and as your genius level analytic abilities have noted, they are a sober, stable country (!?)
so your sense of false complacency rests on a clearly psychotic regime acting perfectly rationally, and as it tinkers with advanced technology and makes threats for decades in a constant hypermilitaristic state, while its people starve, no mistakes will ever happen that will be misinterpreted, right? no brainwashed underfed delusional commander willing to show dear leader his real devotion right? everything perfectly fine as it builds nukes and ICBMs while a totalitarian regime propagandizes and terrorizes its cowed people, right?
you're a fucking moron
not a baseless insult. an objective analysis of the facts as contrasted with your attitude
Still absurd that such a tiny impoverished country should have more active troops than countries with populations in the hundred of millions and almost as much as India, a nation of over a billion and with fractured warlike relations with neighboring Pakistan (which only pops up at number 8). AND more than Russia.
By per capita, North Korea is clearly the most hypermilitaristic country in the world, by far.
That's the "small unpowerful country" the uneducated moron in the above thread refers to. It does this, and pursues ICBMs and nukes, while its people eat leaves. And we're supposed to not worry about this according to certain geniuses.
they build missiles and nuclear bombs while their people eat leaves and starve, we are still technically in a state of war with them (the korean war "ended" with only an armistice), they repeatedly and continually lie about their intentions, they have for decades announced their hostile intentions to their neighbors and the usa, they are universally condemned by all countries in the world, including their only "close" ally, china, they are ruled by a mafia family that has built a cult of personality around the invincibility and infallibility of the favorite son who holds all power (currently a fat kid in his late 20s), they regularly attack and kill south koreans, and abduct japanese civilians, etc., etc.
and this doesn't bother you
notice something else about your small unpowerful country:
#1, russia: 21.5 million troops #2, north korea: 9.5 million troops #8, usa: 3 million troops
yes, you read that right. this small country where people can't get enough to eat has over three times the number of troops as the USA. that's your "small unpowerful country"
you are a moron
i am not flinging an empty insult. i am making a comparison of your attitude and the obvious facts of what you are dealing with in north korea, and making an objective description of your intellectual abilities. educate yourself. then open your ignorant mouth. thank you
do you live in alaska? (referencing your sig). this is the closest us territory to north korea
they build missiles and nuclear bombs while their people eat leaves and starve, we are still technically in a state of war with them (the korean war "ended" with only an armistice), they repeatedly and continually lie about their intentions, they have for decades announced their hostile intentions to their neighbors and the usa, they are universally condemned by all countries in the world, including their only "close" ally, china, they are ruled by a mafia family that has built a cult of personality around the invincibility and infallibility of the favorite son who holds all power (currently a fat kid in his late 20s), they regularly attack and kill south koreans, and abduct japanese civilians, etc., etc.
i am not flinging an empty insult. i am making a comparison of your attitude and the obvious facts of what you are dealing with in north korea and making an objective description of your intellectual abilities. educate yourself. then open your ignorant mouth. thank you
those are bad things. now try to understand that those bad things are not the same as the bad things north korea does. and it is possible to dislike both governments at the same time. and it is also possible to criticize north korea when it launches a missile. what do you think of the missile launch from the mafia that starves its people while it builds nuke in defiance of the world? (not defiance of the usa, defiance of the world)
is it possible to step back from simpleminded tribal thinking and criticize both countries? or do you find only reason to criticize the usa when north korea does something vile? why is that?
put it this way: if next year the usa is found to be torturing some people in gitmo, what do you think of the person who comments "well, north korea has nuclear weapons, that's what we should be talking about today"
this is akin to holding the cops accountable for what the kidnappers do
nobody in the world is using the threat of famine for political gains on the issue of north korea, except north korea
if the world is interested in feeding the people of north korea, it would remove the impediment that is preventing the people of north korea from feeding themselves. that would be the government of north korea
or, the world could continue to ship grain to north korea while its government builds nukes and ICBMs instead of feeding its people. so with every passing decade, we have more and more weapons of mass destruction, and people still starving unless the world continues to feed them
we can wait for the government to collapse itself. except that we've been doing that for over 50 years, and it never collapses. it just invests in more advanced military technology. we reward them for those efforts, because we prove to them we will still feed them no matter how crazy they act or how many threats they make or how vile the weapons they build
the people of north korea continue to starve, the weapons technology proliferates to other vile regimes in the world, more weapons get stockpiled, and therefore the stakes involved with the government of north korea collapsing get more dire: who gets the weapons in the anarchy that follows? what does the long life of the north korea regime and the timidity of the world governments say to other countries who wish to engage in warmongering and neglect of its own people?
this doesn't end well. and the longer the regime lasts, the less well it ends. and the whole time, the people there starve and suffer
the interest in peace sometimes requires difficult choices. hundreds of thousands would die in south korea if north korea is attacked. but kicking the can down the road just means the choice gets more difficult later, and more die later
i have two thoughts:
1. the longer the regime lasts, the more people die when the regime goes away. so the bravest choice is to confront them as soon as possible. we have not done this, and now they have nuclear weapons while their people eat leaves 2. china stops covering for its rabid historical ally, and begrudingly accepts a united korean penninsula under a seoul friendly to the west. chinese nationalism does not accept the numbers of chinese who died for the existence of north korea o allow this outcome
am i a warmongerer for having these thoughts? because i am critical of a regime that endlessly prepares for war and does not feed its own people? how is that possible in your mind to not see the malice where the malice actually lies: pyongyang
i am saying this does not end well. you can dispute me
1. some kidnap scenarios end with the kidnapper and the hostage and a lot of police dead. 2. some end with the kidnapper in custody and the hostage safe
i'll try to be optimistic and think pyongyang will go away in scenario 2. but my gut and my mind tell me scenario 1 is more likely. i am sorry, i do not think i am being pessimistic here, i think i am being realistic about the obvious and long demonstrated malice of this rabid kooky mafia cult
North Korea just launched a missile over other countries. What is your opinion?
Are you able to offer one that does not revolve around your obsession, the USA?
Do you see where I wrote " I ENCOURAGE you to criticize the USA." above? Did that statement make any impression on you?
Does therefore a criticism of a blind American patriotism on my part seem logical or reasonable to you?
Do you understand that it is entirely possible to criticize North Korea and still dislike the USA?
The issue is not my blind prejudicial love of the USA. Because I have none. The issue is your blind prejudicial dislike for the USA. which you have, because you have a mental inability to see actions by other country and... somehow not invoke the USA.
You completely and utterly do not understand the simple and obvious point I am making:
1. USA bad. 2. North Korea bad. 3. 100% ok to criticize North Korea when it launches a missile over other countries and...get this, I know far out and wacky concept... not be in love with the USA when you do that.
NO WAY!
What drives me nuts is this tribal thinking you are trapped in: an inability to see North Korea's actions, and the USA's actions, completely separately, when they obviously are. This sort of kneejerk tribal thinking you demonstrate is the source of wars in this world. Really. Look at World War II, wonder at what motivated the thinking of those who started it. Look in the mirror. The tribal thinking that motivated them, is alive and well in you.
make believe the USA does not exist. what are your opinions of the actions of North Korea?
is it possible in your mind to criticize the USA, which i ENCOURAGE you to do, AND criticize North Korea, at the same time?
or is your brain so heavily hardwired for cromagnon tribal posturing, that it is impossible for you to look at the actions of North Korea, and the actions of the USA, and not criticize them SEPARATELY AT THE SAME TIME
am i asking you to play chopin's opus 25 on the piano? am i asking you to walk on a wire over niagara falls?
why is it so fucking utterly beyond your dim mental abilities to be able to criticize North Korea without somehow invoking your dislike for the USA? why is that so hard for you?
look, over here: North Korea. got it? and now, over there: USA. different. separate. amazing right?
i ENCOURAGE you to criticize the USA. repeat: i ENCOURAGE you to criticize the USA. on the merits of the crimes the USA has committed in this world, which are many and large. do you understand me?
but maybe, just MAYBE, when the mafia family in pyongyang, when not busy starving its people and building nuclear bombs, decides to launch a missile over other countries, that you might just find the compunction somewhere within your dim cranium to... get this, i know, far out wacky thought...to criticize North Korea?
is kneejerk tribal rah rah rah all you are capable of?
simply put: morons hardwired to tribal, oppositional thinking, like you, represent the downfall of humanity. this really is the truth
Yes, a nerve has been touched. Gross ignorance, outright flaming stupidity, a humongous capacity to open one's mouth while the wattage in the cranium is dim: this insults me.
would this be like the hypocrisy that charles manson uses a gun, and the police use a gun, and so they are morally equivalent, and to criticize charles manson is hypocrisy?
or a burglar breaks into your home, and the government forces you to pay taxes, so its all the same thing: robbery... hypocrisy!
how about a drunk driver jumping the sidewalk and killing a pedestrian is the same as a drunk stumbling into a highway and getting hit... hypocrisy!
yeah hypocrisy! everything is morally equivalent!
please define the parameters in which the globally condemned mafia family who starves its people while it pursues nukes is the same as the government of the USA
bonus thought (if you can handle more than one thought at a time): it is not required to like the USA to agree with my comment. it is actually possible *gasp*, get this radical craziness!: to dislike North Korea, AND the USA, for different, REAL reasons... at the same time! no freakin way! for real?
rather than the genius level analysis you and parent poster demonstrate. "bad things from government A" = "bad things government B": hypocrisy!
When you post something like this, you are really just loudly announcing your low IQ.
I am in no way defending the USA. The USA has done plenty wrong in the world. If you dislike the USA, you are free to criticize the USA. There is plenty I am unhappy about the USA's actions in this world. I ENCOURAGE you to criticize the USA.
But what I want you to try to do is criticize the USA on the merits of what the USA has done wrong. Not use global condemnation of the actions of a mafia family who starves its people and pursues nukes as an excuse to go "well, the USA is the same! hypocrisy!"
No, moron, you're wrong. Factually, objectively wrong, on simple and obvious facts an elementary school student can grasp about simple and obvious, undisputed facts of the governments of the two countries and their historical records.
That you think it is even remotely valid to compare the two nations on their actions and talk about hypocrisy is just an exercise in gross stupidity.
I am not flinging empty insults. I am using your words as the starting point for an objective analysis of your ability to look at world events and use basic mental skills like compare and contrast: you fail. Horribly. You are a moron. This is an objective appraisal of your IQ, not an empty insult.
Do yourself a favor and think and educate yourself. Then post your opinions on the Internet. Not that stupidity stops anyone from commenting, but maybe you can eventually grow mentally and come to appreciate where you fail so miserably in your thought processes here. Fucking pathetic.
all government action is an attempt to destroy freedom. just because it can, in his mind
the will of the people expressed through their government, the common good, these are alien concepts to the moron
the moron lives in a paranoid schizophrenic hollywood fantasy world where goose-stepping fascists want to give you anal probes. why? just because that's what government exists to do, in this moron's mind. they think agent smith in the matrix is what real life is like. this is a stupid person with deficient education and deficient social skills you are trying to reason with
the consequences of someone choosing not to get vaccinated is the possible death of a child not their own
how do you hold someone accountable for that?
the simple truth is, there is no freedom in this world without an equal amount of responsibility. those who behave irresponsibly reduce freedom for everyone. too many people posting about freedom and choice think of the ideas of freedom and choice from the perspective of a clueless teenager: that your actions exist in a vacuum of no consequences
all freedoms exist in tension in this world: your right to get a good nights sleep, my right to listen to loud music at 3 am, your right to stay alive, my right to speed as fast as i want
you need to stop thinking about freedoms in a vacuum, where your choices have no implication. the idea that the government is limiting people's freedoms by making vaccinations mandatory is bullshit. the idea that some irresponsible asshole is risking my life and the life of my children by choosing to be so stupid and so irresponsible as to not get vaccinated: THAT is the limitation on my freedom that needs to be opposed in the name of freedom: the freedom to live, without which, no other freedoms matter
limitations on your freedom in this world is NOT primarily from governments. limitations on your freedom in this world IS primarily due to the irresponsible actions of other individuals around you. that really is the truth: without responsibility, there is no freedom in this world, regardless of whatever any government ever does. freedom, and responsibility, comes from individual action. and where freedom is limited, look the stupid, the evil, the thieving, and the irresponsible individuals around you
i do not fear limitations on my freedom from my democratic government which suffers when it defies the popular will. i fear limitations on my freedom from the irresponsible individuals in my country
you're a moron. your opinion is based on abject fear and a pathological lack of basic human trust. the government in a democracy is an extension of the will of the people, not an alien rights abusing machine, despite whatever antisocial hysteria your feeble mind harbors
i'm really sick of retards like you polluting the conversation on subjects like this. there IS such a thing as the common good, and it will be enforced, in the name of THE PEOPLE. now go scream about the fascist government giving you anal probes, or whatever paranoid hysteria intellectually deficient losers like you fantasize about
no, completely different. there's no slipperly slope. government can force anyone to do anything. WHY they force someone to do something is something they have to defend, or the public agitates and politicians lose their jobs
Slashdot Mirror
you mean powered by kitsch and ponderous explication?
because norwegian researchers already have implemented the natural communication protocol for these sorts of computers:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_over_Avian_Carriers
i'm sorry slashdot, i don't care how much rovio paid you, "angry birds space" is not something we need plastered...
oh wait, never mind
yes, they would be crazy to attack
and as your genius level analytic abilities have noted, they are a sober, stable country (!?)
so your sense of false complacency rests on a clearly psychotic regime acting perfectly rationally, and as it tinkers with advanced technology and makes threats for decades in a constant hypermilitaristic state, while its people starve, no mistakes will ever happen that will be misinterpreted, right? no brainwashed underfed delusional commander willing to show dear leader his real devotion right? everything perfectly fine as it builds nukes and ICBMs while a totalitarian regime propagandizes and terrorizes its cowed people, right?
you're a fucking moron
not a baseless insult. an objective analysis of the facts as contrasted with your attitude
ok, good info.
then it is:
1. China
2. USA
3. India
4. North Korea
5. Russia
Still absurd that such a tiny impoverished country should have more active troops than countries with populations in the hundred of millions and almost as much as India, a nation of over a billion and with fractured warlike relations with neighboring Pakistan (which only pops up at number 8). AND more than Russia.
By per capita, North Korea is clearly the most hypermilitaristic country in the world, by far.
That's the "small unpowerful country" the uneducated moron in the above thread refers to. It does this, and pursues ICBMs and nukes, while its people eat leaves. And we're supposed to not worry about this according to certain geniuses.
they build missiles and nuclear bombs while their people eat leaves and starve, we are still technically in a state of war with them (the korean war "ended" with only an armistice), they repeatedly and continually lie about their intentions, they have for decades announced their hostile intentions to their neighbors and the usa, they are universally condemned by all countries in the world, including their only "close" ally, china, they are ruled by a mafia family that has built a cult of personality around the invincibility and infallibility of the favorite son who holds all power (currently a fat kid in his late 20s), they regularly attack and kill south koreans, and abduct japanese civilians, etc., etc.
and this doesn't bother you
notice something else about your small unpowerful country:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_size_of_armed_forces
sort on the total column, descending.
#1, russia: 21.5 million troops
#2, north korea: 9.5 million troops
#8, usa: 3 million troops
yes, you read that right. this small country where people can't get enough to eat has over three times the number of troops as the USA. that's your "small unpowerful country"
you are a moron
i am not flinging an empty insult. i am making a comparison of your attitude and the obvious facts of what you are dealing with in north korea, and making an objective description of your intellectual abilities. educate yourself. then open your ignorant mouth. thank you
an ac in a sibling thread summarizes it better:
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2783493&cid=39669961
do you live in alaska? (referencing your sig). this is the closest us territory to north korea
they build missiles and nuclear bombs while their people eat leaves and starve, we are still technically in a state of war with them (the korean war "ended" with only an armistice), they repeatedly and continually lie about their intentions, they have for decades announced their hostile intentions to their neighbors and the usa, they are universally condemned by all countries in the world, including their only "close" ally, china, they are ruled by a mafia family that has built a cult of personality around the invincibility and infallibility of the favorite son who holds all power (currently a fat kid in his late 20s), they regularly attack and kill south koreans, and abduct japanese civilians, etc., etc.
and this doesn't bother you
an ac in a sibling thread summarizes it better:
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2783493&cid=39669961
for not caring, you are a moron
i am not flinging an empty insult. i am making a comparison of your attitude and the obvious facts of what you are dealing with in north korea and making an objective description of your intellectual abilities. educate yourself. then open your ignorant mouth. thank you
those are bad things. now try to understand that those bad things are not the same as the bad things north korea does. and it is possible to dislike both governments at the same time. and it is also possible to criticize north korea when it launches a missile. what do you think of the missile launch from the mafia that starves its people while it builds nuke in defiance of the world? (not defiance of the usa, defiance of the world)
is it possible to step back from simpleminded tribal thinking and criticize both countries? or do you find only reason to criticize the usa when north korea does something vile? why is that?
put it this way: if next year the usa is found to be torturing some people in gitmo, what do you think of the person who comments "well, north korea has nuclear weapons, that's what we should be talking about today"
what do you think of such a person?
now look in the mirror
thank you. i agree with you on your observations
now, the regime in pyongyang just launched a missile. consider the history of this government. what are your opinions of north korea?
this is akin to holding the cops accountable for what the kidnappers do
nobody in the world is using the threat of famine for political gains on the issue of north korea, except north korea
if the world is interested in feeding the people of north korea, it would remove the impediment that is preventing the people of north korea from feeding themselves. that would be the government of north korea
or, the world could continue to ship grain to north korea while its government builds nukes and ICBMs instead of feeding its people. so with every passing decade, we have more and more weapons of mass destruction, and people still starving unless the world continues to feed them
we can wait for the government to collapse itself. except that we've been doing that for over 50 years, and it never collapses. it just invests in more advanced military technology. we reward them for those efforts, because we prove to them we will still feed them no matter how crazy they act or how many threats they make or how vile the weapons they build
the people of north korea continue to starve, the weapons technology proliferates to other vile regimes in the world, more weapons get stockpiled, and therefore the stakes involved with the government of north korea collapsing get more dire: who gets the weapons in the anarchy that follows? what does the long life of the north korea regime and the timidity of the world governments say to other countries who wish to engage in warmongering and neglect of its own people?
this doesn't end well. and the longer the regime lasts, the less well it ends. and the whole time, the people there starve and suffer
the interest in peace sometimes requires difficult choices. hundreds of thousands would die in south korea if north korea is attacked. but kicking the can down the road just means the choice gets more difficult later, and more die later
i have two thoughts:
1. the longer the regime lasts, the more people die when the regime goes away. so the bravest choice is to confront them as soon as possible. we have not done this, and now they have nuclear weapons while their people eat leaves
2. china stops covering for its rabid historical ally, and begrudingly accepts a united korean penninsula under a seoul friendly to the west. chinese nationalism does not accept the numbers of chinese who died for the existence of north korea o allow this outcome
am i a warmongerer for having these thoughts? because i am critical of a regime that endlessly prepares for war and does not feed its own people? how is that possible in your mind to not see the malice where the malice actually lies: pyongyang
i am saying this does not end well. you can dispute me
1. some kidnap scenarios end with the kidnapper and the hostage and a lot of police dead.
2. some end with the kidnapper in custody and the hostage safe
i'll try to be optimistic and think pyongyang will go away in scenario 2. but my gut and my mind tell me scenario 1 is more likely. i am sorry, i do not think i am being pessimistic here, i think i am being realistic about the obvious and long demonstrated malice of this rabid kooky mafia cult
North Korea just launched a missile over other countries. What is your opinion?
Are you able to offer one that does not revolve around your obsession, the USA?
Do you see where I wrote " I ENCOURAGE you to criticize the USA." above? Did that statement make any impression on you?
Does therefore a criticism of a blind American patriotism on my part seem logical or reasonable to you?
Do you understand that it is entirely possible to criticize North Korea and still dislike the USA?
The issue is not my blind prejudicial love of the USA. Because I have none. The issue is your blind prejudicial dislike for the USA. which you have, because you have a mental inability to see actions by other country and... somehow not invoke the USA.
You completely and utterly do not understand the simple and obvious point I am making:
1. USA bad.
2. North Korea bad.
3. 100% ok to criticize North Korea when it launches a missile over other countries and...get this, I know far out and wacky concept... not be in love with the USA when you do that.
NO WAY!
What drives me nuts is this tribal thinking you are trapped in: an inability to see North Korea's actions, and the USA's actions, completely separately, when they obviously are. This sort of kneejerk tribal thinking you demonstrate is the source of wars in this world. Really. Look at World War II, wonder at what motivated the thinking of those who started it. Look in the mirror. The tribal thinking that motivated them, is alive and well in you.
make believe the USA does not exist. what are your opinions of the actions of North Korea?
is it possible in your mind to criticize the USA, which i ENCOURAGE you to do, AND criticize North Korea, at the same time?
or is your brain so heavily hardwired for cromagnon tribal posturing, that it is impossible for you to look at the actions of North Korea, and the actions of the USA, and not criticize them SEPARATELY AT THE SAME TIME
am i asking you to play chopin's opus 25 on the piano? am i asking you to walk on a wire over niagara falls?
why is it so fucking utterly beyond your dim mental abilities to be able to criticize North Korea without somehow invoking your dislike for the USA? why is that so hard for you?
look, over here: North Korea. got it? and now, over there: USA. different. separate. amazing right?
i ENCOURAGE you to criticize the USA. repeat: i ENCOURAGE you to criticize the USA. on the merits of the crimes the USA has committed in this world, which are many and large. do you understand me?
but maybe, just MAYBE, when the mafia family in pyongyang, when not busy starving its people and building nuclear bombs, decides to launch a missile over other countries, that you might just find the compunction somewhere within your dim cranium to... get this, i know, far out wacky thought.. .to criticize North Korea?
is kneejerk tribal rah rah rah all you are capable of?
simply put: morons hardwired to tribal, oppositional thinking, like you, represent the downfall of humanity. this really is the truth
Yes, a nerve has been touched. Gross ignorance, outright flaming stupidity, a humongous capacity to open one's mouth while the wattage in the cranium is dim: this insults me.
i'm sorry, i've patented that insult word in the context of internet flamewars. you owe me $5
who show up in every story that might possibly condemn another country
oh here they are:
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2783493&cid=39668133
hey, geniuses: it's actually mentally possible to... drum roll please... get this far out idea:
1. dislike country XYZ, and
2. dislike the USA,
3. at the same time!
no freakin way! i know, radically subversive mental concept huh?
get this piece of really far out thinking: you can actually condemn North Korea, and, still dislike the USA? whoa, heavy stuff
you don't actually have to defend a rabid civilian starving nuke pursuing nutcase mafia regime, just because you dislike the USA?
i know, i know, crazy far out concept huh?
you don't actually have to side with the USA to condemn North Korea... hmmm... that's some deep, wacky stuff
you mean... think and act on principles, rather than think on moronic tribal oppositional posturing?
wow, how come i never thought of that!
would this be like the hypocrisy that charles manson uses a gun, and the police use a gun, and so they are morally equivalent, and to criticize charles manson is hypocrisy?
or a burglar breaks into your home, and the government forces you to pay taxes, so its all the same thing: robbery... hypocrisy!
how about a drunk driver jumping the sidewalk and killing a pedestrian is the same as a drunk stumbling into a highway and getting hit... hypocrisy!
yeah hypocrisy! everything is morally equivalent!
please define the parameters in which the globally condemned mafia family who starves its people while it pursues nukes is the same as the government of the USA
bonus thought (if you can handle more than one thought at a time): it is not required to like the USA to agree with my comment. it is actually possible *gasp*, get this radical craziness!: to dislike North Korea, AND the USA, for different, REAL reasons... at the same time! no freakin way! for real?
rather than the genius level analysis you and parent poster demonstrate. "bad things from government A" = "bad things government B": hypocrisy!
durrr....duhh...
When you post something like this, you are really just loudly announcing your low IQ.
I am in no way defending the USA. The USA has done plenty wrong in the world. If you dislike the USA, you are free to criticize the USA. There is plenty I am unhappy about the USA's actions in this world. I ENCOURAGE you to criticize the USA.
But what I want you to try to do is criticize the USA on the merits of what the USA has done wrong. Not use global condemnation of the actions of a mafia family who starves its people and pursues nukes as an excuse to go "well, the USA is the same! hypocrisy!"
No, moron, you're wrong. Factually, objectively wrong, on simple and obvious facts an elementary school student can grasp about simple and obvious, undisputed facts of the governments of the two countries and their historical records.
That you think it is even remotely valid to compare the two nations on their actions and talk about hypocrisy is just an exercise in gross stupidity.
I am not flinging empty insults. I am using your words as the starting point for an objective analysis of your ability to look at world events and use basic mental skills like compare and contrast: you fail. Horribly. You are a moron. This is an objective appraisal of your IQ, not an empty insult.
Do yourself a favor and think and educate yourself. Then post your opinions on the Internet. Not that stupidity stops anyone from commenting, but maybe you can eventually grow mentally and come to appreciate where you fail so miserably in your thought processes here. Fucking pathetic.
don't bother arguing with the moron
all government action is an attempt to destroy freedom. just because it can, in his mind
the will of the people expressed through their government, the common good, these are alien concepts to the moron
the moron lives in a paranoid schizophrenic hollywood fantasy world where goose-stepping fascists want to give you anal probes. why? just because that's what government exists to do, in this moron's mind. they think agent smith in the matrix is what real life is like. this is a stupid person with deficient education and deficient social skills you are trying to reason with
the consequences of someone choosing not to get vaccinated is the possible death of a child not their own
how do you hold someone accountable for that?
the simple truth is, there is no freedom in this world without an equal amount of responsibility. those who behave irresponsibly reduce freedom for everyone. too many people posting about freedom and choice think of the ideas of freedom and choice from the perspective of a clueless teenager: that your actions exist in a vacuum of no consequences
all freedoms exist in tension in this world: your right to get a good nights sleep, my right to listen to loud music at 3 am, your right to stay alive, my right to speed as fast as i want
you need to stop thinking about freedoms in a vacuum, where your choices have no implication. the idea that the government is limiting people's freedoms by making vaccinations mandatory is bullshit. the idea that some irresponsible asshole is risking my life and the life of my children by choosing to be so stupid and so irresponsible as to not get vaccinated: THAT is the limitation on my freedom that needs to be opposed in the name of freedom: the freedom to live, without which, no other freedoms matter
limitations on your freedom in this world is NOT primarily from governments. limitations on your freedom in this world IS primarily due to the irresponsible actions of other individuals around you. that really is the truth: without responsibility, there is no freedom in this world, regardless of whatever any government ever does. freedom, and responsibility, comes from individual action. and where freedom is limited, look the stupid, the evil, the thieving, and the irresponsible individuals around you
i do not fear limitations on my freedom from my democratic government which suffers when it defies the popular will. i fear limitations on my freedom from the irresponsible individuals in my country
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herd_immunity
what you just wrote is stupid. i'm seriousness. the callousness you display can be manipulated just as much as any other form of stupidity
irony takes care of the rest of my comment
yes, she has blood on her hands, out of stupidity
this wakefield asshole knew better, and calculated the whole fraud. that's not stupid, it's evil, and the origin of this madness
evil is far worse than stupid
you're a moron. your opinion is based on abject fear and a pathological lack of basic human trust. the government in a democracy is an extension of the will of the people, not an alien rights abusing machine, despite whatever antisocial hysteria your feeble mind harbors
i'm really sick of retards like you polluting the conversation on subjects like this. there IS such a thing as the common good, and it will be enforced, in the name of THE PEOPLE. now go scream about the fascist government giving you anal probes, or whatever paranoid hysteria intellectually deficient losers like you fantasize about
no, completely different. there's no slipperly slope. government can force anyone to do anything. WHY they force someone to do something is something they have to defend, or the public agitates and politicians lose their jobs
mod parent up. my right to live is more important than your "right" not to be vaccinated.