they will change their colors (all the while speaking of tradition and moral certainty and decrying those who change their mind on anything, RINOs) and demagogue about some other antiprogressive social policy idiocy to get the support of the lower half of the iq curve of the USA. all for the unrelated agenda of those who bankroll their campaigns
anyone alive during the first obama presidency will come to be amazed and dumbfounded to hear the republicans say the ACA was their idea (which it actually was, in the 1990s, already proof of their lying and bullshit) sometime 2016-2020. after screaming high holy terror about it for the last four years
there is no ideological integrity on the right. they are morally and intellectually bankrupt. they stand for resistance simply for the sake of blind proud stubborn ignorance. that's the entire "substance" of the american right
as if someone's religious liberties are being trampled on because they can no longer trample on the actual real liberties of others
religious liberty dimwits: an actual denial of religious liberty by the government would be the government saying you can't go to church
meanwhile, you being unable to decide how other people who are not in your religion live their lives does not mean you have been denied religious liberty
at all, in any way
all the demagogues on the right now whining about religious liberty are either:
1. lying to you and laughing at you to get your support for another agenda
2. proving they are as fucking stupid as you by proving they don't know what the concept means
to believe religious liberty means you have a "right" to deny liberties to others so simply means you don't have a fucking clue what liberty and freedom really means
your "freedom" to oppress others never existed, was never promised by the founding fathers (the establishment clause: separation of state and church pretty much explicitly states that), and has absolutely nothing to do with freedom, except as an example of how fucking stupid people can be in their conception of what actual freedom really is
all that happened today is the government stepped in and *preserved* freedom by denying the "right" of literally oppressive bigots and blind stupid assholes from trampling the freedom and liberty of real americans
at some point in your life, you want to get out of the propaganda bubble of lies you live under, and actually try to understand and appreciate actual truth and reality you open your ignorant mouth on
yes, i would suppose that if you are extremely rich, you have no waiting periods and the best care. are you extremely rich you dumb fuck? is that how you build a health system: good for the extremely rich only?
what happens is the lying media you listen to lies to you, and your dim ignorant mind latches onto it in spite of actual reality, like "death panels". abject morons like yourself rant and rant and rant about it, when the actual fucking truth of the matter is in complete opposite to what you lied to propaganda victims "think"
you are a hopelessly ignorant propaganda victim. you are dumb. you are useless. you loudly shriek lies spoonfed to you and you believe media outlets which exist for the expressed reason to shovel propaganda. you're like russians who believe the west or ukraine hurt them somehow and so invading a sovereign country makes sense: propagandized retards. that is what you are, you are a completely moronic propagandized stupid useless asshole. objectively so, not a baseless insult: you believe lies, unquestioningly, then you shout the lies out and believe it wholeheartedly. how would you objectively describe a piece of shit who believes lies and never tries to understand real facts and shrieks the lies constantly when anyone tries to talk reason to them?
why do you like being a lied to moron? that's a serious question. because that is exactly what you are
why do you listen to and believe "media" which exists to shovel lies in the small skulls of dimwits? again, a serious question. that's is genuinely what you are in this world. that is genuinely what you are
zero respect to you ignorant propagandized piece of shit. you are without any use on this topic
absolutely should you shop around for nonemergency care. which is orthogonal to the main fucking point of what healthcare actually is. so thank you for stridently making your point which is secondary to the main fucking topic here, genius
it isn't affordable, you are correct. so we will go single payer and then have real ability to enforce pricing discipline. like every other fucking modern country, and even some of the not so modern countries
And yet it is still massively superior to the American Healthcare system beforehand.
Therefore, it is simply a tentative step forward, whose end game is single payer universal healthcare under the Democrat who wins 2016.
We have to take the first step, as weak as it is. And not in a million years can anyone claim that the ACA should not have happened, because the status quo beforehand was abysmal, and no one else has anything better to offer that would get past the screaming braindead hordes on the right that actually want expensive shoddy healthcare for some reason.
"The right doesn't want that!"
So offer something better.
crickets
Single payer universal healthcare is the endgame. There simply is no other real solution to our broken fucked up healthcare system.
is it still the case that a lonely developer can release an app he or she slaved over lovingly for months, only to see it ripped off and released by someone else who games the ranking system and reaps all the profits?
that seems to be the real threat to their app ecosystem
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it is absolutely amazing how the corporate agenda can take the shallow prejudices and hate of the common low iq idiot and spin out of that rabid support for policies which ensure the idiots die earlier and lose money. it's a craft how they play the morons so well
to all our detriment sadly
i hope some of them begin to notice. even the fucking solidly dumb can slowly and dimly become aware of the obvious and the fact they are being robbed... for "freedom"
all Scalia has is a bunch of mental masturbatory snark. the guy thinks he is so clever and witty, you can tell he likes listening to himself. thing is, he is a witty wordsmith, actually
but he's fucking wrong on the substance of the matter, and that's what really matters
the 17th was put in place so there would be less corruption and more accountability to the people instead of statehouse cronies
you actually get the intent of the 17th by getting money out of elections
which i am not saying is easy, but you're historically ignorant if you don't understand why the 17th amendment was ever adopted. it is for reasons far worse than what you are complaining about that are the result of the 17th
the nutty thing is, many americans believe freedom basically means no fucking rules whatsoever. which is not a state of freedom, but a free-for-all where a few win big and most lose. or the ability to freeload: they broke their arm, they go to the emegency room, then avoid the bill or declare bankruptcy because they want the "freedom" to not pay health insurance and pass the bill onto the rest of us
many americans believe freedom is "freedom" from consequences for irresponsibility. they are merely announcing that they don't understand what real freedom is
actual, real freedom means the ability to live a life genuinely *free* of pocketbook crippling or early life ending disease or infirmary
and to arrive at that, you have to have insurance. to not have that is not freedom, it's freeloading. because if you are injured or sick, you *will* go to the hospital because the pain is more powerful than your shallow teenaged "principles", and we *will* treat you, because we're not a cruel social darwinistic society, despite the fact some ignorant sadistic assholes wish it was
basically the status quo of the pathetic american healthcare system is the product of immature morons who don't even really understand what freedom is even as they whine and shout about it most loudly. the usa needs to have a single payer universal healthcare system like canada, uk, germany, etc.: all our common sense peers, yesterday
that we don't is only a sign of how fucked up we are because of propagandized immature morons who don't understand basic economics (healthcare is a natural monopoly) nor true freedom
you don't shop for care when you're having a heart attack or you have a broken arm or any emergency
you don't shop around for an oncologist when you have cancer (not that you don't have the time, you lack the knowledge to make an educate choice)
all you have done is enunciate related topics like doctor supply that does not disprove the fucking actual topic: healthcare is a natural monopoly. you need a hospital to cover a given area, and you don't shop around for various hospitals when you need emergency or knowledgeable care
please understand the fucking basic facts of a topic then open your ignorant mouth
or shut up, because you don't matter. all of our social and economic peers and even most countries less developed than us understand that healthcare has to be single payer. and they all spend far less than us and have higher quality care. so it doesn't matter what you think or what you say, history has passed you by, and we will drag the retarded propagandized wing of americans into the realm of common sense, and they will live longer and spend less on healthcare in spite of their abject ignorance
will you please do me a favor and please stop commenting on topics you obviously lack the basic iq to understand?
firefighting is a natural monopoly you ignorant dimwitted fuck
it's not one firehouse per city because a city is a big fucking place
durrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr...
at this point you are experiencing an amazing epiphany of the fucking obvious, or you are still intent on believing the amazingly fucking stupid and i'm wasting my time
but if you're just trolling me: be aware there are actually people so fucking ignorant as to not understand these simple points, and they open their ignorant mouths and help keep our healthcare system ruinous, so it's really not a funny trolling topic
nobody can magically price something lower when the system is a natural monopoly. only single payer can keep the prices low
healthcare is not free market. free market rules do not apply. never did. never will
to believe so is simply the low wattage mental vomit of simpleton losers who don't understand how economics or the real world actually works, and substitute low iq wish fulfillment fantasizing
please educate yourself on a topic. *actual education* on economics. not fox news corporate propaganda authored by the health insurance companies who don't want to lose their parasitical rent seeking, and fanatically believed by complete retards who argue for their own bankruptcy and poor health
so when you're bleeding to death or having a heart attack you shop around for the best price, right?
how many different fire houses does a given city have, genius?
does that negate the natural monopoly of fire emegencies?
in fact, fire departments actually used to be private companies. they used to arrive at a fire as fast as possible, then start beating each other up like gangs for the privilege of who would put out the fire. absolutely true
should fire departments not put out fires in structures that don't pay their fire dept insurance? should they give bills to people that, if not paid, means your house burn down?
you can see how fucking retarded that is
and we luckily beat the *corruption* and got rid of the stupid system and now have professional fire fighting forces
so why are you such a fucking propagandized moron you can't see the same lessons apply to health care?
but what it does is plainly acknowledge that american healthcare is an grossly inefficient piece of shit. our system is insanely expensive and people avoid basic healthcare. because of the misguided notion that capitalism has anything to do with a basic right. there is no competition in healthcare, it is a *natural monopoly* (look it up, retards). all we will ever get in the system that makes believe there is competition, because free market fairies and unicorns, is rent seeking parasites funneling money off for no added benefit, and paying congresscritters top keep it that way. and of course propagandized fox news morons believing the scaremongering ignorance that they shovel out should we try to get a better system
all of our social and economic peers spend A TENTH OR LESS WHAT WE SPEND, AND HAVE FAR BETTER HEALTH OUTCOMES. ask any canadian, british, french, german, japanese, australian: our system scares the hell out of them, they shake their heads in horror at what americans have to put up with. it's not about "freedom" unless you wish to be free from quality low cost healthcare (if you don't want to buy health insurance, you're basically saying you want to be a freeloader and avoid your bill... an irresponsible ignorant douchebag, not a freedom fighter)
republicans kick and scream. and offer nothing better
because they don't want to admit that they are ideologically bankrupt on the question. instead of admitting they are wrong, they have no problem with americans having extremely expensive, shoddy healthcare, and dying too early and broke. there's your "death panels": lower middle class? fuck you, go bankrupt and die
again, obamacare is horribly imperfect, but it's the first step and a basic acknowledgment of how broken our system is
and now we must take the other 1,000 steps we need to take to reach single payer universal healthcare, the only fucking answer that makes any fucking sense on the subject of a functional healthcare system
i'm sorry so many americans are so fucking stupid and ideologically blinded that they would rather have extremely expensive healthcare or just plain die, rather taen understand or admit the fucking obvious. but you morons won't hold us back from what is obvious to anyone moderately intelligent on the topic and not propagandized by right leaning media lies
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they will change their colors (all the while speaking of tradition and moral certainty and decrying those who change their mind on anything, RINOs) and demagogue about some other antiprogressive social policy idiocy to get the support of the lower half of the iq curve of the USA. all for the unrelated agenda of those who bankroll their campaigns
anyone alive during the first obama presidency will come to be amazed and dumbfounded to hear the republicans say the ACA was their idea (which it actually was, in the 1990s, already proof of their lying and bullshit) sometime 2016-2020. after screaming high holy terror about it for the last four years
there is no ideological integrity on the right. they are morally and intellectually bankrupt. they stand for resistance simply for the sake of blind proud stubborn ignorance. that's the entire "substance" of the american right
as if someone's religious liberties are being trampled on because they can no longer trample on the actual real liberties of others
religious liberty dimwits: an actual denial of religious liberty by the government would be the government saying you can't go to church
meanwhile, you being unable to decide how other people who are not in your religion live their lives does not mean you have been denied religious liberty
at all, in any way
all the demagogues on the right now whining about religious liberty are either:
1. lying to you and laughing at you to get your support for another agenda
2. proving they are as fucking stupid as you by proving they don't know what the concept means
to believe religious liberty means you have a "right" to deny liberties to others so simply means you don't have a fucking clue what liberty and freedom really means
your "freedom" to oppress others never existed, was never promised by the founding fathers (the establishment clause: separation of state and church pretty much explicitly states that), and has absolutely nothing to do with freedom, except as an example of how fucking stupid people can be in their conception of what actual freedom really is
all that happened today is the government stepped in and *preserved* freedom by denying the "right" of literally oppressive bigots and blind stupid assholes from trampling the freedom and liberty of real americans
at some point in your life, you want to get out of the propaganda bubble of lies you live under, and actually try to understand and appreciate actual truth and reality you open your ignorant mouth on
http://www.washingtonpost.com/...
yes, i would suppose that if you are extremely rich, you have no waiting periods and the best care. are you extremely rich you dumb fuck? is that how you build a health system: good for the extremely rich only?
as to your lies on waiting periods:
http://theincidentaleconomist....
what happens is the lying media you listen to lies to you, and your dim ignorant mind latches onto it in spite of actual reality, like "death panels". abject morons like yourself rant and rant and rant about it, when the actual fucking truth of the matter is in complete opposite to what you lied to propaganda victims "think"
you are a hopelessly ignorant propaganda victim. you are dumb. you are useless. you loudly shriek lies spoonfed to you and you believe media outlets which exist for the expressed reason to shovel propaganda. you're like russians who believe the west or ukraine hurt them somehow and so invading a sovereign country makes sense: propagandized retards. that is what you are, you are a completely moronic propagandized stupid useless asshole. objectively so, not a baseless insult: you believe lies, unquestioningly, then you shout the lies out and believe it wholeheartedly. how would you objectively describe a piece of shit who believes lies and never tries to understand real facts and shrieks the lies constantly when anyone tries to talk reason to them?
why do you like being a lied to moron? that's a serious question. because that is exactly what you are
why do you listen to and believe "media" which exists to shovel lies in the small skulls of dimwits? again, a serious question. that's is genuinely what you are in this world. that is genuinely what you are
zero respect to you ignorant propagandized piece of shit. you are without any use on this topic
absolutely should you shop around for nonemergency care. which is orthogonal to the main fucking point of what healthcare actually is. so thank you for stridently making your point which is secondary to the main fucking topic here, genius
scalia is a blowhard ideologue. he has no business being a supreme
it isn't affordable, you are correct. so we will go single payer and then have real ability to enforce pricing discipline. like every other fucking modern country, and even some of the not so modern countries
sorry moron, doesn't work. ideological fever dreams incompatible with reality and basic economics
The ACA is a broken grotesque mess.
And yet it is still massively superior to the American Healthcare system beforehand.
Therefore, it is simply a tentative step forward, whose end game is single payer universal healthcare under the Democrat who wins 2016.
We have to take the first step, as weak as it is. And not in a million years can anyone claim that the ACA should not have happened, because the status quo beforehand was abysmal, and no one else has anything better to offer that would get past the screaming braindead hordes on the right that actually want expensive shoddy healthcare for some reason.
"The right doesn't want that!"
So offer something better.
crickets
Single payer universal healthcare is the endgame. There simply is no other real solution to our broken fucked up healthcare system.
maybe i'm behind the news curve but...
is it still the case that a lonely developer can release an app he or she slaved over lovingly for months, only to see it ripped off and released by someone else who games the ranking system and reaps all the profits?
that seems to be the real threat to their app ecosystem
https://play.google.com/about/...
doesn't seem strong enough to me
it is absolutely amazing how the corporate agenda can take the shallow prejudices and hate of the common low iq idiot and spin out of that rabid support for policies which ensure the idiots die earlier and lose money. it's a craft how they play the morons so well
to all our detriment sadly
i hope some of them begin to notice. even the fucking solidly dumb can slowly and dimly become aware of the obvious and the fact they are being robbed... for "freedom"
genuine freedom is not the "freedom" to be irresponsible
exactly, well said
-Chief Justice Roberts
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/...
all Scalia has is a bunch of mental masturbatory snark. the guy thinks he is so clever and witty, you can tell he likes listening to himself. thing is, he is a witty wordsmith, actually
but he's fucking wrong on the substance of the matter, and that's what really matters
the 17th was put in place so there would be less corruption and more accountability to the people instead of statehouse cronies
you actually get the intent of the 17th by getting money out of elections
which i am not saying is easy, but you're historically ignorant if you don't understand why the 17th amendment was ever adopted. it is for reasons far worse than what you are complaining about that are the result of the 17th
the nutty thing is, many americans believe freedom basically means no fucking rules whatsoever. which is not a state of freedom, but a free-for-all where a few win big and most lose. or the ability to freeload: they broke their arm, they go to the emegency room, then avoid the bill or declare bankruptcy because they want the "freedom" to not pay health insurance and pass the bill onto the rest of us
many americans believe freedom is "freedom" from consequences for irresponsibility. they are merely announcing that they don't understand what real freedom is
actual, real freedom means the ability to live a life genuinely *free* of pocketbook crippling or early life ending disease or infirmary
and to arrive at that, you have to have insurance. to not have that is not freedom, it's freeloading. because if you are injured or sick, you *will* go to the hospital because the pain is more powerful than your shallow teenaged "principles", and we *will* treat you, because we're not a cruel social darwinistic society, despite the fact some ignorant sadistic assholes wish it was
basically the status quo of the pathetic american healthcare system is the product of immature morons who don't even really understand what freedom is even as they whine and shout about it most loudly. the usa needs to have a single payer universal healthcare system like canada, uk, germany, etc.: all our common sense peers, yesterday
that we don't is only a sign of how fucked up we are because of propagandized immature morons who don't understand basic economics (healthcare is a natural monopoly) nor true freedom
what's it like being a lying shitbag?
funnily on topic:
https://twitter.com/jk_rowling...
you don't shop for care when you're having a heart attack or you have a broken arm or any emergency
you don't shop around for an oncologist when you have cancer (not that you don't have the time, you lack the knowledge to make an educate choice)
all you have done is enunciate related topics like doctor supply that does not disprove the fucking actual topic: healthcare is a natural monopoly. you need a hospital to cover a given area, and you don't shop around for various hospitals when you need emergency or knowledgeable care
please understand the fucking basic facts of a topic then open your ignorant mouth
or shut up, because you don't matter. all of our social and economic peers and even most countries less developed than us understand that healthcare has to be single payer. and they all spend far less than us and have higher quality care. so it doesn't matter what you think or what you say, history has passed you by, and we will drag the retarded propagandized wing of americans into the realm of common sense, and they will live longer and spend less on healthcare in spite of their abject ignorance
will you please do me a favor and please stop commenting on topics you obviously lack the basic iq to understand?
firefighting is a natural monopoly you ignorant dimwitted fuck
it's not one firehouse per city because a city is a big fucking place
durrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr...
at this point you are experiencing an amazing epiphany of the fucking obvious, or you are still intent on believing the amazingly fucking stupid and i'm wasting my time
but if you're just trolling me: be aware there are actually people so fucking ignorant as to not understand these simple points, and they open their ignorant mouths and help keep our healthcare system ruinous, so it's really not a funny trolling topic
here, moron:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/...
nobody can magically price something lower when the system is a natural monopoly. only single payer can keep the prices low
healthcare is not free market. free market rules do not apply. never did. never will
to believe so is simply the low wattage mental vomit of simpleton losers who don't understand how economics or the real world actually works, and substitute low iq wish fulfillment fantasizing
please educate yourself on a topic. *actual education* on economics. not fox news corporate propaganda authored by the health insurance companies who don't want to lose their parasitical rent seeking, and fanatically believed by complete retards who argue for their own bankruptcy and poor health
so when you're bleeding to death or having a heart attack you shop around for the best price, right?
how many different fire houses does a given city have, genius?
does that negate the natural monopoly of fire emegencies?
in fact, fire departments actually used to be private companies. they used to arrive at a fire as fast as possible, then start beating each other up like gangs for the privilege of who would put out the fire. absolutely true
http://jasoncochran.com/blog/w...
should fire departments not put out fires in structures that don't pay their fire dept insurance? should they give bills to people that, if not paid, means your house burn down?
you can see how fucking retarded that is
and we luckily beat the *corruption* and got rid of the stupid system and now have professional fire fighting forces
so why are you such a fucking propagandized moron you can't see the same lessons apply to health care?
obamacare is obviously grotesque
but what it does is plainly acknowledge that american healthcare is an grossly inefficient piece of shit. our system is insanely expensive and people avoid basic healthcare. because of the misguided notion that capitalism has anything to do with a basic right. there is no competition in healthcare, it is a *natural monopoly* (look it up, retards). all we will ever get in the system that makes believe there is competition, because free market fairies and unicorns, is rent seeking parasites funneling money off for no added benefit, and paying congresscritters top keep it that way. and of course propagandized fox news morons believing the scaremongering ignorance that they shovel out should we try to get a better system
all of our social and economic peers spend A TENTH OR LESS WHAT WE SPEND, AND HAVE FAR BETTER HEALTH OUTCOMES. ask any canadian, british, french, german, japanese, australian: our system scares the hell out of them, they shake their heads in horror at what americans have to put up with. it's not about "freedom" unless you wish to be free from quality low cost healthcare (if you don't want to buy health insurance, you're basically saying you want to be a freeloader and avoid your bill... an irresponsible ignorant douchebag, not a freedom fighter)
republicans kick and scream. and offer nothing better
because they don't want to admit that they are ideologically bankrupt on the question. instead of admitting they are wrong, they have no problem with americans having extremely expensive, shoddy healthcare, and dying too early and broke. there's your "death panels": lower middle class? fuck you, go bankrupt and die
again, obamacare is horribly imperfect, but it's the first step and a basic acknowledgment of how broken our system is
and now we must take the other 1,000 steps we need to take to reach single payer universal healthcare, the only fucking answer that makes any fucking sense on the subject of a functional healthcare system
i'm sorry so many americans are so fucking stupid and ideologically blinded that they would rather have extremely expensive healthcare or just plain die, rather taen understand or admit the fucking obvious. but you morons won't hold us back from what is obvious to anyone moderately intelligent on the topic and not propagandized by right leaning media lies
is that just an idea or does such a scheme already exist in place somewhere?
actually voter turn out is low and keeps going down. mainly because people do understand that money has rendered their influence null
so you stand against money corrupting our government. right?
you win if you take the money. if you don't take the money you lose. so you need to change the rules
do you understand?
are you for corruption or against it? do you stand for money in elections or not? make up your fucking mind you dimwit