And what was so special about the moon to create that brand value?
That's easy to answer. The moon has had a special place in the human imagination since time immemorial.
Exactly this, thanks. This was my first thought, then figured that I didn't want to be redundant...someone surely had replied as you did. I can't remember too many romantic poems/songs about the vast blackness above us. It's always about the moon/planet/stars.
Now, nil-gravity is cool to play in, I imagine, but space is like a desert. A few people like it for what it is, most people just want to get across it asap.
The Romans were close to collapse several times, and found ways to re-invent themselves. It was always violent, and the society had to make great changes to adapt to conditions.
I suppose one could say that they changed so much each time (republic to principate to dominant) that a new society was rebuilt, but they still called themselves Romans.
I wouldn't consider this proof. I followed the link & read..."George Bush has claimed he was on a mission from God when he launched the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq, according to a senior Palestinian politician"
Problems I see...
1) This is hearsay. Typically not valid for a proof. 2) Possible or likely hidden agenda. Remember, politicians, Palestinian or otherwise, can and will lie to achieve their goals.
If you want to do things fast, cheap and well a Kelly Johnson Skunkworks model is probably a much better choice than a bureaucratic quagmire.
I agree, though keeping in mind that it still took gobs of govt money. I think what's going on regarding govt contracts with SpaceX & the others is a good direction to go. These companies are our "Skunkworks" for the time being.
This doesn't provide directly for exploration, of course, but I think it will eventually facilitate it.
I suspect the Outer Space Treaty will have to be amended eventually, to allow bases, etc. Perhaps along the lines of the treaties governing nations in Antarctica.
"Don't worry; it's just a matter of time until someone provokes our latent inferiority complex again."
Yep. Once another nation gets close to being able to throw rocks down the gravity well, we'll go into a panic, and get the military-industrial complex behind the project to "reach the asteroids first", or whatever.
"If getting off this rock isn't priority #1 then you're just burying your head in the sand, and ignoring the fossil records found therein."
Nice line, that's a keeper. I was just watching a show on the top 7 catastophic events to occur on Earth: "The Great Dying", "Ordovician Die-off", "K-T Event" (of course), etc. Cosmic events ranging from planetoids to asteroids to supernova gamma rays.
Apart from that, sex and food what else motivates humanity?
Making money (which seems to be what *everyone* wants to do) is just to get more food, and sex time anyways. Oh and moon bases, ferraris, whatever. So yeah. Good enough for me
Would NASA have ever been able to do that? No. NASA would have sent the rocket into space with the problem because it had no such software. This already seems way better and safer.
I specifically remember at least one shuttle launch was aborted in a similar manner, and I believe there was at least one instance back when we were riding candles.
Factually wrong. Caps for the start of sentences go way back before the printing press.
Along with a preceding period and space, a cap at the start of a sentence makes reading much easier. The flow is better. It's a convention that has lasted centuries because it's useful, unlike other conventions that have passed away.
I believe I understand where this comes from. when i was a c programmer i tended to drop all my caps. conversely i'd stick them in placesTheyDontBelong. When I was a Cobol programmer, I tended to stick dashes-all-over-the-place. It didn't look weird to me 'cause I read & wrote that stuff all day long. Looking back at my old notes, I'm amused by how much the comp language de jour affected my writing.
I took a look. Good for quick research (assuming good data). May not be overly interesting to the casual browser (which is not its demographic, of course). The data is structured for useful comparisons. There are templates or forms for the type of data they are looking for. I imagine that most or all of the entries will get most of the forms filled out eventually.
Can you give me an example of a non-RTOS? I've having trouble finding explanations of these things that I can understand via the google (but I'm not particularly bright about these things).
Let's see if I can give the nickel tour...
Standard Windows, Unix & Linux OS's are all non-RTOS.
An OS runs many processes that execute the programs and also take care of things in the background. Each process gets a timeslice, a share of the cpu. They often have to wait for an external event, such as disk or network i/o, and will queue up to wait for these events. A process is not guaranteed a constant response time for a given event, because higher priority processes or queueing may take your slice.
A primary feature of an RTOS, on the other hand, is that it will handle external events or special processes immediately. A sensor input. A keypress. A touchscreen. You get a (generally) guaranteed response.
Hey, I like this thread. I'll play. No taxes! Everybody pay their own way on what they want to use!
Some of us won't make it. We'll have to do something about that. I know, ship 'em off!
There's got to be a new frontier somewhere...lesse, can't ship 'em off to Australia or North America any more. How about the moon? It's close and has lot's of real estate.
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Argh, I meant to say a rational *person* would condemn god's atrocious behavior.
NP. I thought you were being "deep".
In the beginning was everything. The circumference was constant. The inside started shrinking away from the periphery and it's still shrinking today.
Cheers!
That's a relatively interesting post.
And what was so special about the moon to create that brand value?
That's easy to answer. The moon has had a special place in the human imagination since time immemorial.
Exactly this, thanks. This was my first thought, then figured that I didn't want to be redundant...someone surely had replied as you did. I can't remember too many romantic poems/songs about the vast blackness above us. It's always about the moon/planet/stars.
Now, nil-gravity is cool to play in, I imagine, but space is like a desert. A few people like it for what it is, most people just want to get across it asap.
The Romans were close to collapse several times, and found ways to re-invent themselves. It was always violent, and the society had to make great changes to adapt to conditions.
I suppose one could say that they changed so much each time (republic to principate to dominant) that a new society was rebuilt, but they still called themselves Romans.
sr
I wouldn't consider this proof. I followed the link & read..."George Bush has claimed he was on a mission from God when he launched the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq, according to a senior Palestinian politician"
Problems I see...
1) This is hearsay. Typically not valid for a proof.
2) Possible or likely hidden agenda. Remember, politicians, Palestinian or otherwise, can and will lie to achieve their goals.
sr
"That does not mean we should keep spending, however. "
If I have 3 or 4 other sunglasses, yeah, it's a luxury. If I get them because I'm a cabdriver, perhaps not.
So, politics aside, do we have other programs that are working|!working, tried|!tried?
Is this a luxury or a necessity?
sr
+1
If you want to do things fast, cheap and well a Kelly Johnson Skunkworks model is probably a much better choice than a bureaucratic quagmire.
I agree, though keeping in mind that it still took gobs of govt money. I think what's going on regarding govt contracts with SpaceX & the others is a good direction to go. These companies are our "Skunkworks" for the time being.
This doesn't provide directly for exploration, of course, but I think it will eventually facilitate it.
sr
I expect the human race to be able to move the Earth by the time our sun proves to be a liability.
I suspect the Outer Space Treaty will have to be amended eventually, to allow bases, etc. Perhaps along the lines of the treaties governing nations in Antarctica.
sr
"Don't worry; it's just a matter of time until someone provokes our latent inferiority complex again."
Yep. Once another nation gets close to being able to throw rocks down the gravity well, we'll go into a panic, and get the military-industrial complex behind the project to "reach the asteroids first", or whatever.
"If getting off this rock isn't priority #1 then you're just burying your head in the sand, and ignoring the fossil records found therein."
Nice line, that's a keeper. I was just watching a show on the top 7 catastophic events to occur on Earth: "The Great Dying", "Ordovician Die-off", "K-T Event" (of course), etc. Cosmic events ranging from planetoids to asteroids to supernova gamma rays.
Diversify.
Apart from that, sex and food what else motivates humanity?
Making money (which seems to be what *everyone* wants to do) is just to get more food, and sex time anyways. Oh and moon bases, ferraris, whatever.
So yeah. Good enough for me
Power. Monkey power.
I specifically remember at least one shuttle launch was aborted in a similar manner, and I believe there was at least one instance back when we were riding candles.
sr
Factually wrong. Caps for the start of sentences go way back before the printing press.
Along with a preceding period and space, a cap at the start of a sentence makes reading much easier. The flow is better. It's a convention that has lasted centuries because it's useful, unlike other conventions that have passed away.
I believe I understand where this comes from. when i was a c programmer i tended to drop all my caps. conversely i'd stick them in placesTheyDontBelong. When I was a Cobol programmer, I tended to stick dashes-all-over-the-place. It didn't look weird to me 'cause I read & wrote that stuff all day long. Looking back at my old notes, I'm amused by how much the comp language de jour affected my writing.
sr
I took a look. Good for quick research (assuming good data). May not be overly interesting to the casual browser (which is not its demographic, of course). The data is structured for useful comparisons. There are templates or forms for the type of data they are looking for. I imagine that most or all of the entries will get most of the forms filled out eventually.
sr
Can you give me an example of a non-RTOS? I've having trouble finding explanations of these things that I can understand via the google (but I'm not particularly bright about these things).
Let's see if I can give the nickel tour...
Standard Windows, Unix & Linux OS's are all non-RTOS.
An OS runs many processes that execute the programs and also take care of things in the background. Each process gets a timeslice, a share of the cpu. They often have to wait for an external event, such as disk or network i/o, and will queue up to wait for these events. A process is not guaranteed a constant response time for a given event, because higher priority processes or queueing may take your slice.
A primary feature of an RTOS, on the other hand, is that it will handle external events or special processes immediately. A sensor input. A keypress. A touchscreen. You get a (generally) guaranteed response.
sr
If it was hard to write, it should be hard to read.
Nah. Always go with 'tard'. Never fails. Republitard. Demotard. Libertariatard. OK. Sometimes it fails, but it still wins. Tard!
Nah, just drop the "a". Libertaritard. Remember, you never want to go full tard.
the elderly which suck up the most of our government dollars
Careful what you wish for, youngster.
Hey, I like this thread. I'll play. No taxes! Everybody pay their own way on what they want to use!
Some of us won't make it. We'll have to do something about that. I know, ship 'em off!
There's got to be a new frontier somewhere...lesse, can't ship 'em off to Australia or North America any more. How about the moon? It's close and has lot's of real estate.
If we only had some way to get there...
No, that's a hypothesis.
Thanks, your thread was fun. I thought perhaps you were being overly pedantic at first, but once you laid it out it became clear why you did so.
sr
"It's turtles, all the way down"
Is that valid for all values of one?
Ooh, ooh, can I have mine w/ sauce & meatballs?