So one time I'm driving through Phoenix, which like any large city has lots of bad, agressive, drivers, and I come to a stop light that isn't functioning. There is no cop there yet or anything. Amazingly, traffic continues to proceed normally. One way goes for a bit, stops, peopel do left turns, the other way starts up, stops, people do left turns, and so on. I'd never seen anything like it, I would have figured something like that to lead to a big accident in a short amount of time, but everyone there seemed to be able to cooperate.
I lived in Phoenix for 4 years, and I really have a hard time imagining that it would go that smoothly, considering what maniacs Phoenix drivers are. Do you happen to remember where this particular intersection was?
I was looking at the pictures on the article and it looks like it has 3 PCI slots. Are there not Mac PCI Video cards? Or is it not as simple to upgrade as a PC?
I was referring to limitations of the eMac in that paragraph. The eMac is an all-in-one unit with pretty much everything on-board, so there are no PCI slots. The PowerMac does have PCI slots, as you describe - as does the self-built system in the article.
Sorry if I wasn't clear. I can run X apps remotely now. I want to know if I'll be able to run OSX apps remotely, in the same way (preferably tunneled over SSH, since that's usually easiest).
So, it's a G4/800 tower, for $775 plus extra hardware (hard drive, etc.) plus software (Mac OS X, applications). In contrast, the eMac is a G4/800 for $799 and includes a 17" monitor, 40GB hard drive, CD-ROM, Mac OS X, and a handful of software (AppleWorks, Quicken, World Book Encyclopedia, etc.). Oh, and a full 1-yr warranty from Apple.
Of course, the eMac isn't expandable (you can upgrade the RAM and add an AirPort card; everything else has to be external, and you can't run a split desktop on dual monitors). Still, compare to eBay...
Not only are your numbers and dates wrong (System 7.5 came out in 1995 IIRC, and the Quadra was the high-end desktop line, not a low-end laptop), but this really has nothing to do with my question. I'm asking about the specifics of Longhorn compared to XP and OSX, not trying to make a general statement about the progress of computing or whatever.
For example. XP lets somebody else log at your console without you having to log out first. OSX will also have this in September, but doesn't now. Will Longhorn have an even better way of handling multiple users on the same box?
XP and 2k have the Remote Desktop thingie. Mac OS X doesn't come with this, but Apple has a version you can buy. I expect Apple to include it with a future version of OSX. However, what I really like being able to do is running just a single application (not an entire desktop) across the LAN, like I can with X. Will Longhorn support this? Will OSX?
Microsoft has gotten interested in command-line tools. What are the odds they'll include an SSH server? Will their CLI tools actually work worth beans?
What kinds of features can we expect in Longhorn that Apple won't already have had for awhile by the time it ships?
Apple should be shipping Mac OS X 10.3 (or whatever they call it - codename Panther) running on 64-bit PowerMac G5 systems in September 2003. Two years after that, they'll have had another major release of OSX, and even the iBook should be G5-based.
How does Longhorn compare to XP and OSX for home users?
When you are using the system it would tell you where the email will be coming from.
Well, I think I've seen one or two sites that do tell you in advance. I guess a lot more are going to have to start, if they want to do business with people who use whitelist systems (challenge-response or otherwise). I think Earthlink's current effort will almost certainly fail, and make a lot of people very angry. We'll see how it goes.
When I had to run IE at work, I would keep IE and Mozilla both open, and use IE for ONLY the sites that required IE, and Mozilla for everything else. This led to a much more pleasant browsing experience than what you describe.
You may want to set up a Squid box as a caching proxy server. You can either tell everybody to use it, or set it up transparently - the former is simpler, but a few people may not use it, which makes it less effective for everybody. If you set it up transparently, some users might get annnoyed if they have any issues.
Remind everybody to use Shift-Reload (Netscape/Mozilla), Ctrl-Refresh (MSIE for Windows) or Option-Refresh (MSIE for Mac) if they have problems getting the most recent version of a page.
<plug type="shameless">Then you could install BannerFilter...</plug>
This may not actually be such a bad idea. You'll have to look at the security implications. Each resident would need a WiFi card or router, but that's a lot cheaper than a DSL modem, especially since some residents will want to connect a WiFi router to their DSL modem anyway. Residents would have (sort of) 11Mbps connectivity amongst themselves (assuming IEEE802.11b), which neighbors who become friends (or friends who become neighbors) will appreciate.
Sorry for the harsh subject line, but I find it difficult to believe that a person can make it more than a few years in life without noticing that virtually every consumer product is priced this way.
When I visited Italy in '96, I noticed that prices were NOT set up this way, due to the absurdity of Italian currency (smallest coin = 50 lire). I thought it was sort of a refreshing change. Now that they've switched to the Euro, though, I'm sure they're in line with the rest of us.
Yeppers, a nice, peaceful, easygoing religion like Islam. Not like those evil Norwegian grandmothers who flew the planes into the twin towers, or those sick Aleutians that continue to blow up school buses.
Islam does NOT advocate terrorism. Just because the terrorists call themselves Muslim doesn't mean most other Muslims agree with them. Just because Jerry Falwell calls himself Christian doesn't mean most other Christians agree with him.
Violent fundies (and the people they call friends), be they Christian, Hebrew, Co$, Islamist, or Buddhist (ha) deserve to to be distrusted. End of story.
Considering he went to Hong Kong and associated with 5 people who were trying to fight with the Taliban, it doesn't look to good for him.
Allegedly.
Or is it no longer important that he hasn't been convicted by a jury of his peers, because he's being accused of associating with terrorists? The Constitution be damned, let him burn.
KDE and Gnome need to come to an agreement on some common dialogs, work on a design for these dialogs and how they will work, and then implement them using a shared library that both will access. I don't care how it is implemented - the dialogs can be written in straight X11 so it looks the same on both, or the library can check for what environment is being used and pop up a dialog that is written using GTK+ or QT. As long as they look and work the same, I'm happy.
My thought was, make a new widget toolkit thing, and make wrappers for it that would basically emulate Qt or GTK+, so that apps could be written natively for the new toolkit, existing Qt apps would use the Qt wrapper and then actually use the new toolkit underneath that (without rewriting the app), and existing GTK+ apps could use a GTK+ wrapper the same way - so, Qt and GTK+ apps would both look and behave the same, and user preferences would apply to all. Make a wrapper for Tk too. Plain X apps, of course, would be on their own. From the user's perspective, there would basically be one single GUI standard. Existing apps would not have to be rewritten, but would immediately work with the new GUI, although it might be nice to add enhancements.
I'm not a programmer, so I have absolutely no idea how feasible this idea is. Of course it's not likely to happen, because OSS projects usually get started by somebody with a personal itch to scratch, and I just don't see that happening here. Aside from that... is it doable? Suggestions?
I'm a long-time Slackware user, but some months ago I installed RedHat 8 just to see what it looked like, and it was very nearly that simple. Not perfect, but better than I expected.
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So one time I'm driving through Phoenix, which like any large city has lots of bad, agressive, drivers, and I come to a stop light that isn't functioning. There is no cop there yet or anything. Amazingly, traffic continues to proceed normally. One way goes for a bit, stops, peopel do left turns, the other way starts up, stops, people do left turns, and so on. I'd never seen anything like it, I would have figured something like that to lead to a big accident in a short amount of time, but everyone there seemed to be able to cooperate.
I lived in Phoenix for 4 years, and I really have a hard time imagining that it would go that smoothly, considering what maniacs Phoenix drivers are. Do you happen to remember where this particular intersection was?
Actually in Mac OS X I find it rather convenient to be able to see what's behind my semi-transparent terminal windows.
By and large Apple's choices aren't really all that innovative, just common-sense smart. Why can't others do the same?
"Common sense" isn't.
I was looking at the pictures on the article and it looks like it has 3 PCI slots. Are there not Mac PCI Video cards? Or is it not as simple to upgrade as a PC?
I was referring to limitations of the eMac in that paragraph. The eMac is an all-in-one unit with pretty much everything on-board, so there are no PCI slots. The PowerMac does have PCI slots, as you describe - as does the self-built system in the article.
Yup
Sorry if I wasn't clear. I can run X apps remotely now. I want to know if I'll be able to run OSX apps remotely, in the same way (preferably tunneled over SSH, since that's usually easiest).
Well, for one thing, support for the x86-based processor family...
Agreed - why do so many Slashdotters keep whining that it should be otherwise?
So, it's a G4/800 tower, for $775 plus extra hardware (hard drive, etc.) plus software (Mac OS X, applications). In contrast, the eMac is a G4/800 for $799 and includes a 17" monitor, 40GB hard drive, CD-ROM, Mac OS X, and a handful of software (AppleWorks, Quicken, World Book Encyclopedia, etc.). Oh, and a full 1-yr warranty from Apple.
Of course, the eMac isn't expandable (you can upgrade the RAM and add an AirPort card; everything else has to be external, and you can't run a split desktop on dual monitors). Still, compare to eBay...
Not only are your numbers and dates wrong (System 7.5 came out in 1995 IIRC, and the Quadra was the high-end desktop line, not a low-end laptop), but this really has nothing to do with my question. I'm asking about the specifics of Longhorn compared to XP and OSX, not trying to make a general statement about the progress of computing or whatever.
For example. XP lets somebody else log at your console without you having to log out first. OSX will also have this in September, but doesn't now. Will Longhorn have an even better way of handling multiple users on the same box?
XP and 2k have the Remote Desktop thingie. Mac OS X doesn't come with this, but Apple has a version you can buy. I expect Apple to include it with a future version of OSX. However, what I really like being able to do is running just a single application (not an entire desktop) across the LAN, like I can with X. Will Longhorn support this? Will OSX?
Microsoft has gotten interested in command-line tools. What are the odds they'll include an SSH server? Will their CLI tools actually work worth beans?
Software support?
OSX has been pretty weak in this area, but is getting better, and in 2 years I don't expect this to be a problem.
What kinds of features can we expect in Longhorn that Apple won't already have had for awhile by the time it ships?
Apple should be shipping Mac OS X 10.3 (or whatever they call it - codename Panther) running on 64-bit PowerMac G5 systems in September 2003. Two years after that, they'll have had another major release of OSX, and even the iBook should be G5-based.
How does Longhorn compare to XP and OSX for home users?
When you are using the system it would tell you where the email will be coming from.
Well, I think I've seen one or two sites that do tell you in advance. I guess a lot more are going to have to start, if they want to do business with people who use whitelist systems (challenge-response or otherwise). I think Earthlink's current effort will almost certainly fail, and make a lot of people very angry. We'll see how it goes.
Simply add donotreply@[host].com to the white list. No problem.
This assumes I know in advance what that address is going to be, without having received mail from them yet.
And for the handful of us that like graphics, we have Intel's product..
Well, you can tunnel X11 over SSH, but yeah, it's not fast. Handy in a pinch though.
Thanks for making me aware of that interesting feature.
This page passes W3C validation, and still crashes IE.
When I had to run IE at work, I would keep IE and Mozilla both open, and use IE for ONLY the sites that required IE, and Mozilla for everything else. This led to a much more pleasant browsing experience than what you describe.
Hopefully John Carmack won't be at this convention....
I just read them for the programming info.. really! I swear, there's a perfectly reasonable explanation.
Aha! I wondered how that worked, thanks! I'll do that at home.
IE is the only browser I'm aware of that tries to do this, and only on Windows.
You may want to set up a Squid box as a caching proxy server. You can either tell everybody to use it, or set it up transparently - the former is simpler, but a few people may not use it, which makes it less effective for everybody. If you set it up transparently, some users might get annnoyed if they have any issues.
Remind everybody to use Shift-Reload (Netscape/Mozilla), Ctrl-Refresh (MSIE for Windows) or Option-Refresh (MSIE for Mac) if they have problems getting the most recent version of a page.
<plug type="shameless">Then you could install BannerFilter...</plug>
Go wireless!
This may not actually be such a bad idea. You'll have to look at the security implications. Each resident would need a WiFi card or router, but that's a lot cheaper than a DSL modem, especially since some residents will want to connect a WiFi router to their DSL modem anyway. Residents would have (sort of) 11Mbps connectivity amongst themselves (assuming IEEE802.11b), which neighbors who become friends (or friends who become neighbors) will appreciate.
Sorry for the harsh subject line, but I find it difficult to believe that a person can make it more than a few years in life without noticing that virtually every consumer product is priced this way.
When I visited Italy in '96, I noticed that prices were NOT set up this way, due to the absurdity of Italian currency (smallest coin = 50 lire). I thought it was sort of a refreshing change. Now that they've switched to the Euro, though, I'm sure they're in line with the rest of us.
Yeppers, a nice, peaceful, easygoing religion like Islam. Not like those evil Norwegian grandmothers who flew the planes into the twin towers, or those sick Aleutians that continue to blow up school buses.
Islam does NOT advocate terrorism. Just because the terrorists call themselves Muslim doesn't mean most other Muslims agree with them. Just because Jerry Falwell calls himself Christian doesn't mean most other Christians agree with him.
Violent fundies (and the people they call friends), be they Christian, Hebrew, Co$, Islamist, or Buddhist (ha) deserve to to be distrusted. End of story.
What makes you say he's one of them?
Considering he went to Hong Kong and associated with 5 people who were trying to fight with the Taliban, it doesn't look to good for him.
Allegedly.
Or is it no longer important that he hasn't been convicted by a jury of his peers, because he's being accused of associating with terrorists? The Constitution be damned, let him burn.
KDE and Gnome need to come to an agreement on some common dialogs, work on a design for these dialogs and how they will work, and then implement them using a shared library that both will access. I don't care how it is implemented - the dialogs can be written in straight X11 so it looks the same on both, or the library can check for what environment is being used and pop up a dialog that is written using GTK+ or QT. As long as they look and work the same, I'm happy.
My thought was, make a new widget toolkit thing, and make wrappers for it that would basically emulate Qt or GTK+, so that apps could be written natively for the new toolkit, existing Qt apps would use the Qt wrapper and then actually use the new toolkit underneath that (without rewriting the app), and existing GTK+ apps could use a GTK+ wrapper the same way - so, Qt and GTK+ apps would both look and behave the same, and user preferences would apply to all. Make a wrapper for Tk too. Plain X apps, of course, would be on their own. From the user's perspective, there would basically be one single GUI standard. Existing apps would not have to be rewritten, but would immediately work with the new GUI, although it might be nice to add enhancements.
I'm not a programmer, so I have absolutely no idea how feasible this idea is. Of course it's not likely to happen, because OSS projects usually get started by somebody with a personal itch to scratch, and I just don't see that happening here. Aside from that... is it doable? Suggestions?
I'm a long-time Slackware user, but some months ago I installed RedHat 8 just to see what it looked like, and it was very nearly that simple. Not perfect, but better than I expected.
Of course, I wouldn't put it on a server...