Is it possible that Canadian citizens care more about privacy, making it make more sense for Canadian corporations to value privacy more?
I drive from Rochester, Minnesota to Edmonton, Alberta and back at least once per year, through Saskatchewan. There are no gas stations in Saskatchewan that I have seen that allow you to pay at the pump, not because the gas stations can't afford it, but because nobody will use it. People's concern for their privacy (not wanting where they've been to go on record anywhere) overrides the desire for the convenience of paying at the pump. Many people there won't even carry plastic. This is actually very annoying because in the 4 hour stretch between Yorkton and Saskatoon there are no all-night gas stations. I learned the hard way to gas up before entering that stretch.
This is a common flame, but it's depressingly true and very insightful when you are proposing solutions to spam.
I'm not sure how the central control of e-mail is going to be implemented, either simply through legislation or through technical changes in SMTP so some of the checks may only apply to one or the other...
approach to fighting spam. Your idea will not work. Here is why it won't work. (One or more of the following may apply to your particular idea, and it may have other flaws which used to vary from state to state before a bad federal law was passed.)
( ) Spammers can easily use it to harvest email addresses ( ) Mailing lists and other legitimate email uses would be affected ( ) No one will be able to find the guy or collect the money ( ) It is defenseless against brute force attacks (*) It will stop spam for two weeks and then we'll be stuck with it (*) Users of email will not put up with it (*) Microsoft will not put up with it ( ) The police will not put up with it (*) Requires too much cooperation from spammers (*) Requires immediate total cooperation from everybody at once ( ) Many email users cannot afford to lose business or alienate potential employers ( ) Spammers don't care about invalid addresses in their lists ( ) Anyone could anonymously destroy anyone else's career or business
Specifically, your plan fails to account for
( ) Laws expressly prohibiting it ( ) Lack of centrally controlling authority for email ( ) Open relays in foreign countries ( ) Ease of searching tiny alphanumeric address space of all email addresses ( ) Asshats (*) Jurisdictional problems (*) Unpopularity of weird new taxes ( ) Public reluctance to accept weird new forms of money (*) Huge existing software investment in SMTP ( ) Susceptibility of protocols other than SMTP to attack (*) Willingness of users to install OS patches received by email (*) Armies of worm riddled broadband-connected Windows boxes ( ) Eternal arms race involved in all filtering approaches ( ) Extreme profitability of spam (*) Joe jobs and/or identity theft (*) Technically illiterate politicians ( ) Extreme stupidity on the part of people who do business with spammers (*) Dishonesty on the part of spammers themselves ( ) Bandwidth costs that are unaffected by client filtering (*) Outlook (*) Ineptness of beaurocrats
and the following philosophical objections may also apply:
( ) Ideas similar to yours are easy to come up with, yet none have ever been shown practical ( ) Any scheme based on opt-out is unacceptable ( ) SMTP headers should not be the subject of legislation (*) Blacklists suck ( ) Whitelists suck (*) We should be able to talk about Viagra without being censored ( ) Countermeasures should not involve wire fraud or credit card fraud ( ) Countermeasures should not involve sabotage of public networks (*) Countermeasures must work if phased in gradually (*) Sending email should be free (as in freedom) (*) Sending email should be free (as in beer) (*) Why should we have to trust you and your servers? ( ) Incompatiblity with open source or open source licenses (*) Feel-good measures do nothing to solve the problem ( ) Temporary/one-time email addresses are cumbersome (*) I don't want the government reading my email ( ) Killing them that way is not slow and painful enough
Furthermore, this is what I think about you:
( ) You're one sorry dude. ( ) This is a stupid idea, and you're a stupid person for suggesting it. ( ) Nice try, assh0le! I'm going to find out where you live and burn your house down!
Why wouldn't a similar algorithm work to provide automated moderation? It seems to me that you could certainly identify clusters of words that indicate low-value posts?
If/. implements that and it will give me a new way to karma-whore.
The article says it gets 20 miles per gallon. Most new midsize and some full size SUVs get at least 20 miles per gallon on the highway. City milage is not a valid comparison unless this flying car is in stop-and-go traffic.
Oh yeah, I would like to see this fucking airplane tow your fucking boat.
If you can't see a reflective road stud, maybe you can try this: TURN YOUR FSCKING HEADLIGHTS ON!!! The relective ones are dirt cheap, easy to mount, easy to replace if they get stripped off by a snowplough and they are quite bright - if you have your headlights turned on.
Their solution to snowploughs is to mount it below the road surface. No matter how well you seal it, the sealant will wear off, creating a space between the marker and the pavement for ice to get into and create a pothole. Tacking a little steel tag with a reflective tape on it (those are the road studs normally used in Alberta) takes very little effort, (a little bit of well directed air or gunpowder to drive the spike in, as opposed to drilling out a well for the light, mounsting it, and sealing around it) does not create the a hole for water to seep into (the pavement surrounding a spike that is driven is exerts a fair amout of pressure on the spike which will keep the water out, as opposed to the pavement surrounding a well for the light exerts no pressure on the light, allowing water to pool inside and freeze), and easier to replace (drive a new spike in rather than either fixing the old well and reusing it or drilling a new well and filling the old one with tar).
If people ask where you are from, don't say "American", say the name of your hometown like, "Brainard, Minnesota"
Canada,being a small country that is culturally dominated by the USA is very anxious about their identity and Canadians frequently hold resent towards Americans because of it. If you reply by saying the name of your hometown, you will diffuse some of that by making you sound a little more personable and less arrogant.
I am a Canadian that after working a few years in Canada (Edmonton), I headed south. I liked what I was doing better in Canada, but the pay was bad. I think the market for programmers in Edmonton is flooded because there is a terrific (and large) university there but the industry in the town is mainly blue-collar.
More than half of what you make will got to taxes, but your benefits will cost significantly less, especially if you have dependents as health care is a public service. Also, as long as you stay out of Toronto and Vancouver, the cost of living is quite low. I rented a small two b/r appartment in downtown edmonton for $500 CAD (about $330 USD at the time) -- utilities included. That would be worth at least $600 USD in Rochester, MN.
Keep in mind that Canada is also regionally divided. Working in Toronto is a lot different from working in Edmonton, which is a lot different from working in Calgary. Choose the atmosphere you want to work in and select the appropriate city.
Edmonton: Laid back, mainly blue collar town, city driving is easy, cold and dry winters, cheap housing, low salary.
Calgary: not sure about atmosphere, mainly white collar town, driving not too bad but you will have to take public transportation if you work downtown, odd winter weather with snowstorms often followed by hot dry "chinook" winds, little more spendy on housing, decent salary
Vancouver: People don't go there for the money, they go for the lifestyle. Considered one of the top cities to live in in the world. Expensive housing, low salary, mild winters, good night life
Toronto: Stuck up coroporate culture, unions rule, evenin the white collar world. Expensive housing, frequent traffic jams, hot smoggy summers, great night life, streets are alive at all times.
Saskatoon: Conservative population, not sure about corporate culture, long cold dry winters, safe city, very low cost of living, not sure about salaries, considered a boring city, good place to raise children.
That's all the cities I can really speak about.
All in all, if you have children, I encourage you to move to Canada, there are good schools, it's quite safe, and the public services make raising a family a lot easier.
I'll be in the USA for a few more years, but I plan to head back eventually too. I am quite anxious about the $500B deficit that the US has because Canada used to have the problem and it took a lot of sacrfice to balance the budget and pay off that debt.
Well, my SUV is rated for 20 Hwy, and 15 City, and after a year of logging my miles, I've determined that to be accurate to the tenth of a mile. Of course, I do get a little push now and again from that @#$% tailgating civic that's embedded on my bumper...
If linux were as pervasive as windows, it would have spyware on it too - do you think the inherant security of the machine make any difference when the software is easily installed on your machine through social engineering techniques? YOu may be smarter than that, but 95% of computer users aren't.
When a convenience store sells an individual can of coke, does that can come from a twelve pack?Though, yes, the fluid dynamics involved give another way of detecting that can, it would look very odd to bring a giant pendulum and astop watch to the store (mind you, not quite as odd as an incrompressible cylendar large enough and an inclined plane to roll it on).
Hey I love my Suddenly Upsidedown Vehicle. It hauls, it carries people, it does road trips very well... (but it sucks for city driving - man I want a new car!).
Sound: If you shook the can with the phone in it, would it rattle or would it slosh like a normal coke can full of coke?
Heat capacity: when you pull the can out of the fridge at the store, does it stay cold for more than 10 seconds? A can full of mostly water (coke) will stay cold and a can full of mostly air (phone) will not.
Pressure: squeeze a can - if it's full of carbonic acid (coke), it won't squeeze as easily as if it's filled with air.
I could go on....
Now I can imagine all these kids shaking coke cans at the store, and hapless customers openning them afterwards without tapping the top...
Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both.
Sometimes, the security you get gives you liberty. The best comparison to Manalapan is a little country in Europe called Monaco. Like, Manalapan, Monaco is mostly populated by those of exceptional wealth. Those that live there, generally describe it as a police state, and that's why they live there.
My grandmother had her farm house broken into a few years back. They robbed her of just about everything valueale - TV, stereo, microwave, and so on. She had to wait some time before replacing those items, not because she couldn't afford to replace them, but because burglars like to hit houses twice, a few months apart because the second time they rob it, it will have new stuff. She lost a little piece to freedom because of a lack of security.
Now consider that you are super rich. You can afford a Ferarri, you want a Ferarri, but unless you can be sure you won't get car-jacked, you can't have a Ferarri. You can afford a big house, you want a big house but unless you need a certain amount of security if you want to show wealth without haveing it taken from you. Many apartment buildings and condos have cameras at the door. They exist to serve the residents. Those cameras in Manalapan are no different - they are there to serve the residents. What may be viewed as encroachment in one neighbourhood, is actually liberating in another.
On the contrary, if they pulled out of driveway it's clearly their fault, and if they changed into my lane without proper clearance, it's also their fault.
You are correct on the driveway example, but not the lane change. If someone pulls in front of you and you hit them from behind you will likely be held at fault because it would be very difficult for you to prove that is what had happenned. Ask any trucker that's been cut off in front of a red light. The only way that the other driver would be held liable is if the point of impact was on the side of the vehicle rather than the rear.
If this is going to be admissable evidence, it needs to be accurate,. I don't see how that's even debatable.
A counterexample to this would be a police radar gun - usually the police office has to guess what vehicle they are actually picking up with the radar gun - yet it is still admissible in court. This black box would likely be more reliable than the police radar. Also in civil court the burden of proof is much lower than in criminal court - "on a balance of probabilities" rather than "beyond a reasonable doubt".
Well, sure, obvious cases would be thrown out. But what if you were driving exactly at a 65mph speed limit when someone pulled out in front of you, and your black box said you were going 80mph, potentially making the accident your fault? (or at least causing a speeding citation)
There are two faults with that argument:
If someone pulled in front of you and you rear ended them, it is likely that you will be held accountable for the accident, no matter how blatantly you were cut off and how impossible it was for you to avoid the idiot and how fast you were going at the time.
The police can usually calculate your speed at the time of impact based on the condition of the wreckage to a remarkable degree of accuracy - this device simply saves them time. You have to remember that in Canada (at least in Alberta - I don't know about Quebec), the mounties can close a highway all day to investigate a collision if they wat to. Typicly they won't unless the case is of particular notoriety.
Most provinces and states require the determination of who is at fault in all reportable accidents. Motor vehicle collisions account for approximately 80% of tort law (X sueing Y) cases in these states and the high legal fees and invesigation costs for accidents make insurance more costly for everyone. Anything to reduce the costs while improving road safety is a benefit for everyone. You aren't loseing any privacy by a five-second recorder because it's blatantly obvious where you've been. The recorder doesn't provide any data that can't be ascertained through other, more costly means.
IANAF (I am not a farmer) but wouldn't tracks tear up your land (crops) more than wheels? Seems to me that the only way to steer a tractor is skid steering which would shear any vegetation under the tracks. OTOH with wheels and your standard rack and peanut steering, there is very little sliding on the ground. Not sure why tracks would be useful for agriculture.
Give me a 30-pound Bell rotary-dialer with a length of RJ-11 coming out the bottom of it, that's a REAL man's phone.
My home has seen four generations of telephone wiring - There was actually a time when phones were actually hard-wired into the walls using two-wire phone cable. Then they replaced the hard wiring with a jack that has four prongs arranged in a 25mm square. These were all surface mounted. Then came the RJ-11 modular plugs - in some places the four-prong jacks were replaced by surface-mount RJ-11, in other places they just used an adapter. Right now I am rewiring my home (both high voltage and low voltage) and replacing all the old phone wiring with cat 5e and putting in network cabling as well.
I have an uncle on a farm in Saskatchewan that still has a hard-wired rotary phone in his home. The telephone company (SaskTel) is offering all kinds of incentives to drop the rotary phone and put in a touch tone, like, a new phone, all installation, etc just because it is getting too expensive for SaskTel to support the few people that still use them. He won't do it though - I guess they'll have to pry that phone out of his cold dead fingers.
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... which is also the most difficult section of the contract to read because it's in all caps.
Just my $0.02
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The /. operator is the one that causes your system to grind to a halt.
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Dude - you should warn us that it's not safe for work!
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- Thomas;
This is a common flame, but it's depressingly true and very insightful when you are proposing solutions to spam.
I'm not sure how the central control of e-mail is going to be implemented, either simply through legislation or through technical changes in SMTP so some of the checks may only apply to one or the other...
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Your post advocates a:
(*) technical (*) legislative ( ) market-based ( ) vigilante
approach to fighting spam. Your idea will not work. Here is why it won't work. (One or more of the following may apply to your particular idea, and it may have other flaws which used to vary from state to state before a bad federal law was passed.)
( ) Spammers can easily use it to harvest email addresses
( ) Mailing lists and other legitimate email uses would be affected
( ) No one will be able to find the guy or collect the money
( ) It is defenseless against brute force attacks
(*) It will stop spam for two weeks and then we'll be stuck with it
(*) Users of email will not put up with it
(*) Microsoft will not put up with it
( ) The police will not put up with it
(*) Requires too much cooperation from spammers
(*) Requires immediate total cooperation from everybody at once
( ) Many email users cannot afford to lose business or alienate potential employers
( ) Spammers don't care about invalid addresses in their lists
( ) Anyone could anonymously destroy anyone else's career or business
Specifically, your plan fails to account for
( ) Laws expressly prohibiting it
( ) Lack of centrally controlling authority for email
( ) Open relays in foreign countries
( ) Ease of searching tiny alphanumeric address space of all email addresses
( ) Asshats
(*) Jurisdictional problems
(*) Unpopularity of weird new taxes
( ) Public reluctance to accept weird new forms of money
(*) Huge existing software investment in SMTP
( ) Susceptibility of protocols other than SMTP to attack
(*) Willingness of users to install OS patches received by email
(*) Armies of worm riddled broadband-connected Windows boxes
( ) Eternal arms race involved in all filtering approaches
( ) Extreme profitability of spam
(*) Joe jobs and/or identity theft
(*) Technically illiterate politicians
( ) Extreme stupidity on the part of people who do business with spammers
(*) Dishonesty on the part of spammers themselves
( ) Bandwidth costs that are unaffected by client filtering
(*) Outlook
(*) Ineptness of beaurocrats
and the following philosophical objections may also apply:
( ) Ideas similar to yours are easy to come up with, yet none have ever been shown practical
( ) Any scheme based on opt-out is unacceptable
( ) SMTP headers should not be the subject of legislation
(*) Blacklists suck
( ) Whitelists suck
(*) We should be able to talk about Viagra without being censored
( ) Countermeasures should not involve wire fraud or credit card fraud
( ) Countermeasures should not involve sabotage of public networks
(*) Countermeasures must work if phased in gradually
(*) Sending email should be free (as in freedom)
(*) Sending email should be free (as in beer)
(*) Why should we have to trust you and your servers?
( ) Incompatiblity with open source or open source licenses
(*) Feel-good measures do nothing to solve the problem
( ) Temporary/one-time email addresses are cumbersome
(*) I don't want the government reading my email
( ) Killing them that way is not slow and painful enough
Furthermore, this is what I think about you:
( ) You're one sorry dude.
( ) This is a stupid idea, and you're a stupid person for suggesting it.
( ) Nice try, assh0le! I'm going to find out where you live and burn your house down!
- Thomas;
Yup. You click the pr0n bit to show the naughty bits in the dirty bits?
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If
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The article says it gets 20 miles per gallon. Most new midsize and some full size SUVs get at least 20 miles per gallon on the highway. City milage is not a valid comparison unless this flying car is in stop-and-go traffic.
Oh yeah, I would like to see this fucking airplane tow your fucking boat.
Just my $0.02
- Thomas;
If you can't see a reflective road stud, maybe you can try this: TURN YOUR FSCKING HEADLIGHTS ON!!! The relective ones are dirt cheap, easy to mount, easy to replace if they get stripped off by a snowplough and they are quite bright - if you have your headlights turned on.
Their solution to snowploughs is to mount it below the road surface. No matter how well you seal it, the sealant will wear off, creating a space between the marker and the pavement for ice to get into and create a pothole. Tacking a little steel tag with a reflective tape on it (those are the road studs normally used in Alberta) takes very little effort, (a little bit of well directed air or gunpowder to drive the spike in, as opposed to drilling out a well for the light, mounsting it, and sealing around it) does not create the a hole for water to seep into (the pavement surrounding a spike that is driven is exerts a fair amout of pressure on the spike which will keep the water out, as opposed to the pavement surrounding a well for the light exerts no pressure on the light, allowing water to pool inside and freeze), and easier to replace (drive a new spike in rather than either fixing the old well and reusing it or drilling a new well and filling the old one with tar).
Sometimes the simpler solution is far superior.
- Thomas;
Perhaps if the paint has a high phosphorous content it might glow for at least a few hours after sunset, which covers most of the nighttime traffic.
If you go, I'll give you a tip:
If people ask where you are from, don't say "American", say the name of your hometown like, "Brainard, Minnesota"
Canada,being a small country that is culturally dominated by the USA is very anxious about their identity and Canadians frequently hold resent towards Americans because of it. If you reply by saying the name of your hometown, you will diffuse some of that by making you sound a little more personable and less arrogant.
- Thomas;
I am a Canadian that after working a few years in Canada (Edmonton), I headed south. I liked what I was doing better in Canada, but the pay was bad. I think the market for programmers in Edmonton is flooded because there is a terrific (and large) university there but the industry in the town is mainly blue-collar.
More than half of what you make will got to taxes, but your benefits will cost significantly less, especially if you have dependents as health care is a public service. Also, as long as you stay out of Toronto and Vancouver, the cost of living is quite low. I rented a small two b/r appartment in downtown edmonton for $500 CAD (about $330 USD at the time) -- utilities included. That would be worth at least $600 USD in Rochester, MN.
Keep in mind that Canada is also regionally divided. Working in Toronto is a lot different from working in Edmonton, which is a lot different from working in Calgary. Choose the atmosphere you want to work in and select the appropriate city.
Edmonton: Laid back, mainly blue collar town, city driving is easy, cold and dry winters, cheap housing, low salary.
Calgary: not sure about atmosphere, mainly white collar town, driving not too bad but you will have to take public transportation if you work downtown, odd winter weather with snowstorms often followed by hot dry "chinook" winds, little more spendy on housing, decent salary
Vancouver: People don't go there for the money, they go for the lifestyle. Considered one of the top cities to live in in the world. Expensive housing, low salary, mild winters, good night life
Toronto: Stuck up coroporate culture, unions rule, evenin the white collar world. Expensive housing, frequent traffic jams, hot smoggy summers, great night life, streets are alive at all times.
Saskatoon: Conservative population, not sure about corporate culture, long cold dry winters, safe city, very low cost of living, not sure about salaries, considered a boring city, good place to raise children.
That's all the cities I can really speak about.
All in all, if you have children, I encourage you to move to Canada, there are good schools, it's quite safe, and the public services make raising a family a lot easier.
I'll be in the USA for a few more years, but I plan to head back eventually too. I am quite anxious about the $500B deficit that the US has because Canada used to have the problem and it took a lot of sacrfice to balance the budget and pay off that debt.
God save the queen,
- Thomas;
Well, my SUV is rated for 20 Hwy, and 15 City, and after a year of logging my miles, I've determined that to be accurate to the tenth of a mile. Of course, I do get a little push now and again from that @#$% tailgating civic that's embedded on my bumper...
- Thomas;
If linux were as pervasive as windows, it would have spyware on it too - do you think the inherant security of the machine make any difference when the software is easily installed on your machine through social engineering techniques? YOu may be smarter than that, but 95% of computer users aren't.
- Thomas;
When a convenience store sells an individual can of coke, does that can come from a twelve pack?Though, yes, the fluid dynamics involved give another way of detecting that can, it would look very odd to bring a giant pendulum and astop watch to the store (mind you, not quite as odd as an incrompressible cylendar large enough and an inclined plane to roll it on).
Hey I love my Suddenly Upsidedown Vehicle. It hauls, it carries people, it does road trips very well... (but it sucks for city driving - man I want a new car!).
- Thomas;
Sound: If you shook the can with the phone in it, would it rattle or would it slosh like a normal coke can full of coke?
Heat capacity: when you pull the can out of the fridge at the store, does it stay cold for more than 10 seconds? A can full of mostly water (coke) will stay cold and a can full of mostly air (phone) will not.
Pressure: squeeze a can - if it's full of carbonic acid (coke), it won't squeeze as easily as if it's filled with air.
I could go on....
Now I can imagine all these kids shaking coke cans at the store, and hapless customers openning them afterwards without tapping the top...
- Thomas;
My grandmother had her farm house broken into a few years back. They robbed her of just about everything valueale - TV, stereo, microwave, and so on. She had to wait some time before replacing those items, not because she couldn't afford to replace them, but because burglars like to hit houses twice, a few months apart because the second time they rob it, it will have new stuff. She lost a little piece to freedom because of a lack of security.
Now consider that you are super rich. You can afford a Ferarri, you want a Ferarri, but unless you can be sure you won't get car-jacked, you can't have a Ferarri. You can afford a big house, you want a big house but unless you need a certain amount of security if you want to show wealth without haveing it taken from you.
Many apartment buildings and condos have cameras at the door. They exist to serve the residents. Those cameras in Manalapan are no different - they are there to serve the residents. What may be viewed as encroachment in one neighbourhood, is actually liberating in another.
Just my $0,02
- Thomas;
A counterexample to this would be a police radar gun - usually the police office has to guess what vehicle they are actually picking up with the radar gun - yet it is still admissible in court. This black box would likely be more reliable than the police radar. Also in civil court the burden of proof is much lower than in criminal court - "on a balance of probabilities" rather than "beyond a reasonable doubt".
- If someone pulled in front of you and you rear ended them, it is likely that you will be held accountable for the accident, no matter how blatantly you were cut off and how impossible it was for you to avoid the idiot and how fast you were going at the time.
- The police can usually calculate your speed at the time of impact based on the condition of the wreckage to a remarkable degree of accuracy - this device simply saves them time. You have to remember that in Canada (at least in Alberta - I don't know about Quebec), the mounties can close a highway all day to investigate a collision if they wat to. Typicly they won't unless the case is of particular notoriety.
Most provinces and states require the determination of who is at fault in all reportable accidents. Motor vehicle collisions account for approximately 80% of tort law (X sueing Y) cases in these states and the high legal fees and invesigation costs for accidents make insurance more costly for everyone. Anything to reduce the costs while improving road safety is a benefit for everyone.You aren't loseing any privacy by a five-second recorder because it's blatantly obvious where you've been. The recorder doesn't provide any data that can't be ascertained through other, more costly means.
Just my $0.02
- Thomas;
IANAF (I am not a farmer) but wouldn't tracks tear up your land (crops) more than wheels? Seems to me that the only way to steer a tractor is skid steering which would shear any vegetation under the tracks. OTOH with wheels and your standard rack and peanut steering, there is very little sliding on the ground. Not sure why tracks would be useful for agriculture.
Just my $0.02
- Thomas;
Just out of curiousity - what is the plural form of Deere - is it still Deere? Do you say:
- I have two Deere in the shed, or
- I have two Deeres in the shed, or
- I have two hood of Deere in the shed (well you can't say "head")?
This has been bothering me.- Thomas;
I have an uncle on a farm in Saskatchewan that still has a hard-wired rotary phone in his home. The telephone company (SaskTel) is offering all kinds of incentives to drop the rotary phone and put in a touch tone, like, a new phone, all installation, etc just because it is getting too expensive for SaskTel to support the few people that still use them. He won't do it though - I guess they'll have to pry that phone out of his cold dead fingers.
- Thomas;
At most HMV and a&b sound stores in Canada, they will actually open up the CD and put in it in a player so you can listen to the CD before you buy it.
Every time I go back to Canada (I live in USA now), I buy LOTS of music.
- Thomas;
Teleportation, my friend. Teleportation.
-Thomas;