Suspicious? Let's see. "The solar system"/supermassive black hole is about 16 light-hours across.
57600 light-seconds
10713600000 miles
The sun is 800,000 miles across. So, width-wise, the solar system is
13392 suns wide
Volume is the cube of the linear width, so the solar system could fit
2,401,797,132,288 sunc
in its volume.
Although the density of the core of the sun is very high, I'm thinking it's not so high that "billions" of suns would make such a volume be denser than water when that volume could hold two and a half trillion suns just to be as dense as one sun.
It may be more on the order of as dense as a helium baloon, or even lighter.
Quite frankly, I'd rather visit one of Heinlein's planets. If I'm going to go to a world engaged in a planetary riot, I'd rather it be an anonymous, mask-wearing, Satyrnaliac sex riot.
> This is only a guess based on the very limited data we have.
To brutally point out exactly how limited our data is, all data shows that, for rocky planets in a rougly Earth-like orbit (liquid water), fully 100% will develop not just life, but intelligent life.
> "As reported in early September, even former Star Trek actors are saying that CBS has kicked Rick > Berman off the Trek bandwagon. This helps to allay the fears of those who say that 'they' will > screw up this movie as 'they' have been doing for the past several years. As Anthony Pascale put > it to me, however, 'There is no they any more. Everyone who has worked on Star Trek previously, > from the top executives at the studio to the guy who sweeps the floor on-set, is gone. There's > now a totally different production team running Star Trek. This is what people have been asking > for now for years.'"
"...although," he continued, "nobody's been asking for 'young Kirk' 'for years', so I really don't know why half their head is still up their @$$."
Ahh, yes, "the younger years", that member of the mystical, aeuteur-wannabe, executive producer-driven triumvirate of craptastic ideas, along with "the girls all get up and do a dance to a Motown tune" and "it must have a giant mechanical spider in it!"
At least Batmans and Supermans have been able to dodge "make it more campy" for the last 30 years.
> At the same time, however, how can you know that this process does not > occur when you go to sleep? That the "I", the "ego", is merely the current > incarantion of "you" in the RAM of your biological hardware, to be replaced > at the next boot (sleep) cycle, by a copy from longer-term storage.
My own favorite image is that the conscious mind is like the flame on a candle. Go to sleep, the flame goes out. Light it up, it starts burning again. Wake up, the consciousness instantiates, running on all this unconscious "hardware", with data loaded out of the long term storage.
So in that sense, you do die when you go unconscious, never to wake again.
The only monkey wrench in this is that my memories of five minutes ago, of that contiguous "me", are "in the same manner" as my memories of what I did yesterday, the "other me" that died when I fell asleep last night.
So either the concept is wrong, or the "continuous now 'you'" is itself a chimera, and you "die" and are reborn every fraction of a second. But that also seems wrong.
> People tend to be incoherent at the borders of sleep (before and after), and dreams > DO significantly affect your outlook/thought process.....
Dreams could be fully conscious experiences that are not (directly) remembered most of the time. I think it's your brain practicing recalling and analyzing significant situations and worries for the purpose of planning and remembering. That it doesn't apply logic, but rather is just associational, relates to the nature of the way the brain primarily operates. So, lit-candle-wise, it's yet another "copy of you" that exists for some time before being snuffed out again as part of the 90 minute sleep cycle.
A cell is like a juggler who has 30 billion balls up in the air -- cut off oxygen or glucose or whatnot, and the balls start falling. Once they've all fallen, it's a bitch (the scientific term for "horribly complicated process") to get them all back up in the air again, especially if by that time the juggler's arms have fallen off.
"Sure, ma'am. Just give me...ah, $1000, yes, I'll fax it right over to him. Be aware, though, that if there is a power failure or transmission failure, the money will be gone for good."
> When Captain Kirk gets beamed down to the surface of a planet, where > does all that matter come from which constitutes his body in the new location?
The actual atoms are beamed down and re-assembled. I think there's been some technobabble recently upgrading personal transporters to work at the quantum level rather than the atomic particle level, whereas the massive teleportors for the cargo holds still operate on the atomic level. But the principle is the same, unlike this new phenomenon.
I would not be comfortable with this type of teleportation -- it's possible I would simply die, and cease to exist, and the "teleported me" would be a newly-created copy. Oh, it would swear it was the real me, and that it just used to exist right over there, but there's no way to tell the difference from his point of view or a 3rd person's. But I might know, or never know, as the case may be.
I've seen several Sci-Fi universes ("Giants", "Collapsium") which have teleporters that are even more vicious -- they just disassemble the thing at the atomic level to learn its structure, beam the info, and reassemble, brute-force, out of local atoms. Those universes I'd definitely suggest you were killed and a copy created.
Might I suggest Larry Niven's "The Mote in God's Eye", where he'll introduce you to a species that would pwn the Borg?
In fact, they'd pwn anything this side of the Organians and Q. Imagine a species where billions have all the Mary Sue power of Reed Richards and Batman rolled into one. For example, they just barely couldn't whip together a heart-lung machine out of junk in time to save the brain in a newly-severed head.
Let's see, going with demonstrated feats only, a guy (Beyonder) who can get rid of 100+lbs of excess fat so the gold diggers falling all over him will be truly hot for him, and not just faking it, vs. a guy (Doom) who's in good shape, but is scarred up, which, I guess, would be pretty studly to girls, and also has billions and is a head of state.
So one guy could make girls lust for him even if they didn't want to, and the other could transfer his mind into a girl and go play the proverbial "stand in front of a mirror" game.
Then came "Secret Wars III", wherein it turns out the Beyonder was an incomplete cosmic cube, so he merged with the Molecule Man, the 2nd most powerful entity, who's tiny sliver of cube power made him able to slap Odin around.
Then the Molecule Man separated, but first gave himself a non-cosmic-cube power source similar to his old-school, no-organic-molecules power.
Then much later on, the Molecule Man got mad, forced the old Disco Stu Beyonder to re-form out of the chick, then laid some wh00p@$$ down on him, then let him go again, just to prove he could do it.
But by that time, nobody gave a rat's ass anymore, so you might as well have had Jubilee beat up the Beyonder, who had moved to the "Mary Sue cannon fodder" stage of existence.
> Pure Energy or that female form, same problem. Hell, at one point the > Beyonder was a Universe on his own complete with habitable planets.
A universe many times the size of this one, which has four hundred billion galaxies of a hundred billion stars each.
Those of you who dabble in physics would realize how god awful much energy that would be (the Molecule Man once hit him with a blast that would have "slagged several billion dimensions").
Then comes the worst retcon since Victoria Principle dreamed the entire previous season of Dynasty or Dallas or whatever it was: Galactus, a planetary-level guy, "let the Beyonder beat him".
Presumably Galactus also let Dr. Doom ream him since Doom couldn't beat the Beyonder after opening a can of whoop@$$ on Galactus.
Yeah, a guy who could reconfigure the physics of the entire universe, including such that Galactus wouldn't "hunger anymore" couldn't beat Galactus.
> I aide a fellow hero in felling a dastardly villian. He whines that I'm kill stealing.
All games suffer from this. And the solution is identical: get in a group
And, ironically, this game suffers from it the least since once in awhile you encounter someone who does realize a hero would help another hero, roleplaying-wise.
> Oh look, that lady is getting her handbag stolen! Oh... nevermind, > the bad guy is too low level for me to get anything out of it.
And, to quote The Oracle, here's what'll really bake your noodle: would the crime-in-progress even exist if you hadn't just run over there? Perhaps the way to minimize crime, city-wide, would be for all the heroes to hang out under Atlas.
> Travel powers but no vehicles...
Would the FF's rocket or Fantasticar exist, or the Avenger's quinjet, etc., if they all had high-speed, built-in travel powers?
BTW, supposedly there's a jetpack you can get via some special package or something, a reward.
> Give me a damn bicycle or something.
I'll take a 60+mph, true 3D-capable, built-in travel power to a horse from another game that costs an arm and a leg and lets you gallop at about 1.5x human jogging speed, thanks.
> No alter ego.
Once you get to level 20, you open up another costume slot. Knock yourself out with a t-shirt and jeans or a business suit.
> One other problem the game has (and probably still has) > was that there were just too many damn heroes in one city.
It's explained, roleplaying-wise. Paragon city is overrun with supervillains, so the government pays poor people to live there and all the heroes congregate because that's where all the villains are. No stupider than Clark = Superman with glasses.
And is that any different from WoW being overrun with magical orcs and trolls and guys with swords? I guarantee you my broadsword scrapper from CoH is 10x the fighter any sword wielder from any fantasy MMORPG is. She would easily take out any 5 high end fighters, sorry, tanks, sorry, warriors, whatever, from WoW or EQ. Maybe a caster hitting me with ice comet or whatever might 1-shot me, if Dull Pain weren't active, but they'd last about 2 seconds after a built-up headsplitter+disembowel.
Raidspeak: Josephus the Ironbottom: Ok, only Rockdude tanks Galactus, as he's optimized for D against matter maniuplation, physical, and energy. Everybody else stay behind the pizza van unless you're a psi defender or spamming heals on the tank.
Raidspeak: Wolferine: u kan lik my ironbllz, dragonlord
Raidspeak: Josephus the Ironbottom: Also, please don't use raidspeak for anything but listening to or responding to raid instructions
Raidspeak: Dragon Lord Frankie: eat me wolfie
Raidspeak: Josephus the Ironbottom: Ok, all psi who are NOT spam-protecting Rockdude now start hitting Galactus with Antimatter Inversion, and keep it up. No pets! Unless it's a molie or a ff herbie from the DVD edition.
** The Tuffster dies to a physics law change from Galactus **
Raidspeak: The Tuffster: Oop, hehe got too close.
Raidspeak: Josephus the Ironbottom: Please don't accidentally die as each death lessens the amount of "life" on earth and makes Galactus madder, and thus harder to hit.
Raidspeak: The Tuffster: sry
Raidspeak: Josephus the Ironbottom: Do NOT try and shoot webs or throw hammers at Galactus since they just bounce off. juggernaut tankers, do not try to infini-punch him, either, as that will not work
Raidspeak: Josephus the Ironbottom: Ok, now he's mezzed, street-levellers and wagglers dump as much damage as possible now, psi switch to extend spells stuck, healers sap life.
Raidspeak: Wolferine: FU lord u suxxors I did not do that im a pro at these raids ive been on like three thousand of them at least, at least no sh**
Ok, IANAP, but I thought the BEC was the result of supercooling atoms until their temperature, and hence momentum, was virtually 0. Because of quantum conjugate pairs, their position's uncertainty therefore must skyrocket. This bizarre, near-macroscopic "thing" was the "condensate". That Wikipedia article mentions none of this. Am I even more clueless than I already know I am, or is the article just poorly written, like a computer reference manual, only useful to people who know the subject backwards and forwards?
It'll probably be like that, but tuned to "Marvel style" powers. Like, in addition to travel powers like super speed, super jump, flight, and teleport, they'll add a Quake-like grappling-hook style power, with skins overlain for "Spiderman" webs or "Mr. Fantastic stretchy arms". Or the good old Grappling hook, Daredevel-style, of course.
At least the "claws/regen" scrapper should be there, thank god. I cannot stand "fighting classes" in other games now that the scrapper has appeared on the scene. Standing there like a tough guy holding a wiffle bat, uh uh, no more. Sorry EQ and WoW. Not going back.
Yes, you are correct about SWG semi-tanking and MxO totally tanking, but that's because the gameplay was awful. And WoW would have been awful had it had lousy gameplay (which, btw, I think it does, I didn't get past mid 20s on my highest. But I played EQ and DaoC and AC until I was ready to barf from fantasy.) And SWG, besides people grinding for level after level killing giraffes out in the field, how Star Warsy and fun, had the insurmountable problem of how to let everybody be a Jedi without letting everybody be a Jedi, not to mention how to let a Jedi be a Jedi while still making them have a tough time with rats and giraffes in the fields.
Nah, go play a scrapper in CoH if you wanna feel like a Jedi. Or Boba Fett, for that matter. Or a real swordsman (broadsword, katana).
I recall in City of Heroes seeing many Wollverines, Wolverine. -- note period following name, xWolverinex xxWolverinnexx and, the highly irritating "Wolferine", who was, no, not a claws/regen scrapper, but a defender (= healer = empath = cleric).
Worse, once in awhile you'd find a "clue", and "CLUE FOUND!" would pop up and then disappear. So you go look in list of clue descriptions, and there'd be three dozen in there, with no way to know which one was the one you just found.
By the way, the "Spiderman problem", webslinging, was solved long ago with the Quake (I) grappling hook. However it required skill and practice to "websling" through missions. Plus it was fast.
Therefore I predict this power will be a pale imitation of either Quake or the Spiderman comic. Ooh, I'm "webslinging" at 14 miles per hour, with some bizarre air control that has little to do with normal momentum-and-gravity physics.
But at least the "tanks" will be among the most heavy hitters. No "Hulk" standing there who punches for less damage than the scrappers Spiderman and Wolverine.
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Suspicious? Let's see. "The solar system"/supermassive black hole is about 16 light-hours across.
57600 light-seconds
10713600000 miles
The sun is 800,000 miles across. So, width-wise, the solar system is
13392 suns wide
Volume is the cube of the linear width, so the solar system could fit
2,401,797,132,288 sunc
in its volume.
Although the density of the core of the sun is very high, I'm thinking it's not so high that "billions" of suns would make such a volume be denser than water when that volume could hold two and a half trillion suns just to be as dense as one sun.
It may be more on the order of as dense as a helium baloon, or even lighter.
> Asimov's Nightfall Planet
Quite frankly, I'd rather visit one of Heinlein's planets. If I'm going to go to a world engaged in a planetary riot, I'd rather it be an anonymous, mask-wearing, Satyrnaliac sex riot.
> This is only a guess based on the very limited data we have.
To brutally point out exactly how limited our data is, all data shows that, for rocky planets in a rougly Earth-like orbit (liquid water), fully 100% will develop not just life, but intelligent life.
> "As reported in early September, even former Star Trek actors are saying that CBS has kicked Rick
> Berman off the Trek bandwagon. This helps to allay the fears of those who say that 'they' will
> screw up this movie as 'they' have been doing for the past several years. As Anthony Pascale put
> it to me, however, 'There is no they any more. Everyone who has worked on Star Trek previously,
> from the top executives at the studio to the guy who sweeps the floor on-set, is gone. There's
> now a totally different production team running Star Trek. This is what people have been asking
> for now for years.'"
"...although," he continued, "nobody's been asking for 'young Kirk' 'for years', so I really don't know why half their head is still up their @$$."
Ahh, yes, "the younger years", that member of the mystical, aeuteur-wannabe, executive producer-driven triumvirate of craptastic ideas, along with "the girls all get up and do a dance to a Motown tune" and "it must have a giant mechanical spider in it!"
At least Batmans and Supermans have been able to dodge "make it more campy" for the last 30 years.
> At the same time, however, how can you know that this process does not
> occur when you go to sleep? That the "I", the "ego", is merely the current
> incarantion of "you" in the RAM of your biological hardware, to be replaced
> at the next boot (sleep) cycle, by a copy from longer-term storage.
My own favorite image is that the conscious mind is like the flame on a candle. Go to sleep, the flame goes out. Light it up, it starts burning again. Wake up, the consciousness instantiates, running on all this unconscious "hardware", with data loaded out of the long term storage.
So in that sense, you do die when you go unconscious, never to wake again.
The only monkey wrench in this is that my memories of five minutes ago, of that contiguous "me", are "in the same manner" as my memories of what I did yesterday, the "other me" that died when I fell asleep last night.
So either the concept is wrong, or the "continuous now 'you'" is itself a chimera, and you "die" and are reborn every fraction of a second. But that also seems wrong.
> People tend to be incoherent at the borders of sleep (before and after), and dreams
> DO significantly affect your outlook/thought process.....
Dreams could be fully conscious experiences that are not (directly) remembered most of the time. I think it's your brain practicing recalling and analyzing significant situations and worries for the purpose of planning and remembering. That it doesn't apply logic, but rather is just associational, relates to the nature of the way the brain primarily operates. So, lit-candle-wise, it's yet another "copy of you" that exists for some time before being snuffed out again as part of the 90 minute sleep cycle.
> Why wouldn't grandfather have a clue what quantum level means?
FU! I used to watch "Quantum Leap" all the time! It was on Sci-Fi, one or two numbers below the Charmed channel.
A cell is like a juggler who has 30 billion balls up in the air -- cut off oxygen or glucose or whatnot, and the balls start falling. Once they've all fallen, it's a bitch (the scientific term for "horribly complicated process") to get them all back up in the air again, especially if by that time the juggler's arms have fallen off.
"Sure, ma'am. Just give me...ah, $1000, yes, I'll fax it right over to him. Be aware, though, that if there is a power failure or transmission failure, the money will be gone for good."
> This of course, is Star Trek, and has precisely zero to do with real physics.
Much like how Kirk's love life has precisely zero to do with the average Slashdotter's real love life.
> When Captain Kirk gets beamed down to the surface of a planet, where
> does all that matter come from which constitutes his body in the new location?
The actual atoms are beamed down and re-assembled. I think there's been some technobabble recently upgrading personal transporters to work at the quantum level rather than the atomic particle level, whereas the massive teleportors for the cargo holds still operate on the atomic level. But the principle is the same, unlike this new phenomenon.
I would not be comfortable with this type of teleportation -- it's possible I would simply die, and cease to exist, and the "teleported me" would be a newly-created copy. Oh, it would swear it was the real me, and that it just used to exist right over there, but there's no way to tell the difference from his point of view or a 3rd person's. But I might know, or never know, as the case may be.
I've seen several Sci-Fi universes ("Giants", "Collapsium") which have teleporters that are even more vicious -- they just disassemble the thing at the atomic level to learn its structure, beam the info, and reassemble, brute-force, out of local atoms. Those universes I'd definitely suggest you were killed and a copy created.
Might I suggest Larry Niven's "The Mote in God's Eye", where he'll introduce you to a species that would pwn the Borg?
In fact, they'd pwn anything this side of the Organians and Q. Imagine a species where billions have all the Mary Sue power of Reed Richards and Batman rolled into one. For example, they just barely couldn't whip together a heart-lung machine out of junk in time to save the brain in a newly-severed head.
> Again yes. The speed you "teleport" is restricted by the speed of light though.
> So it'll still take a couple of minutes to get to Mars.
"Enterprise, what we got back didn't live long...fortunately."
Ok, all you TechnGandalfs, just be careful when playing with:
# teleport -fR *.*
or you'll really f*ck things up!
Let's see, going with demonstrated feats only, a guy (Beyonder) who can get rid of 100+lbs of excess fat so the gold diggers falling all over him will be truly hot for him, and not just faking it, vs. a guy (Doom) who's in good shape, but is scarred up, which, I guess, would be pretty studly to girls, and also has billions and is a head of state.
So one guy could make girls lust for him even if they didn't want to, and the other could transfer his mind into a girl and go play the proverbial "stand in front of a mirror" game.
Eh, either way, life wouldn't suck.
Then came "Secret Wars III", wherein it turns out the Beyonder was an incomplete cosmic cube, so he merged with the Molecule Man, the 2nd most powerful entity, who's tiny sliver of cube power made him able to slap Odin around.
Then the Molecule Man separated, but first gave himself a non-cosmic-cube power source similar to his old-school, no-organic-molecules power.
Then much later on, the Molecule Man got mad, forced the old Disco Stu Beyonder to re-form out of the chick, then laid some wh00p@$$ down on him, then let him go again, just to prove he could do it.
But by that time, nobody gave a rat's ass anymore, so you might as well have had Jubilee beat up the Beyonder, who had moved to the "Mary Sue cannon fodder" stage of existence.
> Pure Energy or that female form, same problem. Hell, at one point the
> Beyonder was a Universe on his own complete with habitable planets.
A universe many times the size of this one, which has four hundred billion galaxies of a hundred billion stars each.
Those of you who dabble in physics would realize how god awful much energy that would be (the Molecule Man once hit him with a blast that would have "slagged several billion dimensions").
Then comes the worst retcon since Victoria Principle dreamed the entire previous season of Dynasty or Dallas or whatever it was: Galactus, a planetary-level guy, "let the Beyonder beat him".
Presumably Galactus also let Dr. Doom ream him since Doom couldn't beat the Beyonder after opening a can of whoop@$$ on Galactus.
Yeah, a guy who could reconfigure the physics of the entire universe, including such that Galactus wouldn't "hunger anymore" couldn't beat Galactus.
> I aide a fellow hero in felling a dastardly villian. He whines that I'm kill stealing.
All games suffer from this. And the solution is identical: get in a group
And, ironically, this game suffers from it the least since once in awhile you encounter someone who does realize a hero would help another hero, roleplaying-wise.
> Oh look, that lady is getting her handbag stolen! Oh... nevermind,
> the bad guy is too low level for me to get anything out of it.
And, to quote The Oracle, here's what'll really bake your noodle: would the crime-in-progress even exist if you hadn't just run over there? Perhaps the way to minimize crime, city-wide, would be for all the heroes to hang out under Atlas.
> Travel powers but no vehicles...
Would the FF's rocket or Fantasticar exist, or the Avenger's quinjet, etc., if they all had high-speed, built-in travel powers?
BTW, supposedly there's a jetpack you can get via some special package or something, a reward.
> Give me a damn bicycle or something.
I'll take a 60+mph, true 3D-capable, built-in travel power to a horse from another game that costs an arm and a leg and lets you gallop at about 1.5x human jogging speed, thanks.
> No alter ego.
Once you get to level 20, you open up another costume slot. Knock yourself out with a t-shirt and jeans or a business suit.
> One other problem the game has (and probably still has)
> was that there were just too many damn heroes in one city.
It's explained, roleplaying-wise. Paragon city is overrun with supervillains, so the government pays poor people to live there and all the heroes congregate because that's where all the villains are. No stupider than Clark = Superman with glasses.
And is that any different from WoW being overrun with magical orcs and trolls and guys with swords? I guarantee you my broadsword scrapper from CoH is 10x the fighter any sword wielder from any fantasy MMORPG is. She would easily take out any 5 high end fighters, sorry, tanks, sorry, warriors, whatever, from WoW or EQ. Maybe a caster hitting me with ice comet or whatever might 1-shot me, if Dull Pain weren't active, but they'd last about 2 seconds after a built-up headsplitter+disembowel.
Raidspeak: Josephus the Ironbottom: Ok, only Rockdude tanks Galactus, as he's optimized for D against matter maniuplation, physical, and energy. Everybody else stay behind the pizza van unless you're a psi defender or spamming heals on the tank.
Raidspeak: Wolferine: u kan lik my ironbllz, dragonlord
Raidspeak: Josephus the Ironbottom: Also, please don't use raidspeak for anything but listening to or responding to raid instructions
Raidspeak: Dragon Lord Frankie: eat me wolfie
Raidspeak: Josephus the Ironbottom: Ok, all psi who are NOT spam-protecting Rockdude now start hitting Galactus with Antimatter Inversion, and keep it up. No pets! Unless it's a molie or a ff herbie from the DVD edition.
** The Tuffster dies to a physics law change from Galactus **
Raidspeak: The Tuffster: Oop, hehe got too close.
Raidspeak: Josephus the Ironbottom: Please don't accidentally die as each death lessens the amount of "life" on earth and makes Galactus madder, and thus harder to hit.
Raidspeak: The Tuffster: sry
Raidspeak: Josephus the Ironbottom: Do NOT try and shoot webs or throw hammers at Galactus since they just bounce off. juggernaut tankers, do not try to infini-punch him, either, as that will not work
Raidspeak: Josephus the Ironbottom: Ok, now he's mezzed, street-levellers and wagglers dump as much damage as possible now, psi switch to extend spells stuck, healers sap life.
Raidspeak: Wolferine: FU lord u suxxors I did not do that im a pro at these raids ive been on like three thousand of them at least, at least no sh**
> Just in case you need a brush up on BEC, like I did, check out the Wikipedia article on Bose-Einstein condensation
Ok, IANAP, but I thought the BEC was the result of supercooling atoms until their temperature, and hence momentum, was virtually 0. Because of quantum conjugate pairs, their position's uncertainty therefore must skyrocket. This bizarre, near-macroscopic "thing" was the "condensate". That Wikipedia article mentions none of this. Am I even more clueless than I already know I am, or is the article just poorly written, like a computer reference manual, only useful to people who know the subject backwards and forwards?
It'll probably be like that, but tuned to "Marvel style" powers. Like, in addition to travel powers like super speed, super jump, flight, and teleport, they'll add a Quake-like grappling-hook style power, with skins overlain for "Spiderman" webs or "Mr. Fantastic stretchy arms". Or the good old Grappling hook, Daredevel-style, of course.
At least the "claws/regen" scrapper should be there, thank god. I cannot stand "fighting classes" in other games now that the scrapper has appeared on the scene. Standing there like a tough guy holding a wiffle bat, uh uh, no more. Sorry EQ and WoW. Not going back.
Yes, you are correct about SWG semi-tanking and MxO totally tanking, but that's because the gameplay was awful. And WoW would have been awful had it had lousy gameplay (which, btw, I think it does, I didn't get past mid 20s on my highest. But I played EQ and DaoC and AC until I was ready to barf from fantasy.) And SWG, besides people grinding for level after level killing giraffes out in the field, how Star Warsy and fun, had the insurmountable problem of how to let everybody be a Jedi without letting everybody be a Jedi, not to mention how to let a Jedi be a Jedi while still making them have a tough time with rats and giraffes in the fields.
Nah, go play a scrapper in CoH if you wanna feel like a Jedi. Or Boba Fett, for that matter. Or a real swordsman (broadsword, katana).
I recall in City of Heroes seeing many Wollverines, Wolverine. -- note period following name, xWolverinex xxWolverinnexx and, the highly irritating "Wolferine", who was, no, not a claws/regen scrapper, but a defender (= healer = empath = cleric).
"Ok, tanks over here to get buffed. Look out for the Molemen!"
"Rick Jones!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11"
"NO! Ahhh, *$@%*@&!"
Worse, once in awhile you'd find a "clue", and "CLUE FOUND!" would pop up and then disappear. So you go look in list of clue descriptions, and there'd be three dozen in there, with no way to know which one was the one you just found.
So you skipped it.
By the way, the "Spiderman problem", webslinging, was solved long ago with the Quake (I) grappling hook. However it required skill and practice to "websling" through missions. Plus it was fast.
Therefore I predict this power will be a pale imitation of either Quake or the Spiderman comic. Ooh, I'm "webslinging" at 14 miles per hour, with some bizarre air control that has little to do with normal momentum-and-gravity physics.
But at least the "tanks" will be among the most heavy hitters. No "Hulk" standing there who punches for less damage than the scrappers Spiderman and Wolverine.