I'm sure Dub Dub, my level 20 Ogre warrior from the original EQ, is still standing there on the shores of Oasis of Mar, in his suit of banded armor and dual wielding Minotaur axes. Those of you who played EQ since day one realize how damned long ago that must have been.
Well, he would be, if my son hadn't logged him in a year later without telling me, gotten him killed, then failed to find the body because he had no clue how to get back to wherever he didn't even know where he was, from Oggrok. Interestingly I didn't even find this out until a year later when I logged him in for the hell of it on an account reactivation (I had much higher characters, but this was my first non-throwaway.)
So the triply ephemeral stuff (long outdated items in a virtual world on a deactivated account) now achieve true transcendence as they evaporated on a brief resurrection.
And that char was missing one of the banded wrist guards, too -- the smith didn't have enough to make one and was gonna get me one later. I never did see him again. To put it in perspective, this was before inflation and I traded a full suit of store bought chain and 60p for that almost-complete suit of banded armor.
I recall seeing a high level ogre as part of a group running buy in bronze armor and thinking, geeze, that guy must have just gotten back from fighting the gods. (Which didn't exist at that point.)
In fact, building in a mechanism to even archive old chars (and un-archive "within a few minutes" upon reactivation) might cost more than just building one honkin' database that they archive from time to time, never bothering to delete inactive accounts whatsoever. If a clogged db is not a problem, no reason to spend money unclogging it. Just run the whole system out of it, end of story. They have to back it up frequently anyway lest a crash cause them to lose active customer data.
Yes, you thinking they'll delete your chars is to their advantage to get you to keep paying, especially single engineer types with cash hemmorhaging from their pockets. But a character deleted is an account that'll never be reactivated. And the company is willing to pony up a few cents per account, in perpetuity, on the chance you might reactivate at some time in the future.
EQ, SWG, WoW, CoH, and UO have all had me reactivate my accounts at least once, and I have cancelled them again, too. Only CoH still exists (or will, as of tonight after I cancel WoW for the 2nd time.)
It's interesting that I'm cancelling WoW for the second time today, just as the expansion pack comes out. (I prefer the high speed, 3D travel, and feelings of being powerful, of City of Heroes.)
And no, you cannot have my gold, anymore than you can have the gold equivalents of my cancelled EQ, Horizons, DaoC, SWG, or MxO accounts. I will, however, make a quick login with each to pilfer all the returned items from failed auctions and store them in the backpack/bank to prevent their perma-evaporation.
Yes, there is some overlap, i.e. duplication in his explorations of the world, so he includes that time in the time to get to 60, but not in the time to explore the whole world. For a deeper understanding, see also, "kill 61 million boars..."
> It also means DVD install discs, ha, even bluray aren't > data discs in practice. Of course there will be exceptions, > but video didn't kill the radio star. Maybe maimed.
It's not illegal to stand on the corner and say, "That house over there is selling cocaine for $10."
It is illegal to stand on the corner and say, "That house over there is selling cocaine for $10." when you are hired by the cocaine house.
So are these people saying, "Product X sux because of this vulnerabily xyz here, exploitable via abc", and that's that, or are they saying, "Product X sux because of blah blah blah, and company X, could you pay me $10 or I'll release the info?"
NO, this is going the wrong way. We expect you should have been prosecuted for child pornography (taking pictures of of a girl under 18, namely, yourself), distribution of child pornography (showing them to each other), and statutory rape (lifting the shirt of a 17 year old girl, namely, yourself.)
Oh my god, three prosecutions for child pornography and child rape! Ooh, imagine the votes from voters for me this fall!
20 year jail sentences, concurrently! If you had been jailed in 1970 as you should have, you'd be just three years away from completion of your second 20 year term. Too bad they can't force you to register on the sex offenders list along with guys who soddomized four year olds, you sick bastards.
Sounds like you should have reported them so a prosecutor could prosecute the girls for statutory rape for peeling up their own shirts, then force them to register on the sex offenders list for life.
This just in: PITTSBURGH (AP) -- An 18 year old boy has been arrested for drinking alcohol. Although he's a legal adult, the prosecutor said, "we still want to hold him legally old enough and responsible for drinking something we have deemed him not old enough to be responsible to drink." When asked about the logical inconsistency, the prosecutor said, "Take it up with the voters this fall."
No, but is treating some horny 23 year old to a 20 year sentence because he had a photo of an anonymous 17 year old naked in a deleted cache area amongst thousands of others of of-age women, as if he was a violent raper of four year olds legitimately considered overreaching?
I recall a case I watched on TV, pre-Internet, where they had a secret film of a guy taking the child pr0n out of his mail box, then they swooped in and arrested him on posession of it. They had suspected he was a child pr0n loving bad guy, and just mailed him the stuff out of the blue, and swooped in before he could even open it.
> 2) people should be responsible for anything that shows up on their computers
Just like a driver of a car should be jailed for anything any passenger happens to be carrying in their backpack or pockets.
Just like an ocean crossing freighter worth a billion dollars should be seized by the government because one merchant marine had a doobie in his pocket and there's a zero tolerance rule.
Yes, the first place an awesome hacker who knows child porn scam and trojan tricks inside and out (but is otherwise truly innocent) wants to go is to work for a prosecutor who has an itchy trigger finger to get people thrown in the clink for 20-to-life because a cache has a cryptic picture of an unknown woman's coincidentally 17 year old boob from a popup 3 clicks deep away from an images.google.com search for "George W. Bush awesome president".
What if they keep their gun unloaded and locked up, with ammo locked up in a different place, both high up on shelves, and someone breaks into their house, gets the stuff out (they're very good safecrackers), and then hands the loaded gun to a child and then harps on the child until he shoots himself?
Should the parent go to jail for the rest of their life for that?
...er, at least until someone better at swaying the masses with idiotic promises comes along and he gets to be the one to stand in the way of all progress pending bribes both illegal and legal (political donations) to get the officials out of the way.
We now return you to your completely inadequate Classical Political Worldviews brought to you by the same people who told you there was a big bogey man in the sky.
Although it is hardly a new concept -- for millenia dictators have been using Total Criminalization(tm) as a way to get vicious assistants at every level of government. By making it such that someone must be bribed to get out of the way to get anything done, you gain a lot of supporters in government for your cause. It works wonders for everyone from Hitler to communists to heavy-handed socialism. And the best part? The bribed officials have done something illegal you can lord over them!!!
They might just be referring to ad pictures still in the cache -- remember that the gubmint has no problem treating cached (or even deleted) stuff as "still there" and therefore "technically you are in posession of it".
Remember, these are the same slimeballs who scrape the walls for marijuana smoke residue, then claim that residue, containing the chemicals is acual marijuana you are in posession of. Not evidence you had it at some time in the past, mind you. Actual posession since you are in posession of the walls.
These are the same slimeballs who claim the new "war on terror" snooping things are to detect terrorists and only that, then immediately apply it to other crimes under the "What? What you lookin' at, pal? There's no legal requirement to use this only for terrorists, read the law" bull-sh**.
I was unaware wanting to earn every last cent from your own intellectual property was a "ruse".
If making it slightly difficult for you to create backups keeps people from easily doing massive copying and distribution without permission, isn't that a fair trade-off?
Worse than that, you can attack a group of three monsters on patrol (e.g. the goody goody centaurs near the tauren lands), quick-slaughter one and run away before the remaining 2 can kill you. Run far enough and they give up and return to what they were doing, and where, which means they march back to where they were on their patrol point and continue.
So you see the idiotic spectacle of supposedly intelligent and goody two-shoes creatures reassembling on top of the corpse of their now dead companion, and ignoring him and continuing on with their patrol. Not aborting the patrol and returning to base because 1. they're under attack and 2. they need to report, which is the entire point of the patrol given they don't have walkie talkies.
Stupid. But CoH is no better with you attacking bad guys in bases while their buddies stand 30 feet away and do nothing, even though they clearly see and hear the fight.
Why are there no "hard" online games? Yeah, I know the market for competent people is mighty small compared to that of bumbling buffoons, but some of use want an MMORPG equivalent to Serious Sam on Serious mode.
The original Quake CTF mod had an option to eject a pack of ammo, where it would spin on the ground like a regular pack you stumbled across. It was intended to be used in clan matches for players to restock the defenders guarding the base with ammo not available in or near the base. But you could eject empty bags, too, and after about 30 or so, even the best video cards back then slowed to a few FPS or worse. A quick (as much as possible given the scenario) run through them picked them all up and fixed things.
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I'm sure Dub Dub, my level 20 Ogre warrior from the original EQ, is still standing there on the shores of Oasis of Mar, in his suit of banded armor and dual wielding Minotaur axes. Those of you who played EQ since day one realize how damned long ago that must have been.
Well, he would be, if my son hadn't logged him in a year later without telling me, gotten him killed, then failed to find the body because he had no clue how to get back to wherever he didn't even know where he was, from Oggrok. Interestingly I didn't even find this out until a year later when I logged him in for the hell of it on an account reactivation (I had much higher characters, but this was my first non-throwaway.)
So the triply ephemeral stuff (long outdated items in a virtual world on a deactivated account) now achieve true transcendence as they evaporated on a brief resurrection.
And that char was missing one of the banded wrist guards, too -- the smith didn't have enough to make one and was gonna get me one later. I never did see him again. To put it in perspective, this was before inflation and I traded a full suit of store bought chain and 60p for that almost-complete suit of banded armor.
I recall seeing a high level ogre as part of a group running buy in bronze armor and thinking, geeze, that guy must have just gotten back from fighting the gods. (Which didn't exist at that point.)
In fact, building in a mechanism to even archive old chars (and un-archive "within a few minutes" upon reactivation) might cost more than just building one honkin' database that they archive from time to time, never bothering to delete inactive accounts whatsoever. If a clogged db is not a problem, no reason to spend money unclogging it. Just run the whole system out of it, end of story. They have to back it up frequently anyway lest a crash cause them to lose active customer data.
Ahh, grasshopper, you have learned.
Yes, you thinking they'll delete your chars is to their advantage to get you to keep paying, especially single engineer types with cash hemmorhaging from their pockets. But a character deleted is an account that'll never be reactivated. And the company is willing to pony up a few cents per account, in perpetuity, on the chance you might reactivate at some time in the future.
EQ, SWG, WoW, CoH, and UO have all had me reactivate my accounts at least once, and I have cancelled them again, too. Only CoH still exists (or will, as of tonight after I cancel WoW for the 2nd time.)
It's interesting that I'm cancelling WoW for the second time today, just as the expansion pack comes out. (I prefer the high speed, 3D travel, and feelings of being powerful, of City of Heroes.)
And no, you cannot have my gold, anymore than you can have the gold equivalents of my cancelled EQ, Horizons, DaoC, SWG, or MxO accounts. I will, however, make a quick login with each to pilfer all the returned items from failed auctions and store them in the backpack/bank to prevent their perma-evaporation.
Yes, there is some overlap, i.e. duplication in his explorations of the world, so he includes that time in the time to get to 60, but not in the time to explore the whole world. For a deeper understanding, see also, "kill 61 million boars..."
> It also means DVD install discs, ha, even bluray aren't
> data discs in practice. Of course there will be exceptions,
> but video didn't kill the radio star. Maybe maimed.
Thanks, Towlie. Get back to your doobie.
It's not illegal to stand on the corner and say, "That house over there is selling cocaine for $10."
It is illegal to stand on the corner and say, "That house over there is selling cocaine for $10." when you are hired by the cocaine house.
So are these people saying, "Product X sux because of this vulnerabily xyz here, exploitable via abc", and that's that, or are they saying, "Product X sux because of blah blah blah, and company X, could you pay me $10 or I'll release the info?"
NO, this is going the wrong way. We expect you should have been prosecuted for child pornography (taking pictures of of a girl under 18, namely, yourself), distribution of child pornography (showing them to each other), and statutory rape (lifting the shirt of a 17 year old girl, namely, yourself.)
Oh my god, three prosecutions for child pornography and child rape! Ooh, imagine the votes from voters for me this fall!
20 year jail sentences, concurrently! If you had been jailed in 1970 as you should have, you'd be just three years away from completion of your second 20 year term. Too bad they can't force you to register on the sex offenders list along with guys who soddomized four year olds, you sick bastards.
Sounds like you should have reported them so a prosecutor could prosecute the girls for statutory rape for peeling up their own shirts, then force them to register on the sex offenders list for life.
We've gotta nip this in the bud! So to speak...
This just in: PITTSBURGH (AP) -- An 18 year old boy has been arrested for drinking alcohol. Although he's a legal adult, the prosecutor said, "we still want to hold him legally old enough and responsible for drinking something we have deemed him not old enough to be responsible to drink." When asked about the logical inconsistency, the prosecutor said, "Take it up with the voters this fall."
No, but is treating some horny 23 year old to a 20 year sentence because he had a photo of an anonymous 17 year old naked in a deleted cache area amongst thousands of others of of-age women, as if he was a violent raper of four year olds legitimately considered overreaching?
I recall a case I watched on TV, pre-Internet, where they had a secret film of a guy taking the child pr0n out of his mail box, then they swooped in and arrested him on posession of it. They had suspected he was a child pr0n loving bad guy, and just mailed him the stuff out of the blue, and swooped in before he could even open it.
Onward Christian soldiers, marching as to war!
Prosecutors are both lawyers and politicians. Destroying lives to advance their career is something that doesn't keep them awake at night.
> 2) people should be responsible for anything that shows up on their computers
Just like a driver of a car should be jailed for anything any passenger happens to be carrying in their backpack or pockets.
Just like an ocean crossing freighter worth a billion dollars should be seized by the government because one merchant marine had a doobie in his pocket and there's a zero tolerance rule.
F'ing brilliant, dude.
Yes, the first place an awesome hacker who knows child porn scam and trojan tricks inside and out (but is otherwise truly innocent) wants to go is to work for a prosecutor who has an itchy trigger finger to get people thrown in the clink for 20-to-life because a cache has a cryptic picture of an unknown woman's coincidentally 17 year old boob from a popup 3 clicks deep away from an images.google.com search for "George W. Bush awesome president".
What if they keep their gun unloaded and locked up, with ammo locked up in a different place, both high up on shelves, and someone breaks into their house, gets the stuff out (they're very good safecrackers), and then hands the loaded gun to a child and then harps on the child until he shoots himself?
Should the parent go to jail for the rest of their life for that?
Or not limiting the police recruitment pool to people with sub-120 IQs.
...er, at least until someone better at swaying the masses with idiotic promises comes along and he gets to be the one to stand in the way of all progress pending bribes both illegal and legal (political donations) to get the officials out of the way.
We now return you to your completely inadequate Classical Political Worldviews brought to you by the same people who told you there was a big bogey man in the sky.
Although it is hardly a new concept -- for millenia dictators have been using Total Criminalization(tm) as a way to get vicious assistants at every level of government. By making it such that someone must be bribed to get out of the way to get anything done, you gain a lot of supporters in government for your cause. It works wonders for everyone from Hitler to communists to heavy-handed socialism. And the best part? The bribed officials have done something illegal you can lord over them !!!
Yeah, it's good to be the king.
They might just be referring to ad pictures still in the cache -- remember that the gubmint has no problem treating cached (or even deleted) stuff as "still there" and therefore "technically you are in posession of it".
Remember, these are the same slimeballs who scrape the walls for marijuana smoke residue, then claim that residue, containing the chemicals is acual marijuana you are in posession of. Not evidence you had it at some time in the past, mind you. Actual posession since you are in posession of the walls.
These are the same slimeballs who claim the new "war on terror" snooping things are to detect terrorists and only that, then immediately apply it to other crimes under the "What? What you lookin' at, pal? There's no legal requirement to use this only for terrorists, read the law" bull-sh**.
> the ruse is busted.
I was unaware wanting to earn every last cent from your own intellectual property was a "ruse".
If making it slightly difficult for you to create backups keeps people from easily doing massive copying and distribution without permission, isn't that a fair trade-off?
> frequenting the rave scene and shouting at anyone smoking anywhere near him
That's like frequenting the Playboy mansion and shouting at anyone flopping out their tits anywhere near him.
It all comes together now as to why he's broke -- he's an idiot.
Worse than that, you can attack a group of three monsters on patrol (e.g. the goody goody centaurs near the tauren lands), quick-slaughter one and run away before the remaining 2 can kill you. Run far enough and they give up and return to what they were doing, and where, which means they march back to where they were on their patrol point and continue.
So you see the idiotic spectacle of supposedly intelligent and goody two-shoes creatures reassembling on top of the corpse of their now dead companion, and ignoring him and continuing on with their patrol. Not aborting the patrol and returning to base because 1. they're under attack and 2. they need to report, which is the entire point of the patrol given they don't have walkie talkies.
Stupid. But CoH is no better with you attacking bad guys in bases while their buddies stand 30 feet away and do nothing, even though they clearly see and hear the fight.
Why are there no "hard" online games? Yeah, I know the market for competent people is mighty small compared to that of bumbling buffoons, but some of use want an MMORPG equivalent to Serious Sam on Serious mode.
The original Quake CTF mod had an option to eject a pack of ammo, where it would spin on the ground like a regular pack you stumbled across. It was intended to be used in clan matches for players to restock the defenders guarding the base with ammo not available in or near the base. But you could eject empty bags, too, and after about 30 or so, even the best video cards back then slowed to a few FPS or worse. A quick (as much as possible given the scenario) run through them picked them all up and fixed things.