6, how is the problem going to get fixed?

  54. SP4 IS Build 1341 by Ken+Broadfoot · · Score: 1

    You can think of SP4 as NT4.0.1341

    ( Or maybe NT4.1.1341 more accurate if you get my drift. )


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  55. Oops! :SP4 IS Build 1381 by Ken+Broadfoot · · Score: 1

    Sorry for the mix up.

    ( Like we really care that much )

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  56. Re:2.2.7? by boinger · · Score: 2
    No, the /second/ digit designates stability versus development.

    So, 1.0.x, 1.2.x, 2.0.x, and 2.2.x are all stable.
    1.1.x, 1.3.x, 2.1.x, and 2.3.x [the last doesn't exist, yet] are all development.

    It's too bad stupidity isn't painful"

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  57. Re:Linux uptime? by akharon · · Score: 1

    pardon my greenery, but what (tf) is a jiffy? i take it there were no phb's around when this word was made?

  58. MUCH easier patch method.. by Disconnect · · Score: 2

    (Presuming source is /usr/src/linux)
    cd /usr/src
    download patches (I like wget ftp://ftp.us.kernel.org/pub/linux/v2.2/patch-2.etc )

    linux/scripts/patch-kernel

    Ta da! All patched.
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  59. s/bzip/bzip2/,s/bzcat/bz2cat/ by squarooticus · · Score: 1

    That 2 always annoyed me. =)

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  60. ARGH! by squarooticus · · Score: 1

    I always do stupid things when I'm drunk. "Yes, Billy, don't put parameters in ANGLE BRACKETS when the forum is HTML!!!!"

    Line 3 should be

    "In increasing order of version number, perform the following patch:

    zcat [patch file] | patch -p2"

    Useful additional content: The -p2 option tells the patch program how many /'s to discard in the filenames. In this case, it should discard the first two (and any preceeding non-/'s.) Man patch for more info.
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  61. Hmmm... by squarooticus · · Score: 1

    I guess I should get with the program. I don't think that script existed when I started compiling kernels.

    It took me almost a year after the appearance of "menuconfig" to start using it instead of "config". =)
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  62. Re:2.2.1 to 2.2.7, Can i patch it? by squarooticus · · Score: 2
    Yeah, so, for the newbies who've never done a patch, here's the quick patch instruction:

    1. Download the patch(es) -- starting at the version following the source tree you already have -- from the appropriate kernel mirror. Download the .gz version if you don't know whether you have bzip or not.
    2. cd /usr/src/linux
    3. In increasing order of version number, perform the following patch:
      zcat | patch -p2

      where you should replace zcat with bzcat if you downloaded the .bz2 versions.
    4. Then, make (|menu|x)config and you're off!

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  63. To overflow one's jiffies by Zach+Baker · · Score: 2
    "d00d, you overflowed your jiffies."

    What a great phrase! Let's use it as a slang term.

    "All right already, don't overflow your jiffies!"

    "When I saw httpd was using 300 megs of memory, I nearly overflowed my jiffies."

    1. Re:To overflow one's jiffies by Rewd · · Score: 1
      "Furiously, she stood and glared at me, her jiffies totally overflowing."


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    2. Re:To overflow one's jiffies by gravious · · Score: 1

      i was reading /. when my boss snuck up on me. i totally overflowed my jiffies!

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  64. Re:2.2.7? by Prickle · · Score: 1

    no no no ... it's the second digit in hte version number that indicates whether or not the kernel version is "stable". (i.e. all 2.2.x kernels are rated as "stable" while the next developement series will be the 2.3.x series)

    -Rob

  65. Re:Cool. time to upgrade. by Prickle · · Score: 1

    I dunno ... I'm still on 2.2.4 ... if the patch rate keeps going like this I'm just gonna wait til 2.2.10 comes out.

    -Rob

  66. Re:2.2.7? by EngrBohn · · Score: 1

    The minor version number (the middle one) is even, indicating a stable version (ie, all 2.2.x versions are officially "stable"). The 7 is the revision of the minor version.
    Christopher A. Bohn

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  67. if you want all-the-wayness by Firehawk · · Score: 1

    have the same procmail rule call a script that will do checksums and/or pgp signatures .... and rejecting all patches that failed that test then the security problem will only defer to trusting the people who put out the official patches ... and their machines ... and their pgp keys ... hmmm ....... i'd like to see a windows user make service packs auto-install -- no, wait. downloading service packs takes all day anyway ...

  68. Re:waiting for mirrors by prijks · · Score: 1

    ftp.be.kernel.org has it already as well... full tree and patch... but only in bz2

  69. Re:Automatic kernel patch distribution by prijks · · Score: 1

    > The truly wicked could setup a procmail rule to
    > feed mail from linux-kernel-patch directly to
    > "patch -p1 -d /usr/src/linux" ...

    that would imply a rather large amount of trust, tho... course most people prolly a lot of people just patch everything blind any without making sure it is trustworthy or at least comparing pgp signatures or checksums...

    but if you want to go all the way, you'll need to have that procmail rule also call a script that recompiles the kernel, and upon success of that copies it to the proper place, runs lilo, and reboots the machine.

    quite a nice maintenance free approach to sys-admining... quite a nice maintenance free approach to security breaches too, imho... but i'm paranoid... =)

  70. Jiffies....... by MAXOMENOS · · Score: 1

    If what I understand about Jiffies is true, then a 100MHz machine is going to run out of Jiffies in 497 days, right? So, if we ever get to gigahertz processing, then Linux will actually have the same maxiumum uptime (49.7 days) that Windows NT has (49.7 days) on ANY machine. I wonder if this is also true for dual or quad processor machines? I haven't had time to read through the source yet, does anyone know?

  71. why credit the first person to submit it? by bneely · · Score: 2

    For major linux industry news such as new kernel releases and new distro releases, I'd personally like to suggest that no outside contributor's name be attached to it. I'm referring to such things as "Bonzo was the first to mention that 2.2.2-ac4 has been released", not the "Posted by CmdrTaco" lines. Maybe 150 people post such a news item, or maybe only 15 - I really don't know, but awarding people as the first to report a story that will shortly be all over the major Linux sites anyway is just like people posting "first!" comments - it isn't *that* much of a contribution. News about kernel releases is available through so many mediums - usenet, mailing lists, other websites such as freshmeat.net, etc.

    The types of contributions which should be encouraged are the obscure story of someone in Australia getting a Windows refund, or a Usenet post about writing drivers for some new hardware. Post-worthy articles that receive less than 5 unique submissions by external Slashdot readers are the ones that really deserve honorable mention.

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  72. Re:2.2.7? by VValdo · · Score: 1

    yep, with marla gibbs... who has a cameo in "Lost & Found" which I recommend you all avoid.

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  73. Re:Linux uptime? by Sanderr · · Score: 1

    One's jiffy counters use a 32 bit register@100Hz, thus overflowing in 497 days.
    There already exists a patch to make uptimes of >100 years possible.
    It resides here

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  74. yikes... by cswiii · · Score: 1

    never have I felt so out of date, until I've realised that my linux box is already way behind (still have 2.2.2), because it doesn't have a net connection.

    On a slightly off topic, can anyone point me to that comparison of linux v nt with the .1 and .01 database comparisons? I can't find that article on /. anywhere...

  75. VCs want profits by xoddam · · Score: 2

    Slashdot is a public forum, not a money-making machine. It does make a small profit, keeping our favourite administrators in leisure time, but at the moment it is not an in-your-face commercial venture.

    If Rob needed more cash, he'd charge more for banner ads, put more of them in, or even go to the bank. Going to a VC is asking for millions, promising big returns. If slashdot was trying to make money off us (in a big way) it would turn off the traditional readership.

    Don't you think so?

    Jonathan

    1. Re:VCs want profits by Abstract · · Score: 1

      > If slashdot was trying to make money off us
      > (in a big way) it would turn off the
      > traditional readership.
      > Don't you think so?

      No. I read /. for the quality of it. I don't see a relationship between quality and making money. It doesn't have to mean both can't live happily along. I'd still read /. if Rob put a few more banners on his site. But maybe I'm not part of this so called 'traditional readership'.

  76. waiting for mirrors by rillian · · Score: 1

    Hmph! None of the mirrors I've checked have it.

    Don't they push these things?

    1. Re:waiting for mirrors by virid · · Score: 1

      what's wrong with bz2???

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  77. credit for submissions by JamesKPolk · · Score: 1

    It seems to me that it really doesn't hurt anyone when people get credited... and it just might make someone's day.

    It just might encourage that person to submit in the future; he might submit something obscure yet interesting the second time.

  78. Re:Archives, where? -here by Splork · · Score: 2

    See http://electricrain.com/linux/uusbd-www/ for the project.

    The list archive is at
    http://electricrain.com/lists/archive/linux-usb/

    Yes, this is not Inaky's driver. There are two drivers under development. The smaller one was sparked off by Linus because we needed something simple & functional in the kernel today for many reasons you can figure out yourself...

    The projects are working together and will likely merge bunches of code.

    BTW, working OHCI support is coming. The stuff in the 2.2.7 kernel is -not- even complete yet (Linus put it in despite a couple hopeful plees from me and others to wait until that worked).

    No big deal though. It's not even enabled in config.in as "EXPERIMENTAL" because we all agreed that it hasn't reached that status yet.

    If you want web pages for code history and latest snapshots on the small driver you'll have to find them yourself from the list archive; its on my DSL line which would quickly /.

  79. a joke by raistlinne · · Score: 1

    I think that he was just joking. There may be some special significance, though, tha tisn't terribly obvious.

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  80. Re:What is an ac patch? by ethereal · · Score: 1

    To post a reply to the main topic, you have to press the Reply button at the top of the page. This is in the same row as the Threshold, and comment-ordering drop-down menus. It wasn't immediately obvious to me either :)

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  81. Yo Mr. Up-to-date, You better hurry up by Zico · · Score: 1

    RedHat 6.0's been out for days now. Hell, I'm already on my second installation of it, and I'm the freakin' King of procrastination! :-P

    Cheers,
    ZicoKnows@hotmail.com

  82. Huh?? by Zico · · Score: 1

    You do know that the whole internet thing is international, right? In fact, I couldn't even find a U.S. site that had RedHat 6.0 for quite a while -- I ended up downloading it from a site in the U.K. -- ftp://unix.hensa.ac.uk.

    Cheers,
    ZicoKnows@hotmail.com

  83. No need for a T1... by _Stryker · · Score: 0

    Hey CT,

    Why not download the patches instead! (Of course,
    I'm one to be talking since I'm connected to my school's network which has 100mbs to Sunet :o)
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  84. Re:2.2.7? by DaKrushr · · Score: 1

    Some people a pretty thick... :)

    It was a JOKE!

  85. You are missing something by Tenareth · · Score: 2


    The Linux kernel is developed by multiple people, however Linus is the only one to add to the "official" kernel. While I'm not sure why he doesn't use RCS (maybe he does), CVS would be pointless, since there is no "concurrent" development done on the official kernel. However, there was talk of him using a much better system for the type of development the kernel does (bitwize or something like that, which is designed much closer to the development model of the kernel). However, I haven't watched the kernel group lately, so don't know where that discussion went.

    This is not a desktop calculator, it is best that all patches get reviewed, not just added and debugged later.

    -- Keith Moore

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  86. Re:NT is only on sp4 - GOOD by Soko · · Score: 1

    Why? Because NT is such a huge, lumbering beast, its patches are too.

    SP4 for the Alpha was a 48Mb download - and the file is a self-extracting exe. If you have Macs, you need another 3 or so hotfixes, and it still won't work quite right without trashing the MacVolume index and rebuilding it. (They re-wrote SFM (Services For Macintosh) to use the disk for the index instead of memory) That 48Mb basicly replaces a full 75% of the OS - exes, dlls, drivers and other such important items. Also, in order to be Y2K ready, you need 2 other "patches" - Internet Exploder 4.01 and Data Acess objects 2.0. It's a scary thing.

    My personal experience with SP4 is mixed - killed a few machines, saved others. I would like it better if I could just patch what was needed.

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  87. Re:2.2.1 to 2.2.7, Can i patch it? by SpaFF · · Score: 1

    You can patch it but you have to get the 2.2.2, 2.2.3, 2.2.4, 2.2.5, 2.2.6, and the 2.2.7 patch and patch them in order...

    Still better than d/ling the whole thing though

    -Lee

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  88. Linux 2.2.7 by periscope · · Score: 1

    Just in the process of upgrading from 2.2.6 now. Its 0:46am over here in Reading, England (near London), but what the hell? I want to be the ***most*** up to date Linux user I know :-) (my copy of RH 6.0 will arrive on Monday - the day of Release! :-)

    periscope.

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  89. Cool. time to upgrade. by angelo · · Score: 0

    I'm on 2.2.2, guess it's time to move on to 2.2.7. Maybe this weekend.

    1. Re:Cool. time to upgrade. by angelo · · Score: 1

      Yeah, that would work too...

      :)

      but i need the tcp/ip fix from 2.2.4.

  90. 2.2.7? by Dr.+Sp0ng · · Score: 1

    I thought stable versions ended in even numbered digits. Or am I just dumb?

    "Software is like sex- the best is for free"

    1. Re:2.2.7? by ooPo · · Score: 1

      I was hoping for something a little juicier than that... its been a slow day. :)

    2. Re:2.2.7? by PDG · · Score: 1

      hmmm . . .227, wasn't that a TV show from the 80's?


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  91. Automatic kernel patch distribution by LucaL · · Score: 2

    If you send mail to Majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu with "subscribe linux-kernel-patch" in the body, you will automagically receive the latest patch, as soon as it is posted by the Linus.

    If the patch is too big (> ~400k) you will receive a notification and the diffstat output.

    The truly wicked could setup a procmail rule to feed mail from linux-kernel-patch directly to uudecode and then invoke /usr/src/linux/scripts/patch-kernel on the resulting file ....

    1. Re:Automatic kernel patch distribution by nosaj · · Score: 1


      Why patch /etc/issue* if you haven't rebooted yet? You'd still be running the old kernel.

    2. Re:Automatic kernel patch distribution by generic-man · · Score: 1

      The truly wicked could setup a procmail rule to feed mail from linux-kernel-patch directly to uudecode and then invoke /usr/src/linux/scripts/patch-kernel on the resulting file ....

      That's sick. That's wicked. That's demented.

      I love it.

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    3. Re:Automatic kernel patch distribution by stor · · Score: 0

      Nice one mr. FreeBeastie

      Someone posts an idea for a filter in procmail and you say "Linux Sucks"

      What exactly is MS'ish about configuring procmail? And what exactly is the big deal? Did Linus announce this hot new feature of Linux, that you can use procmail to patch your kernel?

      Good effort lamer.

      Stor

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  92. Automatic kernel patch distribution by LucaL · · Score: 4

    If you send mail to Majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu with "subscribe linux-kernel-patch" in the body, you will automagically receive the latest patch, as soon as it is posted by the Linus.

    If the patch is too big (> ~400k) you will receive a notification and the diffstat output.

    The truly wicked could setup a procmail rule to feed mail from linux-kernel-patch directly to "patch -p1 -d /usr/src/linux" ...

  93. Small Patch to get USB to compile by LucaL · · Score: 5

    I have just posted it to linux-kernel:

    --- drivers/usb/usb.h.bak Wed Apr 28 21:59:45 1999
    +++ drivers/usb/usb.h Wed Apr 28 22:08:08 1999
    @@ -363,8 +363,8 @@
    void usb_audio_interface(struct usb_interface_descriptor *, u8 *);
    void usb_audio_endpoint(struct usb_endpoint_descriptor *, u8 *);
    #else
    -extern inline void usb_audio_interface(struct usb_interface_descriptor *, u8 *) {}
    -extern inline void usb_audio_endpoint(struct usb_endpoint_descriptor *, u8 *) {}
    +extern inline void usb_audio_interface(struct usb_interface_descriptor *interface, u8 *data) {}
    +extern inline void usb_audio_endpoint(struct usb_endpoint_descriptor *interface, u8 *data) {}
    #endif

    #endif

  94. What is an ac patch? by syrupdude · · Score: 1

    actually... my first question is how do I post post a reply to the main topic, rather than sombeody else's reply?
    Back to the ac patch thing. I'm pretty sure "ac" stands for Alan Cox. But are these patches solely his work? Or does he gather all of the patches and combine them under his initials? Are they included in the 2.2.7 release?
    I'm just an idiot, so forgive me if I don't understand how it all works.

  95. ROFL! by Josh+Turpen · · Score: 1

    That definately needs to be added to the jargon file :)

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  96. yeah by mistabobdobalina · · Score: 1

    i'd love to write the biz plan for Slashdot, the Geek Portal...users highly tech saavy, spend a lot on computers, mp3 players, and nachos...hey if antionline can get vc funding /. can!

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  97. and they said linux has no central control by mistabobdobalina · · Score: 2

    not that thats a bad thing: i think this is a good counterpoint to FUD

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  98. 2.2.7? by ooPo · · Score: 1

    I must have missed something. What's the big deal with the name '2.2.7' anyways?

  99. 2.2.1 to 2.2.7, Can i patch it? by direwolph · · Score: 1

    I've never patched a kernel to upgrade, but i want to know if i can just d/l the patch instead of the whole thing. (Yeah, i know it's kindof a newbie question)
    --direwolph

  100. Re:Linux uptime? by Znork · · Score: 1

    Hmmm. My uptime on that system has been a source of pride, so I rather agree with Alan Cox that it should be fixed. Oh, well, the system needed an upgrade anyway, and now I'll probably have to reboot or strange things may happen.

  101. Linux uptime? by Znork · · Score: 4

    Well, a bit on the silly side, I just went through a horrible horrible bug in Linux 2.0.30. After somewhere around 500 days uptime... IT WRAPPED!
    According to last, it went up at:

    reboot system boot Tue Dec 16 22:51

    (That would be 1997).

    Now:
    11:40pm up 22:21, 1 user, load average: 0.01, 0.04, 0.00

    Suddenly I was back at 0 uptime, and my logfiles went through a spasm with kernel error messages ending with this:

    Apr 28 01:56:07 dream kernel: Call Trace: [do_gettimeofday+34/68] [sys_gettimeof
    day+44/112] [system_call+85/124]
    Apr 28 01:56:07 dream kernel: Code: f7 f1 ba 10 27 00 00 89 c1 31 c0 f7 f1 a3 dc
    fa 1a 00 89 c3

    Oh, well, still it didnt panic, altho a load of apps including X went haywire.

    It sorta puts life into a perspective too. Last time I rebooted this machine I was 25. Now I'm 27. Agh.

  102. Re:Even simplier: 2.2.1 to 2.2.7, Can i patch it? by weaselp · · Score: 1

    put the patches into your /usr/src directoy. They need not be all of the same type, i.e. some may bz2 others gz..

    then from /usr/src run linux/scripts/patch-kernel

    that's it. then:
    make (menu|x)?config bzImage modules modules_install
    HTH
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  103. Problems with 2.2.7 and Netscape 4.51 here by xardoz · · Score: 2

    As soon as I load up Netscape 4.51 and hit the bookmarks button it locks thats running with KDE 1.1, YMMV
    I'm back to 2.2.6 :(

  104. no big deal by B.W.+Hogg · · Score: 1

    It was a joke. He was being facetious.