"Up There" didn't have any cussing in it. Neither did the "La Resistance" montage tune. I prefer the theory someone else posted about it being a way of silently honoring Mary Kay Bergman, one of the most talented voice actresses to ever live. --- "'Is not a quine' is not a quine" is a quine.
In the USA, NC-17 (which is really 17+, not 18+) == porn == something no respectable theatre will show == something destined to obscurity and being a huge amount of money-wasted egg on the producers' faces.
Basically, if a movie isn't deemed suitable for a 5-year-old to watch with an adult present, it's doomed to fail in the eyes of our high-and-mighty motion picture association. --- "'Is not a quine' is not a quine" is a quine.
Little known fact... they're making fun of a particular recording of "It's a small world after all" done many years ago where, after a few verses in English, they said "And if you went to another country, the kids singing it might sound like this!" and then proceeded to have various renditions of the song in very bad pigeon caricatures of the languages. That is, in French it wasn't really French but French-sounding jibberish, and same for Hebrew and Japanese and the like. Very stereotypical, stupid, and completely contrary to the point of the song (for what that's worth). --- "'Is not a quine' is not a quine" is a quine.
Yeah, too bad this country was originally founded on freedom from religious persecution...
BTW, I go a bit more into detail lambasting his and other such websites on Everything2 (go to the node entitled "Christian movie reviews", look for the writeup authored by Magenta), in case you care. --- "'Is not a quine' is not a quine" is a quine.
Yeah, South Park was certainly one of the more profound movies of 1999, and it was nicely self-referentially self-aware. I appreciate that in a movie, what with my love for quine-ish things and all that. It's also funny to see the various so-called Christian movie review sites' treatments of it; they're giving exactly the same response which the movie parodies and provocatively makes fun of. It's too bad that the Christian Coalition etc. completely miss the point, but then again, them missing the point is part of the point, so...
I think probably the funniest thing in the CAPcare Project's review (www.capalert.com) is that they focus totally on the depravity, cursing, Satanism, homosexuality (when they're portraying evil people as homosexual and vice-versa - they should be LAUDING it if they don't want to be hypocrites!) and the like, but only make a passing reference to the racism ("Operation Human Shield/Get Behind the Darkies," "All those times I called you a stupid Jew, I didn't mean it; you're not a Jew" and so forth).
At least they're consistent. Their review of GalaxyQuest places it at wholesome even though there's cleavage, sex and violence, while Bicentennial Man is evil because a machine is implied to have a soul. They lambaste movies for having supposedly-Buddhist practices (see "Anna and the King"), when the word "God" is used in a positive sense that's still a bad mark against it, and "A Bug's Life" is bad because a bird chases against the bugs (come on, it's what birds DO!). --- "'Is not a quine' is not a quine" is a quine.
Well, you can tell. You'll notice that most of my posts which are at +2 are just (Score: 2), rather than, for example, (Score: 2, Informative). Similarly, that's how you can tell the difference between someone whose default posting level is -1 and someone who just got moderated down. --- "'Is not a quine' is not a quine" is a quine.
Or you could go by that one commercial with the person shooting the animals - as in with a camera - which is the best kind of sport hunting I can think of, since you can show off the animal you caught (on film) without harming it (unless you believe that photons hitting an emulsion takes away the soul of the last thing the photons bounced off of). --- "'Is not a quine' is not a quine" is a quine.
> "Readers will notice that one of your fellow readers is abusing the system."
Right away, the tone is "us vs. them". "One of your fellow readers?" Remember when the Slashdot editors were part of the community that read their site? Now, we're "readers". They're "editors".
To me, that sounded more like some sort of "There's a traitor among us," and gearing up to a McCarthy-esque finger-pointing reputation-ruining person-destroying witch hunt.
Face it, folks. Slashdot is a big-money "portal" site now. The fact that the spambot is being treated as such a crisis is evidence. Slashdot is just like ZDNet or MSNBC with a pronounced pro-Linux bias. The ".org" extension is deceptive and should be dropped.
To their credit, they did manage to recover slashdot.com from the squatter, but it's just a redirect to slashdot.org.
The spambot is just a simple shell script. It could have been written at any point in Slashdot's life. I'm sure many people who visit this site have had the idea of auto-posting at one point. So why did it happen now?
Well, someone claiming to be the author posted a sort of "manifesto" under the DDoS article where he tries to justify why he did it. I have mixed feelings, though I do feel that the points he raises have been mentioned in comments many times (by both trolls and non-trolls alike) and yet there hasn't been any implementation of the suggestions, and so something more extreme seemed justified, to him at least.
I don't condone activism of that sort, but I read his diatribe as meaning that he wanted to vent some frustration and make a point while doing it. I dunno. --- "'Is not a quine' is not a quine" is a quine.
Another idea: anonymous posters must enter a name and email address
at the time of posting if they do not log in. If you want to constantly post garbage, you'll have to spend time rotating your name spoof over and over.
And then Slashdot would have to verify this email address, I take it? More wasted bandwidth and CPU.
To share the moderation load, you should be able to view only unmoderated comments, i.e. ones that need your touch.
So basically, it gets moderated once, and then never again - so if someone unfairly moderates a 1 down to -1, and that moderation doesn't get M2ed, that post is screwed without admin intervention.
I do not believe anyone should get any automatic bonuses. But it should be very common for people to get automatic penalties.
This I agree with. --- "'Is not a quine' is not a quine" is a quine.
1) Check to see if the method is a GET or POST. It's much easier to whip up a quick script for a GET since it reads the variables from the URL string.
Unfortunately, this won't work anymore. Part of what the spam-troll released in his source apparently converts plaintext into URL-encoded HTML (judging by the fact one of the scripts is called 'url-encode'), and then as seen in post-stuff.sh, it reformats it into a POST request, rather than a GET. So, in effect, this troll has made your suggestion moot before it was even made.:/ --- "'Is not a quine' is not a quine" is a quine.
2) Karma needs to weigh much, much more. People with karma over 50 should start posting at 2. People with karma over 100 should start posting at 3. People with karma over 200 should start posting at 4 and people with karma over 500 (if they exist) must be worth reading.
I think this would serve nicely as a self-regulating mechanism. If you like having a strong positive Karma, and the benefits that go with it, you continue to post useful comments.
Unfortuantely, from what I've seen, it's exactly this which is the problem - karma whores who post quasi-"insightful" stuff as early as they can to an article just for the sake of ego inflation. If you'd actually read any of the trolls who are asking for the abolishment of moderation, you'd notice that they generally have a disdain for the whole karma system. And personally, I agree with them.
As an example, a few days ago, on the "life on other planets" article, I decided to do a little experiment. I had an opportunity to get a first post, so I made a long-winded seemingly-insightful comment which had absolutely nothing to do with the article, but seemed like it since it was related to the idea of life on other worlds being improbable but not impossible. Trite, banal, and completely pointless - but yet it got moderated up to +5.
This is the kind of thing which the trolls apparently have an issue with. --- "'Is not a quine' is not a quine" is a quine.
Oh, I was under the impression (based on screenshots etc.) that the Riva128 didn't do bilinear, though the updated version (the 128ZX) did. --- "'Is not a quine' is not a quine" is a quine.
That's nothin'. Check out my user info page.:) (And I've had that for a few days now.)
Oh, and the original picture is hidden in my website (yes, that's the diplomat photo for the porcupine race I added to Civ:CTP during LokiHack). --- "'Is not a quine' is not a quine" is a quine.
It kinda exists already. There's a GGI target for Mesa, and there's an AAlib target for GGI; by extension, there's an AAlib target for Quake3.:) It'll be really fscking slow unless you turn off texture filtering, though, and even then Q3 is quite unplayable (not that being in textmode would make it any easier).
To turn off the filtering, BTW, you have to start up Q3, bring up the console, wait a billion years for the console to become visible, set the texture mode to GL_NEAREST, and wait a billion years again. It'd seem there's no way to keep Q3's texture filtering off by default unless they changed their mind since q3test 1.08 (even if you set the texture mode in the config, it'd revert to the default of bilinear, and there was no way to select anything less than bilinear in any GUI). Kind of annoying, since there ARE some cards out there with sufficient fillrate which don't implement filtering in hardware (the Riva 128 springs to mind), and just because it won't be quite as pretty on those cards doesn't mean they should be unsupported entirely... I mean, come ON, it probably takes more code to *disallow* them (by forcing at least bilinear filtering).
Oops, heh, sorry about that. But anyway, yes, you can most likely do aalib rendering for Quake3 already, but it'll be [even more of] a pain to deal with. --- "'Is not a quine' is not a quine" is a quine.
Well, actually, this results from an email conversation I had with him when he first showed up on slashdot. I gave him a polite suggestion that he not be so condescending to his target audience. His response was to mention how long he'd been a writer at Wired and how he'd written several books, and that therefore I must be full of shit. --- "'Is not a quine' is not a quine" is a quine.
I think all the filter settings were removed recently, since I had to go back in and recheck the little checkbox. Very annoying. --- "'Is not a quine' is not a quine" is a quine.
Then he completely went and negated all of that on the last page, where he insults people for thinking he's a gasbag and then says that it keeps him from being a gasbag:
I don't know. I get tons of very nice email. The public message boards of Slashdot tend to be populated by teenagers who resent the fact that I'm not a computer geek. I'm not a programmer, so some resent that, too. But I think my opinions are controversial. In my nine years [of Internet writing], the public posts have tended to be very hostile. But I think it is healthy for me to be challenged. This is what keeps you from being a New York Times op-ed page gasbag. My job is to make people think, to start conversations.
I'd hate to be labelled as a "teenager" by him for saying these things. In fact, although there's definitely a lot of what I'd begrudgingly call teenage angst on Slashdot, I'm sure there's plenty of adults flaming him as well. Myself, I'm 21, for what that's worth, though I've met plenty of 15-year-olds who are more mature than me, and plenty of flaming idiots who are in their 30s. --- "'Is not a quine' is not a quine" is a quine.
I just read his bit on Playboy. It's actually pretty good, and he seems almost like an intelligent being. Maybe its becuse it's harder to be long-winded when you're actually talking and not disengaging your brain and typing in a long-winded ramble.
I recommend reading the Playboy interview. It's actually somewhat insightful, without being incredibly condescending and down-speaking. I wonder if he only talks down to geeks; he sure doesn't patronize the Playboy interviewer like he does to the Slashdot readers. --- "'Is not a quine' is not a quine" is a quine.
Ahh, yes, the joy of each question being answered by a little mini-Katz article, each one pontificating about how intellectual and insightful he is and how stupid various people are for disagreeing with his assertions. I was hoping to see something to validate his existence within my own personal reality, but there was nothing of the sort.
He even went back to his old, tired arguments about how since he's written a bunch of books and articles that means he's a better writer (and therefore person) than anyone who would say otherwise.
In the meantime, recently all my filters seem to have disappeared... I had checked the JonKatz 'ignore' checkbox in my prefs so that I wouldn't have to put up with the irritating blurbs to his articles, but between JonKatz articles being posted by other people and my filter settings disappearing, I'm getting way too much Katz for my liking. It almost seems like a conspiracy to force people to read his stuff. (Yeah, I know, "You don't have to read it." Yes, and I'd rather not waste the bandwidth on downloading his blurbs or on the aggrivation that I get from accidentally reading them.) --- "'Is not a quine' is not a quine" is a quine.
Myself, I've gotten sick of moderating, and I've got karma to burn... Why save a sinking ship when it's *so* much more fun to get under it with scuba gear and an underwater cutting torch?
I think it's interesting (not in a JonKatz way, mind you) how lately I've been reading the comments for the funny trolls more than for the hope of seeing something truly insightful... --- "'Is not a quine' is not a quine" is a quine.
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"Up There" didn't have any cussing in it. Neither did the "La Resistance" montage tune. I prefer the theory someone else posted about it being a way of silently honoring Mary Kay Bergman, one of the most talented voice actresses to ever live.
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Basically, if a movie isn't deemed suitable for a 5-year-old to watch with an adult present, it's doomed to fail in the eyes of our high-and-mighty motion picture association.
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Though if we're going to assume Disney will win, why not the music from Tarzan?
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Little known fact... they're making fun of a particular recording of "It's a small world after all" done many years ago where, after a few verses in English, they said "And if you went to another country, the kids singing it might sound like this!" and then proceeded to have various renditions of the song in very bad pigeon caricatures of the languages. That is, in French it wasn't really French but French-sounding jibberish, and same for Hebrew and Japanese and the like. Very stereotypical, stupid, and completely contrary to the point of the song (for what that's worth).
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Funny, I could have sworn he was saying "King kong mega mega beeeyotch."
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BTW, I go a bit more into detail lambasting his and other such websites on Everything2 (go to the node entitled "Christian movie reviews", look for the writeup authored by Magenta), in case you care.
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Yeah, South Park was certainly one of the more profound movies of 1999, and it was nicely self-referentially self-aware. I appreciate that in a movie, what with my love for quine-ish things and all that. It's also funny to see the various so-called Christian movie review sites' treatments of it; they're giving exactly the same response which the movie parodies and provocatively makes fun of. It's too bad that the Christian Coalition etc. completely miss the point, but then again, them missing the point is part of the point, so...
I think probably the funniest thing in the CAPcare Project's review (www.capalert.com) is that they focus totally on the depravity, cursing, Satanism, homosexuality (when they're portraying evil people as homosexual and vice-versa - they should be LAUDING it if they don't want to be hypocrites!) and the like, but only make a passing reference to the racism ("Operation Human Shield/Get Behind the Darkies," "All those times I called you a stupid Jew, I didn't mean it; you're not a Jew" and so forth).
At least they're consistent. Their review of GalaxyQuest places it at wholesome even though there's cleavage, sex and violence, while Bicentennial Man is evil because a machine is implied to have a soul. They lambaste movies for having supposedly-Buddhist practices (see "Anna and the King"), when the word "God" is used in a positive sense that's still a bad mark against it, and "A Bug's Life" is bad because a bird chases against the bugs (come on, it's what birds DO!).
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More like still recovering from the spammer attack. :/
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echo `pwgen 8`@`pwgen 8`.net
or whatever.
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Well, you can tell. You'll notice that most of my posts which are at +2 are just (Score: 2), rather than, for example, (Score: 2, Informative). Similarly, that's how you can tell the difference between someone whose default posting level is -1 and someone who just got moderated down.
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Or you could go by that one commercial with the person shooting the animals - as in with a camera - which is the best kind of sport hunting I can think of, since you can show off the animal you caught (on film) without harming it (unless you believe that photons hitting an emulsion takes away the soul of the last thing the photons bounced off of).
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"'Is not a quine' is not a quine" is a quine.
- > "Readers will notice that one of your fellow readers is abusing the system."
To me, that sounded more like some sort of "There's a traitor among us," and gearing up to a McCarthy-esque finger-pointing reputation-ruining person-destroying witch hunt.Right away, the tone is "us vs. them". "One of your fellow readers?" Remember when the Slashdot editors were part of the community that read their site? Now, we're "readers". They're "editors".
- Face it, folks. Slashdot is a big-money "portal" site now. The fact that the spambot is being treated as such a crisis is evidence. Slashdot is just like ZDNet or MSNBC with a pronounced pro-Linux bias. The ".org" extension is deceptive and should be dropped.
To their credit, they did manage to recover slashdot.com from the squatter, but it's just a redirect to slashdot.org.- The spambot is just a simple shell script. It could have been written at any point in Slashdot's life. I'm sure many people who visit this site have had the idea of auto-posting at one point. So why did it happen now?
Well, someone claiming to be the author posted a sort of "manifesto" under the DDoS article where he tries to justify why he did it. I have mixed feelings, though I do feel that the points he raises have been mentioned in comments many times (by both trolls and non-trolls alike) and yet there hasn't been any implementation of the suggestions, and so something more extreme seemed justified, to him at least.I don't condone activism of that sort, but I read his diatribe as meaning that he wanted to vent some frustration and make a point while doing it. I dunno.
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- Another idea: anonymous posters must enter a name and email address
- at the time of posting if they do not log in. If you want to constantly post garbage, you'll have to spend time rotating your name spoof over and over.
And then Slashdot would have to verify this email address, I take it? More wasted bandwidth and CPU.- To share the moderation load, you should be able to view only unmoderated comments, i.e. ones that need your touch.
So basically, it gets moderated once, and then never again - so if someone unfairly moderates a 1 down to -1, and that moderation doesn't get M2ed, that post is screwed without admin intervention.- I do not believe anyone should get any automatic bonuses. But it should be very common for people to get automatic penalties.
This I agree with.---
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- 1) Check to see if the method is a GET or POST. It's much easier to whip up a quick script for a GET since it reads the variables from the URL string.
Unfortunately, this won't work anymore. Part of what the spam-troll released in his source apparently converts plaintext into URL-encoded HTML (judging by the fact one of the scripts is called 'url-encode'), and then as seen in post-stuff.sh, it reformats it into a POST request, rather than a GET. So, in effect, this troll has made your suggestion moot before it was even made.---
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- 2) Karma needs to weigh much, much more. People with karma over 50 should start posting at 2. People with karma over 100 should start posting at 3. People with karma over 200 should start posting at 4 and people with karma over 500 (if they exist) must be worth reading.
Unfortuantely, from what I've seen, it's exactly this which is the problem - karma whores who post quasi-"insightful" stuff as early as they can to an article just for the sake of ego inflation. If you'd actually read any of the trolls who are asking for the abolishment of moderation, you'd notice that they generally have a disdain for the whole karma system. And personally, I agree with them.I think this would serve nicely as a self-regulating mechanism. If you like having a strong positive Karma, and the benefits that go with it, you continue to post useful comments.
As an example, a few days ago, on the "life on other planets" article, I decided to do a little experiment. I had an opportunity to get a first post, so I made a long-winded seemingly-insightful comment which had absolutely nothing to do with the article, but seemed like it since it was related to the idea of life on other worlds being improbable but not impossible. Trite, banal, and completely pointless - but yet it got moderated up to +5.
This is the kind of thing which the trolls apparently have an issue with.
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Oh, I was under the impression (based on screenshots etc.) that the Riva128 didn't do bilinear, though the updated version (the 128ZX) did.
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Oh, and the original picture is hidden in my website (yes, that's the diplomat photo for the porcupine race I added to Civ:CTP during LokiHack).
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To turn off the filtering, BTW, you have to start up Q3, bring up the console, wait a billion years for the console to become visible, set the texture mode to GL_NEAREST, and wait a billion years again. It'd seem there's no way to keep Q3's texture filtering off by default unless they changed their mind since q3test 1.08 (even if you set the texture mode in the config, it'd revert to the default of bilinear, and there was no way to select anything less than bilinear in any GUI). Kind of annoying, since there ARE some cards out there with sufficient fillrate which don't implement filtering in hardware (the Riva 128 springs to mind), and just because it won't be quite as pretty on those cards doesn't mean they should be unsupported entirely... I mean, come ON, it probably takes more code to *disallow* them (by forcing at least bilinear filtering).
Oops, heh, sorry about that. But anyway, yes, you can most likely do aalib rendering for Quake3 already, but it'll be [even more of] a pain to deal with.
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Well, actually, this results from an email conversation I had with him when he first showed up on slashdot. I gave him a polite suggestion that he not be so condescending to his target audience. His response was to mention how long he'd been a writer at Wired and how he'd written several books, and that therefore I must be full of shit.
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I think all the filter settings were removed recently, since I had to go back in and recheck the little checkbox. Very annoying.
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- I don't know. I get tons of very nice email. The public message boards of Slashdot tend to be populated by teenagers who resent the fact that I'm not a computer geek. I'm not a programmer, so some resent that, too. But I think my opinions are controversial. In my nine years [of Internet writing], the public posts have tended to be very hostile. But I think it is healthy for me to be challenged. This is what keeps you from being a New York Times op-ed page gasbag. My job is to make people think, to start conversations.
I'd hate to be labelled as a "teenager" by him for saying these things. In fact, although there's definitely a lot of what I'd begrudgingly call teenage angst on Slashdot, I'm sure there's plenty of adults flaming him as well. Myself, I'm 21, for what that's worth, though I've met plenty of 15-year-olds who are more mature than me, and plenty of flaming idiots who are in their 30s.---
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I recommend reading the Playboy interview. It's actually somewhat insightful, without being incredibly condescending and down-speaking. I wonder if he only talks down to geeks; he sure doesn't patronize the Playboy interviewer like he does to the Slashdot readers.
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He even went back to his old, tired arguments about how since he's written a bunch of books and articles that means he's a better writer (and therefore person) than anyone who would say otherwise.
In the meantime, recently all my filters seem to have disappeared... I had checked the JonKatz 'ignore' checkbox in my prefs so that I wouldn't have to put up with the irritating blurbs to his articles, but between JonKatz articles being posted by other people and my filter settings disappearing, I'm getting way too much Katz for my liking. It almost seems like a conspiracy to force people to read his stuff. (Yeah, I know, "You don't have to read it." Yes, and I'd rather not waste the bandwidth on downloading his blurbs or on the aggrivation that I get from accidentally reading them.)
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I think it's interesting (not in a JonKatz way, mind you) how lately I've been reading the comments for the funny trolls more than for the hope of seeing something truly insightful...
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My choice for Arthur would be Miles, from Murphy Brown, but that's just MHO.
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