I never said Gentoo was better than Fedora. I just said that Fedora helps you dual boot. And for the typical windows user Fedora is a bit more useful.
Gentoo is not something the average hardcore Windows users will understand.
And seriously, if you go through the pain of building the 400 packages required to make a decent gentoo workstation, do you want to then throw that away and boot windows at the slightest change of mind?
Gentoo and Windows hit two totally different groups of people and respective tasks.
Gentoo is totally not a commodity desktop. You don't install it just because it looks nice with Windows on a boot screen. And if you do, man you need help, or an xbox or something...
Dual booting is for people who can't really decide why they bought a PC in the first place.
I don't see the value in dual booting. My personal laptop does have both but I mostly boot windows to work on my book. My workstation [which doubles as a file store and server] runs gentoo only. I get most of my development work done there as the shell+tools+OS is better suited for the task.
Presumably if you're using Gentoo you're running a server or development team. Gentoo really isn't an OS you hand your grandmother to install.
Internally the RISC ops have a "size" modifier that has been updated to have a 64-bit type. The actual organization of the ALU and other components is very similar between K7 and K8.
To say K8 is a totally new processor, as you alluded to, is inaccurate.
To say Core Duo 2 Two Deux is totally new is wrong too. It's similar to a wider PM with a huger cache [yes huger is a word!].
I personally think this is a stupid idea. Part of the appeal of AMD was that you didn't have just one source for your parts. I'm sure merging with ATI will piss of Nvidia [and possibly even VIA], maybe even to the point that they stop making AMD required parts. They better work hard to ensure that the customers are the ones who get to decide. Otherwise they're fundamentally no better than Intel.:-(
Agreed with all that except the Linux bit. UNIX ca. 1970 never had a O(1) scheduler if I recall correctly. Or the other dozen improvements to the OS as a whole.
If you think Windows is leading the way in OS Kernel technology... you're sadly mistaken. There are newer kernels out there that newer ideas then either of Linux or WinNT
And we'll have flying cars, take food pills and learn through thinking!...
Besides, the republicans will fear us into uninventing stuff on the grounds that it is religiously taboo'ed.
Zing!
And besides there already is a larger body at work controlling humans. It's called society as a whole. You think even the richest person on earth gets to really decide on a daily basis what they do? Most super rich CEOs fortune is tied to the well being of their company [this is called stock]. You think you'll see Gates on CNN touting the virtues of Linux any time soon? No. Why not? I doubt it's because he's really into technology [if he was he wouldn't have held back competitors for so long]. It's because he thinks he needs the fortune he amassed. Same applies to most other rich execs and others.
Everyone seems to do what society expects of them. Of course what society expects of people varies with the cultures but to think today we as individuals are in total control of our lives and we have complete independence is total bullshit.
If that were really the case I wouldn't be writing a book in MS Word [.... sob....] or taking a bus for 2 hours a day [each way] to work at a place where my co-workers telecommute...
A lot of homebrew sites are not tucows.com or whatever. Most are legit but occasionally someone gets their site linked to. The admin doesn't check the link and the webpage contains links to files with viruses.
I've found others though too. Looking for "decss" for windows I easily found a half dozen zip files with google that had viruses in them.
OTH won't be on today. [it's 99.5FM if you want to listen].
If you want to listen to the show it's on Wednesdays at 7pm. Off The Hook (site appears down right now). You can download all of their previous episodes (going back to 1988) from the site.
It's the pseudonym of Eric S. Corley [iirc] the editor of 2600 magazine and host of Off The Hook [a radio show on WBAI in New York, Wednesdays at 7PM].
And yes, he picked the name for the 1984 allusion.
I routinely get files [or browse for files] on random homebrew sites where "smart" people try and sneak a virus in there.
AV isn't supposed to make your computer stupid-proof. If you download and run every single application you can find no AV in the world will help.
If you happen to stumble on a 4 week old virus that either got bot-mailed to you or stored in a public archive they're a godsend. Specially since most AVs scan archives so before you even open it you're good.
1. Stop allowing "anonymous" people to post to ad ridden review sites
2. Stop posting stories about ad ridden review sites that split the story to 30 pages
3. Stop even thinking about talking about ad ridden review sites
4. Mirror the occasional real story so we can actually read it the same day the story is posted.
It's called "not selling out". If I give you money I want something of value in return. If I wanted a barrage of retarded stories I'd head to Fark. At least they don't pretend to be a "news" website.
Apparently his conclusion is he can't run a benchmark.
I didn't read the setup slide [honestly because I skipped to the conclusion] but he probably was testing in windows, with a stop watch and without a ram drive [on a USB 1.0 port...]
Conclusion, don't expect mad speed from SD or CF specially on cards which are max size [where RAID'ing isn't possible].
Of course you fail to mention that your country is also
a) lot smaller
b) Not trading in USD:-)
c) Full of weird as small cars [not a bad thing though].
I mean for me to drive home to my folks place is equivalent to [roughly] driving entirely from one end of England to the other. And I don't even leave the province I'm in to do my trip!!! Talk to me when you live in a country that is 3000Km wide about the price of gas.
That and yeah, if oil wasn't traded in USD you'd probably have an easier time buying gas. Of course the next logical choice is the euro, not the pound. So you're still fucked.
Why is there always someone who posts this comment. No shit, OMG PONIES firefox has ad blockers.
That doesn't mean putting a single page story on 20 pages is any more enjoyable to read.
You fucking karmatrolls are fucking annoying. You're like the little 6 yr old trying to get the attention of his parents or something. Shut the fuck up already until you have something insightful to say.
Not a lot has changed since the 90s as far as I can tell from your post. Though you would kinda assume that any company would be big on their own tech. Don't see many Linux boxes at Microsoft, or AMD boxes at Intel,...:-) All the desktops and laptops are IBM [or lenovo]. Though the newish Thinkpads do look kinda spiffy.
Just wish they [being pretty much the entire industry] didn't all use Windows. It's nice for IBM to be this "Linux advocate", but everyday I go to work I sit at a Windows machine, use Outlook [or notes]. My other companies gear... all Windows too...It seems [from my personal experience] that "Linux" extends only to the servers in the minds of the average person there. The thought of using it on a workstation is just mind boggling.
The official line usually is "You can use whatever you want provided it can work with MS Exchange, read and write MS Word and Powerpoint files". Which basically locks you into Windows. But alas, it is "their" computer. If they want me running Windows then so be it.
For me working in Window is painful, and only have useful with a dozen tools like cygwin, adobe, etc...
In Linux I can "just work". Booting windows to play games isn't an option as multiple people use this box. Where in Linux I can totally dominate one of my four cores with a video game, if I boot windows they get 0 of the 4 cores to use.
Um, you realize that in a 2P config the extra socket would not be "sharing" system memory. Though you're right they tend to use already use GDDR2/GDDR3 [iirc similar to DDR2].
Though yeah I guess the memory would still be slower.
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I never said Gentoo was better than Fedora. I just said that Fedora helps you dual boot. And for the typical windows user Fedora is a bit more useful.
Gentoo is not something the average hardcore Windows users will understand.
And seriously, if you go through the pain of building the 400 packages required to make a decent gentoo workstation, do you want to then throw that away and boot windows at the slightest change of mind?
Tom
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Gentoo and Windows hit two totally different groups of people and respective tasks.
Gentoo is totally not a commodity desktop. You don't install it just because it looks nice with Windows on a boot screen. And if you do, man you need help, or an xbox or something...
Dual booting is for people who can't really decide why they bought a PC in the first place.
Tom
I don't see the value in dual booting. My personal laptop does have both but I mostly boot windows to work on my book. My workstation [which doubles as a file store and server] runs gentoo only. I get most of my development work done there as the shell+tools+OS is better suited for the task.
Presumably if you're using Gentoo you're running a server or development team. Gentoo really isn't an OS you hand your grandmother to install.
Tom
Fedora will help you setup dualboot.
Gentoo users [like me] just don't run Windows, e.g. not an issue.
tom
What if the wording of the deal prevents AMD from licensing to nvidia for HT 3.0 or whatever in the future?
Tom
[Disclaimer: They don't tell me shit. So don't take this as company endorsed slashdotting...]
Internally the RISC ops have a "size" modifier that has been updated to have a 64-bit type. The actual organization of the ALU and other components is very similar between K7 and K8.
To say K8 is a totally new processor, as you alluded to, is inaccurate.
To say Core Duo 2 Two Deux is totally new is wrong too. It's similar to a wider PM with a huger cache [yes huger is a word!].
Tom
I personally think this is a stupid idea. Part of the appeal of AMD was that you didn't have just one source for your parts. I'm sure merging with ATI will piss of Nvidia [and possibly even VIA], maybe even to the point that they stop making AMD required parts. They better work hard to ensure that the customers are the ones who get to decide. Otherwise they're fundamentally no better than Intel. :-(
Tom
Agreed with all that except the Linux bit. UNIX ca. 1970 never had a O(1) scheduler if I recall correctly. Or the other dozen improvements to the OS as a whole.
... you're sadly mistaken. There are newer kernels out there that newer ideas then either of Linux or WinNT
If you think Windows is leading the way in OS Kernel technology
Tom
And we'll have flying cars, take food pills and learn through thinking! ...
....] or taking a bus for 2 hours a day [each way] to work at a place where my co-workers telecommute...
Besides, the republicans will fear us into uninventing stuff on the grounds that it is religiously taboo'ed.
Zing!
And besides there already is a larger body at work controlling humans. It's called society as a whole. You think even the richest person on earth gets to really decide on a daily basis what they do? Most super rich CEOs fortune is tied to the well being of their company [this is called stock]. You think you'll see Gates on CNN touting the virtues of Linux any time soon? No. Why not? I doubt it's because he's really into technology [if he was he wouldn't have held back competitors for so long]. It's because he thinks he needs the fortune he amassed. Same applies to most other rich execs and others.
Everyone seems to do what society expects of them. Of course what society expects of people varies with the cultures but to think today we as individuals are in total control of our lives and we have complete independence is total bullshit.
If that were really the case I wouldn't be writing a book in MS Word [.... sob
Tom
"Windows Acessible Search Live.Net Beta XP Pro Edition"
[The spelling was intentional, MSFT can invent their own spellings, they're MSFT afterall].
Tom
A lot of homebrew sites are not tucows.com or whatever. Most are legit but occasionally someone gets their site linked to. The admin doesn't check the link and the webpage contains links to files with viruses.
I've found others though too. Looking for "decss" for windows I easily found a half dozen zip files with google that had viruses in them.
Tom
OTH won't be on today. [it's 99.5FM if you want to listen].
If you want to listen to the show it's on Wednesdays at 7pm. Off The Hook (site appears down right now). You can download all of their previous episodes (going back to 1988) from the site.
Tom
It's the pseudonym of Eric S. Corley [iirc] the editor of 2600 magazine and host of Off The Hook [a radio show on WBAI in New York, Wednesdays at 7PM].
And yes, he picked the name for the 1984 allusion.
Tom
It depends on the box, how you plan to use it.
... contact MSFT for support. I mean you did pay for your copy right?
If you don't think you can handle WinXP
Tom
I take the bus. :-)
Tom
I routinely get files [or browse for files] on random homebrew sites where "smart" people try and sneak a virus in there.
AV isn't supposed to make your computer stupid-proof. If you download and run every single application you can find no AV in the world will help.
If you happen to stumble on a 4 week old virus that either got bot-mailed to you or stored in a public archive they're a godsend. Specially since most AVs scan archives so before you even open it you're good.
Tom
Toronto to Winnipeg which oddly enough goes through the states [stupid lakes].
According to google that is 2,200Km (1367 miles). That's just the next province. Try this out
Toronto to Vancouver. A mere 4,379km (2720 miles).
Tom
Hey, how about this editors...
I'll pay for a slashdot account once you
1. Stop allowing "anonymous" people to post to ad ridden review sites
2. Stop posting stories about ad ridden review sites that split the story to 30 pages
3. Stop even thinking about talking about ad ridden review sites
4. Mirror the occasional real story so we can actually read it the same day the story is posted.
It's called "not selling out". If I give you money I want something of value in return. If I wanted a barrage of retarded stories I'd head to Fark. At least they don't pretend to be a "news" website.
Tom
Apparently his conclusion is he can't run a benchmark.
I didn't read the setup slide [honestly because I skipped to the conclusion] but he probably was testing in windows, with a stop watch and without a ram drive [on a USB 1.0 port...]
Conclusion, don't expect mad speed from SD or CF specially on cards which are max size [where RAID'ing isn't possible].
Tom
Of course you fail to mention that your country is also
:-)
a) lot smaller
b) Not trading in USD
c) Full of weird as small cars [not a bad thing though].
I mean for me to drive home to my folks place is equivalent to [roughly] driving entirely from one end of England to the other. And I don't even leave the province I'm in to do my trip!!! Talk to me when you live in a country that is 3000Km wide about the price of gas.
That and yeah, if oil wasn't traded in USD you'd probably have an easier time buying gas. Of course the next logical choice is the euro, not the pound. So you're still fucked.
Tom
Why is there always someone who posts this comment. No shit, OMG PONIES firefox has ad blockers.
That doesn't mean putting a single page story on 20 pages is any more enjoyable to read.
You fucking karmatrolls are fucking annoying. You're like the little 6 yr old trying to get the attention of his parents or something. Shut the fuck up already until you have something insightful to say.
Tom
Not a lot has changed since the 90s as far as I can tell from your post. Though you would kinda assume that any company would be big on their own tech. Don't see many Linux boxes at Microsoft, or AMD boxes at Intel, ... :-) All the desktops and laptops are IBM [or lenovo]. Though the newish Thinkpads do look kinda spiffy.
... all Windows too...It seems [from my personal experience] that "Linux" extends only to the servers in the minds of the average person there. The thought of using it on a workstation is just mind boggling.
Just wish they [being pretty much the entire industry] didn't all use Windows. It's nice for IBM to be this "Linux advocate", but everyday I go to work I sit at a Windows machine, use Outlook [or notes]. My other companies gear
The official line usually is "You can use whatever you want provided it can work with MS Exchange, read and write MS Word and Powerpoint files". Which basically locks you into Windows. But alas, it is "their" computer. If they want me running Windows then so be it.
Tom
The latest xorg [well at least a week or so ago] prohibited the use of nvidia kernel...Are you using ~amd64?
Tom
Because they don't listen to their customers?
For me working in Window is painful, and only have useful with a dozen tools like cygwin, adobe, etc...
In Linux I can "just work". Booting windows to play games isn't an option as multiple people use this box. Where in Linux I can totally dominate one of my four cores with a video game, if I boot windows they get 0 of the 4 cores to use.
Tom
Um, you realize that in a 2P config the extra socket would not be "sharing" system memory. Though you're right they tend to use already use GDDR2/GDDR3 [iirc similar to DDR2].
Though yeah I guess the memory would still be slower.
Tom