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The way it is now, its highly unlikely that linux can seriously threaten that high-end market. Linux, in its current configuration and direction, will never be able to support the threaded processing capability Solaris currently is able to do with its hardware platform. That is, unless Beowulf style cluster computing can match the price/performance of an integrated multi-cpu machine, and I don't see how that's possible with all the hardware redundancy (PS, networking, cases, etc.) and software-bound "cruft". (Convert linux to an L4 based microkernel design, NUMA, and new/better threaded support model, and then non-Sparc may have a better shot...)
Their problem is that they used to have a lock on the low-end server market, the market was taken by linux, and they're not getting it back (without a paradigm-shift level product; its not happening). That means to grow, they have to go beyond its high-end, boutique product market. (In business, if you're not growing a market, you're dying.)
Solaris is not about marketing-driven differentiation. The features in an upscalable, reliable high-end server is only realized (commercially) in Solaris. (IBM may be better in some ways to Sun's product, but its product lines are too wedded to the past to be able to suck market share from Sun (yet).)
Current Java licensing conditions has to do with their plan of using Java to help their marketing strategy for *their* products. If they open Java up to be "shanghied" by any competitor (Microsoft, IBM), java becomes valueless to them. I do not beleive that they have a good strategy, but its their "ball" and its not up to you to tell them to go give away their billion dollar franchise just so you can let your geek flag fly.
Nor does it benefit them to aid organizations in destroying their marketing strategy by putting out a competing operating system which can disrupt the strategy.
If you really felt strongly enough about the issue to boycott their hardware, you may as well be consistent and boycott Java.
Yes, Sun is only out there to make a buck, and in the big picture, the "We'll go the extra mile for developers" is a bit disingenuous. But you are not entitled to insist they commit commercial suicide for your benefit, anymore than someone posing the suggestion that "the world would be a better place if you weren't in it, so why not kill yourself".
1. Sun pays fee to SCO to open its code. It's quite apparent that Sun is opening its code to compete on a more level playing field with Linux, regardless of the specifics of GPL vs. Sun code licensing terms.
1) You're deluded. Open Sourcing the kernel code has nothing to do with competing with Linux. The kernel code is way too slick to be expecting Joe Hacker to add value to it. Opening the kernel code is so that their customers, big financial institutions (or software houses that cater to them) have access to the kernel source so they can add value to the kernel.
2) The extra money they're sending SCO is chicken feed compared to the legal bills SCO will have to eventually payout. As a delaying strategy, it sucks, because it looks like SCO will run out of legal gas very soon (like two years).
So when those US jets are dropping ordinance in Falluja (A city with a 300K people), the bombs are designed to exclusively home in on insurgents or not blow up when noncombatants are in its blast radius?
Sure. (Dumbass.)
And when multinational corporate news networks report that soldiers shot up the occupants of a car at a checkpoint, that's a flat out lie? Or do those dead civilians not count?
You have to be kidding. An apache or a SAM could take it out. And once it goes stratospheric, you lose the advantage of close ground support. You're better off with JSTARS patrolling the area.
At the end of the day, the marriage license is just a fucking piece of paper
Kind of an oxymoron when you think about it. There's a whole lot less fucking after the paper is signed. Unless you mean that figuratively. In which case there is a whole lot of fucking over both parties.
I don't get it. The Bible-thumpers support an administration that commits sodomy on prisoners? Do they think that makes them more pleasing to God's eye?
1) Its a shame that Borland waffled on C Builder support. I think it will really hurt them because it will hurt their other products. Delphi is hardly a world-reknown development tool. Now when programming shops consider what platform they are going to build upon, this non-ISO environment will certainly look unattractive; seeing how the company treats one of their formerly popular development packages.
2) Who really gives a frell? Its not like people can't do C++ anymore. Microsoft puts out a perfectly reasonable commercial developer interface. "It doesn't do this, it doesn't do that, I don't like the Evil Empire, blah blah blah..." Nothing is perfect, and if anything, Borland's product probably had more flaws. If you don't like a commercial monopoly, use crappy(?) open source tools.
The business environment is about reality, and reality bites. The reality is that Borland doesn't make the kind of money it needs to be viable corporate entity in this environment. They decided they don't have the money to support CBX or they need to put their money on some other savior product. Lets hope I'm wrong, they're right, and they live another day. If not, they're gonna greet Darwin anyway, and the market will have spoken. But face it, CBX offered nothing that made it head over heels superior to MS VS. Stop crying in your beer, unless that's the excuse you're using to drink...
At least you got an automated response. When I send phishing email notices to the FBI NY office, I don't even get an acknowlegement. (Although I got a nice phone call once from the Agent-In-Charge out in Hawaii, when I tracked down a phishing server out there. Too bad I lost my cellphone before I could get the voicemail off the number.)
are a major tool for any company that has to do billing for an entire country
It was also part of their research into automation of telephone network switching. Back in the early '70's, phone systems used physical relay switches and human operators to route calls throughout the country. Computers is what changed that physical hardware system into a "digital" system. Ironically enough, I hear it was HP UNIX systems that won the lion share of that specific market.
If there is any confusion as to why Keyes is >40% down in the polls, all they need to do is download and watch his interview on an Illinois local news show.
Speaking as a lefty NY liberal, I have nothing but sympathy for the Illinois Republican Party.
Q1) Was the rationale for invading Iraq because Saddamn would imminently come into possesssion WMD? If so, what proof can you present to the world?
Q2) Was the rationale for invading Iraq because the Iraqi people needed to be liberated from Saddam? If so, why haven't we invaded North Korea?
Q3) Was the rationale for invading Iraq because Iraq presented a threat to Gulf Oil? If so, why have they not invaded an Arab state since '91? What is the justification to invade Iraq if our military presence alone was sufficient to keep it at bay? If it was insufficient, and Iraq represented a credible military threat, what proof was this the case since the '04 campaign was a military cake walk?
Q4) Do you feel the US taxpayer's dollar is better spent destroying and rebuilding Iraq, or letting Americans spend their money at home?
The rumor is TXANG was phasing in drug tests with the physicals and people speculate that this might have been a reason GWB would avoid taking the physical.
That's starting to be 1/3 the price of a computer.
Speak for yourself. That's 90% the cost of a computer I'd put together...
(Decided the 939pin Athlon64s were overpriced. So I went quiet/low power instead.)
As egregious the current prices of video cards, its the need for active cooling that makes SOTA video cards unacceptable for me.
So, I go blow $75 on an ATI 9550 card. Yeah, looks like I won't be playing FarCry or Doom 3 anytime soon. Even worse, it turns out even though its an AGP card, my cheapo piece of crap mobo can't drive the card. (Little caveat for you casual PC builders...) *sigh*
An unthinking, overly-religious, drug-addled idiot or a narcisistic man with a midlife identity crisis. Election 2004 isn't much better. The country's going to hell in handbasket, I tell you.
Its because morons like you identify with Bush, and the country going to hell is the inevitable result of voting for a moron to lead the nation.
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The way it is now, its highly unlikely that linux can seriously threaten that high-end market. Linux, in its current configuration and direction, will never be able to support the threaded processing capability Solaris currently is able to do with its hardware platform. That is, unless Beowulf style cluster computing can match the price/performance of an integrated multi-cpu machine, and I don't see how that's possible with all the hardware redundancy (PS, networking, cases, etc.) and software-bound "cruft". (Convert linux to an L4 based microkernel design, NUMA, and new/better threaded support model, and then non-Sparc may have a better shot...)
Their problem is that they used to have a lock on the low-end server market, the market was taken by linux, and they're not getting it back (without a paradigm-shift level product; its not happening). That means to grow, they have to go beyond its high-end, boutique product market. (In business, if you're not growing a market, you're dying.)
Solaris is not about marketing-driven differentiation. The features in an upscalable, reliable high-end server is only realized (commercially) in Solaris. (IBM may be better in some ways to Sun's product, but its product lines are too wedded to the past to be able to suck market share from Sun (yet).)
Current Java licensing conditions has to do with their plan of using Java to help their marketing strategy for *their* products. If they open Java up to be "shanghied" by any competitor (Microsoft, IBM), java becomes valueless to them. I do not beleive that they have a good strategy, but its their "ball" and its not up to you to tell them to go give away their billion dollar franchise just so you can let your geek flag fly.
Nor does it benefit them to aid organizations in destroying their marketing strategy by putting out a competing operating system which can disrupt the strategy.
If you really felt strongly enough about the issue to boycott their hardware, you may as well be consistent and boycott Java.
Yes, Sun is only out there to make a buck, and in the big picture, the "We'll go the extra mile for developers" is a bit disingenuous. But you are not entitled to insist they commit commercial suicide for your benefit, anymore than someone posing the suggestion that "the world would be a better place if you weren't in it, so why not kill yourself".
1. Sun pays fee to SCO to open its code. It's quite apparent that Sun is opening its code to compete on a more level playing field with Linux, regardless of the specifics of GPL vs. Sun code licensing terms.
1) You're deluded. Open Sourcing the kernel code has nothing to do with competing with Linux. The kernel code is way too slick to be expecting Joe Hacker to add value to it. Opening the kernel code is so that their customers, big financial institutions (or software houses that cater to them) have access to the kernel source so they can add value to the kernel.
2) The extra money they're sending SCO is chicken feed compared to the legal bills SCO will have to eventually payout. As a delaying strategy, it sucks, because it looks like SCO will run out of legal gas very soon (like two years).
Ah, how sweet. Republicans lying to support the President's image. Such integrity.
Typical deluded (stupid) American.
And if you aren't, then you can pretty much understand the response.
So when those US jets are dropping ordinance in Falluja (A city with a 300K people), the bombs are designed to exclusively home in on insurgents or not blow up when noncombatants are in its blast radius?
Sure. (Dumbass.)
And when multinational corporate news networks report that soldiers shot up the occupants of a car at a checkpoint, that's a flat out lie? Or do those dead civilians not count?
You have to be kidding. An apache or a SAM could take it out. And once it goes stratospheric, you lose the advantage of close ground support. You're better off with JSTARS patrolling the area.
In short, the Democrats have no one to blame but themselves.
No, the blame goes to the Bush voters for being dumbasses.
Don't forget:
Sodomy: Abu Graib prisoners.
As a lifelong conservative, that hurts a bit.
As a citizen of the United State of America who resides in NYC, I feel your pain.
At the end of the day, the marriage license is just a fucking piece of paper
Kind of an oxymoron when you think about it. There's a whole lot less fucking after the paper is signed. Unless you mean that figuratively. In which case there is a whole lot of fucking over both parties.
I don't get it. The Bible-thumpers support an administration that commits sodomy on prisoners? Do they think that makes them more pleasing to God's eye?
Apparently, you live in a city.
Barry Goldwater was a great senator and great patriot. Its disgraceful to even compare such a man to that dumbass piece of crap Bush.
1) Its a shame that Borland waffled on C Builder support. I think it will really hurt them because it will hurt their other products. Delphi is hardly a world-reknown development tool. Now when programming shops consider what platform they are going to build upon, this non-ISO environment will certainly look unattractive; seeing how the company treats one of their formerly popular development packages.
2) Who really gives a frell? Its not like people can't do C++ anymore. Microsoft puts out a perfectly reasonable commercial developer interface. "It doesn't do this, it doesn't do that, I don't like the Evil Empire, blah blah blah..." Nothing is perfect, and if anything, Borland's product probably had more flaws. If you don't like a commercial monopoly, use crappy(?) open source tools.
The business environment is about reality, and reality bites. The reality is that Borland doesn't make the kind of money it needs to be viable corporate entity in this environment. They decided they don't have the money to support CBX or they need to put their money on some other savior product. Lets hope I'm wrong, they're right, and they live another day. If not, they're gonna greet Darwin anyway, and the market will have spoken. But face it, CBX offered nothing that made it head over heels superior to MS VS. Stop crying in your beer, unless that's the excuse you're using to drink...
At least you got an automated response. When I send phishing email notices to the FBI NY office, I don't even get an acknowlegement. (Although I got a nice phone call once from the Agent-In-Charge out in Hawaii, when I tracked down a phishing server out there. Too bad I lost my cellphone before I could get the voicemail off the number.)
are a major tool for any company that has to do billing for an entire country
It was also part of their research into automation of telephone network switching. Back in the early '70's, phone systems used physical relay switches and human operators to route calls throughout the country. Computers is what changed that physical hardware system into a "digital" system. Ironically enough, I hear it was HP UNIX systems that won the lion share of that specific market.
If there is any confusion as to why Keyes is >40% down in the polls, all they need to do is download and watch his interview on an Illinois local news show.
Speaking as a lefty NY liberal, I have nothing but sympathy for the Illinois Republican Party.
President* Bush:
Q1) Was the rationale for invading Iraq because Saddamn would imminently come into possesssion WMD? If so, what proof can you present to the world?
Q2) Was the rationale for invading Iraq because the Iraqi people needed to be liberated from Saddam? If so, why haven't we invaded North Korea?
Q3) Was the rationale for invading Iraq because Iraq presented a threat to Gulf Oil? If so, why have they not invaded an Arab state since '91? What is the justification to invade Iraq if our military presence alone was sufficient to keep it at bay? If it was insufficient, and Iraq represented a credible military threat, what proof was this the case since the '04 campaign was a military cake walk?
Q4) Do you feel the US taxpayer's dollar is better spent destroying and rebuilding Iraq, or letting Americans spend their money at home?
One would presume by now that each candidate has an exit strategy for Iraq.
Q1) What specific conditions must be satisfied before we can withdraw troops from Iraq?
Q2) What steps are you taking to accomplish those specific conditions?
Q3) Do you believe you can accomplish this in 2 years? 4 years?
Q4) Can you now promise to the American people you accomplish this goal within 2 years? If not, why should we vote for you?
Waste question. Both dorks will lie through their teeth and say that a draft is undesirable and won't be needed.
The rumor is TXANG was phasing in drug tests with the physicals and people speculate that this might have been a reason GWB would avoid taking the physical.
That's starting to be 1/3 the price of a computer.
Speak for yourself. That's 90% the cost of a computer I'd put together...
(Decided the 939pin Athlon64s were overpriced. So I went quiet/low power instead.)
As egregious the current prices of video cards, its the need for active cooling that makes SOTA video cards unacceptable for me.
So, I go blow $75 on an ATI 9550 card. Yeah, looks like I won't be playing FarCry or Doom 3 anytime soon. Even worse, it turns out even though its an AGP card, my cheapo piece of crap mobo can't drive the card. (Little caveat for you casual PC builders...) *sigh*
Copy Apple for crying out loud. They've ALREADY made an incredibly usable GUI slapped on top of a *nix operating system.
Yeah, copy Cocoa(?) and collectively have the entire X.org effort shutdown by copyright lawyers.
No thanks.
An unthinking, overly-religious, drug-addled idiot or a narcisistic man with a midlife identity crisis. Election 2004 isn't much better. The country's going to hell in handbasket, I tell you.
Its because morons like you identify with Bush, and the country going to hell is the inevitable result of voting for a moron to lead the nation.