There's a reason Gnome is more popular for business-focused distros.
Yeah, and it's called 'vendor lock-in'.
Gnome is notorious for 1) never being completely *done* and 2) changing radically every couple of years.
Does this sound like anyone else we know? 'Standardising' on Gnome just causes Unix Balkanism all over again. Hell, now even some of the players are the same.
It's not just "KDE folks". There are a lot of users and developers who use KDE because it is technically superior and just want an organized effort to improve the integration of all apps with all desktop environments, so that we can continue to use whichever is technically superior, not whichever Mr. Perens decides fits his narrow view of "acceptable".
UserLinux is building a royalty-free development environment.
Horseshit. When you see 'User' Linux, do you think "That means it's royalty-free for developers"?
UserLinux *should* be building a seamless, easy-to-use Linux with a common look and feel and a default set of fully-integrated apps. In short, it should be doing what KDE has been doing for years. Imo, if they would just port OpenOffice.org and Mozilla to qt, they'd be about half-way towards the real goal.
KDE is *very* poorly integrated on RedHat 9. I've spent the last month picking it apart to try to make it faster. You should ditch GDM (why is that the default with KDE?); that would at least prevent a few Gnome libraries from taking up memory and maybe make KDE start up faster. Add DISPLAYMANAGER="KDE" to/etc/sysconfig/desktop.
There may be no practical way for people to know, but the photon knows. It's state is based, not on the initial state of the other photon, but whether the other photon has been measured.
Nonlocality is a bitch. Maybe you're right, though, and the act of measurement creates a 'information particle' that sets out at the speed of light from the measured photon to the other one. The unobserved photon wouldn't collapse until it received this 'informationton'. That would preserve locality, though I don't think it's a part of any current theory.
That may be how traditional optical communications works. Quantum crypto, otoh, relies on the light being put in a certain polarization state by the sender. It's designed so that a stream of single photons go from sender to receiver; there can be no equipment in-between. If an intermediary views this photon en-route, it disturbs the polarization seen by the receiver. Because of the way the sender and receiver can agree on which photons were correctly measured, any aberrations (intercepted photons) are discarded. The most you can hope for is a denial-of-service.
I think it's fucking hilarious that all you idiots think this can only be used for piracy.
Where's all the whining about how deCSS is educational and Napster was a legitimate business?
Face it: pirating pays for itself, with or without this. 300 x 4.5gb == 1.3 terabytes that can be easily catalogued and removed piecemeal for long-term storage. Where's that fucking hard drive troll now?
I've thought about doing it a few times. Take apart your DVD-burner. Put the parts in a CD Jukebox. They might even fit together without a lot of tinkering.
Why do corporate users need bleeding-edge software?
They need bleeding-edge hardware support because they like to buy new Dells; that means the latest kernel, plus a few modules, plus a recent version of XFree86.
They need a web-browser that supports the latest websites. That means a recent Mozilla, plus Java and Flash.
My clients in particular need Windows-like usability, which almost *requires* KDE3 (I'm not bashing Gnome, but I'll use it when it's ready). I know, I use KDE2 at home and it's okay, but I don't want to hear complaints like "Windows does foo; why doesn't Loonix do foo?" I want to hear "Why doesn't Windows do this?"
They also need Crossover Office, which is mostly written for the latest versions of the major distributions. Using anything but SuSe, RedHat, or Mandrake is asking for trouble.
That's pretty much your basic corporate desktop. Add in a few niceties like mplayer and a decent cd-burning app and it's bye-bye to Windows and spyware and Outlook viruses and crap licenses and "Reinstall Windows to fix" errors. Unfortunately, though, at the present it's hello to cut+paste problems and five different print/file dialogs and 256MB RAM requirements; but, I'm confident that those problems will be resolved as desktop Linux really gears up.
Many Geeks don't understand this, or like the idea that Linux is "By Geeks, For Geeks" and don't want Joe sixpack anywhere near it. This is going to change.
Until 'Joe Sixpack' starts coding his own GUI-everything or wants to pay someone (RH, SuSe, Mandrake) to do it, none of that will *ever* change.
RedHat was right, you desktop users who want Windows should just use Windows. Linux is not designed for you: it is designed for and by geeks and sysadmins. If you don't know a geek or you don't have a sysadmin, use Windows.
I can save *lots* of time on installation and maintenance of 100 desktops using that awful command line over any GUI yet conceived. That's the reason industry heavyweights like IBM are putting Linux on the desktop. That's also the reason that *free* Linux will never be one-click easy to install and maintain: there's no incentive for *anyone* to make it so.
Like he said, RH/SuSe is supported commercially, not only by the companies that release them, but also by third-party providers like Oracle and even Codeweavers.
That's the only, imho, reason for using either. The question then becomes: Why isn't Debian similarly supported? We are beginning to see commercial distributions based on Debian, so it's not that it's inherently unsuitable or *too old* or whatever.
The problem with Debian is that there is no *standard* distribution. The Debian people themselves have failed to create a 'default install' a la RedHat or Lycoris, that includes everything a corporate desktop or server would need, properly integrated. Instead, there's three different distros: too old (for desktop users), *testing* (which sounds like it's destined to fail), and too new (for 3rd party support).
Debian really needs to incorporate something like Knoppix into the mix, a distribution that starts with Debian stable and adds what's needed from testing and unstable. Have a vote or whatever to determine what apps and versions to include, then make it the *standard* Debian distro.
The real reason is that Linux sometimes chokes on devices that aren't recognized, especially Firewire and USB. I have a USB VoIP handset that locks up Mandrake if I leave it plugged in.
Unless you have some reason to believe your device emulates a hard drive, it probably doesn't. It's probably just the hardware autodetection that is causing the kernel to lock-up.
You can install IceWM on RH9, complete with desktop icons and Bluecurve and everything. It should run fine with 64MB of RAM. This solution would be comparable to the features of Windows 95. If you want a list of RPMS and some basic instructions, drop me a line and I'll write them up.
With RH9, Gnome takes at least 128MB to run properly without swapping. KDE takes more, about 192MB. Even then, as you said, both are slower than Windows 95, which (iirc) can be made to run on 16MB of RAM.
It was reported by Warmke and Davidson (1944) that hop scions grafted onto Cannabis stocks produced cannabinoid resins and this led to interest in the technique as a means of producing such material while avoiding legal restrictions.
I want to second this. I'm in the middle of converting a (small) office of workstations to RedHat.
Bluecurve is absolutely as usable as Windows XP, and *much* more functional. They are insane if they think they can't compete on the desktop.
As for brand, relegating Linux to headless servers will only reinforce the belief among PHBs that computing *requires* Windows. RedHat should have held out longer.
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Yeah, and it's called 'vendor lock-in'.
Gnome is notorious for 1) never being completely *done* and 2) changing radically every couple of years.
Does this sound like anyone else we know? 'Standardising' on Gnome just causes Unix Balkanism all over again. Hell, now even some of the players are the same.
It's not just "KDE folks". There are a lot of users and developers who use KDE because it is technically superior and just want an organized effort to improve the integration of all apps with all desktop environments, so that we can continue to use whichever is technically superior, not whichever Mr. Perens decides fits his narrow view of "acceptable".
Horseshit. When you see 'User' Linux, do you think "That means it's royalty-free for developers"?
UserLinux *should* be building a seamless, easy-to-use Linux with a common look and feel and a default set of fully-integrated apps. In short, it should be doing what KDE has been doing for years. Imo, if they would just port OpenOffice.org and Mozilla to qt, they'd be about half-way towards the real goal.
I wish them luck; but I'm not holding my breath.
KDE is *very* poorly integrated on RedHat 9. I've spent the last month picking it apart to try to make it faster. You should ditch GDM (why is that the default with KDE?); that would at least prevent a few Gnome libraries from taking up memory and maybe make KDE start up faster. Add DISPLAYMANAGER="KDE" to /etc/sysconfig/desktop.
There may be no practical way for people to know, but the photon knows. It's state is based, not on the initial state of the other photon, but whether the other photon has been measured.
Nonlocality is a bitch. Maybe you're right, though, and the act of measurement creates a 'information particle' that sets out at the speed of light from the measured photon to the other one. The unobserved photon wouldn't collapse until it received this 'informationton'. That would preserve locality, though I don't think it's a part of any current theory.
That may be how traditional optical communications works. Quantum crypto, otoh, relies on the light being put in a certain polarization state by the sender. It's designed so that a stream of single photons go from sender to receiver; there can be no equipment in-between. If an intermediary views this photon en-route, it disturbs the polarization seen by the receiver. Because of the way the sender and receiver can agree on which photons were correctly measured, any aberrations (intercepted photons) are discarded. The most you can hope for is a denial-of-service.
Here's a better explanation than I can muster.
They're the worst kind.
Fuck you very much for your hipocrisy.
Were you too stupid not to get caught, or what?
I think it's fucking hilarious that all you idiots think this can only be used for piracy.
Where's all the whining about how deCSS is educational and Napster was a legitimate business?
Face it: pirating pays for itself, with or without this. 300 x 4.5gb == 1.3 terabytes that can be easily catalogued and removed piecemeal for long-term storage. Where's that fucking hard drive troll now?
Fucking hipocrites.
I've thought about doing it a few times. Take apart your DVD-burner. Put the parts in a CD Jukebox. They might even fit together without a lot of tinkering.
My mistake. That's iso9660, isn't it. I was thinking 'floppy disk' and couldn't for the life of me figure out how to do that without using FAT.
Maybe the driver should be on the device, in an iso9660 filesystem. Would Windows recognize that?
They need bleeding-edge hardware support because they like to buy new Dells; that means the latest kernel, plus a few modules, plus a recent version of XFree86.
They need a web-browser that supports the latest websites. That means a recent Mozilla, plus Java and Flash.
My clients in particular need Windows-like usability, which almost *requires* KDE3 (I'm not bashing Gnome, but I'll use it when it's ready). I know, I use KDE2 at home and it's okay, but I don't want to hear complaints like "Windows does foo; why doesn't Loonix do foo?" I want to hear "Why doesn't Windows do this?"
They also need Crossover Office, which is mostly written for the latest versions of the major distributions. Using anything but SuSe, RedHat, or Mandrake is asking for trouble.
That's pretty much your basic corporate desktop. Add in a few niceties like mplayer and a decent cd-burning app and it's bye-bye to Windows and spyware and Outlook viruses and crap licenses and "Reinstall Windows to fix" errors. Unfortunately, though, at the present it's hello to cut+paste problems and five different print/file dialogs and 256MB RAM requirements; but, I'm confident that those problems will be resolved as desktop Linux really gears up.
Unlike CVS, rsync works fine with binary files.
Until 'Joe Sixpack' starts coding his own GUI-everything or wants to pay someone (RH, SuSe, Mandrake) to do it, none of that will *ever* change.
RedHat was right, you desktop users who want Windows should just use Windows. Linux is not designed for you: it is designed for and by geeks and sysadmins. If you don't know a geek or you don't have a sysadmin, use Windows.
I can save *lots* of time on installation and maintenance of 100 desktops using that awful command line over any GUI yet conceived. That's the reason industry heavyweights like IBM are putting Linux on the desktop. That's also the reason that *free* Linux will never be one-click easy to install and maintain: there's no incentive for *anyone* to make it so.
Like he said, RH/SuSe is supported commercially, not only by the companies that release them, but also by third-party providers like Oracle and even Codeweavers.
That's the only, imho, reason for using either. The question then becomes: Why isn't Debian similarly supported? We are beginning to see commercial distributions based on Debian, so it's not that it's inherently unsuitable or *too old* or whatever.
The problem with Debian is that there is no *standard* distribution. The Debian people themselves have failed to create a 'default install' a la RedHat or Lycoris, that includes everything a corporate desktop or server would need, properly integrated. Instead, there's three different distros: too old (for desktop users), *testing* (which sounds like it's destined to fail), and too new (for 3rd party support).
Debian really needs to incorporate something like Knoppix into the mix, a distribution that starts with Debian stable and adds what's needed from testing and unstable. Have a vote or whatever to determine what apps and versions to include, then make it the *standard* Debian distro.
How do you propose they do that without using the FAT filesystem?
DARPA invented the Internet to distract computer nerds from procreation, to the benefit of future generations of military recruiters and officers.
The real reason is that Linux sometimes chokes on devices that aren't recognized, especially Firewire and USB. I have a USB VoIP handset that locks up Mandrake if I leave it plugged in.
Unless you have some reason to believe your device emulates a hard drive, it probably doesn't. It's probably just the hardware autodetection that is causing the kernel to lock-up.
1) Please don't equate W2K with XP. XP is sluggish, clunky and has a long way to go yet before I'd be happy to give up Windows 2000
...You're just believing what you want to believe.
2) I downloaded over 90gig of patches
3) This speaks for itself: (Or I would have done if I hadn't had to reinstall Windows 2000 as often as I have.)
You can install IceWM on RH9, complete with desktop icons and Bluecurve and everything. It should run fine with 64MB of RAM. This solution would be comparable to the features of Windows 95. If you want a list of RPMS and some basic instructions, drop me a line and I'll write them up.
With RH9, Gnome takes at least 128MB to run properly without swapping. KDE takes more, about 192MB. Even then, as you said, both are slower than Windows 95, which (iirc) can be made to run on 16MB of RAM.
Try hops.
It was reported by Warmke and Davidson (1944) that hop scions grafted onto Cannabis stocks produced cannabinoid resins and this led to interest in the technique as a means of producing such material while avoiding legal restrictions.
They are both nightshades.
Tomato plants can get the Tobacco Mosaic virus, too.
Sort of like when you ordered the push for Stalingrad during WWII.
Slashdot: where people respond to Adolph_Hitler as though he really were.
I want to second this. I'm in the middle of converting a (small) office of workstations to RedHat.
Bluecurve is absolutely as usable as Windows XP, and *much* more functional. They are insane if they think they can't compete on the desktop.
As for brand, relegating Linux to headless servers will only reinforce the belief among PHBs that computing *requires* Windows. RedHat should have held out longer.
Teen1: Oh, here comes that cannonball guy. He's cool.
Teen2: Are you being sarcastic, dude?
Teen1: I don't even know anymore.
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