let the manipulators have free reign. because the only true bulwark against manipulation is people's own judgments. and the best way to build a good bullshit meter is to expose it to a lot of bullshit
meanwhile, if you destroy all of the sources of propaganda in this world, you merely breed a bunch of people who wouldn't know propaganda if they saw it
this is in fact one of the values of free speech. you don't realize it, but the implication of your words above is censorship. obviously, you are against censorship, so realize why your words above are wrong
with free speech, everything get spoken. all ideas. all of the bad ones and all of the evil ones, along with the good and intelligent ones. people must sort through all fo the bullshit in order to find the best ideas, and the only way they can do that is to be exposed to all of the propaganda and bullshit in the world to know it when they see it
there is no omnipotent governmental source to tell you what is a good idea or bad idea, you need to judge it for yourself. that is why i say don't censor racism or religious bigotry for example. let it out there, for everyone to see and be exposed to, so that most everyone rejects it. yes, a few feeble minds will accept the bullshit, but feeble minds will do feeble things no matter how much you shield them. it is far better to get the bullshit out there, to strengthen and train the majority of good minds out there
oh and btw, marijuana should be legal, but highly addictive and inebriating drugs like heroin, coke, and meth must be fought for ever. simply because yes, the negative effects of the war on drugs is real, but the negative effects of more tolerance of highly addictive/ inebriating is drugs is far worse
but i fully support your right to say the war on drugs is wrong. so when challenged and asked to defend your beliefs, other people who hear you will come to realize why your way of thinking is wrong;-)
for heroin, coke, and meth, the war on drugs must go on forever, merely a maintenance function of civilization. its like taking out the trash. if you dont take out the trash, your house becomes unliveable. if you don't clean up the inevitable drug addicts and drug dealers in society, society becomes unliveable. they accumulate. so the war on drugs is really the same as "the war on trash";-)
now you have to realize that that phenomenon of human nature is a solid, unmoving factor in and of itself. that yes, someone is factually wrong on the perceived risk, but being factually wrong never stopped anyone from being a human being
in other words, simply saying that human nature is often irrational does not stop people from being irrational. and asking people to suddenly behave in ways no human group has ever behaved in the history of humanity, in every time period, in every culture, is not truth, or wisdom, or intelligence
you see a lot of people here saying "it is stupid to do {xyz}"
well yes, it is, but that doesn't stop people from doing {xyz}, so you haven't actually solved the problem
actually, the top post in this thread was attacking people for exactly saying that (saying that the whole of Islam and the Muslim world may be fairly judged as being indistinguishable from the Taliban)
the more people who think like this, the better the world is
the more people divest themselves of their simple human responsibility to take care of the world, the worse the world is
it really is as simple as that
and sometimes i wonder if some (i said SOME not ALL) criticism of the usa is really just anger at the usa doing a job no one else wants to do. a job that if everyone just ignores does not go away on its own. just because the job is ugly, not because the job is wrong. kind of like how many people are always cricisizing the police. even though they enjoy the stablity in society that police provide, and if there were no police, the same people that have nothing but words of criticism for the police would be begging for police
people are very shortsighted. and the whine and complain. even when they are totally wrong
you are also responsible for the taliban. so is everyone else. what kind of insanity is this? it's the notion that you are responsible for the world you live in. the more people think like that, the better the world is
you, all of us, have to actively fight the scourge of religious fundamentalism in the world. passive acceptance of religious fundamentalism is not a morally or intellectually defensible position. religious fundamentalism is a weed. it must be actively hunted down and destroyed for being the evil it is, or it will spread in our neglect, and strangle us all: bring civilization and progress in decline, and fill the world with ignorance
religious fundamentalism does not disappear on its own. it actively breeds and spreads its hateful ideology. therefore, you must forever more eradicate it. its a simple maintenance function of human civilization, a taking out of the mental trash. if you don't take out the trash, your house begins to stink and becomes unliveable. if religious fundamentalists are not opposed, civilization stagnates and becomes backwards and oppressive and cruel
this is actually a big hurdle for many people. they enjoy the fruits of enlightened society and tolerant ideology, but they are hesitant to defend tolerance, or even admit that it is threatened. they see in the effort to defend enlightenment a seed of the very avarice that must be fought in order to preserve enlightment. and they react to that seed instead of the slobbering monster hellbent on destroying the tolerance they hold so dear
tolerance of intolerance is intolerance by extension. intolerance of intolerance is tolerance by extension
people need to learn this. you must defend civilization form religious fundamentalism. because religious fundamentalism is most certainly hard at work destroying all of the enlightened thought you hold so dear
try not to walk into that conversation acting exactly like that stereotype
the stereotype being: someone who is afraid of nothing
i warned that someone who is afraid of nothing, AND someone who is afraid of everything, are the extremes you want to avoid in behavior
the moderate, wise, prudent individual worries about something
the extremist idiots worry about nothing, or everything
and here you are, right on queue, telling us there is nothing to worry about
and you accuse me of being worried about everything, right after i said that such a person was stupid, in my own words, in the post you are replying to
anything that is landline based is usually blown to smithereens in the prolonged effort to keep the people of afghanistan in the middle ages, where the ideology of the taliban actually works
needs to control their radicals. of course the majority of muslims are moderate. but if their radicals are allowed free reign, the muslim world invites deserved criticism
the usa gets plenty of criticism for its actions in the world. much of it deserved. do you think the usa deserves no criticism? of course you don't
so, in the spirit of an open mind, you accept that the muslim world deserves criticism as well
there are some xenophobic bigots who are doing the criticism of the muslim world, yes. there are also some mindless bigots criticizing the usa
the point is, the existence of these bigots does not mean that all criticism of the muslim world, or criticism of the usa, is simple bigotry or without merit
so if you dismiss all criticism of the muslim world out of hand, simply because you think it is all bigotry, it is you, as well as the bigots, with a closed, simple partisan kneejerk mind
you have a very cocooned and typical point of view of a lot western children (children in mind, if not actual chronological age), who have seen no real menace in their lives, and therefore see no reason to fight menace. this coddled pampered view becomes so stilted as to actually see menace in that which exists to protect them from menace. this is a flawed perspective on the reality of the world we live in, that is only possible to develop if you live in a hermetically sealed climate controlled world, disconnected form the reality that the majority of humans currently lived and have lived in history, in so far as life experience with no threats to your life and beliefs are concerned
go live in a slum in manila or calcutta for a month. then revisit us with how that has changed your persective on whether or not you are really vulnerable or not to things you currently perceive as nonentities unrelated to your existence
if we calculated risk based on actuary tables, we would probably be better for it
but we don't. and we never will
therefore, the deeper lesson is that human emotion carries into the equations. and talking about the issues without taking human emotion into account is wishful thinking, and ultimately fruitless thinking, since you will never remove human emotion from the equation, we will never become emotionless machines
in other words, talking about risks as related to terrorism and pedophilia as something cold and rational seems to be the intelligent alternative to hysteria. but an even more intelligent approach is to consider the consequences and causes of the hysteria as well, because the more intelligent person realizes the hysteria will never go away. we are talking about the behavior of human beings arer we not? do you understand the full ramifications of that fact? it is a quantity you must account for in your thinking, or your thinking does not adequately address reality
in other words, your understanding of the issues seems to be summed up by actuary tables comparing relative risks. this is only part of the concepts in play. i won't be condescending and talk about the other (pretty obvious) concepts, but what i will say is that if statistics were the only way to think about these issues, the world be a lot simpler place. unfortunately, it isn't so simple
somewhere between false alarmism and false complacency is reality. some people drift too much towards alarmism, some people drift towards complacency. both extremes are wrong
you can always ferret out such people. the ones who see threats everywhere should be avoided. the ones who see no threat from anything anywhere should be avoided
but too much on slashdot you see a lot of warnings about dread and hysteria. well, the opposite is to be warned away from too: complacency has just as many dangers about it as hysteria
child abuse is real. terrorism is real. how much should you be concerned about either? it's obviously low but it's also obviously not zero. avoid those who aren't concerned at all and those who see pedophiles and terrorists around every corner, and you'll do ok in life
that they should give up some tech, and increase the risk to their lives? or give some tech to an enemy? i don't understand what motivates your thinking
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hard at work, CERN's scientists are now the Large Hadron Collider, they are building brought us the W and Z particles, the fine people did anti-hydrogen atoms and hyperlinked porn web pages, they brought us as well, they did to discover something even cooler, they are the Force, it is that Force, yes, it is carries a field, it does, the particle interacts with every living or inert matter, it does the Higgs boson, it is call it so, physicists do
i think in the future when someone asks me what i mean by ridiculous theory grounded in zero real life experience, i shall refer to your post above
dude: you seriously have no idea how real human behavior works. oh i'm certain you think you do, but by your post above, you are revealing yourself to be a young naive college kid with a lot philosophy textbooks under your belt but absolutely no association with the expectations and challenges of your average family household... in any country, in any era of human existence
you are expecting human beings to behave in ways no human being has ever behaved. hardly the basis to comment intelligently on the subject matter
would it be feasible to host, for example, 100 different websites on one ip using header information? or does that have traffic spike issues/ latency issues/ wasted cycles involved?
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let the manipulators have free reign. because the only true bulwark against manipulation is people's own judgments. and the best way to build a good bullshit meter is to expose it to a lot of bullshit
;-)
;-)
meanwhile, if you destroy all of the sources of propaganda in this world, you merely breed a bunch of people who wouldn't know propaganda if they saw it
this is in fact one of the values of free speech. you don't realize it, but the implication of your words above is censorship. obviously, you are against censorship, so realize why your words above are wrong
with free speech, everything get spoken. all ideas. all of the bad ones and all of the evil ones, along with the good and intelligent ones. people must sort through all fo the bullshit in order to find the best ideas, and the only way they can do that is to be exposed to all of the propaganda and bullshit in the world to know it when they see it
there is no omnipotent governmental source to tell you what is a good idea or bad idea, you need to judge it for yourself. that is why i say don't censor racism or religious bigotry for example. let it out there, for everyone to see and be exposed to, so that most everyone rejects it. yes, a few feeble minds will accept the bullshit, but feeble minds will do feeble things no matter how much you shield them. it is far better to get the bullshit out there, to strengthen and train the majority of good minds out there
oh and btw, marijuana should be legal, but highly addictive and inebriating drugs like heroin, coke, and meth must be fought for ever. simply because yes, the negative effects of the war on drugs is real, but the negative effects of more tolerance of highly addictive/ inebriating is drugs is far worse
but i fully support your right to say the war on drugs is wrong. so when challenged and asked to defend your beliefs, other people who hear you will come to realize why your way of thinking is wrong
for heroin, coke, and meth, the war on drugs must go on forever, merely a maintenance function of civilization. its like taking out the trash. if you dont take out the trash, your house becomes unliveable. if you don't clean up the inevitable drug addicts and drug dealers in society, society becomes unliveable. they accumulate. so the war on drugs is really the same as "the war on trash"
now you have to realize that that phenomenon of human nature is a solid, unmoving factor in and of itself. that yes, someone is factually wrong on the perceived risk, but being factually wrong never stopped anyone from being a human being
in other words, simply saying that human nature is often irrational does not stop people from being irrational. and asking people to suddenly behave in ways no human group has ever behaved in the history of humanity, in every time period, in every culture, is not truth, or wisdom, or intelligence
you see a lot of people here saying "it is stupid to do {xyz}"
well yes, it is, but that doesn't stop people from doing {xyz}, so you haven't actually solved the problem
contradicting yourself in your own words
read your post above, and observe the following, then get back to me when you figure out how to reconcile the contradictions in your own statements:
0 != 0.00001
that"
actually, the top post in this thread was attacking people for exactly saying that (saying that the whole of Islam and the Muslim world may be fairly judged as being indistinguishable from the Taliban)
you are responsible for the taliban
no really, you are
and so is everyone else
the more people who think like this, the better the world is
the more people divest themselves of their simple human responsibility to take care of the world, the worse the world is
it really is as simple as that
and sometimes i wonder if some (i said SOME not ALL) criticism of the usa is really just anger at the usa doing a job no one else wants to do. a job that if everyone just ignores does not go away on its own. just because the job is ugly, not because the job is wrong. kind of like how many people are always cricisizing the police. even though they enjoy the stablity in society that police provide, and if there were no police, the same people that have nothing but words of criticism for the police would be begging for police
people are very shortsighted. and the whine and complain. even when they are totally wrong
you are also responsible for the taliban. so is everyone else. what kind of insanity is this? it's the notion that you are responsible for the world you live in. the more people think like that, the better the world is
you, all of us, have to actively fight the scourge of religious fundamentalism in the world. passive acceptance of religious fundamentalism is not a morally or intellectually defensible position. religious fundamentalism is a weed. it must be actively hunted down and destroyed for being the evil it is, or it will spread in our neglect, and strangle us all: bring civilization and progress in decline, and fill the world with ignorance
religious fundamentalism does not disappear on its own. it actively breeds and spreads its hateful ideology. therefore, you must forever more eradicate it. its a simple maintenance function of human civilization, a taking out of the mental trash. if you don't take out the trash, your house begins to stink and becomes unliveable. if religious fundamentalists are not opposed, civilization stagnates and becomes backwards and oppressive and cruel
this is actually a big hurdle for many people. they enjoy the fruits of enlightened society and tolerant ideology, but they are hesitant to defend tolerance, or even admit that it is threatened. they see in the effort to defend enlightenment a seed of the very avarice that must be fought in order to preserve enlightment. and they react to that seed instead of the slobbering monster hellbent on destroying the tolerance they hold so dear
tolerance of intolerance is intolerance by extension. intolerance of intolerance is tolerance by extension
people need to learn this. you must defend civilization form religious fundamentalism. because religious fundamentalism is most certainly hard at work destroying all of the enlightened thought you hold so dear
you're the first person who has me marked as a foe on slashdot that i have marked as a friend on slashdot
you have written my own thoughts better than i could ever write them
try not to walk into that conversation acting exactly like that stereotype
the stereotype being: someone who is afraid of nothing
i warned that someone who is afraid of nothing, AND someone who is afraid of everything, are the extremes you want to avoid in behavior
the moderate, wise, prudent individual worries about something
the extremist idiots worry about nothing, or everything
and here you are, right on queue, telling us there is nothing to worry about
and you accuse me of being worried about everything, right after i said that such a person was stupid, in my own words, in the post you are replying to
incredible, the blindness
anything that is landline based is usually blown to smithereens in the prolonged effort to keep the people of afghanistan in the middle ages, where the ideology of the taliban actually works
needs to control their radicals. of course the majority of muslims are moderate. but if their radicals are allowed free reign, the muslim world invites deserved criticism
the usa gets plenty of criticism for its actions in the world. much of it deserved. do you think the usa deserves no criticism? of course you don't
so, in the spirit of an open mind, you accept that the muslim world deserves criticism as well
there are some xenophobic bigots who are doing the criticism of the muslim world, yes. there are also some mindless bigots criticizing the usa
the point is, the existence of these bigots does not mean that all criticism of the muslim world, or criticism of the usa, is simple bigotry or without merit
so if you dismiss all criticism of the muslim world out of hand, simply because you think it is all bigotry, it is you, as well as the bigots, with a closed, simple partisan kneejerk mind
you have a very cocooned and typical point of view of a lot western children (children in mind, if not actual chronological age), who have seen no real menace in their lives, and therefore see no reason to fight menace. this coddled pampered view becomes so stilted as to actually see menace in that which exists to protect them from menace. this is a flawed perspective on the reality of the world we live in, that is only possible to develop if you live in a hermetically sealed climate controlled world, disconnected form the reality that the majority of humans currently lived and have lived in history, in so far as life experience with no threats to your life and beliefs are concerned
go live in a slum in manila or calcutta for a month. then revisit us with how that has changed your persective on whether or not you are really vulnerable or not to things you currently perceive as nonentities unrelated to your existence
if we calculated risk based on actuary tables, we would probably be better for it
but we don't. and we never will
therefore, the deeper lesson is that human emotion carries into the equations. and talking about the issues without taking human emotion into account is wishful thinking, and ultimately fruitless thinking, since you will never remove human emotion from the equation, we will never become emotionless machines
in other words, talking about risks as related to terrorism and pedophilia as something cold and rational seems to be the intelligent alternative to hysteria. but an even more intelligent approach is to consider the consequences and causes of the hysteria as well, because the more intelligent person realizes the hysteria will never go away. we are talking about the behavior of human beings arer we not? do you understand the full ramifications of that fact? it is a quantity you must account for in your thinking, or your thinking does not adequately address reality
so is "context" "control" "damage" "intent" etc.
in other words, your understanding of the issues seems to be summed up by actuary tables comparing relative risks. this is only part of the concepts in play. i won't be condescending and talk about the other (pretty obvious) concepts, but what i will say is that if statistics were the only way to think about these issues, the world be a lot simpler place. unfortunately, it isn't so simple
somewhere between false alarmism and false complacency is reality. some people drift too much towards alarmism, some people drift towards complacency. both extremes are wrong
you can always ferret out such people. the ones who see threats everywhere should be avoided. the ones who see no threat from anything anywhere should be avoided
but too much on slashdot you see a lot of warnings about dread and hysteria. well, the opposite is to be warned away from too: complacency has just as many dangers about it as hysteria
child abuse is real. terrorism is real. how much should you be concerned about either? it's obviously low but it's also obviously not zero. avoid those who aren't concerned at all and those who see pedophiles and terrorists around every corner, and you'll do ok in life
that they should give up some tech, and increase the risk to their lives? or give some tech to an enemy? i don't understand what motivates your thinking
i love durian!
as well as promoting homicide, rape, and pedophilia, it is now proven scientific fact they promote a positive feeling about suicide!
the problem will be when the first astronaut from lichtenstein insists on bringing his limburger cheese
ugggh
try living in a tin can with the permeating odor of certain cheeses and millions of dollars will be needed to spent on suicide prevention measures
as it is, i believe astronauts have a problem with fungus and foot odor already
hmmm... on the other hand, maybe that actually prepares them well for limburger cheese, and it will be well tolerated?
just wait until the first indonesian or thai or filipino (a malaysian already went up) in space insists on bringing durian
hard at work, CERN's scientists are now
the Large Hadron Collider, they are building
brought us the W and Z particles, the fine people did
anti-hydrogen atoms and hyperlinked porn web pages, they brought us as well, they did
to discover something even cooler, they are
the Force, it is
that Force, yes, it is
carries a field, it does, the particle
interacts with every living or inert matter, it does
the Higgs boson, it is
call it so, physicists do
sony = john mccain
the globe and mail = the new york times
paying warner $400 million = giving a female lobbyist romantic influence
complete speculation = front page news
i think in the future when someone asks me what i mean by ridiculous theory grounded in zero real life experience, i shall refer to your post above
dude: you seriously have no idea how real human behavior works. oh i'm certain you think you do, but by your post above, you are revealing yourself to be a young naive college kid with a lot philosophy textbooks under your belt but absolutely no association with the expectations and challenges of your average family household... in any country, in any era of human existence
you are expecting human beings to behave in ways no human being has ever behaved. hardly the basis to comment intelligently on the subject matter
that argues for parental responsibility being the proper way to deal with internet issues and children, rather than an intrusive nanny state
and i agree with that sentiment
but here we have the suggestion that a 7 year old have an abstract password her parents can't guess
uh huh. the opinions of teenaged boys are apparently very worldly and experienced
work through the logical inconsistency, then update your opinion on a 7 year old's right to privacy from her parents
and told her that i liked her tatas
she slapped me
why does she hate fuel economy?
-whoopie cushion accessory sold separately
-refried beans encouraged for every meal in order to foster alternative energy adoption
-beano announced as an enemy of energy responsibility
would it be feasible to host, for example, 100 different websites on one ip using header information? or does that have traffic spike issues/ latency issues/ wasted cycles involved?