but for me to speak on topic, eliciting on topic responses... that's "trolling" according to you
meanwhile, all you seem to do is talk about *me*. why? how is that useful? how is that helpful to the topic? i'm not the topic douchebag
if you desire some sort of interpersonal friction, you might want to try a dating site. otherwise, shut the fuck up, and stay on topic, or you're a useless troll
and who are you? why would you have a strong opinion about me. do i know you? otherwise, to go after me personally, anonymously, this is what we call a troll
but do you consider that as big a problem as purposefully disenfranchising poor and black people with ridiculous id hurdles, gerrymandering bullshit districts, and rich people and corporations perverting the people's will with legalized corruption?
Voter fraud is a nonissue fearmongered and blown out of proportion to enact the real disenfranchisement: Republicans pass laws making voting harder for blacks and the poor.
It's interesting because it's a last ditch desperate effort to preserve a voting base of old white conservative people which is quite literally dying off.
Then there is the gerrymandering to make sure the Republican voters always dominate in any given Rorschach ink blot of a voting "district."
But after that, Republicans have a real problem keeping and growing a voter base.
Long term, they either die off, or they radically change their ideology.
can i take photos of you having sex with your significant other and put it on a billboard in your hometown? it's just free speech dude
everything has limits. including free speech. not because i say so, but because of simple logic and reason: it ends where it impinges on the freedoms of others. classic example: yelling fire in a crowded theatre
the fact that i recognize that freedoms are not boundless, but logically constrained by other people's freedoms, does not make me an authoritarian, it just makes me smarter than you
tomorrow it will be another collection of dozens of shootings
every fucking day in the usa. oh it happens in other countries. at a much lower rate. because they make guns harder for douchebags to get
the usa enjoys no amazing lower rate of rape, robbery, assault, etc., because of owning lots of guns, as compared to our social and economic peers, we are no crime free paradise. so owning a gun doesn't confer magic anti-crime properties. it does confer something though: a massive increase in homicide. pointlessly. needlessly. every little confusion or altercation in the usa has to lead to death. and this is somehow better
completely unnecessary, completely fucking stupid, and completely ok according to my fellow countrymen who are fucking braindead douchebags
we need gun control in the usa badly
and we are going to get it
you can't ward off logic and common sense with stupidity, lies, and propaganda forever
if i read something, i expect it to have a fucking point. your post, for example, has a point. but if it's a meandering brain diarrhea dump, i'm going to complain. i don't have the right to do that?
in London, you get in a fight and you get a broken arm or a broken nose
in New York City, you get in a fight and you get a body bag
whenever the homicide rate of the USA is compared to other Western countries, NRA propagandized morons change the subject and counter about *violence*. as if *violence* is the same as *homicide*
frankly, i'd love the violence rate in the usa to go up and the homicide rate to go down. because a broken arm is not a body bag
and you get that with better gun control
but too many of my fellow americans of the low iq and propagandized variety believe for some fucking ignorant reason that every little misunderstanding or conflict has to escalate to death
rape? robbery? violence? about the same as our social and economic peers
easy guns do not protect us from those things. they just mean tens of thousands of extra body bags every year
if anything, owning a gun increases the chance of mortality for you and your loved ones, because you've raised the stakes in every little act of confusion/ misunderstanding/ anger/ accident/ etc. to death
like what? child porn? incitement to murder? sure. i live in the West and i support suppression of that
like political criticism? religious satire? no. i do not support that
the country that limits a few vicious topics is not at all like the country that locks down all political speech threatening the political status quo
the former is very much a free country, the latter very much not a free country, and the difference is substantive and real and very serious
if you think a country that censors child porn is exactly the same as one that censors political speech, you're only announcing yourself as a moron who doesn't understand the topic
you really do have to spread the word about astroturfers paid by the chinese government to vomit propaganda on social media, most english speakers really are not aware of them
you've listed a bunch of red herrings, tangential topics, and pointless observations to say nothing valid or interesting at all on the topic
it's as if you lack the capacity for critical thought... or you are demonstrating a weak timid mind taught that to approach certain taboo topics and verboten observations leads to punishment
hmmm...
so here we see the mediocre fruitless mental quality of someone raised in a walled garden of a "harmonious" society of cotton headed propaganda tools
he is saying "if you don't want to be caught, do {y}"
he's giving advice that doesn't implicate him in anything, in an on topic comment
he doesn't owe you anything, so say "thanks"
or say nothing
or reveal the only real character defect in this thread, which is not being a bragging dipshit, but yours: loudmouth asshole begging for a pointless fight
and that pointless fight will find you someday. you'll mouth off like you just did, because you wrongly think it makes you superior, to the wrong character, and depending on how badly you lose the resulting conflict, you'll probably be thinking:
"should have just kept my mouth shut rather than cast unnecessary hate and i could have avoided this"
they are trapped in this figurative cage we call modern day living.
taking heroin is merely the temporary relief form the typical pains of existence we all experience, to be replaced with a far far worse and much greater pain of addiction
whatever problems you had in life before heroin, are now 100x worse after
You should stop dictating what choices other people make
i'm an empty voice on the internet, i have no power
meanwhile, a drug that rewires your basic reward pathways dictates to you with a freedom destroying, happiness destroying power many times greater than the most fascist authoritarian government of hate you can imagine
wake up from your poorly rationalized denial, or grow some true wisdom about what something like heroin really means to freedom and happiness
It's like having the worst girlfriend ever, who you are madly in love with but who treats you like shit, makes you sell your car and house and furniture and even your high school yearbook that your crush from 10th grade signed and told you that you were cute. She's told you to stop talking to anyone you've ever cared about, they don't want to talk to you while you're still dating her anyways. You sell your clothes so she can go out and buy new ones. You eat ramen every meal so she ca eat at the best restaurant in town. In the morning you think about her and in the evening you think about her and when you go to take a crap but you can't because you're constipated you're reminded of her. You wake up and if she's not in bed with you you get the chills, your eyes water, you have diarrhea, you sneeze, your muscles ache, you have anxiety, you have depression, you don't want to eat because food isn't appealing even though your stomach is rumbling, you don't particularly want to drink but you're dehydrated so you force yourself to drink some water, and during all this your skin is crawling as if it was dirty covered in goose-bumps from who knows where and you wish you were still asleep so you could at least pretend she was still in the bed with you. But you're awake now. So you get out of bed, and you go find her. Maybe today you won't have to do something that compromises your morals to find out where she's gone, but really you don't even care, as long as there is a way. You walk an hour and forty five minutes to get on the bus. You travel for another 45 minutes on public transportation. You get off at the train station in the bad part of town. All the while you have to shit so bad but you know once you find her that will be solved. You're hungry but dont want to eat, once you find her you can eat. You feel dirty and sad and anxious but once you find her she'll bathe you and make you happy and calm. But right now your walking through the ghetto. You walk another 20 minutes. Maybe it's cold and raining, if so you are so so so cold. Maybe it's hotter than hell and that just makes you feel dirtier. You find a guy that knows where she is. He says he'll go get her and bring her to you. And the cops pass you as you're talking to him and they have to know what's up. What's someone like you doing in this part of town? So the 10 minute wait for her to come back to you accompanied by the guy who could give two shits about you as long as you bring him money seems like an eternity. Maybe he'll run off with her and your money. Maybe she wont be looking so hot today, maybe she won't be herself. Maybe he'll come back with a woman you don't know and don't want to meet but now your money is gone and you're broke and sick and a good few hours away before you can get some more money and the world might as well be over in your opinion. But your girlfriend comes back, he brings her, and she gives you a kiss on the cheek. Then you go home, to your mattress and your overdue rent and the
in fact, their capacity for happiness has been permanently degraded, even after they kick the habit. whatever temporary pain they had has been replaced by a permanent reduction in range of choice. for now their very brain chemistry tells them to feed something that in no way contributes to their happiness or freedom. it is a monkey on their back
It's like having the worst girlfriend ever, who you are madly in love with but who treats you like shit, makes you sell your car and house and furniture and even your high school yearbook that your crush from 10th grade signed and told you that you were cute. She's told you to stop talking to anyone you've ever cared about, they don't want to talk to you while you're still dating her anyways. You sell your clothes so she can go out and buy new ones. You eat ramen every meal so she ca eat at the best restaurant in town. In the morning you think about her and in the evening you think about her and when you go to take a crap but you can't because you're constipated you're reminded of her. You wake up and if she's not in bed with you you get the chills, your eyes water, you have diarrhea, you sneeze, your muscles ache, you have anxiety, you have depression, you don't want to eat because food isn't appealing even though your stomach is rumbling, you don't particularly want to drink but you're dehydrated so you force yourself to drink some water, and during all this your skin is crawling as if it was dirty covered in goose-bumps from who knows where and you wish you were still asleep so you could at least pretend she was still in the bed with you. But you're awake now. So you get out of bed, and you go find her. Maybe today you won't have to do something that compromises your morals to find out where she's gone, but really you don't even care, as long as there is a way. You walk an hour and forty five minutes to get on the bus. You travel for another 45 minutes on public transportation. You get off at the train station in the bad part of town. All the while you have to shit so bad but you know once you find her that will be solved. You're hungry but dont want to eat, once you find her you can eat. You feel dirty and sad and anxious but once you find her she'll bathe you and make you happy and calm. But right now your walking through the ghetto. You walk another 20 minutes. Maybe it's cold and raining, if so you are so so so cold. Maybe it's hotter than hell and that just makes you feel dirtier. You find a guy that knows where she is. He says he'll go get her and bring her to you. And the cops pass you as you're talking to him and they have to know what's up. What's someone like you doing in this part of town? So the 10 minute wait for her to come back to you accompanied by the guy who could give two shits about you as long as you bring him money seems like an eternity. Maybe he'll run off with her and your money. Maybe she wont be looking so hot today, maybe she won't be herself. Maybe he'll come back with a woman you don't know and don't want to meet but now your money is gone and you're broke and sick and a good few hours away before you can get some more money and the world might as well be over in your opinion. But your girlfriend comes back, he brings her, and she gives you a kiss on the cheek. Then you go home, to your mattress and your overdue rent and the lack of food and the piled up bills and the same clothes you've been wearing for three days and your parents that have called but you never answer and your friends that invite you out but you never go, but you're home and she's there with you. Eventually you go to bed. But she's never there the next morning, and you know she won't be, and you wish someone invented a way to pause time, or go back in time, to that first time you met her, the first couple months when you guys hung out, before she made you sell everything to be with her, but you can't and you're fucked. And you know it.
You have nothing to back that assertion up... I might as well say nothing destroys freedom more than being an idiot arguing against drug legalisation on the internet... It's a baseless assertion.
i stopped reading there. if you understood the chemistry of opiates, you would understand they hijack basic reward pathways in the brain stronger than any want, desire, or need we could ever have: social contact, sex, even food
how can you take a thinking human being, root all of their wants, needs, and desires to opium instead, and not call that the destruction of freedom? i'm just an empty voice on the internet, i have no power over you. you think that's in the same league as a chemical which interrupts every single motivation possible?
take someone whose thought is art, philosophy, science... and replace it with a zombie that thinks... fix, fix, i need my fix. if i give you a lobotomy... are you as free as before the lobotomy? addiction is nothing but a chemical lobotomy
there is no better way to crystallize and perfect the destruction of human freedom, than at the very chemical roots of our brain
yes, if we lived in a utopia where all our needs were taken care of, and we had the tiny minds of fucking *rodents*, opiates might be easy to get off and on
but being creatures with complex minds aware of existential stresses and the simple pain and drudgery of daily life that no rat can conceptualize, there is no rat park that ever could be constructed that would satisfy us more than something like heroin
Agent Smith: Did you know that the first Matrix was designed to be a perfect human world? Where none suffered, where everyone would be happy. It was a disaster. No one would accept the program. Entire crops were lost. Some believed we lacked the programming language to describe your perfect world. But I believe that, as a species, human beings define their reality through suffering and misery. The perfect world was a dream that your primitive cerebrum kept trying to wake up from. Which is why the Matrix was redesigned to this: the peak of your civilization.
we're not rats. there is no rat park for us
because we *think*. and for those of us suicidal to replace reality with heroin, reality, as *humans* see it, is never better
that some cotton candy heads might actually *choose* to destroy their freedom is only a testament to ignorance, stubborn deluded cluelessness, desperate pain without proper social help, and loopy rationalizations
there is no greater fight at preserving and extending freedom than the basic maintenance effort of civilization to minimize the drug trade
drugs destroy lives and freedom at a root far deeper than any social hierarchy or political ideology: chemistry over mind
Slashdot Mirror
the topic is
Anonymous Asks Activists To Fight Pedophiles In 'Operation Deatheaters'
do you have anything useful to say on the topic?
that's what i tried to do, and i got many even tempered, thoughtful replies, on topic (except for yours)
http://slashdot.org/comments.p...
but for me to speak on topic, eliciting on topic responses... that's "trolling" according to you
meanwhile, all you seem to do is talk about *me*. why? how is that useful? how is that helpful to the topic? i'm not the topic douchebag
if you desire some sort of interpersonal friction, you might want to try a dating site. otherwise, shut the fuck up, and stay on topic, or you're a useless troll
i've commented on the topic. you've commented on me. who is not contributing substantively here exactly? therefore who is the troll?
and who are you? why would you have a strong opinion about me. do i know you? otherwise, to go after me personally, anonymously, this is what we call a troll
you'd be surprised
there are people who actually believe trading in and looking at child porn isn't a problem, that that is victimless, it's just pictures and video
(it creates demand, of course it's a fucking problem)
watch this thread, you'll see them commenting
yes, that's real
but do you consider that as big a problem as purposefully disenfranchising poor and black people with ridiculous id hurdles, gerrymandering bullshit districts, and rich people and corporations perverting the people's will with legalized corruption?
because random bus people are a grave threat to democracy
unlike gerrymandering, disenfranchisement, plutocratic corruption...
Voter fraud is a nonissue fearmongered and blown out of proportion to enact the real disenfranchisement: Republicans pass laws making voting harder for blacks and the poor.
http://www.theatlantic.com/pol...
It's interesting because it's a last ditch desperate effort to preserve a voting base of old white conservative people which is quite literally dying off.
Then there is the gerrymandering to make sure the Republican voters always dominate in any given Rorschach ink blot of a voting "district."
But after that, Republicans have a real problem keeping and growing a voter base.
Long term, they either die off, or they radically change their ideology.
so you're ok with child porn and death threats?
What part of my position is not clear? Yes.
i stopped reading there. you're a hopeless moron
seizure in the usa is already way out of control
the recent federal review of asset seizure laws is welcome, but weak:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/...
worrying about banks seizing funds is the least of your problems
call it zuckerbucks
it's for zuckers
so you're ok with child porn and death threats?
can i take photos of you having sex with your significant other and put it on a billboard in your hometown? it's just free speech dude
everything has limits. including free speech. not because i say so, but because of simple logic and reason: it ends where it impinges on the freedoms of others. classic example: yelling fire in a crowded theatre
the fact that i recognize that freedoms are not boundless, but logically constrained by other people's freedoms, does not make me an authoritarian, it just makes me smarter than you
go to google news
type in "shooting"
and let's dip into the ocean today
http://www.newsday.com/news/ne...
http://www.post-gazette.com/lo...
http://www.ketv.com/news/omaha...
http://www.twincities.com/crim...
http://miami.cbslocal.com/2015...
http://www.whsv.com/home/headl...
etc.
etc.
tomorrow it will be another collection of dozens of shootings
every fucking day in the usa. oh it happens in other countries. at a much lower rate. because they make guns harder for douchebags to get
the usa enjoys no amazing lower rate of rape, robbery, assault, etc., because of owning lots of guns, as compared to our social and economic peers, we are no crime free paradise. so owning a gun doesn't confer magic anti-crime properties. it does confer something though: a massive increase in homicide. pointlessly. needlessly. every little confusion or altercation in the usa has to lead to death. and this is somehow better
completely unnecessary, completely fucking stupid, and completely ok according to my fellow countrymen who are fucking braindead douchebags
we need gun control in the usa badly
and we are going to get it
you can't ward off logic and common sense with stupidity, lies, and propaganda forever
if i read something, i expect it to have a fucking point. your post, for example, has a point. but if it's a meandering brain diarrhea dump, i'm going to complain. i don't have the right to do that?
in London, you get in a fight and you get a broken arm or a broken nose
in New York City, you get in a fight and you get a body bag
whenever the homicide rate of the USA is compared to other Western countries, NRA propagandized morons change the subject and counter about *violence*. as if *violence* is the same as *homicide*
frankly, i'd love the violence rate in the usa to go up and the homicide rate to go down. because a broken arm is not a body bag
and you get that with better gun control
but too many of my fellow americans of the low iq and propagandized variety believe for some fucking ignorant reason that every little misunderstanding or conflict has to escalate to death
and that's exactly what we get:
http://www.conferenceboard.ca/...
rape? robbery? violence? about the same as our social and economic peers
easy guns do not protect us from those things. they just mean tens of thousands of extra body bags every year
if anything, owning a gun increases the chance of mortality for you and your loved ones, because you've raised the stakes in every little act of confusion/ misunderstanding/ anger/ accident/ etc. to death
like what? child porn? incitement to murder? sure. i live in the West and i support suppression of that
like political criticism? religious satire? no. i do not support that
the country that limits a few vicious topics is not at all like the country that locks down all political speech threatening the political status quo
the former is very much a free country, the latter very much not a free country, and the difference is substantive and real and very serious
if you think a country that censors child porn is exactly the same as one that censors political speech, you're only announcing yourself as a moron who doesn't understand the topic
no, ask most english speakers what 50 cents means and they think Curtis James Jackson III born July 6, 1975
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5...
you really do have to spread the word about astroturfers paid by the chinese government to vomit propaganda on social media, most english speakers really are not aware of them
you've listed a bunch of red herrings, tangential topics, and pointless observations to say nothing valid or interesting at all on the topic
it's as if you lack the capacity for critical thought... or you are demonstrating a weak timid mind taught that to approach certain taboo topics and verboten observations leads to punishment
hmmm...
so here we see the mediocre fruitless mental quality of someone raised in a walled garden of a "harmonious" society of cotton headed propaganda tools
so you're saying that criticism of the chinese government is ok, as long the chinese government approves the criticism
do you even listen to yourself? how propagandized and/ or braindead do you have to be to not see how stupid that sounds?
bragging is when you go "i did {x}"
he is saying "if you don't want to be caught, do {y}"
he's giving advice that doesn't implicate him in anything, in an on topic comment
he doesn't owe you anything, so say "thanks"
or say nothing
or reveal the only real character defect in this thread, which is not being a bragging dipshit, but yours: loudmouth asshole begging for a pointless fight
and that pointless fight will find you someday. you'll mouth off like you just did, because you wrongly think it makes you superior, to the wrong character, and depending on how badly you lose the resulting conflict, you'll probably be thinking:
"should have just kept my mouth shut rather than cast unnecessary hate and i could have avoided this"
good luck kid
it's duplication
which is great!
but why destroy the original? just to call it teleportation? seems ridiculous
only if no one hears him
taking heroin is merely the temporary relief form the typical pains of existence we all experience, to be replaced with a far far worse and much greater pain of addiction
whatever problems you had in life before heroin, are now 100x worse after
i'm an empty voice on the internet, i have no power
meanwhile, a drug that rewires your basic reward pathways dictates to you with a freedom destroying, happiness destroying power many times greater than the most fascist authoritarian government of hate you can imagine
wake up from your poorly rationalized denial, or grow some true wisdom about what something like heroin really means to freedom and happiness
http://www.reddit.com/r/Atlant...
drugs are the negative externality
an addict is not happy
in fact, their capacity for happiness has been permanently degraded, even after they kick the habit. whatever temporary pain they had has been replaced by a permanent reduction in range of choice. for now their very brain chemistry tells them to feed something that in no way contributes to their happiness or freedom. it is a monkey on their back
http://www.reddit.com/r/Atlant...
i stopped reading there. if you understood the chemistry of opiates, you would understand they hijack basic reward pathways in the brain stronger than any want, desire, or need we could ever have: social contact, sex, even food
how can you take a thinking human being, root all of their wants, needs, and desires to opium instead, and not call that the destruction of freedom? i'm just an empty voice on the internet, i have no power over you. you think that's in the same league as a chemical which interrupts every single motivation possible?
take someone whose thought is art, philosophy, science... and replace it with a zombie that thinks... fix, fix, i need my fix. if i give you a lobotomy... are you as free as before the lobotomy? addiction is nothing but a chemical lobotomy
there is no better way to crystallize and perfect the destruction of human freedom, than at the very chemical roots of our brain
yes, if we lived in a utopia where all our needs were taken care of, and we had the tiny minds of fucking *rodents*, opiates might be easy to get off and on
but being creatures with complex minds aware of existential stresses and the simple pain and drudgery of daily life that no rat can conceptualize, there is no rat park that ever could be constructed that would satisfy us more than something like heroin
we're not rats. there is no rat park for us
because we *think*. and for those of us suicidal to replace reality with heroin, reality, as *humans* see it, is never better
that some cotton candy heads might actually *choose* to destroy their freedom is only a testament to ignorance, stubborn deluded cluelessness, desperate pain without proper social help, and loopy rationalizations
there is no greater fight at preserving and extending freedom than the basic maintenance effort of civilization to minimize the drug trade
drugs destroy lives and freedom at a root far deeper than any social hierarchy or political ideology: chemistry over mind