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Intel's 'Personal Server': The Handheld Killer?

markbaard writes "Intel is developing a wireless, pocket-sized personal server that may replace laptops and PDAs altogether. The 'personal server,' which is being developed at Intel Research by ubiquitous computing wizard Roy Want, is the size of a deck of cards, half the weight of an iPaq, and has no i/o, no screen, and no peripherals. The device never leaves its user's pocket or handbag. Pictures of the personal server and the story are at baard.com."

330 comments

  1. How can it replace a PDA? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    It has no screen, how would you do anything with it?

    1. Re:How can it replace a PDA? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      your girlfriend doesn't have a screen either.

    2. Re:How can it replace a PDA? by mhesseltine · · Score: 5, Informative

      According to the article, this "box" has both Bluetooth and 802.11 interfaces. You walk up to any PC that supports these technologies and can access your box.

      I imagine that, alternatively, you could use a Bluetooth keyboard, speakers, etc. and display? to use this.

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    3. Re:How can it replace a PDA? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Good point. Maybe the user interface is separate from the device. Think of the device as being attatched to you like a watch, with a thinner client in your wallet or something.

    4. Re:How can it replace a PDA? by Troll_in_Captivity · · Score: 1, Funny

      I beg to differ.

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    5. Re:How can it replace a PDA? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      This is great! Now all I have to carry is this server in my pocket and a full sized PC and monitor! Where can I get one of these things?!?

    6. Re:How can it replace a PDA? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      no, i don't think you're getting it. see, you walk up to one of these booths with a screen and keyboard, swipe your credit card, and you're able to use your box thing at the rate of $5/min.

    7. Re:How can it replace a PDA? by WiPEOUT · · Score: 3, Funny

      She definitely has some I/O capabilities, though :p

    8. Re:How can it replace a PDA? by AndroidCat · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I see a niche for "box booths" that provide a keyboard, screen and connectivity for people on-the-go.

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    9. Re:How can it replace a PDA? by netsharc · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Well, to quote the site and the poster of the article, it has no I/O at all. Gee, a server no one can store information in, and no one can get information out of, get yours now! Obviously it has I/O in the form of Bluetooth and/or Wi-Fi, and what a cool idea it is, as if it's a natural extension of your brain as storage. Imagine going to a job interview and just showing up, sitting down, and have your resume show up on the interviewer's computer. I'm sure the folks at the RIAA will be cringing with horror tomorrow morning. With a sane security system, maybe you can have publically accessible folders, and personal folders, and imagine being able to get MP3s just by walking around the office/campus.

      It won't kill the PDA, but if will probably transform it to just an information viewing device.

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    10. Re:How can it replace a PDA? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How the fuck is this redundant. It's at the top of the page.

      Fucktards.

    11. Re:How can it replace a PDA? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      and has no i/o

      allow me to point out that a computing device with no i/o is of no use whatsoever. either that, or the submitter does not understand what the i and/or o stand for.

    12. Re:How can it replace a PDA? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I see a niche for trojan horse "box booths" that record everything you do, and either keep a copy for the black hats who set it up, or forward a copy to the government spooks who set it up.

      Sure, there will always be good-natured types who provide such things with no evil intent, but think about the rest of the world. They're the ones who would pervert such an idea as soon as they found some way to make money from it.

      "What? We can sell the data about what they carry around to marketers? Get on it immediately!"

      It all goes downhill from there.

    13. Re:How can it replace a PDA? by Psion · · Score: 1

      Nope, try this on for size: you're on the road, trying to find the regional rail terminal that will get you to work as soon as possible after a morning doctor's appointment (I just did this last Friday). With this server device, I'd have to find a place to pull over and "dock" to get access to the copied transit schedules I have in my server -- wasting precious minutes and possibly causing me to miss a train.

      But with these pages in a PDA, I can compare the schedules of all the local lines and select the closest station that will get me into the office sooner, saving me money, gas, and time. And I can do this while sitting at a red light or before I leave the doctor's parking lot.

      Sorry, this pocket server needs I/O to replace the PDA.

    14. Re:How can it replace a PDA? by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1
      Think of the device as being attatched to you like a watch, with a thinner client in your wallet or something.

      I think after buying one of these you will find that the thinner client is your wallet...

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    15. Re:How can it replace a PDA? by briareus · · Score: 1

      That's hardly replacing a PDA. It might complement or redefine it, but not replace it. It's about like saying fuel cells will replace the automobile... :P

    16. Re:How can it replace a PDA? by jscribner · · Score: 1

      This all sounds a lot like what IBM proposed over a year ago.
      See the Meta Pad announcement (Feb 2002) or read about it on Slashdot

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    17. Re:How can it replace a PDA? by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

      After reading several posts here, it should be fairly obvious that this "personal server" is a pretty stupid idea. But this should be of no surprise to anyone: it comes from Intel's research division.

      What innovations has Intel research ever come up with which don't involve manufacturing silicon-based microprocessors? None! What boxed end-user devices (not components like motherboards and processors) has Intel ever made that were successful? None! Remember Intel's "Play" toys? Axed. Remember their consumer device division (makers of their wireless keyboard/mouse, crappy 1MP camera, etc.)? Axed. Intel has never been good at figuring out how to use the components they manufacture, and has failed every time they tried. I wouldn't recommend anyone wasting any more of their time with any more of Intel's idiotic ideas like this.

    18. Re:How can it replace a PDA? by Piranhaa · · Score: 1

      Why don't they release this with an optional bluetooth screen that uses those new 2mm thin LCD screens :) ... Wouldn't be too bad of an idea if they were touch screen ;)

  2. Permalink to the Article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative
    1. Re:Permalink to the Article by rcharbon · · Score: 1
  3. I've got one of these already by WIAKywbfatw · · Score: 4, Funny

    It's tightly integrated, I carry it around with me all the time, I never lose it and it's never crashed yet. It doesn't cost a thing and it comes as standard.

    It's called a "brain".

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    1. Re:I've got one of these already by unicron · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yes, but it's outdated as all hell and is in DESPERATE need of an upgrade.

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    2. Re:I've got one of these already by WIAKywbfatw · · Score: 3, Funny

      Ah, well, you've obviously only got the basic, economy model. I'd suggest that you ask for the deluxe, super-duper version but it's obviously a bit late for that - I don't think that retrogrades are available (yet). :=)

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    3. Re:I've got one of these already by missing000 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I had another take on this...

      I have broadband and ssh.
      Leave the server at home. There is a thing called "the internet" that does this well already.

    4. Re:I've got one of these already by jmt9581 · · Score: 1

      You keep your brain in your pocket? Or is it your handbag? :)

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    5. Re:I've got one of these already by whiteranger99x · · Score: 1

      It's tightly integrated, I carry it around with me all the time, I never lose it and it's never crashed yet. It doesn't cost a thing and it comes as standard.

      It's called a "brain".


      You must not have Alzheimer's Disease or have had a severe head injury ;)

      Oh Umm...what was I talking about?

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    6. Re:I've got one of these already by Guppy06 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Hah! It takes at least 18 years to get one running up to speed, and it's only "free" if you don't include the tens of thousands of dollars spent on tuition.

    7. Re:I've got one of these already by Superfreaker · · Score: 1

      Agreed! You spend all that time getting the bugs worked out, then college just goes in and formats the drive. I've seen state schools go as par as removing the partitions and corrupting the boot sector.

      Try and get that thing up and running again!

    8. Re:I've got one of these already by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Dr. Evil: There is a thing called "the internet". We can connect to it using "lasers" attached to sharks' heads.

      Scott: But why don't you just put the stuff in your pocket?

    9. Re:I've got one of these already by whiteranger99x · · Score: 1

      Hah! It takes at least 18 years to get one running up to speed, and it's only "free" if you don't include the tens of thousands of dollars spent on tuition.

      You got a point there, now if you introduce alcohol, pot, or (insert narcotic of choice here) to the system, you now have to deal with bad and corrupted sectors on the storage device, resulting in decreased performance and storage :P

      On the other hand, it's really no different than some Western Digital HDs that I've had before LOL

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    10. Re:I've got one of these already by Enonu · · Score: 1, Funny

      It's these liberal, scum maxist commie producing, so-called "higher educational institutions" that are ruining kids these days. Think I'd ever send a kid to Harvard, to be trained to become another big-govt. moron monkey who wants to take away our God given right to the money we've earned? Forgeeet aboouuuuuut it.

      God I love conservative talk radio. It's 10X better than Stern for shock-value entertainment. BTW, the above is impersonation if it wasn't obvious :)

    11. Re:I've got one of these already by Wyatt+Earp · · Score: 1

      Booze?
      Weed?
      Drugs?

      I've got those beat.

      Cranial Radiation at age 7 and 9, focused right for the center.

      I can remeber things for about 10 minutes, then I forget them, and then remeber tham about 4-6 weeks later.

      I remeber phone calls from 1992 but I couldn't tell you what I ate for lunch 5 hours ago.

      Reminds me of that 14.4 GB IBM Deathstar I had in a G3 a few years ago.

    12. Re:I've got one of these already by DataPath · · Score: 1

      Last I checked, there wasn't a "brain" port of Apache, nor do they come equipped with wifi or bluetooth (yet).

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    13. Re:I've got one of these already by whiteranger99x · · Score: 1

      Wow, thats gotta really suck to deal with, and to think I was only being facetious. My bad, man *shrugs*

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    14. Re:I've got one of these already by kurosawdust · · Score: 1

      Let's not forget the fact that it only has a 67% uptime rate.

    15. Re:I've got one of these already by skaffen42 · · Score: 4, Funny

      I never lose it and it's never crashed yet.

      You obviously don't drink much tequila, do you?

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    16. Re:I've got one of these already by NanoGator · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "I have broadband and ssh.
      Leave the server at home. There is a thing called "the internet" that does this well already. "

      And for the handful of us that like graphics, we have Intel's product..

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    17. Re:I've got one of these already by SN74S181 · · Score: 1

      The thing is, except for the colorful name-calling aspects of your parody, a lot of the core message rings true.

      People can and do learn, outside an expensive credential-bound 'Higher Educational Institution' where the politically correct get tenure and any dissent from the 'correct line' is mocked and discredited. All you have to do is go to the library and there are many books and other resources to learn from.

      I personally think Rush Limbaugh is banal and panders to a lowest-common-denominator far too much. He harps on a few chosen issues to keep his ratings up. But the energy that he taps from regular people in his audience is legitimate. People feel disenfranchised from what the 'intellectual elite' insist is 'the way' things ought to be.

      Of course, it's much easier for pundits of the Left and Right to engage in little tackling matches with parodies of their opponents than to actually propose or implement constructive change.

    18. Re:I've got one of these already by exp(pi*sqrt(163)) · · Score: 1

      No need to show off! Some of us will have to buy one of these new devices instead.

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    19. Re:I've got one of these already by Wyatt+Earp · · Score: 1

      It's cool.

      I'm dealin' with it, hell I can remeber my /. login so it's all good :)

    20. Re:I've got one of these already by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I want to trade mine in due to it's incompatibility with beer.

    21. Re:I've got one of these already by Fulcrum+of+Evil · · Score: 1

      Ah, well, you've obviously only got the basic, economy model. I'd suggest that you ask for the deluxe, super-duper version but it's obviously a bit late for that - I don't think that retrogrades are available

      They are available, but you lose all your data. Hardly worth it if you can't remember all the stupid things you did in college.

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    22. Re:I've got one of these already by weston · · Score: 1

      it's only "free" if you don't include the tens of thousands of dollars spent on tuition.

      You're confusing a brain with a diploma. It's understandable, though... lots of people make the same mistake.

      Including most of my prospective employers....

    23. Re:I've got one of these already by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Standard? You've not been outside lately, have you...

    24. Re:I've got one of these already by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually I've been working on a solution to that if you just some lets call them "uptime enhanchers *cough*speed*cough* you can make that uptime approach damn near 100%

    25. Re:I've got one of these already by 1u3hr · · Score: 1
      So do I. Mine are called "floppy disks". I can carry around several books worth of information on one, and to access it almost every PC has a drive (a lot more than have Bluetooth). Cost: about 50c

      Back in IBM XT days I had a "floppy" with Nortion Commander, Wodstar and a bunch other text files. Flew to Bangkok, stuck the disk in, and could work immediately.

      For Mac users, back in about 1980 I had a Mac system disk, with MacWrite, MAcPaint and a bunch of other stuff.

      No worries about driveby "Wardrivers" hacking my floppy.

    26. Re:I've got one of these already by Phroggy · · Score: 1

      And for the handful of us that like graphics, we have Intel's product..

      Well, you can tunnel X11 over SSH, but yeah, it's not fast. Handy in a pinch though.

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    27. Re:I've got one of these already by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, actually, in my experience it crashes about once in 12-24 hours and takes from 4 to 8 hours to reboot. Sucks.

    28. Re:I've got one of these already by missing000 · · Score: 1

      And for the handful of us that like graphics, we have Intel's product..

      Nope. I tunnel port 80 over ssh at home all the time. I don't like my neighborhood watching my web browsing when I use 802.11.

      SHH does more than Intel's poor little handheld could ever hope to.

  4. When do clinical trials start? by mindpixel · · Score: 1, Funny

    Next step: Implantation.

  5. Taken two ways... by Esion+Modnar · · Score: 0, Offtopic
    The Handheld Killer...

    1) Killer of the Handheld, or... 2) The Killer which IS handheld.

    Hmmm...

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    1. Re:Taken two ways... by red_dragon · · Score: 4, Funny

      3) Killer of that which is held in the hand.

      As a male, I find this interpretation somewhat frightening.

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    2. Re:Taken two ways... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can't kill handheld, they died before they born AFAIK. You can't do anything with those things.

    3. Re:Taken two ways... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How the fuck is this offtopic?

      Fucktards.

  6. Imagine a beowulf cluster of THESE..... by whiteranger99x · · Score: 2, Funny

    Ok that was bad, but how secure are these things? I mean I dont want anyone to be able to use a sniffer to find my MP3's and porn.....errr I mean my school work and documents :P

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  7. You know your a nerd when.. by bombkit · · Score: 0, Redundant

    You'v got a beowulf of servers in your pocket. :)

    1. Re:You know your a nerd when.. by mosschops · · Score: 1

      ... and I thought you were just pleased to see me. ;-)

    2. Re:You know your a nerd when.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you know you're in luck when ur new lady friend says >

      is that a beowulf cluster in your pocket or are you just pleased to see me ?

    3. Re:You know your a nerd when.. by bombkit · · Score: 1

      Redundant??? Why? Come on guys, you all know SOMEONE was going to say it :)

    4. Re:You know your a nerd when.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In Soviet Russia, EVERYONE says it, or else.

  8. Old News by mclove · · Score: 5, Informative

    This already exists, more or less, in the form of the Toshiba HopBit. And I think that Toshiba's smarter than Intel in positioning their personal server as an accessory for PDA's rather than as a replacement for them. A box with no screen doesn't have very much sex appeal, and people like to be able to access information on the go, so people will probably buy these things mostly to serve as video storage for their Tungsten T's and iPaqs.

    1. Re:Old News by the_2nd_coming · · Score: 1

      tungston c has wifi so that will work as well.

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  9. Hmmm... by fireman+sam · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Can someone explain how a "wireless harddrive" that you need a computer to access will replace PDAs? I mean, you can't sit on the train and organize your day with it?

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    1. Re:Hmmm... by sydb · · Score: 1

      Correct, the "handheld killer" bit is just so much rubbish. Makes me doubt the content of the rest of the site.

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    2. Re:Hmmm... by Elwood+P+Dowd · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Everyone is missing the point. You keep your wireless harddrive in your backpack/pocket/purse/briefcase/whatever. Now your handheld has access to 80GB storage at all times, at no size/weight/cost. Your phone, handheld, and computer can all use the same harddrive, so they could all use the same data.

      You're right, it's not a handheld killer. It will make killer handhelds.

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    3. Re:Hmmm... by zorander · · Score: 1

      This device will really depend on ubiquitous terminals that can use it...at airports, on traincars, etc. Terminals set up with the bare minimum that let you use your files everywhere.

      Brian

    4. Re:Hmmm... by Trogre · · Score: 1

      Now your handheld has access to 80GB storage at all times, at no size/weight/cost.

      As does the hacker sitting two seats in front of you.

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    5. Re:Hmmm... by druzicka · · Score: 1

      Everyone is missing the point. You keep your wireless harddrive in your backpack/pocket/purse/briefcase/whatever.

      Not sure that you're getting the point either. Why not just stick a touchscreen on it, call it a PDA with massive storage capabilities, and not have to screw with dragging your PDA along all the time to veiw data on your "personal server".

      PDA killer, my ass. More likely, massive storage will become the next built-in PDA feature.

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    6. Re:Hmmm... by kEnder242 · · Score: 1

      Thats probably the idea, keep what you dont need fast access to away from your ultralight handheld.

      I wonder how the power usage is factored into this, on my laptop using 802.11 nearly cuts the life in half, on the other hand if you dont have a spinning HD to worry about...
      Maybe put a small firewire port in there and you could extend the life some more when you really need it.

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    7. Re:Hmmm... by the_2nd_coming · · Score: 1

      owch!!! that would get hot!!!

      in 10 yeas they will do a studdy to find out that the heat eminated from these causes men to be sterile.

      besides this would only be worth while if it was a SSD. less power to search the drive and keep data.

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    8. Re:Hmmm... by durand · · Score: 3, Insightful
      Everyone is missing the point. You keep your .......
      What is the point? Price Point

      The most expensive, in terms of dollars and space, parts, outside of the CPU, on PDAs are the physical I/O ports and devices. Take them away and this gadget costs you and I less than US$100.- retail.

      Of course, just cause the ports and touchscreen are not added on today does not mean that the internals do not support them. :)

    9. Re:Hmmm... by torpor · · Score: 1

      I tend to think it is a 'handheld' killer in the sense that modern handhelds are monolithic in design - all in one.

      This device breaks the rules requiring such a design sense, particularly if it uses smart software in the controller to make connection to other devices seamless and painless to the user.

      Solve all the problems of negotiation and networking at the *SERVER* level (i.e. the disk), and suddenly the world opens up if you take out the disk and put in ... say ... CPU's (or DSP's).

      From that point on, how much computing power you've got available depends on how much everyone else on the train has decided to commit to the public 'processing power' pool ... or, hey, far out there ... how much DSP power you've got to render your concert with depends on just how much your fans have given you ... and from the flipside, if it was a good gig you can just stream the edits of it straight to the "Personal Servers" of whoever was there, just for posterity (and price of admission).

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    10. Re:Hmmm... by skillet-thief · · Score: 1
      You keep your wireless harddrive in your backpack/pocket/purse/briefcase/whatever. Now your handheld has access to 80GB storage at all times, at no size/weight/cost. Your phone, handheld, and computer can all use the same harddrive, so they could all use the same data.

      That's great and all, but just to play the Dev's advocate here, if the personal server is a super add-on wifi harddrive, doesn't that mean that instead of carrying just a PDA around, I now have to have two little boxes, that both need batteries, etc.?

      Thence defeating the whole idea of the PDA... (maybe that's what they meant by "killer")

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  10. Not a "handheld killer" by larryleung · · Score: 5, Informative

    This is typical /. misreading of the article. It's designed as a server... something that provides background services to the user.

    Now combined with various IO devices it may match the functionality of a handheld. Here is the ubicomp 2002 paper about it.

    1. Re:Not a "handheld killer" by thedude13 · · Score: 1

      the article's actual title is :
      "Personal Server: Has Intel Built the Handheld Killer?"
      and the first sentence reads:
      Intel is developing wireless, pocket-sized personal server that may replace laptops and PDAs altogether.
      so if it truly was designed as a server it's baard.com that is misreporting and not /. misreading. as far as replacing laptops or pdas, i say a no-go because for it to work you have to have access to a computer, which i don't typically in meetings or on airplanes. it would be a nice addition to a laptop as something i can use to easily sync my work, laptop, and desktop computers but i dont know if it will be worth the cost, which i didn't see mention of my 2 cents...

    2. Re:Not a "handheld killer" by platypus · · Score: 4, Informative

      Take a step back and look closely at the submitters name and the reference website's name.

      I doubt he would misread his own article.

    3. Re:Not a "handheld killer" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How on earth is Awireless harddrive a handheld killer ? are usb hard drives handheld killers too ???
      that doesnt make any sence

    4. Re:Not a "handheld killer" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe he's like CmdrTaco

    5. Re:Not a "handheld killer" by Penguinoflight · · Score: 1

      No, he didn't misread it, Slashdot did, this is a dumb article, it's old news (IBM did it 6 months ago), and it had a poorly written submission. This gets posted, but the Virginia Spammer felony charge law didn't?? (yeah, I submitted that, but I just wanted to see the article posted, if someone else writes it better, go ahead, reject mine.)

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    6. Re:Not a "handheld killer" by ocelotbob · · Score: 1
      The Virginia spam law was posted about a week ago.

      As far as this tech goes, it's still pretty damn fascinating, even if the submission is a bit lacking. It's a portable wireless hard drive, which is exactly the direction PDAs should take. Put one of these in your pocket, and have a very small dedicated device to play music, or play videos, or do your word processing. Once you get home, you pop it into your computer and bam, you've got the same info.

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    7. Re:Not a "handheld killer" by los+furtive · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Once you get home, you pop it into your computer and bam, you've got the same info.

      With the wifi you wouldn't even need to pop it into your computer. Leave it in your bag/briefcase, like you do at work, and it'll be accessible through your home network.

      People still have a hard time thinking about the possibilities of this technology. Think about how easily data that could be swapped while sitting on a bus, or even stuck in traffic? What about having all your mp3s available to play off your wifi enable car stereo, or even home stereo. All of these are beautiful, but the nicest part is that you never have to interact with it, no cables, no synchronizing (the biggest dissadvantage of current PDAs), just access it like as a networked drive from whatever computer you happen to be around.

      It's only a matter of time.

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    8. Re:Not a "handheld killer" by ocelotbob · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Exactly. Many of the people posting here just don't get it. This is about making things easier in the long run. No need to really worry about syncing your data; it's already been handled. Setup your mail program to export your iCal/vCal data every few minutes, and you've got your schedule everywhere. You don't have to remember to do it, because it's already been done. The only reason I said "stick it into your computer" is because of the charging issue. Probably a better phrasing would be stick it onto the charging cradle or the like. But now we're just picking nits here.

      About the only gripe I have about the device is that it only uses 802.11b. Intel needs to step up to the plate and provide a device with 802.11a and g functionality as well; provide faster tranfer speeds so that one can stream higher quality media to their devices 11Mbps is a bit constraining when you're transferring media, but the 50Mbps+ a and g offer are better, or, like I feel will be the next thing in wireless, offer a way to use both a and g at the same time to get 100Mbps+ speeds out of wireless devices. Then one can really start to think about this device as a pervasive media server.

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    9. Re:Not a "handheld killer" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Never underestimate the power of stup^H^H^H^HSlashdot.

    10. Re:Not a "handheld killer" by los+furtive · · Score: 1

      Ahhh, I didn't think about the charging aspect. Good point.

      Personally, I'd be willing to give up a bit of size/weight if I knew the device would stay up and running for a week at a time. I believe the article mentioned 4 hours of streaming with it. That's still pretty good if you just want to 'session' the device, but means having to charge more than once a day to do any 'always on' stuff. The good news is that, unlike my old Palm III, it is hard drive based and when the batteries drain you don't need to worry about losing info.

      As for the wifi standards, I'm guessing that since 802.11g is not final yet they are holding off on that one...and it could also be a battery drain issue too. BTW, your idea of (a) + (g) is pretty damn cool. Kudos!

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    11. Re:Not a "handheld killer" by ocelotbob · · Score: 1
      Same here. 4 hours is just not enough time. 8-12 hours would be the minimum to get people thinking about using this device. It's definitely possible to do so and still keep a low power device. Subnotebooks can get up to 17, and they've got an LCD and more powerful processor in them. Weight's not that much of an issue, because it's going in your pocket and just sitting there; a one pound device would be about the limit, but 1 pound is more than enough to put in a decent power system.

      The big thing about wireless, that you mentioned, is the tradeoff between power usage and bandwidth. I'm guessing that this device would have components that automatically adjust the output power of the antenna based on signal strength, so that if you're a couple feet away, it doesn't broadcast at full strength, thus conserving power. After all, why waste batteries with your high-powered antenna if you just need the bare minimum?

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    12. Re:Not a "handheld killer" by torpor · · Score: 1

      Ummm... think about this a little more, and you might see that the use of the term 'handheld killer' is appropriate.

      All other handhelds on the market today have the same limitations: RAM size, battery life, disk space.

      This box eliminates that problem, and in fact it propels things *far* into the future, past this point. Should this product become ubiquitous, then this is the point:

      - Handhelds need only be screen, battery, WiFi.

      What OS you use as an 'interface' becomes irrelevant. Hell, bundle an embedded JAVA or Flash player in the screen controller, and all those fears which Microsoft had about becoming irrelevant in the face of the browser come to fruition... albeit, on an entirely new computing platform where the *communication protocols* set the standard, and all else (CPU type, speed, casemod) becomes irrelevant.

      The point is, this "server" really *IS* personal computing, to the next level.

      Take out the disk, and throw in some CPU's ... or (*shudder*) some DSP's, add some smart code at the WiFi/Bluetooth layer, and you've got an amazing new computing system.

      Let's look at some other applications for this product, shall we? Say these prototypes from Intel become more popular, and hit the shelves ...

      So, you're at a concert and you're really enjoying it. You swipe your credit card through the reader at the door on the way out, and by the time you've walked to your car in the parking lot, you've got the live concert mix in your pocket.

      From my perspective (I work for Access), I can see a hell of a lot of good uses for this prototype for Intel.

      I hope it hits.

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    13. Re:Not a "handheld killer" by kalidasa · · Score: 1

      I'm on the train. I want to read a book. How do I do that with this box? Why, I need a PDA to do that.

      I'm on the plane. I want to get some work done. 802.11x stuff is banned from use on the plane. What does this do for me?

      I'm visiting a client's place of business. I want to pull up some data from my personal server. But they don't want me using any of their boxes because they're afraid I'll root out some company proprietary data while I'm on there. What does this do for me?

      One cannot use a device with no I/O without other I/O devices around. This is basically just a souped up microdrive that I don't have to attach to anything.

    14. Re:Not a "handheld killer" by ocelotbob · · Score: 1
      You're missing the point here. This is going to supplement the handheld market, make it easier to actually do things with it. You don't have to worry about synchronizing your data, because all your data's already in a centralized location. You've still got your PDA, only now, you've got a lot more storage space.

      Additionally, I'd imagine that there are going to be many public places which have walk-up terminals where you can access your data if you need to check something and you're away from any other sort of device. Right now, hotels and the like offer some pretty nice setups as far as data ports go and free wireless go. I'd imagine that places like that will offer similar services for wireless personal servers.

      You're on your plane, and chances are by the time these devices are commonplace, the airline you're flying on, in conjunction with the plane maker will have gotten 802.11 authorized for use. Boeing has already done so, so it's only a matter of time before others in the flight industry follow suit. Even if the plane maker doesn't do so, I'd imagine that such devices will have more traditional communications means, such as USB or Firewire, to facilitate higher speed transfers, or transfers with computers without wireless hookups.

      As far as your security conscious client goes, once again, I never said you'd just be carrying around your portable drive. The drive's just a way to make moving data between devices a lot simpler, so that one doesn't need to swap CF or SmartMedia cards back and forth between devices. You just have one device that handles all those needs for you.

      While this is "just" a wireless microdrive, a wireless microdrive is something that is extremely useful for the reasons I outlined in the previous post, and above. Yes, it's another box you have to carry around, but at the same time, it means that you have less worries about other devices running out of storage space.

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    15. Re:Not a "handheld killer" by DarkRabbit · · Score: 1

      This post really needs to be modded up.

    16. Re:Not a "handheld killer" by HiThere · · Score: 1

      It could be... this could be the start of a component based pc tied together with a wifi net. You would need a screen, that could be designed to fit over a shirt cuff, a mouse (fingertip mounted), etc. Think bluetooth re-visited.

      Perhaps the screen could be a heads-up display on glasses, but I think a cuff might well be better in several ways... for one, people wouldn't be as ready to use it while driving.

      This *kind* of thing has been done several times, in non-mass market packaging. But things may now have gotten to the point where it's feasible to mass market it. (Prices getting down low enough is a big part of this.) The next step will be an extension of the Palm-based business card exchange that is designed for teenagers. Perhaps a local wifi based music exchange program. The vendors could sign a music group to produce songs for free distribution, and some software to allow bands to record their own (a new kind of ad that's FREE). (If some other music also ended up being shared ... "That's not what we meant it for!") I would hope that it would eventually expand into a general p2p network, with some signed files, some open files, and some encrypted files. There could even be DRM audio files, but the DRM module would need to include it's own audio decoding component so that the clear version never hit the ether in digital, but only in a "watermarked" analog signal. (I have no objections to a DRM component...merely when they want to apply it to my whole system. I do, however, believe that it would end up being as popular with the end-users as dongles are [i.e., roundly despised].)

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    17. Re:Not a "handheld killer" by evilviper · · Score: 1
      With the wifi you wouldn't even need to pop it into your computer. Leave it in your bag/briefcase, like you do at work, and it'll be accessible through your home network.

      Yea! Never take it out of your bag with our new thermo-nuclear batteries! Get yours today (buy one, get cancer free)!
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    18. Re:Not a "handheld killer" by kalidasa · · Score: 1

      You've still got your PDA, only now, you've got a lot more storage space.

      Wouldn't it make more sense to just integrate this into the PDA? In other words, have a single box that's PDA/Video Viewer/Music Listener/Cell Phone/Personal Server? With a wireless headset and a PDA-like front face?

      Yeah, it's not a bad idea, but I'm still not sure this is (as the article suggests, rather than as you suggest) a PDA-killer.

    19. Re:Not a "handheld killer" by ocelotbob · · Score: 1

      I think this is a matter of opinion here, as to what'll be the best solution to the problem. I seem to lean toward what intel's doing and building a device that just does drive space and communications with the outside world, and another device that just does display. Yeah, the stylus/tablet interface is good now, and the small box format of the drive lends itself to being integrated with the tablet, but you're not always going to be using a PDA as your primary interface. The way I see it, head mounted displays with small head-mounted LCDs are going to take over as the primary interface as soon as someone can figure out the aesthetic issues it involves. When such a move happens, a PDA display only becomes redundant and an unneeded source of failure.

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  11. Intel is too late... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Intel is too late. People have been serving themselves with their hands in their pockets for AGES!

  12. Probably won't replace handhelds... by juhaz · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I see this more like addition, or update (if it's done right, if it's NOT done right I see it as paperweight), than replacement.

    Sure, it would come handy to automatically have your portable computing device wirelessly "hijack" vastly superior input and output capabilities of bigger computer whenever you're in position to use one, but I'm not convinced web server is good enough for GUI of such device.

    And it would be neat for it to still have screen and input device of its own (they would be turned off for power saving most of the time), for use where there just are no desktop systems for borrowing, in such situation, this system is 100% useless.

    1. Re:Probably won't replace handhelds... by Rysc · · Score: 1

      but I'm not convinced web server is good enough for GUI of such device.

      Agreed. I'd prefer a simple FTP NFS or Samba server, or something along those lines. Maybe just SSH + a SFTP client with a pretty file-manager-like GUI whenever I want to access it. The device-side interface should merely be a protocal.

      The only real advantage of the web server idea is that you wont be limited to what platforms have a client as all platforms pretty much have a client already.

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  13. Do you feel luck punk?...Go ahead...make my PDA by Charcharodon · · Score: 2, Funny

    I already have a handheld killer, it's called a Glock.

    1. Re:Do you feel luck punk?...Go ahead...make my PDA by Charcharodon · · Score: 1

      Do you kiss your mother with that mouth?

  14. 'bout time by PaddyM · · Score: 1, Interesting

    But I'll believe it when I can buy it. And it works on linux out of the box.

    1. Re:'bout time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Who gives an f*** what it runs - as long as it works. Jesus Christ, do you think this "only if it runs Linux" whine gives you guys some kind of entry pass to the techno-cool club? What a bunch of losers. I don't give a damn if my server runs on chipmunks + dex as long as it runs.

    2. Re:'bout time by NanoGator · · Score: 1

      "But I'll believe it when I can buy it. And it works on linux out of the box."

      Suddenly the appeal of Windows comes sharply into focus.

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    3. Re:'bout time by mabinogi · · Score: 1

      So you won't believe it exists if it doesn't run linux??

      you must live in a interesting world...where 95% of the world's computer using population don't actually have a computer....

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  15. Mirror by jeroenvw · · Score: 1
    1. Re:Mirror by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How the fuck is this trolling.

      Fucktards.

    2. Re:Mirror by Adam9 · · Score: 1

      Holy shit. It went from +4 Informative to +1 Troll. I saw the page was lagging to hell and back so I was nice and mirrored it. Sheesh.

    3. Re:Mirror by Charlton+Heston · · Score: 2, Funny

      Obviously someone is too drunk to select the right moderation option from a fairly small list.

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  16. is replace a misnomer? by whiteranger99x · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Intel is developing wireless, pocket-sized personal server that may replace laptops and PDAs altogether.

    The personal server mounts on any PC that can recognize wireless devices: "Any computer becomes your computer," said Want.


    Ok, I'm a little confused, are they saying that this will replace laptops and PDAs altogether or are they saying that this is merely a more flexible means of storage that can be accessed from other PCs or PDAs?

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    1. Re:is replace a misnomer? by sydb · · Score: 1, Redundant

      They're saying both. Of course, one of them can't be right. This is not a replacement for laptops and PDAs.

      How can I use a personal server on the train or the bus, or sitting in a park, or lying in bed, or at a meeting, or in a cafe, or...

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    2. Re:is replace a misnomer? by whiteranger99x · · Score: 1

      They're saying both. Of course, one of them can't be right. This is not a replacement for laptops and PDAs.

      How can I use a personal server on the train or the bus, or sitting in a park, or lying in bed, or at a meeting, or in a cafe, or...


      Yeah, I figured as much actually.

      It just struck me as curious how one would actually interface with these servers directly without said PDAs, Laptops, or PCs...oh well.

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    3. Re:is replace a misnomer? by sydb · · Score: 1

      It just struck me as curious how one would actually interface with these servers directly without said PDAs, Laptops, or PCs...oh well.

      Exactly, you can't.

      This is just a hard disk on a radio link. Why they're making the claims they are, I don't know.

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    4. Re:is replace a misnomer? by Dylan+Zimmerman · · Score: 1

      They could be designing this to be some sort of a headless computer. Then, you use either a PDA sized, laptop sized, or desktop sized terminal to access its processing power and storage. This could be quite cool if done right.

    5. Re:is replace a misnomer? by glenebob · · Score: 1

      > How can I use a personal server on the train or the bus...

      Same way as anywhere else: with whatever interface device is at hand. Likely a PDA-shaped thing on the bus, or maybe a lap-top-shaped thing. It depends on how you use the interface and how much you want to carry, I guess. Maybe you'll even borrow a device from the guy next to you.

    6. Re:is replace a misnomer? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How can I use a personal server on the train or the bus, or sitting in a park, or lying in bed, or at a meeting, or in a cafe, or..

      worry not! the intel server fairies will magically make a terminal appear in front of you, wherever you are!

      reminds me of the centrino ads, where free wireless is ubiquitous, unless you read the really tiny fine print that says free wireless access points are very limited.

    7. Re:is replace a misnomer? by xigxag · · Score: 1

      I think they mean that it could curently replace certain functionality of laptops and PDAs. For example those people who basically use a laptop or PDA primarily to transport data back and forth between their home and office desktops. Also, that further in the future, if terminals for this baby become ubiquitous, that many people would choose to just carry around their data on this device and then use the built-in terminals on the train/bus/plane/Starbucks etc. instead of lugging around their own screen and keyboard or playing hunt and peck with a stylus. I'm not sure if I agree (too insecure) but it's an interesting idea.

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    8. Re:is replace a misnomer? by sydb · · Score: 1

      Yes that's right, the bus company is going to install PDA's so I can use them with my personal server, and they're not going to get vandalised, and they'll always work.

      And the guy next to me won't be busy using his, oh no.

      And the park, you missed that. I take it trees will come with compatible interfaces.

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    9. Re:is replace a misnomer? by DataPath · · Score: 1

      I think with personal wireless storage, the basic concept of laptops and handheld devices might change.

      You have your personal server, and then you buy a storage-less computing device to go with it, or something like that. That's the direction I think the article writer was going with this.

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    10. Re:is replace a misnomer? by glenebob · · Score: 1

      Sorry... I forgot to mention that YOU might HAVE YOUR VERY OWN PDA shaped thing. Or laptop shaped thing. Or whatever turns your crank.

      And the guy next to you probably isn't using his 100% of the time, so MAYBE you can use it. Maybe he's an asshole and he won't let you. Who knows?

      And no the trees don't have compatible interfaces, but they might have compatible uplink devices, and so might the bus, so you can save battery life while accessing the Internet in those areas.

      I offered examples. I'm sure you can come up with others.

    11. Re:is replace a misnomer? by zbuffered · · Score: 3, Interesting

      This is just a hard disk on a radio link

      no no no, this is a server on a radio (wireless) link. It won't replace your PDA, but rather change future PDAs, which will be designed with this in mind. If you don't have to worry about storing data in your PDA, but only viewing and manipulating data, it changes the makeup of your PDA. You might even have your "PDA" just be a dumb terminal with the 'personal server' doing the actual work.

      Also they talk about integrating cellphones in it, so that you can have a bluetooth earpiece and your "phone" would be in your backpack or wherever. Although I guess you'd still need your "pda" (dumb terminal or whatever) to dial the number, or make better voice recognition software so that you could dial without buttons. Or put buttons on the server or...

      I'm excited about this.

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    12. Re:is replace a misnomer? by NanoGator · · Score: 1

      "Ok, I'm a little confused, are they saying that this will replace laptops and PDAs altogether or are they saying that this is merely a more flexible means of storage that can be accessed from other PCs or PDAs?"

      It means that PDA's/Laptops/Etc become terminals that react based on this personal server of yours. One real obvious use of this product would be no more synching. Your data is in one big central place.

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    13. Re:is replace a misnomer? by fredklein · · Score: 1

      YOU might HAVE YOUR VERY OWN PDA shaped thing. Or laptop shaped thing.

      Then this obviously isn't going to "replace PDAs and Laptops", is it???

      And why have seperate storage? Just build it into the "PDA shaped thing. Or laptop shaped thing."

    14. Re:is replace a misnomer? by glenebob · · Score: 1

      The /. headline went ape shit as usual. This thing isn't intended to replace a PDA, and I wasn't trying to say it will either. Rather, a combination of this thing and other devices could replace the PDA.

      The whole point is that you thin down the PDA-shaped thingy and the laptop-shaped thingy and have them use the server device for storage, so you can access your data with the best interface available at the time. You always carry your data around (or usually), and what interface device you bring depends on where you're going, with the option of using your buddy's desktop computer if you like.

    15. Re:is replace a misnomer? by HiThere · · Score: 1

      But it will change the design so much that they won't be palmtops anymore. They'll still be Portable Data Accessories, or whatever PDA stands for, but they'll be to current PDAs what component stereo was to the old monolithic stereo systems. Bluetooth will let the screen be a separate module (my guess is you'll wear it on your cuff). Your fingertip will be your mouse, though you might wear something rather like a guitar pick to put a finer point on things. Etc. But that will be just *ONE* configuration. It's a component system. Other people will come out with heads-up glasses displays, with an index finger ring (wear it on the last joint of your index finger...the "jewel" is the point of the cursor, and it's position is detected by loran from the glasses). And other designs will also be possible, as long as they use the "standard wifi bus" (bluetooth?) you'll be able to match & mix.

      And in three more years they'll be as powerful as any modern desktop.

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  17. Wardriving in the subway! by exhilaration · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Let's see how long it takes our enterprising youngsters to crack the security on these things! If they become ubiquitous, then the average user will use them to transport data of great value; after all, what better place for ALL your e-mail, and ALL your documents that in your pocket? Imagine being able to break into one of those things from a laptop - or perhaps another unit reprogrammed to attach to all nearby units and grab anything available.

    Sounds like fun!!!!!

    1. Re:Wardriving in the subway! by nucal · · Score: 1

      Hopefully it will have some sort of key or "off" switch ...

    2. Re:Wardriving in the subway! by AndroidCat · · Score: 1
      Subway? Now you can sit in a sidewalk cafe slipping a latte while the data walks past -- none of that tedious driving around.

      As a security feature they should make a sound when being accessed on-the-go. The *SLOORP* as you walk past would be a give-away.

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    3. Re:Wardriving in the subway! by DataPath · · Score: 1

      Well, since presumably the owner would have physical access to the device at all times, maybe a hardware switch to disable wireless access? It would do wonders for battery life, too.

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    4. Re:Wardriving in the subway! by zbuffered · · Score: 1

      You do realize that this is going to run bluetooth, right? Granted others will be able to challenge the security, but if they have to stay within 30 feet at all times, don'tcha think the owner might get suspicious? :)

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    5. Re:Wardriving in the subway! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If BlueTooth is operating at a speed of 700kbps, and a targetted victim moves at 1 foot per second, then you have an entire minute to copy as much as you can get... by my calculations, this is practically an MP3.

      Add to this the ability to walk behind someone for at least, say, ten minutes without them becoming suspicious, and you've just copied an entire album off a complete stranger walking past, and they'll likely never know it.

      Multiply this by the number of people walking around, and you can get your choice of music from a few hours at the park.

      I hope the RIAA puts a stop to this before Intel causes society to crumble under the weight of freely available music.

    6. Re:Wardriving in the subway! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Even better ... beat up the nerds that have these and just take their precious geeky server, that'll learn 'em.

    7. Re:Wardriving in the subway! by zbuffered · · Score: 1

      and a targetted victim moves at 1 foot per second

      hahaha. By my calculations, that's a step every 3 seconds. What are you, a mime? :)

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  18. and this replaces a PDA.... how? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I fail to see how this replaces the functionality of my Zaurus. Sure, its a cool toy which has plenty of uses in its own right. But how am I going to be able to play kbill on the bus with this? I use my pda for far more than document storage. Its basically the next generation of those USB storage dongles isnt it?

    1. Re:and this replaces a PDA.... how? by Troll_in_Captivity · · Score: 0

      " I fail to see how this replaces the functionality of my Zaurus..."
      Yes!! You FAIL IT!!!

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    2. Re:and this replaces a PDA.... how? by KPU · · Score: 1

      Not to mention you can get a large SD memory card, CF wireless, and run a server on it, replacing most of the functionality.

  19. more info... by mz001b · · Score: 5, Informative

    since the link is horribly /.'d already, this has a lot of detailed info: Intel persional server PDF

    1. Re:more info... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      # uptime
      8:29PM up 6 days, 16:03, 1 user, load averages: 0.00, 0.12, 0.33

      Current Time: Sunday, 04-May-2003 20:29:24 EDT
      Restart Time: Sunday, 04-May-2003 20:11:55 EDT
      Parent Server Generation: 2
      Server uptime: 17 minutes 29 seconds
      Total accesses: 23587 - Total Traffic: 575.1 MB
      CPU Usage: u15.2266 s14.2188 cu2.35938 cs.875 - 3.12% CPU load
      22.5 requests/sec - 0.5 MB/second - 25.0 kB/request
      117 requests currently being processed, 82 idle servers
      K__K_K_K__W_KW_KK__KKKK_KK_K_K_KWKK_K_K_K __KK_KKK_ K_KKKKWKKKK__K
      WK__K__KRK_____K_K_WKK_KK_RK__KK__ KK_KWK_K_KK_KK__ _K_K_WK___KKKK
      WK_KW__K_KK__K__KW_K_KKK__KKKK_KKR _KKK_K_W__KKKW_K __K____KK_KK_W .._..KKK_.K...K.

      only reason i had to restart was to bump max clients up higher to see what it would do. 150 to 300.

  20. That's it? by Skyshadow · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Gotta admit being a little disappointed by this.

    For those of you who didn't RTFA: This is essentially a little hard drive which rides around in your backpack (note: I don't carry a backpack all the time; do you?) and can connect, wirelessly, to any machine you access which recognizes wireless devices. Basically, as far as I can tell, this has the same net effect as having a home directory on an NFS server someplace and using it to save your settings as you move from machine to machine.

    Again: Bo-ring.

    When I saw "personal server, no IO", I was hoping this would be a manifestation of the keystone portion of my idea for a personal wireless network Your devices would all notice one another, and the width of functionality of any given device would be dependant on what you were carrying. If you we out taking pictures with your digicam and were carrying a server, the images would be transfered to the (presumably very expansive) drive in the server. If you had your cell phone, the images would be sent off to your home computer, as well.

    Repeat en masse. PDAs display and do I/O, headphones play music and the real work is taken care of automagically behind the scenes in some secure fashion. You'd effectively allow the elimination of multi-use devices which don't do any job very well by allowing your devices to play their strong points, and you could customize your loadout just in what you grab in the morning when you're loading your pockets.

    Anyhow, this ain't it, and that's disappointing -- somebody must have hit my verbosity flag today...

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    1. Re:That's it? by BlacKat · · Score: 1

      I must say I do like your vision... and I don't doubt that it will eventually come to pass, with devices like this being forerunners of the tech. :)

    2. Re:That's it? by Dylan+Zimmerman · · Score: 2, Informative

      Look up some information on MIThril. It's a cool wearable computing platform that seems to me to be similar to what you are talking about. It has removable components that all network to one another over a rather interesting bus and add all sorts of fun functionality.

    3. Re:That's it? by Galvatron · · Score: 1

      Yes, but MIThril is never going to be a commercial product. Unless you want to build it yourself, the progress MIThril is making is totally irrelevant to wether or not we'll be able to use them.

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      "The question of whether a computer can think is no more interesting than that of whether a submarine can swim" -EWD
    4. Re:That's it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What's disappointing is that you don't "get it". How this whiner got modded up is beyond me.

    5. Re:That's it? by PaddyM · · Score: 2, Insightful

      How is this not what you said? Just think of it as a webserver. "If you we out taking pictures with your digicam and were carrying a server, the images would be transfered to the (presumably very expansive) drive in the server." The only thing missing is "you hit the new 'upload' button on your camera". Or am I somehow overestimating the generality of the term 'wireless hard drive'? Is this not a wireless hard drive?

    6. Re:That's it? by Dylan+Zimmerman · · Score: 1

      That's a bit like saying that most prototypes never make it into production, so we can't look at them and learn possible features of actual devices.

      A lot of the technologies that it uses will probably become part of a commercial device. Really, the MIThril bus is ingenious. It reminds me of the display cable for the G4 Cube. Power and display data in one cable.

    7. Re:That's it? by nanoakron · · Score: 1

      As a semi-serious suggestion...why don't you pursue this idea of yours a bit more. Make a few mock-ups, take them to tech people or tech shows, get a name for yourself and some financial backing.

      How do you think the guys at Apple started? They had a good idea, worked at it, got some money behind them and then took off.

      Do it.

      -Nano.

    8. Re:That's it? by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1
      note: I don't carry a backpack all the time; do you?

      No. I don't carry a backpack any of the time. I don't carry a phone most of the time. I definately don't carry a computer. Why? Because I'm lazy. If I need to access my data I find an Internet terminal and use X / ssh to remotely use a computer containing it. The whole concept of moving matter around in order to have access to data seems inelegant somehow. Now, a signet ring containing a TCPA 1024-bit encryption chip that would interface with any computer near me and replace all passwords would be very useful.

      the real work is taken care of automagically behind the scenes

      No That's the kind of device I need...

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  21. Security by Centerius · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What's to stop someone from walking by with a laptop, and gaining access to all your data?

    1. Re:Security by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      RTFA troll.

    2. Re:Security by Centerius · · Score: 1

      Hrm. The only place I found where they mention security was here: First, security and privacy considerations are both complicated and simplified by the personal server model: by requiring interaction through untrusted displays and by utilizing the personal server as a trusted computation node, respectively.

    3. Re:Security by azzy · · Score: 1

      Me and a gun. You can hire me for $100 an hour.

    4. Re:Security by Flarelocke · · Score: 1

      What's to stop someone from walking by with a laptop, and gaining access to all your data?
      The off button.

    5. Re:Security by Mad+Bad+Rabbit · · Score: 1

      Moreover, if you access this via untrusted public terminals, how do you know they're not recording
      the keystrokes (i.e. whatever password you use to
      connect to the thing) ?!

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    6. Re:Security by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What kind of security features/ecryption would be implemented on this device?

      ROT-26. (But the service pack will support ROT-52!)

    7. Re:Security by joshsisk · · Score: 2, Insightful

      A password?

    8. Re:Security by Chelloveck · · Score: 1

      This has been my argument against the whole Bluetooth "It all just works together!" philosophy from the get-go. Yeah, it's great that I can access my stuff from any computer, but how do I keep other people from accessing my stuff as well? Your comment about a keystroke logger on a public terminal is another excellent security risk.

      And if these things can talk to each other, just think of the wonderful viruses that will be written. I'm walking through the airport and my Personal Server catches cyber-SARS from some random stranger's PS.

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      I give up on debugging. From now on, SIGSEGV is a feature.
  22. Possiblility of DDoS Attacks by whiteranger99x · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Even better, imagine if you could break into several of these things and then launch a series of DDoS attacks to nearby wireless devices and play hell with their communicationg >:)

    Let the fun begin :D ( Ack, I said too much :P )

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  23. had one for years by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Build and INVENTED by Steve Mann at the University of Toronto.

    It is a companion to the wearable computer. Built on a dimm pc and used a laptop hard drive to far surpass this things sotrage capacity, and used 802.11 PCMCIA card for wireless access.

    Oh and it ran linux too so you aren't stuck with some crap that they dish out.

  24. Biometric authentication? by exhilaration · · Score: 2, Interesting

    My brother just suggested that biometric authentication - probably fingerprinting - would be a useful feature on these devices. It might also be a good way to introduce biometric technology to the general public.

    1. Re:Biometric authentication? by fredklein · · Score: 1

      biometric authentication - probably fingerprinting - would be a useful feature on these devices.

      RTFA: "The device never leaves its user's pocket or handbag."

      Kinda hard to put your fingers on something packed away in your briefcase or backpack, huh.

    2. Re:Biometric authentication? by jovlinger · · Score: 1
  25. Re:Then how can you do by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    YOU FAIL IT!!!!!

  26. I already have one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can anyone tell me how this is different from having a webserver at home and accessing it over the internet?

    1. Re:I already have one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Can anyone tell me how this is different from having a webserver at home and accessing it over the internet?

      1) No Internet required.

  27. Security by Ghetto_D · · Score: 3, Interesting

    What kind of security features/ecryption would be implemented on this device? There have been enough flaws oncovered with WEP that this sounds like a bad idea to me. ANY computer with 802.11 access being able to connect to my portable hard drive? And how would I know since there isn't even a display?

  28. Hmmm I can do the same thing for cheaper... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's called a laptop hard drive in a usb pack. Use one all the time and it is much more secure than this thing plus requires no extra hardware and software that this needs.

    sheesh if you are too lazy to plug in your USB transportable pack (size of a 1/2 deck of cards) then you need to get a life.

  29. Needs work ... by jrl87 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Intel seems to have a good idea with this; however, I don't think it will cost effective to implement it. It will be like alternative fuel source cars - they will have to built a system to use it. Assuming they use WiFi to connect it to a computer so it "is your computer," that would mean that most computers could not connect to it without an purchase seems how a majority of the population don't even have their computers networked, much less wirelessly. Furthermore, it can't replace a PDA, atleast not yet, because you have to have a computer to use it; you can't use it while you are walking down the street. I think it would work great if they integrated some sort of display, even if it is crude, so you can use it like a PDA and still maintain the personal server aspect of it so it can be used to make any pc or laptop your own

  30. BluePod? by mbourgon · · Score: 1

    I do like the idea of integrating it into a cell phone, since we always carry it. But yeah, this would be nice. Someone's mentioned the rumored BluePod, which would have bluetooth access. So, on a train, you could listen to other people's tunes, see what other people have.

    But what I really see the potential for is a repository. I posted about this before, just can't find it offhand. You have a digital camera. It needs storage. So you have to keep track of that. MP3s in an MP3 player, have to keep track of that. Why not provide a central repository on your person? I get home, it syncs. If I added new data on my Palm, it's there and gets sync'd. I took new photos, they're there, sync them. Etc, etc.

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  31. Buzzword...ubiquitous by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Has ubiquitous taken over wi-fi or xml for the hottest buzzword?
    Can I put this word on my resume to abet my fortuity procuring a profitable position at a forune 500 company?

  32. Re:Hmmmm.... by EmbeddedJanitor · · Score: 1
    agree. April fools' day was last month.

    In the old days I would use an IDE drive in a caddy if I wanted to move my computing life around with me.

    Now I might use a USB drive etc.

    Saying this will replace the handheld PDA is stupid.There are very often not desktop PCs etc where you want to use the thing.

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    Engineering is the art of compromise.
  33. Linux support by paranoos · · Score: 1
    It's probably too early to really discuss the topic of GNU/Linux support on this device... but considering Intel's apparent position on the subject (you'll remember the new Centrino processors), I wonder what they'll do.

    I've always dreamt about having a box like this with WiFi or Bluetooth connecting several devices in a modular design for I/O... would be sweet to have it work as a music server, portable player, wearable PC, or even home automation. This modular and flexible design would complement a GNU/Linux system optimized for these tasks.

  34. Hmm... by fireboy1919 · · Score: 1

    The real question that comes to mind is why is this better than ssh'ing to my home box and pulling up stuff using realVNC?

    My home box has a heck of a lot more processing power and storage space than this thing.

    I always thought that the only advantage a PDA had over this approach was that you could access it without having to use another big machine...

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    1. Re:Hmm... by n3k5 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Can you stream a DVD quality video from your home box to any place in the world and get a nice picture over VNC? At a reasonable price for the bandwidth? No. This type of device should appeal to the same kind of people who like to have an iPod. Which are, I'm told, a lot.

      Of course it's inconvenient if you have to use 'another big machine' to access the device, but that's not a limitation of this device, it's a limitation of other devices if they can't access this server. Imagine having a bluetooth-enabled phone; this already has a little screen and keyboard (or touchscreen). You'll be able to attach a headset and control an MP3-player with voice commands. You'll be able to put a part of your MP3 collection in a 'shared folder', so other people on your bus can also check out your collection, while you listen to theirs and swap some files. And this is not restricted to music...

      Oh dear, we'll see more people wanking in the last row of busses again, eek...

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    2. Re:Hmm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So its a fancy, wireless enabled compact flash card? Is that the best you can do?

      This thing is goofy and dumb. You say it rules because it is the only way to play your DIVX movies on another computer? Well, there is also this thing called a CDR.

      Quit drinking the coolaid, this is a dumb, overhyped "product".

    3. Re:Hmm... by nudicle · · Score: 1

      if you're allowed to do that with mp3s this device might be a prima facie DMCA violation for the distributor as "trafficking" technologies that allow use/access to copyright infringements. not that I support the DMCA, just suggesting another way this law chills technological developement. -nudicle

    4. Re:Hmm... by joshsisk · · Score: 1

      You could also use it to save work at computer labs on campus (many, if not most, campuses have WiFi now). When I was in college, I had coursework that I needed Jaz disks for, and the labs usually didn't have Jaz drives. Nowadays I'd use CD-Rs, but most labs probably don't have burners, so CD-Rs would only be good to bring your work TO the lab, not leave with it.

      Right now I use a keychan USB drive to transfer files back and forth to work. If this wasn't too expensive and I could use it for other purposes, I'd consider it.

    5. Re:Hmm... by n3k5 · · Score: 1
      So its a fancy, wireless enabled compact flash card? Is that the best you can do?
      Obviously, you completely forgot that this thing also has a more powerful processor than even newest PDAs. You also forgot that it's in fact meant to be a better replacement for PDAs, which makes sense. With some I/O device, it can do everything a PDA can do for you, plus lots more, because it has more processing power, more storage space and more wireless connectivity. The big deal is that it's 'headless', which the creators think of as a feature, because this thing is teeny tiny small, and you have lots of different options for interfacing with it (wireless headset, phone, PC, thin clients like public web surfing stations, special hardware like glasses with tiny projectors and fold-up keyboards, ...).

      What you also didn't get is that what I said above was just a response to the parent posting, the first reason that came to my mind why SSHing to your home box would not always be a better option.

      You should really learn to _read_. And practice _understanding_ what you read.
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  35. no I/O by DraconicFae · · Score: 2, Funny

    "Half the weight of an ipod, and it has no i/o" cool! Does it run on Write Only Memory too? :)

    1. Re:no I/O by zbuffered · · Score: 1

      I developed a personal serve with no I/O that's 1/4 the weight of an iPod. It runs great, but since it has no I/O, you're just going to have to trust me.

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  36. Re:LOL!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That is the funniest thing I have read here in 3 days. Good Job!

  37. Replace laptops and PDAs? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why would this replace PDAs and laptops? You can't use it unless you've already got a second I/O capable computer nearby, like a laptop or PDA. And if you've got access to a second I/O capable computer, why not just connect to a cheaper, faster, non-portable server back at the office? I really don't see the advantage of having the server in your pocket. If I'm using a computer (desktop, laptop, or PDA), I really couldn't give a damn whether the server I'm accessing is in my pocket or a colo facility. As long as I can access it, it makes no difference.

    1. Re:Replace laptops and PDAs? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why not just install the VNC server on it and treat it like any other network device, only with a display? Or better yet, install an X server on it and use the network transparency feature to run any app that was stored on it, any time, from anywhere. And if you're gonna go hog wild like that, you might as well run an ssh server on it, and MPlayer and set its default output to aa. That'd be really handy.

  38. Huh? by Brent_Litzer · · Score: 1
    Isn't this just a IPAC with a hard drive MINUS a screen? Why not throw a screen on there? We all want a computer that fits in our pocket, but if there is no interface to it, there is no reason to have it in our pocket in the first place!

    It might as well sit in your bag and be a little bit larger with a keyboard and a monitor

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  39. Next Big Thing? by rufusdufus · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Perhaps the editor's did take a little licence when they decribe this as a handheld killer. This particular device? Probably not.

    This particular paradigm? Hey maybe.

    PDAs and laptops suffer from the "kitchen sink" problem. In order to please a sufficently large number of people, all sorts of features have to be included, and in turn, compromises made. Some people want color, others want audio, some keyboards some need a touch pen. In order to compete buttons are placed in random places on pdas so they can work like a dictaphone. All sorts of weird things that I don't want just to please some niche.

    And adding all those features raises the cost of the device.

    This idea of modularizing components wirelessly might be a really great idea. With this paradigm, I don't have to fit the CPU and hardrive into an ergonomic shape suitable for pen input. Also, your hand is relieved of the extra weight of those components.
    So just like desktops, you might buy your "monitor" from a totally different manufacturer than the cpu. You like Sony's egonomics but compaq's performance? Why can't you have both?
    Also, with this model, you don't need all the extra proprietary gobblygook to interface to your desktop.

    Sounds like a good deal to me.

    1. Re:Next Big Thing? by King_TJ · · Score: 1

      Ehh... I dunno. I think companies should do what's usually done in these situations; offer a varied product line of similar devices, each with different feature sets.

      You can't please "all of the people all of the time", of course - but trying to make one handheld do it all is a big mistake.

      Cellphone makers haven't quite learned this advice either, as a general rule. I think that's why you still see a lot of people using really outdated phones. They just want to talk on the thing and place calls easily. They don't want a stinkin' camera in their phone, or a video arcade of cheezy games, nor do they really care if it functions as an internet terminal with an undersized display. Motorola didn't often have the feature-packed phones that others offered, but they remained good sellers because they kept their menus largely the same across product lines. People learned the Motorola menu structure (and liked only having a few buttons to navigate with), so they kept buying what they knew how to use efficiently.

      Modularizing PDA components wirelessly leads to a lot of potential complexity and problems that I think are best avoided. (EG. More power consumption if all these pieces have to wirelessly chat with each other, and risk of interference breaking off communications intermittently.)

    2. Re:Next Big Thing? by glenebob · · Score: 1

      >> You can't please "all of the people all of the time"

      The paradigm the parent talks about makes this problem mostly go away. By removing complexity and therefore cost from the interface device, it becomes easier to choose the one you like best. I'm with you as far as the phone thing goes; give me a simple friggin phone. If I want games I'll buy a Gameboy. If a phone is no more than a small bluetooth device with buttons and a tiny battery (since it only has to transmit a few feet), how much could it cost? That would seem to make it easier for manufacturers to provide more choice.

      On the other hand, you wouldn't need as much choice in server devices, since they would have less room for difference (seems like, anyway). Sure, battery size could vary, or storage capacity, etc., but you wouldn't have the games/no games choice, or the camera/no camera choice (buy a camera if you want a camera).

      >> More power consumption if all these pieces have to wirelessly chat with each other

      Overall, yes, I suppose so. But the client devices would need to talk only bluetooth over a few feet, so at least your phone could be much smaller and lighter.

      >> risk of interference breaking off communications

      That seems like a non-issue. But if it isn't, there doesn't seem to be a reason not to provide a wired interface. Doesn't seem so bad to have a thin wire connecting your phone to your server when you enter a high-interference area.

  40. No I/O? by eGabriel · · Score: 4, Funny

    In what way exactly is wireless communication not I/O?

    I read "no i/o" and thought, well, bricks don't have i/o either... so what?

    1. Re:No I/O? by NanoGator · · Score: 2, Funny

      "I read "no i/o" and thought, well, bricks don't have i/o either... so what?"

      Don't knock bricks man. You can deliver messages with bricks that 802.11b has a hard time penetrating.

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  41. Mirror by Adam9 · · Score: 3, Informative
  42. apple ipod, anyone? by burns210 · · Score: 1

    sounds like an ipod with bluetooth to me.

    Imagine, a 30 gig ipod with bluetooth. Not only can you share playlists and stream music via roundevous, but you can also have a light webserver running on it too. sounds cool to me! ")

  43. No I/O by muzzmac · · Score: 1

    No I/O?

    Sounds like a lump of wood to me.

    Wireless is I/O. :-)

  44. Hey dude... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is that a personal server in your pocket, or are you just happy to see me?

  45. Cool... and about time by glenebob · · Score: 1

    Now if you had a PDA that could talk to this thing via bluetooth, we're almost there.

    You then remove all external IO from laptops and PDA's, except for the blue tooth to talk to the server. The server then handles all communication with outside networks, such as the Internet. Then you turn your cell phone into a client device as well. You bassically turn yourself into a walking wireless network, with the personal server acting as your router.

    Now, battery size becomes a non-issue for the interface devices (cell phone, PDA), and less of an issue for the server device because it's easier to carry a big battery on your belt than next to your ear. The bulky stuff moves to your hip or bag, and everything else gets smaller. Oops, now look, I've added bluetooth to my wrist watch and it plays MP3's (stored on the server). Any bluetooth device within 10 feet or so of you is now automatically connected to the internet (if you allow access, of course).

    Next step: more wireless protocols on the server. When you come in range of a willing 802.11 network, you can piggy-back on that for Internet access and save battery life. If your buddy has a wireless server device in his car, you can piggy back on that, and charge your battery as well. You will always have Internet access available, your battery consumption will just vary as you move from access point to access point.

    Sure, you can access the thing with a desktop computer too, thus giving your PDA a real interface. But that's just the beginning.

  46. Intel's other plans incude by gilesjuk · · Score: 2, Funny

    A watch with no display.

    A walkman with no headphones.

    A laptop with no keyboard or screen.

    A mobile phone with no screen, mic or earpiece.

    They're really going to corner the minialist arty gadget market :)

    1. Re:Intel's other plans incude by Troll_in_Captivity · · Score: 0

      ...and they'll have a sister company develop a chainsaw without an "off" state.

      News at eleven...

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  47. slashdotted by Troll_in_Captivity · · Score: 0

    Not the best, but a decent mirror can be found here

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    1. Re:slashdotted by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      That's quite a "personal server" she has there. It looks like it's getting slashdotted even as we speak.

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  48. So... by Apreche · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Basically it's a hard drive and a processor in your pocket. It connects wirelessly to "normal" computers. So I can carry my mp3s, my videos, my schedule, and all that crap around with me in a little box. But if I want to get at it I have to connect to the little box from a "real" computer.

    You know what's better than that? Just set up a "real" computer at home. Then use VNC, ssh, a web server, sftp, or any of that type of stuff. Then, wa-la you have the same exact thing. Only now, you don't have to carry anything around with you. It just sits on your desk at home, where it always is.

    The problem isn't that you can't get to your stuff when you're out of the house. The problem is that you can't get to a computer. What I'd like to see is a super super thin super small laptop. Screen, keyboard, small processor, bit of ram, sound output of some kind, pointing device and network connectivity through wire or not. The device would pretty much be a vnc box. Turn it in, connect securely to your machine at home. Use your computer from anywhere on earth.

    There's a problem with this. If you are on a plane, suck. But vnc uses mad bandwith. So if you don't have broadband it should have a command line only mode, or at least a low bandwith mode, like lbx or something. So that you can make it work by plugging it into the bottom of your cell phone and raising the little antenna.

    We don't need the services. Those can be anywhere. The problem is lack of io. Give me just the io devices and a means to connect, and I'll have just one computer. I'm asking for something like viewsonic's wireless monitor, only 10 times better.

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  49. Ubiquitous wireless coming... by Goonie · · Score: 1

    How long will it be till Wi-Fi is built into every motherboard? Not very long, I expect.

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  50. choose your interface by Gyorg_Lavode · · Score: 1
    I actually think this is a good idea. You can keep your information on a sealed device you don't have to take out. I can see this being something that you carry in your back pocket. Then if you want a pda type device, carry a REALLY thin client. Screen and wireless only. If you want something more advanced get a sunglasses-type interface. Or maybe your cell phone, (or anyones), picks up to it, (if it's not incorporated into cell phones like the inventor invisions). Or just carry it and use it as the equivelant of a USB data stick.

    While it is not completely new or different, the fact that it is just a simple, yet robust way of doing something that has many options for use makes it a good idea.

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  51. Popped in mind by sw155kn1f3 · · Score: 2, Funny

    > the size of a deck of cards, half the weight of an iPaq, and has no i/o, no screen, and no peripherals. The device never leaves its user's pocket or handbag

    Dumb like a rock and hard like a brick... Windows CE/ME/NT :)

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  52. Invent this Gene. by Oriumpor · · Score: 1
    first off... the tricorder device.... what exactly did it do.... anything like....
    Other potential applications for the personal server include sensor data retrieval for science and biomedical purposes, and presentation and other mobile computing applications for business users.
    this?

    How about those nifty "communicators" were they anything like cell phones?.... hmm... he never put them together!
    Want said in a recent interview that the uptake in wi-fi, the introduction of Bluetooth into mobile phones, and the miniaturization of storage media will contribute to the commercialization of his new product. At the moment, the personal server is a stand-alone device, but Want envisions it becoming a part of mobile phones, eventually.


    Star Trek Eat your heart out... a Communicator/Tricorder in one.
    1. Re:Invent this Gene. by rI'HaD+martaq · · Score: 0
      hehe I just have to comment on this.

      The tricorder was more or less a laptop computer with the same comminication capabilities of a standard communicator badge. (I'm referring to the TNG-era and newer tricorders here, not sure of TOS or ENT era versions.)

      Dust off your old paperback copy of the Enterprise-D Technical Manual, and flip to page 119. (Section 10.6 - Tricorder)

      The standard tricorder is a portable sensing, computing, and data communications device ... its capabilities may be augmented with mission-specific peripherals"

      "The internal electronics, on the other hand, were designed to provide the greatest number of possible options in managing sensor data, visual images, and multi-channel communications , in all incoming, outgoing, or recorded modes."

      "The major electronic components include the primary power loop, sensor assemblies, parallel processing block, control and display interface, subspace communication unit , and multiple memory storage units."

      "Power is provided to the total system through a rechargeable sarium crystal rated for eighteen hours of full instrument activity. True power usage rate and maximum useful time is, of course, dependant on which subsystems are active, and is continuously computed for call-up on the display. Typical power usage is 15.48 watts."

      [Two paragraphs on its computing subsystem layout and speed, not quoted here.]

      "Communications functions are carried out by tricorder through the subspace transceiver assembly (STA). Voice and data are uplink/downlinked along standard communicator frequencies. Transmission data rates are variable, with a maximum speed in Emergency Dump Mode of 825 TFP. Communication range is limited to 40,000 km intership, similar to the standard communicator badge." [Paragraph on its data storage subsystem layout and speed, not quoted here.]

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  53. Too Small, Too Slow Net, what standards? by billstewart · · Score: 2, Interesting
    The 1GB Microdrive is simply too small; an iPod drive is much closer to adequate. The reason I'd want to use one of these things instead of hauling around my clunky laptop is so I can carry my entire Microsoft Outlook work email system (needs about 2GB) plus my personal email (needs about 100MB :-) plus the files I've been working on in the last year (another ~1GB, much smaller if I'm constantly sorting down to the files I've used in the last week or month, which is way too time-consuming for a labor-saving device.) That way I could get by with a thin client at work (~$200 plus monitor) and my own PC at home.

    A 400MHz XScale is just fine for this kind of thing. But while Bluetooth is good for some applications, it isn't fast enough for many others; it's like an 0.5X CD-ROM speed, though it's certainly good enough to drive the headphone audio. 802.11 could be fine (though it tends to be a power hog, suggesting the need for an on-off switch...), though it's tempting to recommend a simple ethernet jack on the side instead, which has the advantage of working in places where people are correctly paranoid about which side of the firewall the wireless network belongs on. I tend to favor having an "ok to connect new object" button anyway, for security reasons...

    UPnP is one of them evil Microsoft things :-) Is it the right one? What about security - how do you implement that correctly for this kind of device?

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  54. Re:who's the pretty girl? by Dylan+Zimmerman · · Score: 1, Informative

    Her name is Teresa Nakra.

    http://www.wired.com/news/images/0,2334,58679-72 02 ,00.html

  55. More Information... by Doodhwala · · Score: 2, Informative


    Another interview of Roy Want about the personal server can be found on Intel's website here

  56. The Empereor's new PDA by August_zero · · Score: 2, Funny

    "Your Majesty! this is the most advanced PDA ever envisioned! it can do everything! and it needs no no I/O, no batteries and it can hold all your data without ever needing to change batteries!"
    "Looks like a block of wood to me." said the grand Vizer
    "Well you see your majesty" continued the Intel Rep "only the most intelligent people can see the data it contains, because beams the data straight to their minds"
    "Well of course I knew that" the empereor quickly replied "I was just schedualing my apointments and playing solitare just now, what a wonderful device, and I love the wooden finish"

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  57. Like a wireless HD...? by agent+oranje · · Score: 1

    This sounds like a fairly good idea to me, but isn't it basically just a portable HD with a battery that uses wireless connectivity...?

    Porta-server sounds really impressive, but basically, it sounds like a FireWire drive that's slower, but has the advantage of not requiring a big, clunky wire to use it. Lack of a big, clunky wire will probably jack up the price to some unreasonable level, though... in which case, why buy a wireless HD when I can just use my iPod...? There's also that additional issue with privacy -- if you no longer need a connection to a drive to read it, how do you hide it from your foes?

    And how does this lead to the downfall of the laptop/PDA? Having no display or input seems like a hinderance to accessing the information when you're on the go.

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  58. Handheld server eh? by Faust7 · · Score: 1

    Slashdot that thing hard enough and it may well vibrate.

  59. Sure, if you want to get locked out of your data by Wesley+Felter · · Score: 1

    Biometric authentication has so many false negatives that it's practically useless.

  60. It's not new, just because Intel is doing it... by KenCrandall · · Score: 1

    This has been a dream of people for many years, and people have already been persuing it. Check out:

    http://www.oqo.com/

    for more information.

    Personally, I think that computing has moved (rightfully so) more towards a use-centric model, rather than a technology-centric model. We have more computing power at our personal disposal than we ever need. (Re: iPAQ's amd Palms) Howerver, in order for all that computing power to be useful , it needs to be surrounded by a good metaphor, and needs to be centered around people's information, lifestyle, wants & needs, and activities.

    I feel that this explains Apple's recent resurgence in popularity, and the good direction that Jobs has the company going in, as well as the successful Sony Clie brand, and the newer camphones.

    Technology may sell, but usefulness sells more.

    Cheers,
    Ken

    1. Re:It's not new, just because Intel is doing it... by glenebob · · Score: 1

      That thing has a monitor. It isn't even close to what a 'personal server' would be. By definition, such a device cannot have a user interface of its own.

  61. Best comment this month, and last by autocracy · · Score: 1

    Despite that this probably adds nothing to the topic, the parent to this is the best thing I've read in quite some time. Definitely a great point as to how people on Slashdot will follow a group mentality, even if that wasn't what you meant to point out. Still laughing...

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  62. Then there is the occult version... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    that stores your soul. Or, that's what you think when you sign the goatskin. Little do you suspect that your soul is packetized and shipped to Redmond, where BeelzeBill holds court.
    Intel product, you say?
    Andy Grove had the prototype...
    Mwahahahahahahahahahaha

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  63. "he device never leaves its user's pocket" by Daetrin · · Score: 2, Funny

    Where it spends it's time spewing EM waves into the user's crotch :)

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    1. Re:"he device never leaves its user's pocket" by TheConfusedOne · · Score: 1

      Where it spends it's time spewing EM waves into the user's crotch :)
      True, but at least the crotch can return fire. (Especially if it has a vibrate mode.)

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  64. Nice idea, but what about this... by pr0ntab · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Looks like a pen. Writes like a pen.

    But it's not a pen. It contains 256 MB (or so) of flash, which is shared via bluetooth. A 10cm high gain antenna is hidden within the length of the pen itself, and powered by a single AAA battery. Walk by an enabled PC, optionally type in a password, and all your documents, your keyring, etc. are available.
    Finally, as an added bonus, when you write on paper (or anything for that matter), you can choose to record your scribbles on the flash drive. Tiny gyroscopic sensors determine the motion of the pen across the page, and a pressure sensor determines whether the pen is against a writing surface. Each time you expose the ball point head it creates a new file, and when you retract it, it closes it. You can tell which file is which by the timestamps.

    THAT would kick ass. And as embedded logic gets more powerful, you could have a personal web/email/jabber server running in there too.
    A wireless iPod sounds nifty, but where's the innovation people?

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    1. Re:Nice idea, but what about this... by glenebob · · Score: 1

      Hmm, it sounds like a good interface device for a personal server, or a PDA maybe. Nice idea, but at a different level.

    2. Re:Nice idea, but what about this... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      NONONONO....

      forget the password.... passwords can be sniffed by compromised 'enabled' computers. If you can record writing, **use your signature** as the password.

      And maybe a PIN number you type in for really sensitive stuff. you trust the pen thing.. you don't necessarilly trust what your connecting to it with.

    3. Re:Nice idea, but what about this... by sexecutioner · · Score: 1

      Fantastic!!!

      I like it, although you may have a tough time getting the circuits down to size at the moment; and it'd need non-standard form-factor flash, driving up the price.

      But you are right, it's a neat idea.

    4. Re:Nice idea, but what about this... by zachlipton · · Score: 1

      That's a good idea. It sounds like you are describing a later version of the Anoto system (marketed as the io, see http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm?page=products/fe atures/digitalwriting&countryid=19&languageid= 1)

      Of course, you would need some way to ensure that the data wasn't sniffed off your pen as you walked by. The idea of wireless jabber, etc... is interesting, though how would you read the other side of the conversation?

    5. Re:Nice idea, but what about this... by pr0ntab · · Score: 1

      It's just the jabber server. Presumably, you would hook it up to a PDA or laptop (like a whip antenna or stylus) and use interactively it that way. The reason for it being a jabber server is so that it can queue up XML messages people send you, and send out pre-programmed responses. Like business cards, presentation notes in MathML, etc. Not so much for the interactive features.

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    6. Re:Nice idea, but what about this... by adamfranco · · Score: 1

      Each time you expose the ball point head it creates a new file, and when you retract it, it closes it.

      That sounds awsome, except for those of us who nerviously click their pens 50-70 times per minute. Thousands of tiny files! I'd fill up all 256MB in about one boring meeting.

      On second thought, maybe that would train us to stop clicking, bringing about new light to those annoyed by us nervious clickers.

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    7. Re:Nice idea, but what about this... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That sounds awsome, except for those of us who nerviously click their pens 50-70 times per minute. Thousands of tiny files!

      Simple fix: Don't store 0-length files.

    8. Re:Nice idea, but what about this... by sootman · · Score: 2, Informative

      It's already starting to exist but requires special paper (it reads dots on the paper instead of using gyros) and a dock (no bluetooth). Read all about it at Logitech's site or buy one at ThinkGeek.

      In other news, I've seen those 256 MB USB keyring drives on sale for $90-100 for the last two weeks. Probably even cheaper if you look around at pricewatch or whatever power-shopper site you like.

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  65. Seems that my dream machine is here. by GrimReality · · Score: 1

    I have always deamt of a device that I would be able to carry around without having to take it out of my pocket (acutally, I wanted it to be strapped to by chest permanently :-)).

    My concerns were this. If I forgot my PDA or handheld computer where I was using it, and came back to find it missing, I might lose irreplacable data. Of course, the device can be replace after you make enough moolah.

    So I wanted to keep the I/O unit and the real unit separate. This will reduce the chance of you losing the most important stuff. [Of course, it will not completely eliminate the problem.]

    Seems it will soon be ture, of course if can afford it :-).

    Thank you.
    GrimReality
    2003-05-04 23:44:10 UTC (2003-05-04 19:44:10 EDT)

  66. IBM are working on it too. by ErikJson · · Score: 2, Informative
    I think they were even faster than Intel. Here is this:

    "The first technology--a prototype developed by IBM Research--is the Meta Pad, a 3-by-5-inch, 9-ounce device that an IBM official hailed as the "ultimate personal server." The Meta Pad contains an 800-MHz chip, a 10GB hard drive, a 3D graphics chip, and 128MB of memory; it is capable of running Windows XP.

    The device, which supports Bluetooth, is designed to help give users access to all their data whether they are connected to their desktops or laptops, via a docking station or wirelessly over the Internet. "

  67. ATTENTION: Ignorant Yankee by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    We have been alerted of the nonphrase Wa-la used in your posting. Here at the institute for reeducating retards, we feel the need to point out that the word is voila. Learn some french yankee, it is the basis of your language.

    1. Re:ATTENTION: Ignorant Yankee by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, I concur

    2. Re:ATTENTION: Ignorant Yankee by rosie_bhjp · · Score: 3, Informative

      Bullshit. English came by way of the people living roughly what is now western Germany and the northeastern part of the Netherlands. The French influence came by the Norman invasion of England, which formed Middle English (the Normans spoke an old French variant). Modern English was then further influenced by incorporating Latin and Greek during the industrial revolution.

      American English is a further derivative of EARLY Modern English influenced heavily by Spanish, Native American, and to a much lesser extent French.

      So do you actually know some Etruscan or are you a hypocrite?

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    3. Re:ATTENTION: Ignorant Yankee by kalidasa · · Score: 1

      A very simple point: one should not use words that one doesn't understand. Writing "wa lah," or whatever the original poster wrote, shows that the author doesn't understand the word he used. While the "ignorant yankee" bit was rather trollish, the grandparent post had a point.

      There is no "heavy" influence of Spanish or Native American languages on American English. Perhaps a few hundred years down the road, yes, but not yet. So far English has picked up some vocab from them, little else.

      The differences between Early Modern English and Modern English are mostly the result of gradual changes in the language's syntax as usage conventionalized.

      Modern English could be described as a language with a vocabulary mainly derived from both Norman and Saxon and a syntax mainly but not exclusively derived from Saxon, but with both very heavily influenced by English's tendency to embrace and extend other languages.

      And though I know that question was directed at the parent post and not at me, in case the question recurs, yes, I do know some Etruscan (insofar as anyone can be said to "know" a language which is only partially understood).

      How that for another ignorant Yank?

  68. Wireless iPod? by 2nd+Post! · · Score: 1

    Hmm, except it doesn't play MP3s. Or Breakout. Or Solitaire. Or let you view notes. Or your contacts. Or your calendar. Or recharge while it's tranfserring data.

    So... did I miss anything in it's functionality other than the differences I already listed?

  69. You hacked my handbag! by bombkit · · Score: 1

    The device never leaves its user's pocket or handbag.

    2003 - That bastard stole my grandmothers handbag! 2005 - That bastard hacked my grandmothers handbag and DDOS'ed my pockets!

  70. Re:"the device never leaves its user's pocket" by BoyHowdyAAF · · Score: 2, Funny

    Never? Machine wash cold. Tumble dry low.

  71. Sar, meet testiculars... by way2trivial · · Score: 1

    so, at what point does Sar schedule include likely effects of spermatoza production?

    (Sar being the scale of brain cancer (supposed) causing rf output from the phone)

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  72. Re:Intel is too late...Pocket protectors. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Intel is too late. People have been serving themselves with their hands in their pockets for AGES!"

    The bad, for some is that they come up emptyhanded.

  73. Sounds like Roaming Profiles meet "next big thing" by default+luser · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Except you set it up once and can use it anywhere.

    ANYWHERE.

    Desktop, mobile, PDA, Cell phone, you name it. You're customized and ready to go, your OS and programs follow you ( The simpler ones run on the Xscale processor, the wireless link is just for shared data and I0 / screen updates, the more complex platforms get streamed boot data then program data, like your desktop )

    We've been bitching at Intel for years for not making things portable enough, instead concentrating on bigger, hotter power hungry desktop chips.

    Now Intel looks to be making a move to make everyone's standard data server run on a capable but not overkill Xscale.

    Sure, there are some specialized things it can't process. Want to play a game? Mosey over to the desktop, your Xscale will stream the game files over in a few seconds, and while you play, fully configured with your key. Want to crunch a new movie into Divx or your favorite video codec? Your desktop will encode it and download it to the server in real time. Your desktop probably won't even have a hard disk, everything including the OS should be streamed from your handheld server.

    * The key point here is this can be used as a seamless virtual session device ( ala Citrix ) plus fileserver plus desktop companion. Remote GUI sessions have always had problems catching on because the software is expensive and they require solid bandwidth. This has neither problem, and does more, so it's not dedicated hardware you're plunking down for. The battery life could be better, true, but for first generation >4 hours is impressive.

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  74. Sort of like internet kiosks... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.connectivite.com/

  75. stand-alone? by tchdab1 · · Score: 1

    Noble intentions, but could someone please explain how a device with no integral I/O exists stand-alone? Gotta be a mis-comm, a journalistic embellishment.

  76. Imagine... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Imagine a beowulf-cluster of these!!

  77. PDA: laptop killer remember? by mnmn · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Think of the webpad my microsoft thats supposed to kill laptops....

    Now think about it. People need a computer they can carry and use. It better have a monitor, drives, keyboard.. and you got a laptop. Can a PDA replace it? No too small a screen and keyboard. Increase the screen and keyboard size and youve got a picturebook. Similar to a laptop but that harddisk needs an upgrade..

    So a webpad is something more expensive. People dont need it. Some might buy it. Just like the some who buy PDAs and use it for maybe 2 minutes each day for nothing really important, except maybe games, for which the laptops still the best tool.

    So we will continue to see things that their makers will claim will kill the laptop and picturebook and pda and webpad and intel thingy.

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  78. Replace the laptop? by the+uNF+cola · · Score: 1

    I have a desk at home and at work with a comptuer at each one. If I use a laptop, it'd be away from my desk. For those times I dont' want to be behind my desk or just be somewhere else.

    Now puzzle me this. Cowboys. If it has no screen, and I'm on my couch, or in a meeting with no screen/keyboard... how do I use the thing?

    This thing feels more like a firewire, portable HD, without the wire and it serves itself up. Neat trick, has a nich, but not the same as a laptop or PDA.

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  79. Answer to the age old question!!! by snero3 · · Score: 1

    Now when you get asked that age old question "is a in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?" you can reply "neither it is my personal mp3 streaming sever!!!"

    how is that for classey

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  80. A Clarification on "no io" by aking137 · · Score: 1

    For the uninformed, "io" is short for "input/output". It's what computers do: they take input, and they supply output. It's why they're useful. A computer with no i/o is about as useful as this C program:

    /* main.c */

    main() {
    }

    (You can compile this program on most UNIX systems by typing: gcc -o main main.c)

    To have no i/o, you can't have a screen, a keyboard, a mouse, sound, external drives, a network interface, or anything - not even a serial port. In all fairness, a deck of cards are more useful and are also likely to have a lower power consumption.
  81. Neat idea. by SoupIsGood+Food · · Score: 1

    This is an extremely good idea, but it needs to leverage device integration.

    The "personal server" would, essentially, allow you to take all of your personal data with you wherever you went... no matter what computer you sat down in front of, you would have access to your files and even the applications needed to access and edit them. Imagine an iPod with 802.11 and Appleshare (or NFS or Samba).

    The downside is that away from a computer, you would have no way to access or modify those files. So you'd need a PDA and a personal server, anyway.

    The logical extension is to combine the personal server with a PDA. Hell, might as well build the whole damn thing into a cell phone... an iPod sized cellphone with 5 gigs of data for MP3s, client databases, config files, what have you.

    Add bluetooth to this thing, and you wouldn't even need a PC, just a screen and keyboard that will talk to the personal server/pda/phone. Instant desktop, without taking the computer from your geeky belt clip. Perfect for businesses, but not so hot for home gaming... hence the server. Wander over to a real PC, and you're still in business, with the same set of user information.

    Base the thing around open standards, and you should be able to wander from a Mac to a PC to a Sun workstation and back again, with the same set of files...

    It's a really neat idea.

    SoupIsGood Food

  82. Trojan horse for "trusted computing" by mariox19 · · Score: 1

    So, let me see if I get this straight. This little gadget is going to interact with whatever computer happens to be around it, providing that computer is set up for this. Well, what exactly will that "set up" entail?

    I see this little device as necessarily incorporating Palladium (or whatever the hell they're calling it these days). How else can these computers play with strangers?

    When Microsoft, Intel, et al, roll out their trusted computing initiative, they're going to have to get us all to buy into it. The main inroad is going to be nifty, little gadgets like these. People will just "have to have them," and they will not come without various "security" measures built in.

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  83. The main significance by Lord_Dweomer · · Score: 3, Interesting
    The main significance that I see with a system such as this, where its use is merely to store data to be read/modified by other devices is that since now we can store this part of the computer, imagine how much power you could suddenly cram into a "handheld" device. Now I think we will see a small breakaway from that concept and into another concept which I feel will bridge the gap between handheld users and wearable users. Slowly we are seeing the modular wearable computer form. If all you need to hold in your hand is a screen/speakers/input device, suddenly you are working with significantly more space to play with if you remove the processor and HD and memory to a wireless unit stored in lets say.....a backpack.....or a purse....or a briefcase........or a jacket pocket. We can't always just move to smaller devices, sometimes we need to split them up, and then individually shrink the components, and this is a good step towards doing just that.

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  84. Hi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's very interesting.

  85. Teresa == babe by Noodles · · Score: 1

    I don't want a personal server.... I want Teresa.

  86. Irony by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You have to see the irony in the geek tendancy to use 'sex appeal' to describe asthetic value in a gadget. They'll never get laid, so they fantasize about fucking their keyboard.

    1. Re:Irony by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You obviously haven't seen the "Simply Porn" Palm ads.

    2. Re:Irony by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Brings new meaning to the term "hairy Palms", doesn't it?

  87. Useless, of course. by Guspaz · · Score: 1

    The whole point of a PDA or laptop is to use it when you don't have access to a computer. Yet, this so-called PDA/laptop killer will somehow replace PDAs/laptops without being usable where PDAs/laptops are? I don't follow Intel's logic.

    How will this personal-server allow people to use a computer in a car, an airplane, a meeting, a bus, a waiting room, a restaurant, or anywhere else that one uses a PDA/laptop? Obviously whoever made those statements wasn't thinking very hard.

    1. Re:Useless, of course. by ocelotbob · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Think a bit outside of current usage. Lots of people have an mp3 player, a palm pilot, and a digital camera. Now they don't always carry all of them around, but they use them regularly. It's a pain in the ass to have to sync all three devices, each with its own sync program and its own subtleties involved therein. Now, throw one of these devices into the mix. You carry it around in your pocket, and you offload the storage features onto this one device. After the initial setup, you're done. It's got a pretty good processor, so integrating crypto to ensure that the 1337 d00d down the street can't run a sniffer is easier, or one could use that nice low-power processor to run a data manipulation program while you head home. You pop your pics in the device, it automatically makes thumbnails. use your audio i/o device, it automatically makes an .ogg of it.

      In and of itself, this device is worthless. Combined with devices you already use, it becomes much, much more useful. Though at the same time, this device is far from revolutionary, it's more evolutionary. A terapin mine does most of this already, albeit with a bigger form factor. Intel's goal is to make this as small as possible, so that it suddenly becomes worthwhile to work with digital media makers to develop single use, efficient devices that make transferring data easier.

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    2. Re:Useless, of course. by Anonymous+Freak · · Score: 1

      I don't think it is Intel's logic here, I think it is the writers.

      Intel would LOVE to seem more PDAs and laptops. (Using Intel Centrino and X-Scale processors, of course.)

      I, too, don't see how it could kill the PDA. Laptop, maybe, but not PDA. The point of a PDA is usually to have access to your information when a computer isn't around. A laptop is for moving your computer (data/settings) with you. This would partially alleviate that need, by having your data and settings with you, without hauling around the actual computer.

      When combined with a powerful PDA, it could be a laptop killer. (Keep the 'large' storage device in the coat/briefcase/purse, and use the just-as-big-as-the-input/output-needs-to-be PDA to interface with it.)

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    3. Re:Useless, of course. by tcak · · Score: 1

      Speaking of which, I've just bought a Palm Zire 71 about a week ago. It is "an mp3 player, a palm pilot, and a digital camera" all rolled into one. Too bad my new PDA does not have built-in Bluetooth or WiFi connectivity.

    4. Re:Useless, of course. by Nihilanth · · Score: 1

      have one of these connect to a HUD embedded into your glasses. type on a projected infra-red keyboard. no more pda!

    5. Re:Useless, of course. by Guspaz · · Score: 1

      The PDA that interfaces with this thing can already do all that.

      I can think of a better object to have; a 2.5" HDD with short-range 802.11g. No processor. Your PDA can access audio and video files, your MP3 player can have the capacity of a hard-disk without the size involved, a portable video player's size could be dramatically reduced...

      Apple has proven that you can integrate an HDD right into your device (iPod), but the iPod could be even smaller if it used a shared HDD that never had to leave your pocket/purse/backpack.

      Speaking of which, do they have 80GB platters in 2.5" HDDs yet, or is 60GB still the largest size?

  88. another url.. by njan · · Score: 1

    ..trawling the net for some information on this from another source, I came across this, which some html written by one of the researchers involved in the project, it seems.

    Admittedly, it isn't much, but it has a bigger picture. :)

    http://www.stanford.edu/~mckinney/intel.html

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  89. Low hanging fruit: Beowulf cluster! by Dossy · · Score: 1

    I couldn't eyeball any references, so I'll take the low hanging fruit. Fill a briefcase or two full of these things and you could have your own portable Beowulf cluster!

    Portable grid computing. Yow.

    -- Dossy

  90. is the size of a deck of cards by AndyChrist · · Score: 1

    "Half the size, actually. The rest is all glitter and gee-gaw designed to make a gullible public more likely to pay five dollars to see it."

  91. My take... by pr0ntab · · Score: 1

    I don't think there would be a need for a seperate "personal server". The device would respond to requests from files, and any server-like features are just response to complex requests. You could organize it around a whole XML-RPC framework with specific types of requests all of which are heavily geared towards processing on the client side at presentation time. You provide the data in a standardized format (or use some fancy XML markup) and keep it in there.

    Also, I don't think that using microdrives is a good idea because solid state is better suited for battery operation. Plus you don't need expensive drive electronics to deal with user handling. You can translate those savings into larger storage capacities.

    If you were worried about making huge volumes of data available, I would be carrying around a USB-enabled notebook drive, not a repurposed iPod.

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  92. What if I don't want the thing in my pocket by zorander · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Even at that size, It's annoying to add yet something else to my pockets. Three of my four pockets are currently consumed by a cell phone, wallet, and keys. This needs a better place to go. It's annoying to have technology in my pocket, especially if it is in any way fragile. Furthermore, does this thing generate any heat (which would make pocket use more uncomfortable).

    Granted, most women have a bag of some sort with them, but men tend to go without. I'm not for any kind of subcataneous form factor, but I'd tolerate an anklet or something (don't ask me how to get hard drives into an anklet, just a thought). Even better, put it in my watch--I'm more likely to have that than my cell, and it's fairly well accepted to wear one.

    Form factor must be considered. A Hard drive for your pocket isn't sexy, a normal enough looking watch that holds 80gigs whenever you're in 802.11/bluetooth range is--noone has to know.

    Brian

  93. Wow! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Leave it up to the Wintel world to be following in Apple's footsteps once AGAIN.

  94. First Step by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I read about this on /. a few years ago and I've thought about it ever since. Imagine this, you have a collection of electronic devices (digital watch, a cell phone, a digital camera, gps etc) Each of these has certain services that the other devices could use if they had a simple network (bluetooth) and a simple language to talk with.

    You take a photo of something and your camera gets the date/time from your watch and your location from your GPS. Your camera's batteries are low so it uses your cell phone to notify you. You want to change the channel on the TV but can't find the remote so you grab your cell phone.

    There is a lot of redunancy in your devices (keypads, displays, speakers, etc) that could removed if you devices talked to each other. Also, there are lots of "dumb" devices that could be made smarter by using your other devices. Your smoke detector could send your phone a message when it's batteries are low.

    I see this personal server as the first step towards this. You have a device with a lot of storage and processing capability but no interface. Then you buy other devices, like a digital camera or MP3 player , that have an interface but had limited storage.

    The best part is that every device you buy adds value to your network of devices and the devices should be cheaper because you can eliminate lots of redundant parts.

  95. I don't know about you... by iCEBaLM · · Score: 1

    ... but I would call bluetooth and wifi I/O.

    A computer without I/O == useless.

    -- iCEBaLM

  96. I sort of wrote about this about 2 years ago... by webword · · Score: 1
  97. Ever had a siezure? by SHEENmaster · · Score: 1

    That's not a crash or downtime, it's "scheduled maintenance" that you weren't informed about.

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  98. no i/o, no screen???? by Cnik70 · · Score: 1

    file under useless.....

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    1. Re:no i/o, no screen???? by DeathPenguin · · Score: 1

      No kidding. This looks like a wireless storage device to me, nothing more. I don't see how it can even be compared to PDAs and laptops. How are people supposed to get any work / gaming done without I/O? I can see how it could be used effectively with a laptop / PDA as a fileserver, but that's about it.

      The least Intel could've done is add a headphone jack and make it an MP3/Ogg player to boot.

    2. Re:no i/o, no screen???? by Cnik70 · · Score: 1

      That (wireless storage device) is exactly what it sounds like. I don't see how it can really replace a PDA since it wouldn't be as usefull as a PDA when I need things like flight reservaton info in the middle of an airport, or even something as simple as an addesss or telephone # when I'm away on business. Even worse, 75% of my PDA use is simply to write down memos and other notes when I'm on the run. How can a device without IO do any of this??

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  99. A better mousetrap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    They're all missing the boat.

    What we need are:
    - Simple devices (a camera that just takes pictures, a MP3 player that just plays MP3's, a GPS that just spits out GPS data, a scanner that just scans, a printer that just prints)

    - Cross-device scripting language, like "Javascript for Devices" or like Sun's old Java Bean Studio or even "Lego Mindstorms for Devices" or something like that

    - Wireless, of course (short range)

    - A PIN # to match all of my devices

    - Rendezvous so that they all auto-recognize each other

    This way, I could program my camera to talk to my GPS so that I know where that picture was taken, program my camera to talk to my cell phone so that when I double-click the shutter, email that picture to Mom. Program my printer to talk to my camera to print out pictures, program my car to email me when my odometer reaches time to change the oil, etc. etc.

    When I go on vacation, I just strap my GPS and my portable hard drive to my belt and bring my camera, no more wondering where that picture was taken, no more worrying about storage.

    Simple Devices and Cross-Device language.

    Eliminate the PC and complexity of it. Why do I need to fire up my PC to print & save my pictures?

    This company almost gets it. As does Intel, by the article.

    DNET. You heard it here first.

    Welcome to the next revolution.
    williesleg@hotmail.com

    I've worked out most of the details, don't have any prototypes yet, though. Soon.

  100. oh where? by psylent · · Score: 1

    oh where I pree thee is the mandatory Beowulf cluster post? ... cmon guys, this is Slashdot.. repeat slowly after me: "this is Slashdot where an article such as this shall have an 'imagine a Beowulf' ... post"

  101. I love articles like these... by NanoGator · · Score: 1

    Articles like these are fun. Geeks like me are supposed to be the ones finding cool uses for new technology, yet everybody describes in detail how they can live without it simply by jumping through a few extra hoops. I wish I was around when 2x CD-ROMS were announced. "All they did was spin the platter twice as fast, I can do the exact same thing by waiting twice as long for my data!"

    They're our future everyone!

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  102. Not to be pedantic by RichardX · · Score: 2, Insightful

    ..but the world needs pedants..

    If this thing had no i/o, as the article claims, it'd be a high tech brick.

    Despite the fact that it has no screen, speakers, keyboard, sockets, etc, it DOES have i/o - the wireless connection.

    Just being picky.

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  103. In the prototype phase by Ignominious+Poltroon · · Score: 1
    The 'personal server,' ... is the size of a deck of cards, half the weight of an iPaq, and has no i/o, no screen, and no peripherals.

    OK, it's actually just a deck of cards. Consider it a prototype.

  104. Also, the IO by pr0ntab · · Score: 1

    That thing is really wicked. It's halfway there (I like how it charges in the cradle... probably a better idea than alkaline batteries). If you could figure out how to lose the pad, and make it wireless... then a firmware update... boom!

    If it's too hard to make it truly freehand, it might be acceptable to use a set of magic buttons, "fairy clips", I don't know what you'd call it, maybe it looks like a ruler, but the purpose is to establish an origin, a baseline on the "paper" with which to compare it's position using sonar, RF, whatever. You would like to think that you could do a semi-decent job using dead-reckoning, and maybe a little user guided post-processing to get your scribbles untangled. But maybe that's asking a little much.
    It's a shame to have to carry around the pad.

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  105. Do you trust every place you plug in? by CaptainSuperBoy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If I were using this to replace my laptop I'd want to connect to it through terminals at my clients' sites as well as public terminals. That's basically why I carry around my laptop now, the PCs on sites where I work never have all the tools and data that I need. It's a great idea, after all I don't need to carry my own monitor and keyboard around and frankly I'm sick of digging around under random desks looking for a free drop.

    But the problem here is, do you trust every place that you plug your laptop in currently? Right now you don't have to since the act of plugging in doesn't give anyone access to your data. But I could imagine a situation where an unscrupulous customer or public terminal stole data from this personal server. All they'd need to do is see how you authenticate to it (say, use a keysniffer) and then they're free to grab your data whenever you're in range. I think a simple solution would be to have a button on the device that you would have to press in order to authorize access to it - the password is not enough. It's not foolproof, but it's better than just a password. Until there is some additional security you really wouldn't want to use these things at an untrusted location.

  106. Interesting applications by maxmg · · Score: 1

    I have recently been thinking about something like this - after trying out Knoppix, I realised that what I need is some easily portable data storage (with more storage space than a USB stick), so that I can carry my complete computing environment with me. Just need to whack a CD into any bluetooth/802.11b enabled computer, automount the drive and away I go.

    I agree with some of the posters in this thread that this might eventually reduce the clunky hardware bits (keyboards and screens, mainly) to commodities that just sit on desks and are shared by whoever needs to access their data at the moment.

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    I asked for a refund - and got my monkey back.
  107. Revolutionary! by nobbis · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Wow. This sounds awesome. You could run all of your applications on this personal server so that the device with your user interface can be really lightweight... I mean, do we really need a huge hard-drive in every terminal? It just makes sense. You could even let others use your server to run their applications. I can see it now. You'd probably want to run Java on it, and then you could upgrade the low-speed wireless link so that you could connect multiple of these servers together via high-speed wired links. It's almost like the network IS the computer.

    Why didn't someone think of this before?

  108. PDA perfection by Ender_Stonebender · · Score: 2, Interesting
    As a portable computing junky, I've spent a lot of time thinking about what would make the "perfect PDA/Cell phone". This article has actually caused me to add a couple of things to it. Here's what I've come up with so far:

    • Flip phone design similar to Kyocera's 7135 smartphone
    • Total of 3 LCD screens:
      • Color LCD screen (inside) for main display, on the top half
      • Monochrome LCD that covers only an area big enough for handwriting recognition or virtual keyboard or status messages for games/integrated debuggers/whatever
      • Monochrome LCD screen along the top when closed, used for caller ID and alerts
    • MP3 capability
    • Some sort of wireless connection
    • Integrated web server for entering data when there's a computer around, and a Java interface similar to VNCs for creating a virtual screen so that other programs can be used on other computers
    • Capability to communicate with USB or serial for those who want it
    • GPS-based alerts - these come two ways, "remind me to pick up my prescription when I'm near my drugstore" and "remind me about the meeting in time for me to get there"
    • Massive amounts of storage for a PDA (for this type of device, I'd say 10 GB is "massive" enough)
    • Two versions: one with an optical mouse on one side and buttons on the other and a built in thumb operated keyboard that uses a pointer to "tap" on things for those who don't like the stylus or can't/won't learn to deal with handwriting recognition, and one with a 4-way jog dial for scrolling through documents.
    • Expandability - I feel that the CompactFlash+ format would be best (most room for additional electronics), but I haven't really looked deeply into it.
    Of course, there are going to be some things I missed - feel free to point them out.

    --Ender
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    Loose things are easy to lose. You're getting your hair cut. They're going there to see their aunt.
  109. It is obvious why it has no I/O! by jonr · · Score: 1

    It uses Write Only Memory!

  110. Network While You're Networking ;) by Taliesan999 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Makes for a whole bunch of interesting possibilites...

    How long before someone develops a piece of software that lets you swap files with other such devices in the area automatically, maybe even search for specific files on other's shares?

    Turn up to a lecture and just by being there you get a copy of the audio and notes streamed to your personal server.

    Add an access mechanism to a television/home entertainment system. Boom, instant portable TIVO!

  111. I was really hoping for... by devphil · · Score: 1


    ...something like the useful tool in the early scenes of Niven's The Gripping Hand. Quoting from memory:

    [Bury calls Dr. Buckman at the university, using a voice-activated computer, no screen; its call sign is Horvendile]
    "This is Dr. Buckman's auxiliary brain. Dr. Buckman is asleep at present. Mr. Bury, he thanks you for the gift that you sent him. Is there sufficient urgency to wake him?"
    "No. I would like to meet with him when convenient. We are in [name of city]."
    "Dr. Buckman should have free time on Wednesday."
    "Excellent. Arrange a time with my house computer."
    "Would you like to leave a message?"
    "Yes. Jacob, I told your machine Wednesday, but any time will do. I'd like to see you before one of us dies of old age and sloppy medical techniques. Message ends."
    [slight pause, Bury continues]
    "Horvendile."
    "Sir."
    "Appointment with Dr. Jacob Buckman, highest social priority."
    "Sir. His computer confirms [some date and time]."

    That's a personal server. Until I can do that, don't pester me.

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    You cannot apply a technological solution to a sociological problem. (Edwards' Law)
  112. Similar to what I want... by singularity · · Score: 1

    As I listed in a previous post, what I want is a personal network. I want everything to work (via BlueTooth, 802.11x, whatever) so that everything on me works together.

    A storage device that holds songs for my MP3 player, data for my Palm device, and stores photos taken with my digital camera.

    The ability then to display pictures from my digital camera onto my Palm device.

    Being able to not only sync my cell phone and Palm device, but have them actually use the same information saved on the storage device (or on each other if I am not carrying around the storage device at the moment)

    I cannot imagine this is that hard to do. I would like to see speeds faster than BlueTooth for a lot of these things, though. What would the advantage of having my Palm device talk to a 3G cell phone vie BlueTooth? You would lose a good amount of speed right there.

    The other big thing would be the ability to not have the central server/storage and still have all of the devices speak to each other.

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    - (c) 2018 Hank Zimmerman
  113. It's about time they caught up. by linuxtelephony · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Unfortunately the site is gone now (I sold the site in 2000 and it got virtually no attention afterwards), but I wrote about technology like this back in 1999.

    I hope they really come out with this technology for a reasonable price, and with a good modular design.

    This type of device could be the central component of the mobile communications platform I was describing in a couple of articles.

    Add a module for a wireless phone -- beauty here is that module could be CDMA, TDMA, GSM, pick the technology. Add another module for a pager if you need it. Yet another could be used for wireless data/internet.

    Next, add your accessories -- color watch display, wireless headset for phone, handset for phone, wireless headphones, handheld (PDA style) display, digital camera (including video), small microphone for dictation (like some MP3 players have), keyboard, external extended battery pack (keeps internal battery charged, main power drawn from external pack until pack is drained), etc.

    This "platform" could be marketed by just about everyone, from computer stores ala Fry's and CompUSA to electronic stores (Radio Shack) to wireless carriers.

    Here's they key -- multitasking. This device would have to allow the use of the "phone" at the same time as the other modules such as camera (either still or video), PDA/watch, etc.

    My wireless background obviously slants my opinion towards wireless phones etc, but I find it interesting how close things are getting to some of the ideas I've worked on or written about over the last 10 years. The potential for this is huge, if they deliver this right.

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    . 62,400 repetitions make one truth -- Brave New World, Aldous Huxley
    1. Re:It's about time they caught up. by stephanruby · · Score: 1
      Are you sure your articles are gone? My embarassing personal web page and my less than stellar resume have been gone for at least seven years, but the Wayback machine just won't let them die.

  114. What's wrong with this picture? by Animats · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Let me get this straight. I'm supposed to carry around this little box with all my data on it so that when I get somewhere that has a keyboard and screen and knows how to talk to this box, I can log in and access my data.

    What's wrong with this picture? Why do I need to carry around this box? Why do I want to carry around data? That's what the Internet is for.

    Remember Java-enabled jewelry with onboard crypto? The RSA "fob" ID device? Dallas Semiconductor buttons? Same functional capabilities, less to carry. All you really need is an ID device.

    Ubiquitous computing looks more like "hurry up and find something that wastes compute power before we have to have another layoff". They need some better ideas over there.

    1. Re:What's wrong with this picture? by poptones · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That's a great point, except for a few little details that kill it.

      1) Where is this data stored online? Microsoft? Slashdot? Geocities? I dunno about you, but I have quite a lot of personal stuff that I might like to access away from home, and so far nobody I trust is offering free gigs of bandwidth and storage.

      2) I'm on dialup. Where I live there's not going to be broadband for sometime, if ever. I could travel a few miles to the library and make use of their bandwidth, but that just means carrying along CDs to upload to someplace when I could just as easily carry a "brick" and not have to upload anything at all.

      3) Even on dialup I'm behind a personal firewall. Even if you wee dumb enough to trust geocities or Microsoft with your personal info, are you gonna trust them to keep it safe from crackers, hackers and spammers?

    2. Re:What's wrong with this picture? by HidingMyName · · Score: 1

      I'm not so sure that it is the wrong direction, just that the next "killer app" has yet to be discovered. We are about due for a "killer app" by my reckoning, it happens about every 10 years or so. In the late 1970's PCs were invented and took off in the early 1980's, and in the late 1980's and early 1990's web browsers were developed and popularised during the early/mid 1990s. I'm not sure what is next, but the idea that people don't want to be separated from their data seems right to me. Now if we can only figure out what users want to do (always the hard part).

    3. Re:What's wrong with this picture? by Animats · · Score: 1
      1) Where is this data stored online? Microsoft? Slashdot? Geocities? I dunno about you, but I have quite a lot of personal stuff that I might like to access away from home, and so far nobody I trust is offering free gigs of bandwidth and storage.

      A few companies tried that. Remember "free remote backup"? But typically, this is a business to business thing. What you need is a virtual private network connection (htpps, ssl) from a secured partition (Palladium?) on someone else's machine back to a business server elsewhere.

      If all you have to carry around is music, get an iPod.

    4. Re:What's wrong with this picture? by poptones · · Score: 1

      But that was my point: using internet storage for personal info is a lame idea (at least until there's an open "paladium" platform that can be reasonably trusted). Having a backpack server that keeps all my info handy in an encrypted partition would be very handy - especially since it could communicate with that ipod or whatever else I wanted to carry.

      People have been coming out with swiss army computers for years and they inevitably fail. If I want a phone I want something that's comfy in my hand and doesn't require me to operate a dozen buttons before I can even dial the number.

      So far as having tunes in an ipod - think about this: there's little real differnce between this and an ipod except for the i/o. A server only appliance with bluetooth (type) connectivity could communicate with a "diskless ipod" - that means instead of spending $400 for a new music gadget you spend $100 PLUS the server. Seems like less of a value? Not to those of us who would like to enjoy higher quality sound with our primo earbuds. Not to those of us who would like to use the device at home. And I get to choose the security on my data and I get to choose the interface.

  115. Re:Sort of like internet kiosks, only less by AndroidCat · · Score: 1

    Yes, but a more industrial minimalist booth. The kind you would put in subway stations (with a hope of survival) rather than shopping mauls. Also, your PDA would control the vertical -- bring your environment with you. (Ooh, just had an SF "The Long Run" moment: "Goddamn slow hardware boss!")

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  116. Or you could just get a USB mini-drive. by Thag · · Score: 2, Insightful

    ...Which has almost zero security issues, or power issues, will link up with damn near anything, and is a good $100-200 cheaper at the same storage size.

    Or, for about 25 cents, burn a CD.

    Jon Acheson.

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  117. Meeting mode! by Ayanami+Rei · · Score: 1

    A little button turns off click sense. And if you forget, a tiny LED would blink when its recording, like a camcorder.

    In fact, lots of LEDs would be great. Blinking! The lights. ... blinking .....colors.... no interface.... blinky-lights

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    THIS THING CAN TURN ON A DIME, MACROSSZERO STYLE ALSO FUCK BETA, ~NYORON
  118. sounds like an excuse for an overpowered processor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you use intellegent protocols, i.e. built on ZeroConf or Rendezvous, you don't need to build in so much intelegence into the device. Say, have the drive use wireless Firewire to display itself as a device for a computer to access. Then you don't need the server part and likewise you have less of a need for pricey Intel hardware.

  119. One step closer to AR by Blingin'+AMD · · Score: 1

    AR = Augmented Reality (Anyone remember an article on that? If not, google it up, it's interesting.) If it has the capability to run as a server, what's to say someone can't rewrite the OS/firmware to actually facilitate AR. With the bluetooth capabilities, most or all of the instruments needed for AR (GPS, video screen goggles, everything else would be integrated into the pocket server: wireless connection, information proccessing capability, HUD generating software) If people can make a linux-based OS that fits on a single CD and runs off that CD without having to be installed, AR is not far down the road with this device. Then again, who would need a HUD for everyday activities?

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  120. Stone Soup by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So, it's a wireless hard drive. What fucking good is that? I want to use my PDA where there are no computers. If I can access a fucking computer then I'll use it instead. Hell, I can get USB Flash drives fairly cheap. The only difference is that I have to plug it in. Big deal.

    This sounds like the story "Stone Soup". Remember that? It sounds like this is a PDA, and all you need is a whole computer to access it.

  121. What kinda code is that site running? by minus23 · · Score: 1

    Anyone recognize what kinda code that site is running? -- I mean is it a php driven open source software that he just theme'd? I really like the look of it.

  122. At a certain point... by akaina · · Score: 0

    ... it just becomes the same as carrying around a laptop bag.

    (mod this because it's funny - it's funny cuz it's true)

    Now I'm going to need a utility belt with alot of pouches... one for my MP3player, one for my handheld, one for the fold-up keyboard, and one for my extra storage. At least I can set a laptop bag down when I try to take a piss.

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    Remembering that you are going to die is the best way I know to avoid the trap of thinking you have something to lose.
  123. 802.11b a power hog? directional radio? by Fat+Cow · · Score: 1

    I presume that wireless via radio is power hungry because it's inefficient and that it's inefficient because the energy gets shared out over a sphere.

    So my question is...why doesn't someone implement "tightbeam" radio links where the endpoints are able to adjust to changes in position?

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  124. that's kind of the whole point behind Bluetooth by g4dget · · Score: 1
    Congratulations: Intel discovers why companies like Ericsson have been working so hard on Bluetooth. And why Apple has been working so hard on Rendezvous.

    And devices for this kind of usage are already appearing: Sony, Toshiba, and a few other companies have developed personal wireless file servers. Internet connectivity comes via a Bluetooth phone. Wireless head sets and keyboards give you sound and data entry. And a wirelessly networked PDA gives you a screen.

    However, it makes sense to include a small screen on any wireless server you carry around, like Oqo, Antelope, and Tiqit are doing. Also, it makes sense to keep certain functions separate, like the cell phone, file server, and screen.

  125. i/o by Myopic · · Score: 1

    why does the article (and the link) claim that the machine has no i/o? when i first saw that i thought to myself "now what use is a computer with no i/o? that's about as useful as a brick -- literally". the thing clearly has wireless i/o. a computer with no input or output functionality is completely useless.

    pfft. no i/o. really.

  126. I don't know if this would be useful. by Lazy+Jones · · Score: 1
    With the currently available gadgets, there are already useful solutions for the following tasks:
    • Carrying data around (a few MB's: USB-Sticks or CF/SD/MMC-Cards; large amounts: iPods and similar devices)
    • navigation, communication/telephony, PDA, mobile gaming, mp3, digital photography (a large variety of separate or integrated devices exist)
    So what is there left to do, apart from the obvious miniaturization/integration, better UIs etc.?
    • protection of your data (encryption and safety/backups for all your personal information/data); ideally, the data on your PDA etc. would be synchronized transparently and continuously with some safe storage area, over the 'net, so that it wouldn't hurt you much if you lost your PDA.
    • authentication, secure access to your information (a password and a proper design of your gadgets should suffice, perhaps complemented by a fingerprint reader)
    I don't think that another integrated device that offers 50% of the desired functionality is particularly innovative. I'd rather see more efforts to combine existing solutions in order to solve the remaining issues listed above in a useful manner (bluetooth is a good step in this direction, because it takes care of interoperability). So, if you want to be innovative, build me a persistent network storage that can be used by my GSM phone, my mp3 player, my PDA and perhaps my digicam to store all my data in a safe and secure manner without manual intervention (whenever it is modified, through an available network link or otherwise GSM).
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  127. Size of this compared to... by DJPenguin · · Score: 1

    I'm just wondering how big one of these things would be when compared with something like a pacemaker? Us humans must have a bit of spare room in there somewhere!

    Of course, charging it may be a bit of an issue, unless you slept on an electric mat thing and it used induction!

    Would be kind of cool to have storage that you couldn't ever leave behind or lose.

  128. I was dreaming about one of these last week by melonman · · Score: 1

    This looks GREAT: I work on server-side stuff on several sites, and being able to carry around my own Apache server in my pocket and use it with whichever machine happens to be there would be a lot more sensible than lugging a laptop around. (Internet access from at least one site is slow and expensive).

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  129. Oh dear! by cgreuter · · Score: 1
    The personal server mounts on any PC that can recognize wireless devices: "Any computer becomes your computer," said Want.

    Hear that?

    That's the sound of the world's virus writers drooling.

  130. Distributed Computing by MSTCrow5429 · · Score: 1

    Whoever thought this thing was a PDA/laptop replacement is a total idiot. It's not a human I/0 device. This has everything to do with distributed computing, and nothing to do with mobile computers. It is clear to me that this is an attempt to have a "roaming profile" with all of your programs, settings and files in a real-world roaming device. Eventually, it will be possible for us to use almost any computer as if it was our own. Although why it is a physical device, and not a web service, I don't know. I could be a little off on it's true purpose, but I can't imagine anyone with intelligence thinking that a block of storage with wireless is a PDA or laptop replacement. That would be like saying cargo planes will replace cars.

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  131. it IS a server by IWX222 · · Score: 1

    the whole idea of palmtops and laptops was to take the office out of the office right.......so you can now do all your work on the train on the way into work instead of having to be at a terminal.

    I think i'm right in saying that most large offices have data on servers that everyone can access, if everyone had a personal server then they could sync it at work with the intranet maybe, and then have access to their work intranet without the call costs of dialling into their work's server.

    The role of the server is the one that has so far not been taken mobile, until now :D i love the idea, although the battery life would need to be higher than 4 hours for me to consider it. having said that my laptop only lasts 2 hours when i'm using 802.11b so it wouldn't be an issue when i'm on the move.

    One feature intel might consider is drip-charging it from USB for time when you only have access to one power point, like on trains here in the UK there is a plug socket next to each seat...but only one and it would be a bit shit if you were working for hours and then your server went down

    enough rambling

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    .sig me!
  132. Knoppix anyone! by mabhatter654 · · Score: 1

    Doesn't Knoppix already do this? This is just a variation with wireless. You load up version 3.2 with personal home on a 256MB usb fob and off you go. Any PC with a bootable CD and USB port is yours! Setup just how you want it [within hardware limits] Your data is yours, always save from prying eyes too. The only difference I see is that this uses Bluetooth, but I think Linux has that in the near future or already.

  133. Hub? by Jeppe+Salvesen · · Score: 1

    I bet they're envisioning it to act like a hub for interconnecting appliances or something. Its usefulness will be enhanced by "digital passports", however they end up being implemented. In brief - not exciting, but useful. Had our focus been on usefulness and profitability, the dotbomb (and dotcom wave) would not have happened.

    --

    Stop the brainwash

  134. Phone booths and Cell Phones by uberdave · · Score: 1

    What's winning the battle, phone booths or cell phones? I've been to many places where phone booths have been removed because "everyone" carries cell phones these days.

    This device will suffer the same fate. The whole idea of a PDA is portability. You can look up addresses, phone numbers, play games, etc. anywhere with a PDA. However, with one of these devices, you are limited to wherever they put a kiosk.

    "Sorry I forgot the bread, Honey. I had the grocery list on my personal server, but the lineup at the kiosk was too long, so I just got what I could remember".

    "Sure, I can beam you my address. There's a kiosk three blocks from here."

    This is dead in the water technology, folks.

  135. This thing has many uses by Ignorant+Aardvark · · Score: 1

    Wow, a wireless hard drive and pocket warmer, all in one!

  136. Day late and a dollar short! by MrJerryNormandinSir · · Score: 1

    I have to say Intel is very late on this one. Apple's
    IPOD Rules! I just bought a 15GB unit and I'm working on several Unix Apps for it. Yes there's no
    networking capability for it yet, but it has firewire
    access and you can upload 4.6GB of mpegs in 12 minutes, at least that's the performance I got from it. You can also use it as a hard drive if you wish.

  137. Not just that. by TheLink · · Score: 1

    Actually I've been thinking about this for some years, just don't as much money as Intel/IBM/etc. mp3 and basic file storage is just a very small tip of the iceberg.

    Think virtual telepathy and telekinesis.

    Enter a room, register with one of the area servers. On your wearable browser visit https://here/. Get the "room/area page", a list of people in the area, a list of services (airconditioner, lights, jukebox, vending machines etc).

    People could click on los_furtive and https://los_furtive.here/ which is actually the local address of los_furtive's wearable server. They could then upload messages, urls, multimedia to los_furtive, and los_furtive could reply/respond accordingly. Virtual telepathy.

    Virtual telekinesis would be controlling stuff from your wearable browser (gesture, or thought recognition - already done with macaques and mice). thought macros and bookmarks could help speed things up.

    However bad copyright laws could make it hard to legally record what you "see" as you walk along, or play it back, or send it to someone else.

    Later one could add stuff like face recognition (auto name captioning :) ) or maybe gun muzzle recognition and gun shot locators (military version).

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  138. The future? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have a feeling that this is the way all computing devices will be, not just personal ones. The days of having to connect a monitor to a computer via a (VGA/SVideo/etc.) cable are coming to an end. None of the servers in my data center are attached to monitors at all. VNC is sufficient, but it would be nice to be able to "connect" a monitor to a computer wirelessly, e.g., when the thing won't boot. But will take a long time to get there. The wireless idea makes a lot more sense for PDA applications.

  139. Oh Please by eegad · · Score: 1

    I can't even find an ATM when I need one sometimes. The last thing I need is a big block of nothing in my pocket looking for someone else's hardware to use. BTW, do you know where that keyboard has been? Ewwww!

  140. Re:Useless, of course. sugarbitch guspaz fucks ass by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

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    The following theorem may therefore be established as an eternally valid truth: If he would abandon his name-calling and false dichotomies, it would be much easier for me to shape a world of dignity and harmony, a world of justice, solidarity, liberty, and prosperity. What this underlines, I think, is that I do not find prevarications that are venal, distasteful, and hostile to be "funny". Maybe I lack a sense of humor, but maybe Guspaz the pedophillic diddling rapist baby raping sicko is not

  141. not a PDA by iamhassi · · Score: 1
    What in the world does this device with no Input or Output capabilities have to do with a PDA?

    Think someone needs to seriously consider changing the title of this article.

    I also don't think it'll replace laptops either since laptops are designed to be portable PCs not requiring a separate screen, keyboard, etc.

    Could you use it on a Plane?
    Could you use it on a Train?

    They already have a tiny PC you just plug into any monitor and keyboard and suddenly it's your PC. It's called the Cappuccino Mini Book PC.

    Only twist with this is Intel's device adds wireless connectivity, so it's compatible with about 0.1% of PCs currently in use. Can't wait to buy one!

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    my karma will be here long after I'm gone
  142. unintelligent personal remarks: the karma killer? by TheRealRamone · · Score: 1

    sorry about that (shoulda been "beautiful young woman" anyhow).

    although in a way, it was on topic, if barely, because her picture appeared without explanation in the article which had been linked to /.. however, it was certainly inappropriate. my apologies.

    in the picture she reminds me of young adele goldberg. you can practically see the bright, light of serious feminine intellect shining in her eyes as she demos cool new techstuff. beautiful.

    & again, sorry!

    --l'homme sur la lune ~ TRR