Then either you used it wrong [e.g. forced installation of things masked] or messed with the internals.
I'm sure if I delete commdlg32.dll windows won't work so hot too;-)
So far this is my 3rd or so Gentoo install on this box [switch from Athlon to P4, messed it up by myself and once had to go back to windows and I don't like dual booting].
For the most part though it's rather hard to mess up Gentoo if you use the tools correctly.
Though along with some of the other comments I too would love to see a GTK+ or even simply Motif wrapper around the portage tools. An X based installer would be keen and not insanely hard.
icewm would also fly on such a box [and take no time to install]. If all you need is a wm and not a desktop suite [which is what GNOME is btw] then you're good.
The difference is the technology. It was probably much cheaper to make 1 - 0.5 micron transistors than it is to make the 0.09 micron transistors used today [even if you ramp the value of the dollar back in time].
As for other commodities like printers and monitors they are made in the US as well but for the most part economics plays a part in that. It's cheaper to pay slave wages in another country, slap a picture of a happy [white] user on the front and sell it in the US.:-)
There are 13764 *.ebuild files in the current portage tree. But there is more than that. There are the make scripts, manifests and small gentoo-specific patches that make up the >80k files in the portage tree.
The big thing over other distros is as you alluded to, the USE flags.
For instance, I use tiff files. The stock build of GIMP-2.0 [if you build it manually] doesn't include tiff support. add that to my USE and boom gentoo configures it for tiff support.
Unlike say things like Knoppix or Debian where you're pretty much stuck with what the guy who built it wanted...
Yeah cuz it would be a shame if cpu's were designed in the states and Israel, fabed in the states, Ireland and elsewhere [intel], Germany [AMD], states, Canada and elsewhere [IBM] and later assembled in various plays [yes, including the asian countries...]...
Um LaTeX in WYSIWYG would be killer. LyX is somewhat there but really not 100%.
As for why support other formats? Duh, so they can migrate to your solution. This is why banks should interoperate better too [between same bank, diff branches and between diff banks alltogether]. like my CC is from one bank and my chequing from another. I use my chequing banks online services because they allow me to pay accross. But if I could walk into my CC bank and use my debit card from my other bank to pay my bill I would [cuz quite frankly banking scares me, online banking really scares me].
Yeah, I had more "excuse me" lines in mind but I decided to cut it short because I was getting a bit arrogant.
Point is, sure I whole heartedly believe in giving [or in my case paying for] a helping hand to the "down and out". Quite frankly if things don't pick up I'll probably be homeless myself.
However, just because you're shit out of luck for a job and can't pay rent doesn't mean you have to take to sticking needles in your arm. Specially in Canada. We have welfare, subsidized housing, food shelters, emergency shelters, etc...
There are tons of plans out there. Most just require you to be clean cut, sober and you have to ask for it. Sure isn't perfect [specially welfare] but there are answers.
While I consider myself left-wing liberal I have a hard time siding with the "oh, arresting criminals is bad because they're already poor"...
Where did I say minorities? White homeless drug addicts piss me off just as much as the chicano, niggers, heebees and the waps.
Now that's some racism.
But seriously. I've seen all sorts of homeless types and it ain't just the "po' wittle black man" that you see.
I do agree that white-collar crime [like the ex-CEO of Nortel] seem to get off easy. That doesn't mean I'm gonna flip a coin at a waste on the street though.
The "war on drugs" [or Canadian Criminal Code as we call it here...] is important because for every 10 drug addict skulls they bash in maybe 1 kid thinks twice about hitting up. To me that's a victory.
And let's not get all wishy-washy. Drugs are illegal for a reason. Drug users *are* criminals. Just because they're "poor" doesn't mean we should cut them slack and let them off. By the same token I agree, just because you're rich doesn't mean scamming 401k's out of people shouldn't be a criminal offence.
Well making money goodism aside they amalgamate crap together until the user is so inundated with "features" they just assume it's great. Then when they learn that the auto-toc isn't standard and easy to trip up [as I found out last semester when I was forced to use it] or that you have to manually layout figures, tables, etc.... it looks less like "neat" and more like "life sucks".
Sure a WYSIWYG is good for short memos and shit. That's why "write" exists. But for manuals, books, papers and reports LaTeX is always the best choice.
Sadly only 10 people in the world seem to know this;-)
Of course MS could just make their own port of TeX and call it MSReX or something... claim they invented it. At least then it would be something I'd use.
The rest of the world is ready to contend with bloaty 2GB "text editors" that will easily put things in the wrong spot and not be compatible between versions and not have professional macros for document logistics and preamble.
This sounds like more fun. Specially since CC companies have a vest interest in not filing more insurance covers for lost/stolen/abused CC accounts.
"Yes, sir, seems you tried to buy something from bigusdickus.com. Well sir, that company was a scam setup to trap morons like you. Oh sorry, I mean 'valued' customers like you. Sure, we'll turn on your credit card again. Oh, seems your interest rate went up 10% now to 28.5%. Bad luck!"
Then I disagree. The roads are for everyone. Not just people with a license.
You can ruin peoples livelyhood via spam/p2p/etc. I, for example, work remotely via the net with a company 3000 miles away. If I can't talk with them on a daily basis it messes up my ability to work and thereby earn a living.
So how about instead of trying to ruin spammers by all means, you give me 10% of your salary.
As to the van, "to sell" is to promote for sale. The correct analogy would be if they left the goods there but didn't further solicit. E.g. so they arrest people who they themselves solicit the goods [e.g. "got any watches I can buy?"].
The point is they need to educate themselves. The computer is not something you can just half-hazardly point and click then whine when things go sour.
It's like driving. You gotta take tests before you get on the road.
By your logic people shouldn't take driving classes and when they smash into things they are "victims" for not knowing better.
I mean it's generally safe to assume 100% of all solicitations from companies you don't recognize are spams. I don't get any email from Intel or Walmart asking me to check out their new specials...
So why pretend as if people are legitimately duped by this?
I mean there is a difference between exploiting a bug in IE/Mozilla/whatever so that https://localcomputerstorename.com directs to a phisher site without anyone noticing [by checking cert, location bar, details] and someone just randomly clicking on a link in an email sent from a gibberish email address.
It's like complaining about low quality crack from the guy off the corner. Well maybe you shouldn't buy crack [at all but in this case] from the guy off the corner!
Overall these spams are preying on peoples stupidity and fear. They fear if they don't take HGH, Vicodin, Xanax and Gingo all at the same time their Karma life force will dimminsh their Chi and give them indigestion or something...
Buying stuff from spammers is supporting spammers.
I never bought that fact. They're poor because they buy 100s of dollars of drugs.
I mean I'm "poor" but I also own a fast PC, lots of textbooks, a gameboy, two flashcarts, etc, etc, etc..
Excuse me while I shed a tear for the poor and impoverished that spend every time they get on booze so they can sleep in parking lots while I walk to/from school.
Excuse me while I shed a tear for the school dropouts who mocked me in earlier grades and now beg me for money so they can keep up their habits.
Excuse me while I shed a tear for the hungry, refused food from shelters who's sole requirement is that you are sober.
Excuse me while I shed a tear for the tired, refused beds for not being sober.
I don't see the people buying from spammers as victims though. They're stupid, perhaps perverted peeps that should be stopped. Your analogies don't quite work for that reason.
A closer analogy would be going on a blind date then driving 90MPH to a store to pick up cheap asprin.
The bandwidth you use is shared between the rest of the folk on your ISP, on the ISPs backbone and the target backdone [and carriers] and their users.
You using 300KB/sec to P2P warez or spread spam effects literally millions of people. Albeit in a small fashion but if you take many people doing the same thing, well... that's where problems happen.
I seriously think this would be different if you got caught behind 3 cars driving side-by-side 10MPH on the interstate....You'd be screaming "off the road!!!" calling the police, etc...... stupid hypocrites...
Too f'ing bad. If you can discern a fake spam email from grandma writing to say hello you don't deserve to use the internet.
Let's not forget that the internet *requires* people to co-operate in order to function successfully. Just like public transportation infrastructure. Last I checked you can't just drive like a maniac because "you didn't know better".
So yeah, fuck it. If people want to play crying heart liberal then make an "internet license" mandatory.
As for entrapment let's look at the definition:
"To lure into performing a previously or otherwise uncontemplated illegal act."
I didn't say keep sending the spam. I said keep the server running to get replies. So at that point before the law got involved you already thought of commiting the act and therefore it is not entrapment.
I mean we arrest people for soliciting sex right? [Despite the fact that both sex and commerce are legal...:-)].
So why not make it illegal to buy wares from spammers who don't identify themselves [which keeps the door open for free speech by allowing people who do identify themselves a way out]?
E.g. buy V1c0din from "HornyToad@hotmail.com" and get a 2000$ fine. Sadly the only way to really enforce this would be to send out spam themselves....
Or what they could do is when they catch a spam operation keep the website/email live and catch the people trying to buy the stuff.
Anyways, if you make people who are already leary about buying X.@.n.4.x from people off the net even more leary it hurt their business that much more.
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Don't forget the part about being in another castle!!! That's the best part!
Tom
Then either you used it wrong [e.g. forced installation of things masked] or messed with the internals.
;-)
I'm sure if I delete commdlg32.dll windows won't work so hot too
So far this is my 3rd or so Gentoo install on this box [switch from Athlon to P4, messed it up by myself and once had to go back to windows and I don't like dual booting].
For the most part though it's rather hard to mess up Gentoo if you use the tools correctly.
Though along with some of the other comments I too would love to see a GTK+ or even simply Motif wrapper around the portage tools. An X based installer would be keen and not insanely hard.
Tom
icewm would also fly on such a box [and take no time to install]. If all you need is a wm and not a desktop suite [which is what GNOME is btw] then you're good.
Tom
It's a TV show...
I would. The current lilo won't build cuz I'm too lazy to mod my kernel [device mapper crap]. They still have/support the previous lilo.
Tom
The difference is the technology. It was probably much cheaper to make 1 - 0.5 micron transistors than it is to make the 0.09 micron transistors used today [even if you ramp the value of the dollar back in time].
:-)
As for other commodities like printers and monitors they are made in the US as well but for the most part economics plays a part in that. It's cheaper to pay slave wages in another country, slap a picture of a happy [white] user on the front and sell it in the US.
There are 13764 *.ebuild files in the current portage tree. But there is more than that. There are the make scripts, manifests and small gentoo-specific patches that make up the >80k files in the portage tree.
The big thing over other distros is as you alluded to, the USE flags.
For instance, I use tiff files. The stock build of GIMP-2.0 [if you build it manually] doesn't include tiff support. add that to my USE and boom gentoo configures it for tiff support.
Unlike say things like Knoppix or Debian where you're pretty much stuck with what the guy who built it wanted...
Tom
Yeah cuz it would be a shame if cpu's were designed in the states and Israel, fabed in the states, Ireland and elsewhere [intel], Germany [AMD], states, Canada and elsewhere [IBM] and later assembled in various plays [yes, including the asian countries...] ...
Such a shame...
Tom
Um LaTeX in WYSIWYG would be killer. LyX is somewhat there but really not 100%.
As for why support other formats? Duh, so they can migrate to your solution. This is why banks should interoperate better too [between same bank, diff branches and between diff banks alltogether]. like my CC is from one bank and my chequing from another. I use my chequing banks online services because they allow me to pay accross. But if I could walk into my CC bank and use my debit card from my other bank to pay my bill I would [cuz quite frankly banking scares me, online banking really scares me].
Tom
You obviously carry a bigger stick and talk just a bit louder than I do ;-)
My point about free speech though is that in the case that it's truly opt-in, auto-matic solicitations [e.g. like an auto-dialer] aren't made illegal.
Tom
Yeah, I had more "excuse me" lines in mind but I decided to cut it short because I was getting a bit arrogant.
Point is, sure I whole heartedly believe in giving [or in my case paying for] a helping hand to the "down and out". Quite frankly if things don't pick up I'll probably be homeless myself.
However, just because you're shit out of luck for a job and can't pay rent doesn't mean you have to take to sticking needles in your arm. Specially in Canada. We have welfare, subsidized housing, food shelters, emergency shelters, etc...
There are tons of plans out there. Most just require you to be clean cut, sober and you have to ask for it. Sure isn't perfect [specially welfare] but there are answers.
While I consider myself left-wing liberal I have a hard time siding with the "oh, arresting criminals is bad because they're already poor"...
Tom
Where did I say minorities? White homeless drug addicts piss me off just as much as the chicano, niggers, heebees and the waps.
Now that's some racism.
But seriously. I've seen all sorts of homeless types and it ain't just the "po' wittle black man" that you see.
I do agree that white-collar crime [like the ex-CEO of Nortel] seem to get off easy. That doesn't mean I'm gonna flip a coin at a waste on the street though.
The "war on drugs" [or Canadian Criminal Code as we call it here...] is important because for every 10 drug addict skulls they bash in maybe 1 kid thinks twice about hitting up. To me that's a victory.
And let's not get all wishy-washy. Drugs are illegal for a reason. Drug users *are* criminals. Just because they're "poor" doesn't mean we should cut them slack and let them off. By the same token I agree, just because you're rich doesn't mean scamming 401k's out of people shouldn't be a criminal offence.
Tom
Hehehe true dat.
;-)
Well making money goodism aside they amalgamate crap together until the user is so inundated with "features" they just assume it's great. Then when they learn that the auto-toc isn't standard and easy to trip up [as I found out last semester when I was forced to use it] or that you have to manually layout figures, tables, etc.... it looks less like "neat" and more like "life sucks".
Sure a WYSIWYG is good for short memos and shit. That's why "write" exists. But for manuals, books, papers and reports LaTeX is always the best choice.
Sadly only 10 people in the world seem to know this
Of course MS could just make their own port of TeX and call it MSReX or something... claim they invented it. At least then it would be something I'd use.
Tom
Sorry. My bad. Send me the bill, I'll cover it this time.
In my defense I did say LaTeX not latex.
Tom
Yeah, innovate by adding another 200MB to their "office suite in a box...full of CDs".
How to make MS Office better.
1. Smaller
2. Better support for OTHER FILE FORMATS
3. Stop being the ass of the world.
4. Add some real typesetting standards.
Tom
LaTeX is for hippies who like proper typesetting.
The rest of the world is ready to contend with bloaty 2GB "text editors" that will easily put things in the wrong spot and not be compatible between versions and not have professional macros for document logistics and preamble.
Ha!
This sounds like more fun. Specially since CC companies have a vest interest in not filing more insurance covers for lost/stolen/abused CC accounts.
"Yes, sir, seems you tried to buy something from bigusdickus.com. Well sir, that company was a scam setup to trap morons like you. Oh sorry, I mean 'valued' customers like you. Sure, we'll turn on your credit card again. Oh, seems your interest rate went up 10% now to 28.5%. Bad luck!"
Tom
Then I disagree. The roads are for everyone. Not just people with a license.
/.'ers have to learn to analogize...
You can ruin peoples livelyhood via spam/p2p/etc. I, for example, work remotely via the net with a company 3000 miles away. If I can't talk with them on a daily basis it messes up my ability to work and thereby earn a living.
So how about instead of trying to ruin spammers by all means, you give me 10% of your salary.
As to the van, "to sell" is to promote for sale. The correct analogy would be if they left the goods there but didn't further solicit. E.g. so they arrest people who they themselves solicit the goods [e.g. "got any watches I can buy?"].
Honestly.
The point is they need to educate themselves. The computer is not something you can just half-hazardly point and click then whine when things go sour.
It's like driving. You gotta take tests before you get on the road.
By your logic people shouldn't take driving classes and when they smash into things they are "victims" for not knowing better.
I mean it's generally safe to assume 100% of all solicitations from companies you don't recognize are spams. I don't get any email from Intel or Walmart asking me to check out their new specials...
So why pretend as if people are legitimately duped by this?
I mean there is a difference between exploiting a bug in IE/Mozilla/whatever so that https://localcomputerstorename.com directs to a phisher site without anyone noticing [by checking cert, location bar, details] and someone just randomly clicking on a link in an email sent from a gibberish email address.
It's like complaining about low quality crack from the guy off the corner. Well maybe you shouldn't buy crack [at all but in this case] from the guy off the corner!
Overall these spams are preying on peoples stupidity and fear. They fear if they don't take HGH, Vicodin, Xanax and Gingo all at the same time their Karma life force will dimminsh their Chi and give them indigestion or something...
Buying stuff from spammers is supporting spammers.
You don't support spammers do you?
"and the poor in jail..."
I never bought that fact. They're poor because they buy 100s of dollars of drugs.
I mean I'm "poor" but I also own a fast PC, lots of textbooks, a gameboy, two flashcarts, etc, etc, etc..
Excuse me while I shed a tear for the poor and impoverished that spend every time they get on booze so they can sleep in parking lots while I walk to/from school.
Excuse me while I shed a tear for the school dropouts who mocked me in earlier grades and now beg me for money so they can keep up their habits.
Excuse me while I shed a tear for the hungry, refused food from shelters who's sole requirement is that you are sober.
Excuse me while I shed a tear for the tired, refused beds for not being sober.
Excuse me.
Tom
I don't see the people buying from spammers as victims though. They're stupid, perhaps perverted peeps that should be stopped. Your analogies don't quite work for that reason.
A closer analogy would be going on a blind date then driving 90MPH to a store to pick up cheap asprin.
Tom
Honestly why is this a radical concept?
... stupid hypocrites...
The bandwidth you use is shared between the rest of the folk on your ISP, on the ISPs backbone and the target backdone [and carriers] and their users.
You using 300KB/sec to P2P warez or spread spam effects literally millions of people. Albeit in a small fashion but if you take many people doing the same thing, well... that's where problems happen.
I seriously think this would be different if you got caught behind 3 cars driving side-by-side 10MPH on the interstate....You'd be screaming "off the road!!!" calling the police, etc...
Tom
Too f'ing bad. If you can discern a fake spam email from grandma writing to say hello you don't deserve to use the internet.
Let's not forget that the internet *requires* people to co-operate in order to function successfully. Just like public transportation infrastructure. Last I checked you can't just drive like a maniac because "you didn't know better".
So yeah, fuck it. If people want to play crying heart liberal then make an "internet license" mandatory.
As for entrapment let's look at the definition:
"To lure into performing a previously or otherwise uncontemplated illegal act."
I didn't say keep sending the spam. I said keep the server running to get replies. So at that point before the law got involved you already thought of commiting the act and therefore it is not entrapment.
I rest my case y'honour.
Tom
yeah just click on this link
o de dinfo=youremailidentifierasahugenumber ;-)
http://opt-out-lists.com@oem.com:24.112.8.23/?c
I mean we arrest people for soliciting sex right? [Despite the fact that both sex and commerce are legal... :-)].
So why not make it illegal to buy wares from spammers who don't identify themselves [which keeps the door open for free speech by allowing people who do identify themselves a way out]?
E.g. buy V1c0din from "HornyToad@hotmail.com" and get a 2000$ fine. Sadly the only way to really enforce this would be to send out spam themselves....
Or what they could do is when they catch a spam operation keep the website/email live and catch the people trying to buy the stuff.
Anyways, if you make people who are already leary about buying X.@.n.4.x from people off the net even more leary it hurt their business that much more.
Tom