It will be interesting to see if Google allow the iPhone5 to launch. Clearly, when the situation is reversed, the whole product is banned, but as we all know Google do no evil. Or is evil justified when it's the only way of dealing with the evil being done by another?
"Those two things make it a useless toy when it comes to the corporate world."
Thank fuck you blew your cred with "WM was the top dog before the iPhone came out", completely ignoring Symbian and Nokia. Why, if you hadn't done that you might well have got me there buddy.
Wow. Their tablet bombed a month from launch and that's the straw which broke the camels back, causing the top brass to pull the whole company out of hardware totally. Just, like, Wow. I was at the Gadget show in the UK earlier this year and an HP rep gave me a prelaunch demo - I was genuinely impressed, both by the kit and his enthusiasm. This is a brutal business indeed.
Coiffin, meet nail. He just blew the m$ mobile plan B: extortion through litigation, since plan A - a quality mobile OS - is clearly dead in the water.
"Even if Moto delivers a phone configured to default to Google, Verizon or Spring could override that configuration to point to Bing". Why are you repeating yourself?
Hey asshole - you'd lose count the number of Google patents the iPhone5 will now need to license. If it appears at all, its because the Apple bullies had to U turn sharpish and go cap in hand to Google. You seem to forget - this is the Telecoms business, not turdshine toys these newbies think they can block because they reckon they invented rounded corners. Google has their finger over the fucking disconnect button now - how many will they sell if it can't connect to a mobile network?
It's one thing to bully johnny foreigner about like HTC, Samsung etc. Motorola made the first mobile call in 1973, 3 years before Apple existed (well, that's if you are talking about the Apple with the same name as the Beatles record label which hates copying so much). Motorola has thousands of patents going right back through this peroid. You can only imagine how many of these relate to fundamental baseband radio tech. So these newcomers whining about the shape of the corners on their toys don't seem to realise the established guys quite literally have their finger over the button when it comes to radio comms. Let's see how many tablets/phones they sell when they can't make airtime connections.
I for one can't wait until their next invention, the one where you can load tunes to your device without needing wires. I hear they are to call it the iNternet.
The UK is once again in the ludicrous situation it was in of having actual government ministers go on TV and tell the country it's cheaper to go ahead and build pointless aircraft carriers than stop the projects right now. We see once again the level of courage they had with the banks - who just announced *bonuses*, not investments or redundancy payments, freaking *bonuses*, of £14bn - paid for by the real workers. Announced co-incidentally the day the Murdochs were publicly grilled, so it got little coverage. Thank goodness it's not their money.
> I think you are confused. Au contraire, mon amie!
Will this marvel be unable to handle FAT32 formatted media? Phew, they ducked that one nicely then but, err, good luck selling it to the real world. I don't believe HTC let it be known which parts of the linux kernel they agreed to pay m$ extortion fees over their Android phones, but I'll be willing to bet they fought tooth and nail to avoid it, even though they are most definitely "not a generic box shifter that has to pay the £35-ish MS tax".
Read my post again. Hey and cheers to all those who modded me down. Why it's almost as if someone, somewhere is sitting there trying to snuff out all anti-m$ posts here on Slashdot. Good luck with that.
If you work in a newspaper all you do is befriend a victim of crime, "donate" one to them out of the goodness of our heart and - wahay! - all your base are belong to us.
You got it - except there are also layers of this between the guy doing the grunt work and the ultimate bill payer. True story - a few years ago I contracted at what I considered a decent hourly rate for a year via an agency to a UK gov dept. At my leaving drink, there happened to be another leaving party from the same organisation at the next table, except these were accountants (I was software dev). When I started chatting and my name came up, the girl immediately said "well with you gone that's £160/hr we'll be saving". Freaking what??? I saw a quarter of that. Together we then counted 3 layers of wasteful outsourcers pointlessly outsourcing to other outsourcers, well pointless unless you count the margin each had been adding for a year.
The outsourcers are evil. Pick any of the 3-letter acronym usual suspects and there's a great chance it's the one I personally know charged £8000 to write 1 line of SQL.
The basic "cloning a commercial service is easy" tone of this article used to be ok up to a point - realtime push notifications. All clients need to know when items were dropped, not just what. For Android, up until version 2.2 this was a pain - you had to implement long poll http battery-draining lookup schemes. Not so nowadays - 2.2+ gives developers C2DM - cloud to device messaging - which should put the nail amongst the pigeons, to deliberately mix my metaphors. Now any app/server can basically push to any handset (that's running your listening software, natch), so it's hello to IM'ing every app etc, and a genuine worry for those previously in this exclusive space.
Disclaimer - I wrote the drop.io Android client before Facebook bought them out and I never heard from them again.
There will always be a stubborn brainwashed segment of the market that favour style over substance. Had you asked them about crappy design causing signal loss, they'd just tell you how pretty it was. This won't ever change - its a basic trait of some personalities which Apple are exploiting.
I hear Apple are about to iNvent iT. Soon, you'll be able to load songs to an iPhone using iT. This iNternet will be trumpeted from the highest rooftops as a monumental breakthrough, comparable to their iNvention of cut 'n' paste, by the fanbois who have once again willfully iGnored the fact other phones have been doing iT for years now.
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It will be interesting to see if Google allow the iPhone5 to launch. Clearly, when the situation is reversed, the whole product is banned, but as we all know Google do no evil. Or is evil justified when it's the only way of dealing with the evil being done by another?
"Those two things make it a useless toy when it comes to the corporate world."
Thank fuck you blew your cred with "WM was the top dog before the iPhone came out", completely ignoring Symbian and Nokia. Why, if you hadn't done that you might well have got me there buddy.
Wow. Their tablet bombed a month from launch and that's the straw which broke the camels back, causing the top brass to pull the whole company out of hardware totally. Just, like, Wow. I was at the Gadget show in the UK earlier this year and an HP rep gave me a prelaunch demo - I was genuinely impressed, both by the kit and his enthusiasm. This is a brutal business indeed.
Coiffin, meet nail. He just blew the m$ mobile plan B: extortion through litigation, since plan A - a quality mobile OS - is clearly dead in the water.
"Even if Moto delivers a phone configured to default to Google, Verizon or Spring could override that configuration to point to Bing".
Why are you repeating yourself?
Hey asshole - you'd lose count the number of Google patents the iPhone5 will now need to license. If it appears at all, its because the Apple bullies had to U turn sharpish and go cap in hand to Google. You seem to forget - this is the Telecoms business, not turdshine toys these newbies think they can block because they reckon they invented rounded corners. Google has their finger over the fucking disconnect button now - how many will they sell if it can't connect to a mobile network?
Yup - starting with Australia and then on to Europe,
“he believes in Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, and Linux on the desktop.” ... "and even Windows Phone 7 will achieve more than 1% market share"
Did someone say prior art?
I wonder if these guys from 1994 took their idea from Kubrick in 1965 and just added rounded corners to their tablet?
It's one thing to bully johnny foreigner about like HTC, Samsung etc. Motorola made the first mobile call in 1973, 3 years before Apple existed (well, that's if you are talking about the Apple with the same name as the Beatles record label which hates copying so much). Motorola has thousands of patents going right back through this peroid. You can only imagine how many of these relate to fundamental baseband radio tech. So these newcomers whining about the shape of the corners on their toys don't seem to realise the established guys quite literally have their finger over the button when it comes to radio comms. Let's see how many tablets/phones they sell when they can't make airtime connections.
They own the concept of a tablet? Wow, the reverse royalties from Kubrick must be awesome.
I for one can't wait until their next invention, the one where you can load tunes to your device without needing wires. I hear they are to call it the iNternet.
They'd blog about it.
s/health/defence
The UK is once again in the ludicrous situation it was in of having actual government ministers go on TV and tell the country it's cheaper to go ahead and build pointless aircraft carriers than stop the projects right now. We see once again the level of courage they had with the banks - who just announced *bonuses*, not investments or redundancy payments, freaking *bonuses*, of £14bn - paid for by the real workers. Announced co-incidentally the day the Murdochs were publicly grilled, so it got little coverage. Thank goodness it's not their money.
> I think you are confused.
Au contraire, mon amie!
Will this marvel be unable to handle FAT32 formatted media? Phew, they ducked that one nicely then but, err, good luck selling it to the real world.
I don't believe HTC let it be known which parts of the linux kernel they agreed to pay m$ extortion fees over their Android phones, but I'll be willing to bet they fought tooth and nail to avoid it, even though they are most definitely "not a generic box shifter that has to pay the £35-ish MS tax".
Read my post again. Hey and cheers to all those who modded me down. Why it's almost as if someone, somewhere is sitting there trying to snuff out all anti-m$ posts here on Slashdot. Good luck with that.
Or could it be they're waiting until it's widespread before pouncing with the only business model they have left?
If you work in a newspaper all you do is befriend a victim of crime, "donate" one to them out of the goodness of our heart and - wahay! - all your base are belong to us.
You got it - except there are also layers of this between the guy doing the grunt work and the ultimate bill payer. True story - a few years ago I contracted at what I considered a decent hourly rate for a year via an agency to a UK gov dept. At my leaving drink, there happened to be another leaving party from the same organisation at the next table, except these were accountants (I was software dev). When I started chatting and my name came up, the girl immediately said "well with you gone that's £160/hr we'll be saving". Freaking what??? I saw a quarter of that. Together we then counted 3 layers of wasteful outsourcers pointlessly outsourcing to other outsourcers, well pointless unless you count the margin each had been adding for a year.
The outsourcers are evil. Pick any of the 3-letter acronym usual suspects and there's a great chance it's the one I personally know charged £8000 to write 1 line of SQL.
The basic "cloning a commercial service is easy" tone of this article used to be ok up to a point - realtime push notifications. All clients need to know when items were dropped, not just what. For Android, up until version 2.2 this was a pain - you had to implement long poll http battery-draining lookup schemes. Not so nowadays - 2.2+ gives developers C2DM - cloud to device messaging - which should put the nail amongst the pigeons, to deliberately mix my metaphors. Now any app/server can basically push to any handset (that's running your listening software, natch), so it's hello to IM'ing every app etc, and a genuine worry for those previously in this exclusive space.
Disclaimer - I wrote the drop.io Android client before Facebook bought them out and I never heard from them again.
There will always be a stubborn brainwashed segment of the market that favour style over substance. Had you asked them about crappy design causing signal loss, they'd just tell you how pretty it was. This won't ever change - its a basic trait of some personalities which Apple are exploiting.
I hear Apple are about to iNvent iT. Soon, you'll be able to load songs to an iPhone using iT. This iNternet will be trumpeted from the highest rooftops as a monumental breakthrough, comparable to their iNvention of cut 'n' paste, by the fanbois who have once again willfully iGnored the fact other phones have been doing iT for years now.
Did you even know there was a Windows 7 tablet?
Its from all the happy, overjoyed Nokia staff as a welcoming gift to their new incoming friends.
Kin, Symbian now Windows 7 ... hmm, you might be into something with this phone OS serial killer angle.