Please, I did not "bite your head off". I was just saying that the answer is available on google (albeit not in the first link, you have to dig a bit) and also in the Debian faq as someone pointed out.
Is it really too much to ask that someone takes some time to think and find the answer for himself before asking others?
It's funny how I manage to avoid provoking snarky answers from people. I'm not the "old guard" trying to keep new users out. I'm a new user too, but somehow, I manage to not get myself flamed when asking questions on mailing lists. You might want to think about why you can't seem to avoid that.
I wonder how they're planning on securing this. Methinks it's just a matter of time before someone finds a way to use the network for free. I mean, we've heard that its not too hard to crack WEP, so how are they going to make sure people don't freeload on this service?
They may not be friendly because "Why is x.org NOT in debian-unstable?" is a stupid question and they've probably been asked that a million times. Try google instead of expecting other people to answer your trivial questions for you.
Indeed it now seems to be fixed. I tried all of these searches again, and now they all work. I am however, 100% sure that they did not work when I posted the parent comment.
Oh course, outside of April 1, they are moving their entire source tree to subversion.
This will soon prove (or disprove) the viability of subversion for very large projects. Linux kernel development model is significantly different though, so what works for KDE might not work for the kernel.
Oh I completely agree. If you are experienced with photoshop, and don't mind paying for it, great. Use whatever you feel comfortable with, it will save you a lot of time.
I was thinking more about the people that pirated photoshop, used it for some stuff, and then dump all over the Gimp saying it's unusable.
It's really quite amazing how negative many people are.
User: "Wah! Gimp doesn't look like photoshop!"
Dev: "Here, we recreated the photoshop interface for Gimp. You may be more comfortable with it now"
User: "Wah! Gimp doesn't act like photoshop!"
Holy shit people. The Gimp rocks, be thankful for that. Yes it doesn't have some of photoshop's features, but most people don't need those features anyway. You can't tell me most people are professional graphic artists or work in a print shop. For those people, get Photoshop, for everyone else, get the Gimp. Would you rather spend 700 bucks, or an extra 5 minutes figuring soemthing out?
Unless of course, you have no ethical problem with illegaly copying software, in which case you might as well get Photoshop for your l33t h4x0r graphics.
Great post. I don't agree with your conclusion though. First of all, the lack of voter turnout says nothing about the vitality of Debian, and secondly, I think Debian is more relevant today than ever before. All the new, popular distributions are based on Debian. (Ku/U)buntu, Knoppix, Mepis, Linspire, Xandros, Progeny, etc. A few years ago, all of them were Red Hat derivatives, now the standard platform is Debian.
I'd like to see Debian release a bit more often for those using the stable branch for servers, but if it doesn't happen, I don't think it is that critical. Debian unstable is fine for me, and everyone else seems to love the distributions that take Debian and add some of their own fluff.
Didn't actually post that. My blog consists of about 10 lines of php. It takes all the files in a dir and throws them together on a page.. So when I disabled indexing, it also grabbed the htaccess file.
Anyway, disabling indexing has nothing to do with the file dissapearing.
By default, yes. But Linux can be tweaked to run on much less RAM. Even with modern software on it.
Running just straight Debian (testing/unstable mix) with KDE 3.4, nothing fancy, I'm using 61MB after booting into KDE. That is substantially less than the same machine under Windows XP.
What the hell? Where did that pic go? It worked when I posted it. And apparently it worked for a bit judging by the first response. Now it seems to have dissapeared from my server entirely.
Sorry. The issue is mentioned in a different comment earlier anyway.
Haha yeah. Funny story about that actually. I told my friend that KDE 3.4 was out and he looked at some screenshots, then said that it looked "ok" but nothing to get horny about.
So I made that screenshot to show him that he was dead wrong.
Whoa. You got that entirely, completely backwards.
Non-geek users don't give a damn about rebooting. Unix has had ridiculous uptimes and a philosophy of not having to reboot for decades, and yet what did the average joe use? Windows. Where for the longest time you had to reboot after even the most trivial change.
Most people turn on their computer to do some work, then turn it off when they're done. Why? because leaving your computer on is wasteful unless it is doing something. Just like most people don't leave their cars running when they get out to go shopping.
They spent THREE HOURS trying to figure out how to do a useradd
Are you kidding? Your Linux/Windows gurus must be dumb as bricks. I don't use OS X much (basically just as a jukebox at work) and have never added a user before, but just did it now in about 15 seconds.
System Preferences (its in the dock by default) - Accounts - Hit the + icon. DONE.
OO.org is great.. I just wish it would start a bit faster. I thought this was one of the goals for 2.0.
Anyway, congrats to the OO.org team! It's not easy diving in on that much code and making sense of the everything.
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They create inconsistancy across systems
Ok, but if you want to prevent this, you use Kiosk to lock everything down, no problem.
a high overhead of setting up a new box
No, defaults are defaults. Install a KDE box and it's set up.
and lots of support trouble
Perhaps, but not if you use Kiosk.
That's why Apple's GUI often feels so constrained
Bingo. This may be good for a lot of people, but it is NOT good for me. The OS X GUI drives me nuts (yes I use it quite a bit), it doesn't work the way I want it to work, the animations slow me down, there are not enough options for keyboard navigation, and I can't get things like focus follows mouse (I'd trade this for menu on top any day). Oh yeah, and I can't move or resize windows by holding down a button, clicking anywhere in the window, and dragging.
Not only do they choose a poor, inconsistant model for their GUI
Your opinion. Actually I find KDE apps quite consistant wrt keyboard shortcuts and style.
they also let you change it in a bunch of different ways that increase inconsistancy
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Please, I did not "bite your head off". I was just saying that the answer is available on google (albeit not in the first link, you have to dig a bit) and also in the Debian faq as someone pointed out.
Is it really too much to ask that someone takes some time to think and find the answer for himself before asking others?
It's funny how I manage to avoid provoking snarky answers from people. I'm not the "old guard" trying to keep new users out. I'm a new user too, but somehow, I manage to not get myself flamed when asking questions on mailing lists. You might want to think about why you can't seem to avoid that.
I wonder how they're planning on securing this. Methinks it's just a matter of time before someone finds a way to use the network for free. I mean, we've heard that its not too hard to crack WEP, so how are they going to make sure people don't freeload on this service?
They may not be friendly because "Why is x.org NOT in debian-unstable?" is a stupid question and they've probably been asked that a million times. Try google instead of expecting other people to answer your trivial questions for you.
Indeed it now seems to be fixed. I tried all of these searches again, and now they all work. I am however, 100% sure that they did not work when I posted the parent comment.
"Portugal population" works, but "portugal population" does not, neither does "population of Portugal"
So it's not very robust yet.. But it looks promising.
Where'd you get the braindamaged idea that slashdot readers have the same opinion on everything?
Some commenters say one thing, some say the opposite. Holy bejesus what a crazy concept. Have you ever talked to more than person before?
Oh course, outside of April 1, they are moving their entire source tree to subversion.
This will soon prove (or disprove) the viability of subversion for very large projects. Linux kernel development model is significantly different though, so what works for KDE might not work for the kernel.
Oh I completely agree. If you are experienced with photoshop, and don't mind paying for it, great. Use whatever you feel comfortable with, it will save you a lot of time.
I was thinking more about the people that pirated photoshop, used it for some stuff, and then dump all over the Gimp saying it's unusable.
It's really quite amazing how negative many people are.
User: "Wah! Gimp doesn't look like photoshop!"
Dev: "Here, we recreated the photoshop interface for Gimp. You may be more comfortable with it now"
User: "Wah! Gimp doesn't act like photoshop!"
Holy shit people. The Gimp rocks, be thankful for that. Yes it doesn't have some of photoshop's features, but most people don't need those features anyway. You can't tell me most people are professional graphic artists or work in a print shop. For those people, get Photoshop, for everyone else, get the Gimp. Would you rather spend 700 bucks, or an extra 5 minutes figuring soemthing out?
Unless of course, you have no ethical problem with illegaly copying software, in which case you might as well get Photoshop for your l33t h4x0r graphics.
Great post. I don't agree with your conclusion though. First of all, the lack of voter turnout says nothing about the vitality of Debian, and secondly, I think Debian is more relevant today than ever before.
All the new, popular distributions are based on Debian. (Ku/U)buntu, Knoppix, Mepis, Linspire, Xandros, Progeny, etc.
A few years ago, all of them were Red Hat derivatives, now the standard platform is Debian.
I'd like to see Debian release a bit more often for those using the stable branch for servers, but if it doesn't happen, I don't think it is that critical. Debian unstable is fine for me, and everyone else seems to love the distributions that take Debian and add some of their own fluff.
Didn't actually post that. My blog consists of about 10 lines of php. It takes all the files in a dir and throws them together on a page.. So when I disabled indexing, it also grabbed the htaccess file.
Anyway, disabling indexing has nothing to do with the file dissapearing.
By default, yes. But Linux can be tweaked to run on much less RAM. Even with modern software on it.
Running just straight Debian (testing/unstable mix) with KDE 3.4, nothing fancy, I'm using 61MB after booting into KDE. That is substantially less than the same machine under Windows XP.
What the hell? Where did that pic go? It worked when I posted it. And apparently it worked for a bit judging by the first response. Now it seems to have dissapeared from my server entirely.
Sorry. The issue is mentioned in a different comment earlier anyway.
Haha yeah.
Funny story about that actually. I told my friend that KDE 3.4 was out and he looked at some screenshots, then said that it looked "ok" but nothing to get horny about.
So I made that screenshot to show him that he was dead wrong.
Ever going fix this?
Its not so bad on my work comp, but downright embarrasing on my girlfriend's laptop when there's 5 Firefox entries in the Add/Remove Programs dialog.
I wonder if some company may eventually say:
"We won't sue you for infringing on our patents if you don't sue us for infringing on the GPL"
Also, would that even be legal to accept an agreement like that? Nevermind that it would probably be a bad thing for OSS.
You click on the little update icon for you distribution of choice, and it downloads and installs updates automatically.
I'm pretty sure a normal user can handle that.
A normal user would never even see the source level patches that you're talking about
Whoa. You got that entirely, completely backwards.
Non-geek users don't give a damn about rebooting. Unix has had ridiculous uptimes and a philosophy of not having to reboot for decades, and yet what did the average joe use? Windows. Where for the longest time you had to reboot after even the most trivial change.
Most people turn on their computer to do some work, then turn it off when they're done. Why? because leaving your computer on is wasteful unless it is doing something. Just like most people don't leave their cars running when they get out to go shopping.
The user comments are also a must read, with luminaries ... chiming in with their insights.
;)
That's one sentence you will never hear used to describe slashdot.
The recommended solution to this problem is to bypass DNS and type in all IP addresses by hand.
I can sell you attractive hand made table of domain to IP mappings for the top 25 sites on the internet for just $5!
Except I am immediately suspicious of the exploit site because the scrollbar does not behave like a normal scrollbar.
The cursor turns to a hand (like over links) which immediately tells me something is wrong so I wouldn't even try to scroll using it.
They spent THREE HOURS trying to figure out how to do a useradd
Are you kidding? Your Linux/Windows gurus must be dumb as bricks. I don't use OS X much (basically just as a jukebox at work) and have never added a user before, but just did it now in about 15 seconds.
System Preferences (its in the dock by default) - Accounts - Hit the + icon. DONE.
I suggest you fire these "gurus" you speak of.
Hmm.. yes, I can't reproduce your issue. It inserts 1.2 just like one would expect. Perhaps this is something that was fixed in the beta.
OO.org is great.. I just wish it would start a bit faster. I thought this was one of the goals for 2.0.
Anyway, congrats to the OO.org team! It's not easy diving in on that much code and making sense of the everything.
They create inconsistancy across systems
Ok, but if you want to prevent this, you use Kiosk to lock everything down, no problem.
a high overhead of setting up a new box
No, defaults are defaults. Install a KDE box and it's set up.
and lots of support trouble
Perhaps, but not if you use Kiosk.
That's why Apple's GUI often feels so constrained
Bingo. This may be good for a lot of people, but it is NOT good for me. The OS X GUI drives me nuts (yes I use it quite a bit), it doesn't work the way I want it to work, the animations slow me down, there are not enough options for keyboard navigation, and I can't get things like focus follows mouse (I'd trade this for menu on top any day). Oh yeah, and I can't move or resize windows by holding down a button, clicking anywhere in the window, and dragging.
Not only do they choose a poor, inconsistant model for their GUI
Your opinion. Actually I find KDE apps quite consistant wrt keyboard shortcuts and style.
they also let you change it in a bunch of different ways that increase inconsistancy
Which makes me more productive, so I'm happy.