I suspect that Pepsi promotion is going to help pad Apple's numbers if it looks like they're going to be a little short.;)
I believe Jobs said they're giving away (not selling) 100 million songs via Pepsi; this will be in addition to the 100 million they want to sell. So really, that'll be a total of 200 million, if you consider that Pepsi's marketing department is basically buying 100 million songs.
Of course, in order to redeem your free bottlecap song, you have to 1) download and install iTunes, and 2) sign up for an iTMS account. Once that's done, and you've gotten your one free song, you might as well buy a few more, right?
Since iTunes requires Windows 2000, Windows XP or Mac OS X, not everyone can run it. Those still running Windows 98 or Mac OS 9 can either give away or throw away their winning bottlecaps.
Since this is MacOS, are they allowed to do this kind of thing? I assume "maybe" but if not, where do I submit my complaint?
Try the microsoft.public.mac.messenger and microsoft.public.internet.outlookexpress.mac newsgroups to see if other people might have solutions (you can browse online here). The "Send Feedback" menu option in MSN Messenger 3.5 unfortunately just redirects to a generic MSN Messenger home page now. I'm sure it's possible to hack the software to use Mozilla instead.
Keep in mind that Outlook Express has been discontinued and the version of MSN Messenger you're using is old (the new version of MSN Messenger on Mac OS X respects my default browser settings just fine). Microsoft absolutely will not fix these issues, because they no longer support the software at all.
Why in hell are you installing outlook and MSN if you're on Mac? You have the chance to be 100% microsoft-free, and yet you blow it. Don't complain about it.
Outlook Express is a decent mail client, and MSN Messenger is the only way to chat online with people who refuse to use anything other than MSN Messenger. It's not about being Microsoft-free, it's about having the choice to use the best tools for the job; occasionally that may include Microsoft software.
I do have a few tips though : switch to something else your your email (does Safari comes with an email client? If not, surely there's other options, especially on OS X).
Mac OS X includes an e-mail client simply called Mail. However, he specifically said he was running Mac OS 9, presumably because his hardware is too old to run Mac OS X or he runs applications (or drivers) that don't work on Mac OS X. So, Safari and Mail are both out of the question. Mozilla Mail is obviously an option, although it has the same type of problem he described with Outlook Express (links clicked in Mozilla Mail will open in a Mozilla browser window, not your default browser) - but since Mozilla is his default browser anyway, it's a non-issue. Eudora is another option.
As for MSN, just switch to ICQ or get a multi-protocol client like Trillian (or similar if Trillian isn't available on OS X).
Trillian is Windows-only, and I'm not aware of any multi-protocol clients for Mac OS 9 (Fire and Proteus are Mac OS X-only). Doesn't do much good to switch to ICQ if the people he wants to talk to are using MSN.
Apple makes money selling music on the iTunes music store. Probably not much money yet, but certainly they will make considerably more money if they don't restrict users to the Mac platform.
Actually they make no money on the iTMS at the moment. It exists primarily to sell iPods, which do make money.
With the advent of iTunes for Windows, the iTunes Music Store became the largest distributor of online music overnight.
Wrong. According to Jobs, citing Nielsen I think, it was already the largest distributor of online music, with 70% market share, before the advent of iTunes for Windows.
I don't understand why Dell is trying to do it's own server and doesn't just cut a deal to install iTunes on all Dell desktops.
I think it's a personal thing between Michael Dell and Steve Jobs. Everything Apple does, Dell copies, poorly. They're competitors, not partners.
One of the reasons iTunes for Windows exists is to give people a taste of the Apple experience and make them want more, so they'll consider Apple for their next hardware purchase. That's definitely not something Dell wants to promote.
Okay, I'll bite -- why do you say that Sesame Street's Bob seemed innocent "at the time"? Does he have some kind of criminal record?
I simply meant that he seemed innocent at the time I met him, as opposed to all the other time before and since, during which I haven't seen him in person and therefore don't know how he would seem. I have no reason to believe he wouldn't seem (or indeed be) innocent at those times as well.
It installs QuickTime because iTunes is written to require QuickTime. I don't know, but I suspect part of this is because QuickTime for Windows contains a partial implementation of the Carbon APIs, and iTunes for Mac is a Carbon app, so relying on QuickTime would make porting much easier.
I wasn't particularly annoyed at my submission being rejected, I was more surprised that (I thought) nobody else's submission on the same story was posted.
2003-10-16 20:49:36 Verisign To Sell Network Solutions (articles,news) (rejected)
Not sure why Slashdot doesn't think this is newsworthy, but Pivotal Private Equity is buying Network Solutions from Verisign for $100 million. Pivotal Private Equity is a subsidiary of Pivotal Group, Inc., an investment company based in Phoenix AZ that is primarily focused on real estate (hotels, office buildings, etc.); clearly domain registrations have nothing to do with their business and they are purely interested in making money (not that there's anything wrong with that).
Apple has just started to get interested, so I don't think it's dead yet. If Apple comes up with a killer app for it (which they might now that they've started looking), the rest of the industry will follow.
I think you are mistaken. WAV and AIFF are both compressed data formats. I think the point you are trying to make is that AIFF is "lossless", as opposed to a lossy format like MP3 or Apple's own MACE encoding formats.
My understanding was that WAV and AIFF are uncompressed, but the same argument would apply to lossless compression formats. Graphics analogy: BMP:JPEG::WAV:MP3, but PNG is lossless.
74 minutes of uncompressed audio at CD quality should take 650MB of space. You can encode at lower quality, which results in a smaller file, but that's like reducing the resolution of your uncompressed BMP file - it's not really compression.
But I don't really know what I'm talking about. Perhaps you could explain in a little more detail?
AIFF is preferred for Apple machines mainly because byte ordering suits the CPU.
Is the byte ordering of the m68k the same as PowerPC? I thought m68k and x86 were little-endian while PPC is big-endian (I have no idea what I'm talking about). I'm pretty sure AIFF was Apple's preferred format before they switched to the PowerPC, so if all these assumptions are correct then your claim about byte ordering doesn't make sense.
AIFF seems to be the high-resolution ripping option.
Seems to be? Uhhh. Like WAV, AIFF is uncompressed, so the quality should be identical to the raw data from a CD. AIFF has always been Apple's preferred format, but both are supported. By the way, cdparanoia can rip to AIFF just fine (use the -f flag).
Now these lines tell me that two kernel modules are involved, com.apple.filesystems.afpfs and com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily. The first one is related to AppleTalk and the second probably to your video card. To eliminate these as possible problems you should turn off AppleTalk (System Preferences->Network->AppleTalk and uncheck Make AppleTalk Active) and you should try reinstalling your video card drivers.
Very interesting! Actually AppleTalk is off; afpfs means AppleTalk Filing Protocol filesystem, a.k.a. AppleShare, which can go over TCP/IP instead of AppleTalk. I run netatalk on my Linux server and keep my home directory mounted via AFP on my Mac. I know netatalk and OSX don't get along with each other all the time; I've had weird issues like what seem to be conflicting file ID numbers or something (I could explain if anyone's interested). Netatalk works just fine with OS9, but OSX's implementation is different; AFP is probably a damn strange protocol and I'm guessing it's completely undocumented.
I do have cheap after-market RAM. Unfortunately since it can be a month or two between panics, seeing if the "system is more stable" without the RAM isn't really practical.
I tried repairing permissions last night while booting from a CD; some of the things it repaired were in SecurityAgent.app. However, it didn't help the problem. This one is at least consistent - I wasn't aware of it until I set Console to launch when crashes occur, but now I see the crash occurs every time I authenticate - immediately upon login, or when unlocking my keychain, or unlocking System Preferences, and probably other times. Doesn't actually cause any problem though, which is interesting.
Ah, video drivers - it just occurred to me that I installed SwitchResX, which I'm not actually using (it lets me run at a higher resolution, but the refresh rate is painful, so I'm not doing it). Could be related. System is an eMac 700 with GeForce 2MX.
At this point it's probably not really worth doing a lot of troubleshooting; Panther comes out in a week and a half....
What I want to know is, will they ship the Netscape 7 browser to subscribers, ship a Netscape-branded hack of Internet Explorer with the home page set to netscape.com, or provide no extra software at all?
This could be a nightmare for tech support. You have no idea how many times I've had people tell me their web browser or Internet Service Provider was Yahoo, because that's what their home page was set to.
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I suspect that Pepsi promotion is going to help pad Apple's numbers if it looks like they're going to be a little short. ;)
I believe Jobs said they're giving away (not selling) 100 million songs via Pepsi; this will be in addition to the 100 million they want to sell. So really, that'll be a total of 200 million, if you consider that Pepsi's marketing department is basically buying 100 million songs.
Of course, in order to redeem your free bottlecap song, you have to 1) download and install iTunes, and 2) sign up for an iTMS account. Once that's done, and you've gotten your one free song, you might as well buy a few more, right?
Since iTunes requires Windows 2000, Windows XP or Mac OS X, not everyone can run it. Those still running Windows 98 or Mac OS 9 can either give away or throw away their winning bottlecaps.
Since this is MacOS, are they allowed to do this kind of thing? I assume "maybe" but if not, where do I submit my complaint?
Try the microsoft.public.mac.messenger and microsoft.public.internet.outlookexpress.mac newsgroups to see if other people might have solutions (you can browse online here). The "Send Feedback" menu option in MSN Messenger 3.5 unfortunately just redirects to a generic MSN Messenger home page now. I'm sure it's possible to hack the software to use Mozilla instead.
Keep in mind that Outlook Express has been discontinued and the version of MSN Messenger you're using is old (the new version of MSN Messenger on Mac OS X respects my default browser settings just fine). Microsoft absolutely will not fix these issues, because they no longer support the software at all.
Why in hell are you installing outlook and MSN if you're on Mac? You have the chance to be 100% microsoft-free, and yet you blow it. Don't complain about it.
Outlook Express is a decent mail client, and MSN Messenger is the only way to chat online with people who refuse to use anything other than MSN Messenger. It's not about being Microsoft-free, it's about having the choice to use the best tools for the job; occasionally that may include Microsoft software.
I do have a few tips though : switch to something else your your email (does Safari comes with an email client? If not, surely there's other options, especially on OS X).
Mac OS X includes an e-mail client simply called Mail. However, he specifically said he was running Mac OS 9, presumably because his hardware is too old to run Mac OS X or he runs applications (or drivers) that don't work on Mac OS X. So, Safari and Mail are both out of the question. Mozilla Mail is obviously an option, although it has the same type of problem he described with Outlook Express (links clicked in Mozilla Mail will open in a Mozilla browser window, not your default browser) - but since Mozilla is his default browser anyway, it's a non-issue. Eudora is another option.
As for MSN, just switch to ICQ or get a multi-protocol client like Trillian (or similar if Trillian isn't available on OS X).
Trillian is Windows-only, and I'm not aware of any multi-protocol clients for Mac OS 9 (Fire and Proteus are Mac OS X-only). Doesn't do much good to switch to ICQ if the people he wants to talk to are using MSN.
dosen't that sound counter-intuitive? I mean, usually you sell the hardware at a loss and make your bank on selling intangibles (like data services)
Apple doesn't exactly have a reputation for being traditional, do they?
Apple makes money selling music on the iTunes music store. Probably not much money yet, but certainly they will make considerably more money if they don't restrict users to the Mac platform.
Actually they make no money on the iTMS at the moment. It exists primarily to sell iPods, which do make money.
With the advent of iTunes for Windows, the iTunes Music Store became the largest distributor of online music overnight.
Wrong. According to Jobs, citing Nielsen I think, it was already the largest distributor of online music, with 70% market share, before the advent of iTunes for Windows.
I don't understand why Dell is trying to do it's own server and doesn't just cut a deal to install iTunes on all Dell desktops.
I think it's a personal thing between Michael Dell and Steve Jobs. Everything Apple does, Dell copies, poorly. They're competitors, not partners.
One of the reasons iTunes for Windows exists is to give people a taste of the Apple experience and make them want more, so they'll consider Apple for their next hardware purchase. That's definitely not something Dell wants to promote.
Wish I could mod you up.
Yes, because as we know, Apple PowerPC based hardware does not use IRQ's.
/proc]$ cat interrupts /proc]$ uname -a
Can't tell if you're being obvious or sarcastic, but if the latter, it actually doesn't. Sorry for Slashdot's formatting:
[phroggy@thyme
CPU0
2: 0 AMIC Edge SCC, SCC
3: 3865388 AMIC Edge MAC MACE
10: 860 AMIC Edge ADB
19: 3849470 AMIC Edge 53C94
21: 0 AMIC Edge SWIM3
30: 11269744 AMIC Edge ARIEL2
32: 0 AMIC Edge SCC-rxdma
33: 0 AMIC Edge SCC-txdma
34: 0 AMIC Edge SCC-rxdma
35: 0 AMIC Edge SCC-txdma
36: 3562573 AMIC Edge MAC MACE DMA
38: 0 AMIC Edge SWIM3-dma
40: 0 AMIC Edge AWACS IN
41: 7 AMIC Edge AWACS OUT
42: 11139126 ROOT Edge AMIC
BAD: 0
[phroggy@thyme
Linux thyme.webwizardry.lan 2.4.22-rc2 #10 Thu Oct 9 03:04:47 PDT 2003 ppc unknown
Okay, I'll bite -- why do you say that Sesame Street's Bob seemed innocent "at the time"? Does he have some kind of criminal record?
I simply meant that he seemed innocent at the time I met him, as opposed to all the other time before and since, during which I haven't seen him in person and therefore don't know how he would seem. I have no reason to believe he wouldn't seem (or indeed be) innocent at those times as well.
I wish it didn't install quicktime.
It installs QuickTime because iTunes is written to require QuickTime. I don't know, but I suspect part of this is because QuickTime for Windows contains a partial implementation of the Carbon APIs, and iTunes for Mac is a Carbon app, so relying on QuickTime would make porting much easier.
Apple makes no money on the iTMS; iTunes and the iTunes Music Store exist solely to sell iPods, or entice people to buy Macs.
I met him once; he seemed innocent enough at the time.
Wow, I don't see how I missed that.
:-\
I wasn't particularly annoyed at my submission being rejected, I was more surprised that (I thought) nobody else's submission on the same story was posted.
So I'm an idiot.
Yeah, yeah, I can't be the only one who didn't read the article...
2003-10-16 20:49:36 Verisign To Sell Network Solutions (articles,news) (rejected)
Not sure why Slashdot doesn't think this is newsworthy, but Pivotal Private Equity is buying Network Solutions from Verisign for $100 million. Pivotal Private Equity is a subsidiary of Pivotal Group, Inc., an investment company based in Phoenix AZ that is primarily focused on real estate (hotels, office buildings, etc.); clearly domain registrations have nothing to do with their business and they are purely interested in making money (not that there's anything wrong with that).
Verisign's press release is here.
"Use error correction when reading Audio CDs"
That option wasn't there in 4.0, was it? Kick ass...
Apple has just started to get interested, so I don't think it's dead yet. If Apple comes up with a killer app for it (which they might now that they've started looking), the rest of the industry will follow.
I agree. That's all I put in mine, because I generally don't like trying to fix things that aren't broken on production servers.
I think you are mistaken. WAV and AIFF are both compressed data formats. I think the point you are trying to make is that AIFF is "lossless", as opposed to a lossy format like MP3 or Apple's own MACE encoding formats.
My understanding was that WAV and AIFF are uncompressed, but the same argument would apply to lossless compression formats. Graphics analogy: BMP:JPEG::WAV:MP3, but PNG is lossless.
74 minutes of uncompressed audio at CD quality should take 650MB of space. You can encode at lower quality, which results in a smaller file, but that's like reducing the resolution of your uncompressed BMP file - it's not really compression.
But I don't really know what I'm talking about. Perhaps you could explain in a little more detail?
AIFF is preferred for Apple machines mainly because byte ordering suits the CPU.
Is the byte ordering of the m68k the same as PowerPC? I thought m68k and x86 were little-endian while PPC is big-endian (I have no idea what I'm talking about). I'm pretty sure AIFF was Apple's preferred format before they switched to the PowerPC, so if all these assumptions are correct then your claim about byte ordering doesn't make sense.
Even when they had their own open standards compliant and cross platform browser, arguably much better than IE, they still used IE in their products.
Just in AOL for Windows I think - Compuserve, and AOL for Mac OS X, are currently Gecko-based.
AIFF seems to be the high-resolution ripping option.
Seems to be? Uhhh. Like WAV, AIFF is uncompressed, so the quality should be identical to the raw data from a CD. AIFF has always been Apple's preferred format, but both are supported. By the way, cdparanoia can rip to AIFF just fine (use the -f flag).
Now these lines tell me that two kernel modules are involved, com.apple.filesystems.afpfs and com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily. The first one is related to AppleTalk and the second probably to your video card. To eliminate these as possible problems you should turn off AppleTalk (System Preferences->Network->AppleTalk and uncheck Make AppleTalk Active) and you should try reinstalling your video card drivers.
Very interesting! Actually AppleTalk is off; afpfs means AppleTalk Filing Protocol filesystem, a.k.a. AppleShare, which can go over TCP/IP instead of AppleTalk. I run netatalk on my Linux server and keep my home directory mounted via AFP on my Mac. I know netatalk and OSX don't get along with each other all the time; I've had weird issues like what seem to be conflicting file ID numbers or something (I could explain if anyone's interested). Netatalk works just fine with OS9, but OSX's implementation is different; AFP is probably a damn strange protocol and I'm guessing it's completely undocumented.
I do have cheap after-market RAM. Unfortunately since it can be a month or two between panics, seeing if the "system is more stable" without the RAM isn't really practical.
I tried repairing permissions last night while booting from a CD; some of the things it repaired were in SecurityAgent.app. However, it didn't help the problem. This one is at least consistent - I wasn't aware of it until I set Console to launch when crashes occur, but now I see the crash occurs every time I authenticate - immediately upon login, or when unlocking my keychain, or unlocking System Preferences, and probably other times. Doesn't actually cause any problem though, which is interesting.
Ah, video drivers - it just occurred to me that I installed SwitchResX, which I'm not actually using (it lets me run at a higher resolution, but the refresh rate is painful, so I'm not doing it). Could be related. System is an eMac 700 with GeForce 2MX.
At this point it's probably not really worth doing a lot of troubleshooting; Panther comes out in a week and a half....
What I want to know is, will they ship the Netscape 7 browser to subscribers, ship a Netscape-branded hack of Internet Explorer with the home page set to netscape.com, or provide no extra software at all?
This could be a nightmare for tech support. You have no idea how many times I've had people tell me their web browser or Internet Service Provider was Yahoo, because that's what their home page was set to.
Mon Jul 21 21:11:30 2003
Unresolved kernel trap(cpu 0): 0x300 - Data access DAR=0x00000000 PC=0x19830f5c
Latest crash info for cpu 0:
Exception state (sv=0x19709500)
PC=0x19830F5C; MSR=0x00009030; DAR=0x00000000; DSISR=0x40000000; LR=0x198314BC; R1=0x11D6BC40; XCP=0x0000000C (0x300 - Data access)
Backtrace:
0x11D6BC60 0x198314BC 0x198339F8 0x000BDF84 0x001D96C0 0x001D97C0 0x0020F3CC 0x00092970
0x00070003
Kernel loadable modules in backtrace (with dependencies):
com.apple.filesystems.afpfs(3.8.2)@0x19816000
Pr oceeding back via exception chain:
Exception state (sv=0x19709500)
previously dumped as "Latest" state. skipping...
Exception state (sv=0x19632780)
PC=0x9000AFCC; MSR=0x0000F030; DAR=0xE12E7000; DSISR=0x42000000; LR=0x9023A20C; R1=0xBFFFCB90; XCP=0x00000030 (0xC00 - System call)
Kernel version:
Darwin Kernel Version 6.6:
Thu May 1 21:48:54 PDT 2003; root:xnu/xnu-344.34.obj~1/RELEASE_PPC
panic(cpu 0): 0x300 - Data access
Latest stack backtrace for cpu 0:
Backtrace:
0x0008581C 0x00085C4C 0x000287B4 0x0008F6C8 0x000927D8
Proceeding back via exception chain:
Exception state (sv=0x19709500)
PC=0x19830F5C; MSR=0x00009030; DAR=0x00000000; DSISR=0x40000000; LR=0x198314BC; R1=0x11D6BC40; XCP=0x0000000C (0x300 - Data access)
Backtrace:
0x11D6BC60 0x198314BC 0x198339F8 0x000BDF84 0x001D96C0 0x001D97C0 0x0020F3CC 0x00092970
0x00070003
Kernel loadable modules in backtrace (with dependencies):
com.apple.filesystems.afpfs(3.8.2)@0x19816000
&n bsp; Exception state (sv=0x19632780)
PC=0x9000AFCC; MSR=0x0000F030; DAR=0xE12E7000; DSISR=0x42000000; LR=0x9023A20C; R1=0xBFFFCB90; XCP=0x00000030 (0xC00 - System call)
Kernel version:
Darwin Kernel Version 6.6:
Thu May 1 21:48:54 PDT 2003; root:xnu/xnu-344.34.obj~1/RELEASE_PPC
***
We d Jul 23 16:58:05 2003
Unresolved kernel trap(cpu 0): 0x400 - Inst access DAR=0x1ada2000 PC=0x00000000
Latest crash info for cpu 0:
Exception state (sv=0x1A1C6280)
PC=0x00000000; MSR=0x40009030; DAR=0x1ADA2000; DSISR=0x40000000; LR=0x00226828; R1=0x12D2BC30; XCP=0x00000010 (0x400 - Inst access)
Backtrace:
0x0002E300 0x0022647C 0x00226C70 0x0022948C 0x0022FB0C 0x1A34BC74 0x0003EAD0 0x0003E9D8
Kernel loadable modules in backtrace (with dependencies):
com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily(1.2.6)@0x1a33f00 0
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(1.2)@0x1a25f000
Proce eding back via exception chain:
Exception state (sv=0x1A1C6280)
previously dumped as "Latest" state. skipping...
Exception state (sv=0x1A413780)
PC=0x00000000; MSR=0x0000D030; DAR=0x00000000; DSISR=0x00000000; LR=0x00000000; R1=0x00000000; XCP=0x00000000 (Unknown)
Kernel version:
Darwin Kernel Version 6.6:
Thu May 1 21:48:54 PDT 2003; root:xnu/xnu-344.34.obj~1/RELEASE_PPC
panic(cpu 0): 0x400 - Inst access
Latest stack backtrace for cpu 0:
Backtrace:
0x0008581C 0x00085C4C 0x000287B4 0x0008F6C8 0x000927D8
Proceeding back via exception chain:
Exception state (sv=0x1A1C6280)
PC=0x00000000; MSR=0x40009030; DAR=0x1ADA2000; DSISR=0x40000000; LR=0x00226828; R1=0x12D2BC30; XCP=0x00000010 (0x400 - Inst access)
Backtrace:
0x0002E300 0x0022647C 0x00226C70 0x0022948C 0x0022FB0C 0x1A34BC74 0x0003EAD0 0x0003E9D8
Kernel loadable modules in backtrace (with dependencies):
com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily(1.2.6)@0x1a33f00 0
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(1.2)@0x1a25f000
  ; Exception state (sv=0x1A413780)
PC=0x00000000; MSR=0x0000D030; DAR=0x00000000; DSISR=0x00000000; LR=0x00000000; R1=0x00000000; XCP=0x00000000 (Unknown)
Kernel version:
Darwin Kernel Version 6.6:
Thu May 1 21:48:54 PDT 2003; root:xnu/xnu-344.34.obj~1/RELEASE_PPC
*********
Mon Jul 28 14:56:20 2003
Unresolved kernel trap(cpu 0): 0x400 - In